"Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker.
- sounds like they are not paying taxes then, so they must buy the service. If they don't pay for the service, it's not provided.
Well, they can also say: -Tell us where the body is. If you don't tell us where the body is, we'll throw you into the slammer.
You'll tell me that it's not the same thing because if you didn't kill anybody you wouldn't know about the body's location and that if the kid is hiding child porn on his computer and is not 'telling where the body is', he must be guilty then.
But it is the same thing is there is no child porn on that computer just as well. If you don't have any child porn on your computer you are innocent of that crime, whether there is or there isn't a court order telling you to give up the password.
So now let's say there isn't child porn on that computer. The judge is still saying: -Show us the child porn on your computer.
If you refuse to show the child porn on your computer (and there is no child porn there) then throwing you in jail for not showing the files is equivalent to throwing your ass in jail for not providing whereabouts of a body of a person, when you have no idea about the body and you are innocent of any crime there.
Not showing them the child porn images on your computer by not providing the password, while being innocent and not having any images of child porn on your computer, and being thrown in jail for that? I say it's bullshit and a violation of your rights. You say on the contrary, that nobody has a right to refuse to help an investigation by providing some information.
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OK, so you are throwing somebody in jail because they don't want to help you with investigation. Good path on the way of becoming a police state on one hand, on another hand it's an example of a police state in action.
The article says the pigs were investigating some child porn or what not, and they got this kid with his computer.
OK, so now the kid is in jail for 16 weeks based on what evidence? Only based on the fact he doesn't want to give up his password.
GOOD FOR HIM.
I only wonder what they will do in 16 weeks time, will they again ask for his password and if he refuses throw him back in the slammer?
There is no way for anybody to say that he has any child porn on his computer and pigs could come up with any excuse just to look into his computer.
PIGS: -We want your computer files. KID: Fuck you. PIGS saying to judge: -We are investigating child porn, we want his computer files. Judge: -Give us your password. KID: Fuck you. Judge: -Off to jail you go for not giving us your password.
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That's it. No child porn, only a stubborn kid. Again, good for him.
You can call it whatever you want, again, I am using Opera more than FF these days because FF has become pretty much unusable on one of my laptops and less usable on another.
With all the latest and greatest changes from FF team I've found myself using more and more Opera and less and less FF because on the same hardware that I used to have and still am using FF has become less and less usable. Plugin container is constantly crashing, FF windows are opening in a nice shade of gray and void of functionality, I have to kill them and open new ones, eventually I have to kill the processes and plugin container separately, the browser is less responsive than it used to be. I find Opera to be much more responsive. Of-course there are no near as many extensions for Opera as for FF and I am not even using the ones that exist, but really, at this point I am just having trouble using the basic browser functionality in FF, forget the extensions.
No, I understand you just fine. I can call somebody dumb when I see they are fucking dumb. Sure there are different mental illnesses and I am not a doctor to come up with a diagnosis, however this is a stupid movie and it portrays a mentally disabled character who is too obsessive to let go of an idea and too stupid or mentally challenged to realize that over time things change and dragons grow, though she clearly observed this dragon grow over the months they spent together.
My own mother tongue? Chto ty znaesh' pro yazyki? Jal' chto tupoi slashdot ne daet pechatat' unikodom. Zatormojennye oba, ty i eta dura iz filma.
I am not hiding behind anything, here is how I see it: this movie is stupid, the main character is a retard and you can't let it go and accept that you won't change my opinion, so what does that make you? At the very minimum it makes you obsessive compulsive.
Crazy, sure, I already said she was mentally retarded. She couldn't let go of an idea of that little dragon just you can't let go of this thread, looks like you'd complement each other beautifully.
You are hopeless. Comparing any of those to an idiot who didn't notice that a number of years has passed, who observed the freaking animal grow in front of her eyes for a number of eyes and still couldn't connect the dots that after years and years of searching the dragon would grow even bigger?
No, she is dumber than most, but she can't hold the candle to you in that respect.
In actuality you can argue that the 2nd amendment gives one the right to own any weapon at all. This obviously includes tactical nuclear bombs, submarines, aircraft, aircraft carriers, tanks, anything.
Liberty to me is ability to conduct my business and be ruled by my own common sense while working within the frameworks set up by the justice system and be aware of my neighbors and customers, which define for me the consequences of my actions. It is freedom from being investigated by gov't, freedom from having to tell the gov't any details of my business at all unless I am overstepping the boundary of the criminal law or I am named in a lawsuit and have to defend myself, again within the framework of the justice system.
Central gov't has a purpose: set up a working justice system and a military system necessary to protect our liberties from foreign threats. The powers and size of this gov't would be controlled through the feedback system of sales taxes that would have to be imposed on some products to maintain the central gov't. In this system if people decided to give less control to the central gov't and to reduce it by reducing its spending, they'd have to avoid purchasing products that are taxes. Food and non-luxury items should not be taxed at all.
Various forms of gov't have been tried, they all work to a point and they all fail after a certain moment, which normally comes as the economic system is destroyed by them. This is going to happen in USA within a short period of time now.
Wealth and assets must not be "re-distributed" based on any moral agenda ever by any government.
Wars shouldn't be started by governments, but obviously the 'good' part of such wars only are apparent to those, who benefit from them, you are not one of them, so to you it's not apparent. That's part of why gov'ts shouldn't be allowed to set monetary policy and tax income and do various schemes like SS, EI etc, which all can be used to start wars and move money to military contractors.
Education and health must all be handled privately, just because you don't see the damage that gov't has been doing doesn't mean it's not there, it just means you are not paying any attention whatsoever, because it's all right on the surface.
All gov't intervention causes prices to go up, before Nixon the health insurance was actually insurance and doctor visits normally were paid out of pocket, thus the cost was very competitive ($5/visit) and insurance would cost $25/year/4 people family/$500 deductible/$50K per year coverage, or 2.5 times the most expensive cancer treatment for a year at that time, and a day in the most expensive hospital was under $110. Nixon killed the very idea of what insurance was, and medicare/medicaide, CHIP, veteran care, all that meant that costs rose at rates much increasing all other factors including inflation, because the costs were now based not on ability of a person to pay out of pocket, but how much gov't would pay or insurance for any visit, and obviously costs started climbing.
Same with education and gov't loans. If you don't see the abysmal state of public education at this point, you are not looking.
Healthy and educated countries do better, but having a healthy and educated country is only possible in the long term if all costs are covered and economy is working, and that's function of a working market, and all and any and every idea about 'morality' or threat of violence (which is what gov't power is) distorts the market and eventually destroys economy.
sure you can, but my newsletter will be distributed via very high voltage and current, this way the recipient will be able to testify with actual physical evidence that he/she is talking to god through me and the mail. You'll be receiving the first transmission in 24 hours from now, all you have to do is stick 2 wires in the closest to you electrical outlet and exactly 24 hours from now you'll have to grab both of the wires and hold onto them as hard as you can.
The BIG ELECTRON, our GOD will be speaking to you directly right then and there.
this text is better in that it explains that first, a hole is drilled in the scull, then MRI is used to image the brain and these images help to insert a probe that's similar to a pencil in shape into the tumor through the brain, so it looks like this will go through other brain tissue first, and then this device discharges what basically amounts to heat and cooks the tumor.
It's probably related to having the same old hardware, because in many cases computers come with pre-installed OSs and most likely most people never change that to anything else.
So I am guessing, but again, how many of those 66% are using the same hardware that they used when Windows7 came out?
-- Also I want to note that I wouldn't change from XP to 7 even if I had new hardware, and I am using Ubuntu and Fedora on some of my machines and XP on 2 of them.
Do you know how they keep low costs in places like Germany? The mandate how much a doctor can charge for a patient. It's 25 Euro per person per 3 months. Yes, you can keep coming over to see the same doctor for 3 months and legally he can't charge the national health plan more than 25 Euro in those three months to see you.
However in that same Germany if you visit a doctor and pay out of pocket, they can charge you for every visit and they charge more (in some cases considerably more) than 25 Euro. I know a doctor who pockets a few hundred Euro per private visit.
Now why does that happen, why so much? Because doctors are allowed to treat private patients only for a small fraction of their time. So they jack up those prices to compensate for the ridiculously low amount that the national system allows them to charge.
Get rid of the national system, completely remove gov't from the picture and you get what USA had before Nixon decided he needed political points: out of pocket payments for doctor visits at a low cost + very cheap insurance, which is ACTUAL insurance.
It was possible to buy insurance in USA before Nixon for $25 for a family of 4 people with $500 deductible covering up to $50K, and at that time the most expensive year of treatment was cancer for $20K and a day in the most expensive hospital cost $110.
Gov't got into the game, changed the rules so that insurance had to pay for every visit, created medicare and other forms of gov't subsidies and prices skyrocketed much faster than gov't created inflation.
And they still failed to fix what they set out to fix in the first place. Nixon said this would eliminate the 10-15% of uninsured people. It did not do a thing to fix that. There is always 10-15% of uninsured people.
What changed was this: those 10-15% of uninsured people were able actually to visit a doctor. A visit cost about $5 before Nixon fucked it up.
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Europe is only 'free' if you do not consider large deficits they are running in most places, borrowing money and subsidizing industries AND forcing doctors to work basically for free most of the time.
There is a reason why there is a doctor shortage in places like Germany and UK now, because doctors prefer to leave and move to Scandinavia, where they can charge more/work fewer hours.
This will backfire and it has started already, countries will go broke and this systems will be disintegrated as part of the non-working non-productive subsidized socialist systems.
I am not eliminating the federal gov't, it has a purpose: justice department and minimum military to protect against foreign threat, to protect the liberties of people, not to take them away.
What I am eliminating is ability of the federal gov't to use its power to subvert the Constitution and to decide who is going to succeed financially, who is going to fail, how much money the gov't spends, the entire idea of waging wars, the entire idea of taking responsibility of investment into the future from the hands of the individuals and giving this crazy power to the gov't, which immediately implies losing the liberties and freedoms that the people have.
-- What will never happen is that I become a dictator of the US and do any of this.
What will happen is that US gov't will be bankrupt and USD destroyed together with US bonds and US will no longer get credit and imports and will become raw material exporter for a very long time to survive at all.
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"Anybody that's not inside the city limits of South Fulton, it's a service we offer. Either they accept it or they don't," said South Fulton Mayor David Crocker.
- sounds like they are not paying taxes then, so they must buy the service. If they don't pay for the service, it's not provided.
Nothing to see here.
I already posted a comment with this question in mind here, so there it is not to repeat myself.
Well, they can also say: -Tell us where the body is. If you don't tell us where the body is, we'll throw you into the slammer.
You'll tell me that it's not the same thing because if you didn't kill anybody you wouldn't know about the body's location and that if the kid is hiding child porn on his computer and is not 'telling where the body is', he must be guilty then.
But it is the same thing is there is no child porn on that computer just as well. If you don't have any child porn on your computer you are innocent of that crime, whether there is or there isn't a court order telling you to give up the password.
So now let's say there isn't child porn on that computer. The judge is still saying: -Show us the child porn on your computer.
If you refuse to show the child porn on your computer (and there is no child porn there) then throwing you in jail for not showing the files is equivalent to throwing your ass in jail for not providing whereabouts of a body of a person, when you have no idea about the body and you are innocent of any crime there.
Not showing them the child porn images on your computer by not providing the password, while being innocent and not having any images of child porn on your computer, and being thrown in jail for that? I say it's bullshit and a violation of your rights. You say on the contrary, that nobody has a right to refuse to help an investigation by providing some information.
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OK, so you are throwing somebody in jail because they don't want to help you with investigation. Good path on the way of becoming a police state on one hand, on another hand it's an example of a police state in action.
The article says the pigs were investigating some child porn or what not, and they got this kid with his computer.
OK, so now the kid is in jail for 16 weeks based on what evidence? Only based on the fact he doesn't want to give up his password.
GOOD FOR HIM.
I only wonder what they will do in 16 weeks time, will they again ask for his password and if he refuses throw him back in the slammer?
There is no way for anybody to say that he has any child porn on his computer and pigs could come up with any excuse just to look into his computer.
PIGS: -We want your computer files.
KID: Fuck you.
PIGS saying to judge: -We are investigating child porn, we want his computer files.
Judge: -Give us your password.
KID: Fuck you.
Judge: -Off to jail you go for not giving us your password.
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That's it. No child porn, only a stubborn kid. Again, good for him.
Well yeah, I wrote a bunch of FF extensions. I am amused how my comments are rated off-topic or troll.
You can call it whatever you want, again, I am using Opera more than FF these days because FF has become pretty much unusable on one of my laptops and less usable on another.
With all the latest and greatest changes from FF team I've found myself using more and more Opera and less and less FF because on the same hardware that I used to have and still am using FF has become less and less usable. Plugin container is constantly crashing, FF windows are opening in a nice shade of gray and void of functionality, I have to kill them and open new ones, eventually I have to kill the processes and plugin container separately, the browser is less responsive than it used to be. I find Opera to be much more responsive. Of-course there are no near as many extensions for Opera as for FF and I am not even using the ones that exist, but really, at this point I am just having trouble using the basic browser functionality in FF, forget the extensions.
No, I understand you just fine. I can call somebody dumb when I see they are fucking dumb. Sure there are different mental illnesses and I am not a doctor to come up with a diagnosis, however this is a stupid movie and it portrays a mentally disabled character who is too obsessive to let go of an idea and too stupid or mentally challenged to realize that over time things change and dragons grow, though she clearly observed this dragon grow over the months they spent together.
Now I suggested you stop avec cette folie.
My own mother tongue? Chto ty znaesh' pro yazyki? Jal' chto tupoi slashdot ne daet pechatat' unikodom. Zatormojennye oba, ty i eta dura iz filma.
I am not hiding behind anything, here is how I see it: this movie is stupid, the main character is a retard and you can't let it go and accept that you won't change my opinion, so what does that make you? At the very minimum it makes you obsessive compulsive.
Luchshe ya ili net, ne tebe sudit', dolboeb.
Crazy, sure, I already said she was mentally retarded. She couldn't let go of an idea of that little dragon just you can't let go of this thread, looks like you'd complement each other beautifully.
You are hopeless. Comparing any of those to an idiot who didn't notice that a number of years has passed, who observed the freaking animal grow in front of her eyes for a number of eyes and still couldn't connect the dots that after years and years of searching the dragon would grow even bigger?
No, she is dumber than most, but she can't hold the candle to you in that respect.
good way to waste some helium.
OMG, I'll save you some money, not even terrorist should go broke on their quests.
You SOB, why DO you hate America? Nobody knows where airports are, if you know, you must submit for an anal probe by the DHS.
I agree, those are vehicles, but once you install weapons on them, they are weapon systems.
I have plenty of sensitivity, that's why I consider this movie to be so dumb.
In actuality you can argue that the 2nd amendment gives one the right to own any weapon at all. This obviously includes tactical nuclear bombs, submarines, aircraft, aircraft carriers, tanks, anything.
Liberty to me is ability to conduct my business and be ruled by my own common sense while working within the frameworks set up by the justice system and be aware of my neighbors and customers, which define for me the consequences of my actions. It is freedom from being investigated by gov't, freedom from having to tell the gov't any details of my business at all unless I am overstepping the boundary of the criminal law or I am named in a lawsuit and have to defend myself, again within the framework of the justice system.
Central gov't has a purpose: set up a working justice system and a military system necessary to protect our liberties from foreign threats. The powers and size of this gov't would be controlled through the feedback system of sales taxes that would have to be imposed on some products to maintain the central gov't. In this system if people decided to give less control to the central gov't and to reduce it by reducing its spending, they'd have to avoid purchasing products that are taxes. Food and non-luxury items should not be taxed at all.
Various forms of gov't have been tried, they all work to a point and they all fail after a certain moment, which normally comes as the economic system is destroyed by them. This is going to happen in USA within a short period of time now.
Wealth and assets must not be "re-distributed" based on any moral agenda ever by any government.
Wars shouldn't be started by governments, but obviously the 'good' part of such wars only are apparent to those, who benefit from them, you are not one of them, so to you it's not apparent. That's part of why gov'ts shouldn't be allowed to set monetary policy and tax income and do various schemes like SS, EI etc, which all can be used to start wars and move money to military contractors.
Education and health must all be handled privately, just because you don't see the damage that gov't has been doing doesn't mean it's not there, it just means you are not paying any attention whatsoever, because it's all right on the surface.
All gov't intervention causes prices to go up, before Nixon the health insurance was actually insurance and doctor visits normally were paid out of pocket, thus the cost was very competitive ($5/visit) and insurance would cost $25/year/4 people family/$500 deductible/$50K per year coverage, or 2.5 times the most expensive cancer treatment for a year at that time, and a day in the most expensive hospital was under $110. Nixon killed the very idea of what insurance was, and medicare/medicaide, CHIP, veteran care, all that meant that costs rose at rates much increasing all other factors including inflation, because the costs were now based not on ability of a person to pay out of pocket, but how much gov't would pay or insurance for any visit, and obviously costs started climbing.
Same with education and gov't loans. If you don't see the abysmal state of public education at this point, you are not looking.
Healthy and educated countries do better, but having a healthy and educated country is only possible in the long term if all costs are covered and economy is working, and that's function of a working market, and all and any and every idea about 'morality' or threat of violence (which is what gov't power is) distorts the market and eventually destroys economy.
sure you can, but my newsletter will be distributed via very high voltage and current, this way the recipient will be able to testify with actual physical evidence that he/she is talking to god through me and the mail. You'll be receiving the first transmission in 24 hours from now, all you have to do is stick 2 wires in the closest to you electrical outlet and exactly 24 hours from now you'll have to grab both of the wires and hold onto them as hard as you can.
The BIG ELECTRON, our GOD will be speaking to you directly right then and there.
This'll also take care of your FSM nightmares.
this text is better in that it explains that first, a hole is drilled in the scull, then MRI is used to image the brain and these images help to insert a probe that's similar to a pencil in shape into the tumor through the brain, so it looks like this will go through other brain tissue first, and then this device discharges what basically amounts to heat and cooks the tumor.
They totally misread the request by the Dr. Evil, he asked for sharks with lasers ON their heads, not humans with lasers IN their heads.
These scientists, always get some mundane detail like that wrong and totally spoil the scheme.
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OTOH this is freaking cool. How do they get the lasers only to burn the cancer cells and not burn tissue on the way to the cancer cells?
Most people today likely couldn't explain what electricity is even if they remotely understand what it does... sort of.
I think it only makes sense to build a religion around electricity.
There could be a stone with some writings on it, like:
1. Thou shalt not touch naked electrical wires with bare hands, etc.
There could be real 'magic' performed, with things shining and flying and moving and doing some other work, even moving the dead carcasses of animals!
It'd be wonderful.
It's probably related to having the same old hardware, because in many cases computers come with pre-installed OSs and most likely most people never change that to anything else.
So I am guessing, but again, how many of those 66% are using the same hardware that they used when Windows7 came out?
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Also I want to note that I wouldn't change from XP to 7 even if I had new hardware, and I am using Ubuntu and Fedora on some of my machines and XP on 2 of them.
I suppose for very large definitions of 'free'.
Do you know how they keep low costs in places like Germany? The mandate how much a doctor can charge for a patient. It's 25 Euro per person per 3 months. Yes, you can keep coming over to see the same doctor for 3 months and legally he can't charge the national health plan more than 25 Euro in those three months to see you.
However in that same Germany if you visit a doctor and pay out of pocket, they can charge you for every visit and they charge more (in some cases considerably more) than 25 Euro. I know a doctor who pockets a few hundred Euro per private visit.
Now why does that happen, why so much? Because doctors are allowed to treat private patients only for a small fraction of their time. So they jack up those prices to compensate for the ridiculously low amount that the national system allows them to charge.
Get rid of the national system, completely remove gov't from the picture and you get what USA had before Nixon decided he needed political points: out of pocket payments for doctor visits at a low cost + very cheap insurance, which is ACTUAL insurance.
It was possible to buy insurance in USA before Nixon for $25 for a family of 4 people with $500 deductible covering up to $50K, and at that time the most expensive year of treatment was cancer for $20K and a day in the most expensive hospital cost $110.
Gov't got into the game, changed the rules so that insurance had to pay for every visit, created medicare and other forms of gov't subsidies and prices skyrocketed much faster than gov't created inflation.
And they still failed to fix what they set out to fix in the first place. Nixon said this would eliminate the 10-15% of uninsured people. It did not do a thing to fix that. There is always 10-15% of uninsured people.
What changed was this: those 10-15% of uninsured people were able actually to visit a doctor. A visit cost about $5 before Nixon fucked it up.
--
Europe is only 'free' if you do not consider large deficits they are running in most places, borrowing money and subsidizing industries AND forcing doctors to work basically for free most of the time.
There is a reason why there is a doctor shortage in places like Germany and UK now, because doctors prefer to leave and move to Scandinavia, where they can charge more/work fewer hours.
This will backfire and it has started already, countries will go broke and this systems will be disintegrated as part of the non-working non-productive subsidized socialist systems.
I am not eliminating the federal gov't, it has a purpose: justice department and minimum military to protect against foreign threat, to protect the liberties of people, not to take them away.
What I am eliminating is ability of the federal gov't to use its power to subvert the Constitution and to decide who is going to succeed financially, who is going to fail, how much money the gov't spends, the entire idea of waging wars, the entire idea of taking responsibility of investment into the future from the hands of the individuals and giving this crazy power to the gov't, which immediately implies losing the liberties and freedoms that the people have.
--
What will never happen is that I become a dictator of the US and do any of this.
What will happen is that US gov't will be bankrupt and USD destroyed together with US bonds and US will no longer get credit and imports and will become raw material exporter for a very long time to survive at all.