It's amazing how they keep trotting out the integration lie about IE. The US Federal Government did not spank Microsoft because they made a better browser and tied it to their file manager, they spanked them for screwing Netscape in every orifice by creating problems for them. Anyone who does not understand that is either confused or lying.
No one is going to wait a whole decade. Three or four years is a long time for hardware makers who have waited patiently for the treadmill to kick out Vista. They have been seven long years without a sales bump. They are not going to wait a whole decade for Microsoft to have a winner on hardware they have to sell. They see those Asus sales now and want a chunk. They also know that chunk is going to cut into whatever they might make instead.
Just look what free software can do with this equipment now. Especially, check out Compiz Fusion clips, which looks as good or better than you can get with Vista on much heavier hardware. Is that "good enough" yet?
It took Microsoft seven years to ruin Windows with digital restrictions and other user hostile stuff. Do you think they can fix it in three or four? Will anyone care by then? I don't think so. You might be right if you think "ideal" and "freedom" mean nothing to people but brand loyalty means far less. The world is tipping quickly towards free software.
Those were significant improvements for a single company back in the 90s, but free software has completely blown them away. Most people also associate the porting of browsers and other programs to Windows with the general progress of the 90s. Since 2000, besides UI, free software hardware abstraction and device support has finally caught up to the non free world for practical purposes.
Free software portability and architecture support had already eclipsed Microsoft's ability by 2000 and totally dominates now. Slashdot started it's life on a 64 bit DEC Alpha while Microsoft was struggling with everything Intel had to offer. Today, you only have to look at BSD and Debian architecture support pages to see just how far you can port free software. There's hardly anything free software won't run on and that makes Microsoft's 32 bit accomplishments look petty.
Stability? My software is more reliable than my hardware. Now that I have a few good UPSs and drastically lower power requirements, my computers just about never go down unless I'm putting in a new part or kernel. Having used Microsoft from the DOS 3.2 days, I can say that Microsoft stability has remained about the same. It's better to just turn the old box off.
It's total EEE panic. Asus is selling better than either Microsoft or Asus imagined. It's reaching into Microsoft's core market and teaching them that free software is just as easy to use as any other if it has vendor support. It's also teaching makers that there's a pot of gold waiting for them outside of Microsoft control.
It won't work because XP can't really compete against free software on the same hardware. Compare Works to Open Office, then imagine trying to make the whole Microsoft Office thing work in 8GB of flash memory. IE 7 or IE 8 or Firefox and Konqueror? Outlook Express or Kmail or the whole KDE PIM package? The choice is obvious and the difference is going to grow. The price of hardware that will run free software will continue to fall but the utility of the device won't.
That makes a continuously building profit potential for hardware makers that has nothing but avoidance to do with Microsoft. Microsoft won't be able to get licensing fees from those computers and will have to raise the price on others to keep their revenue flat, say nothing of growing. All of this leads to less control of users and vendors and that will be a very good thing.
It might also be a recognition that the upgrade treadmill is no longer providing much in the way of new value for the end users, compared to the nineties and early this century.
Recognition? It's a downright admission to market failure. This is not something that can be said for free software though.
The last seven years have provided all sorts of great things for free software users that were stuffed into the same modest hardware requirements. Interfaces that were functional and stable have become beautiful without excessive bloat. There are all sorts of productivity increasing features. Printer support has gone from decent to phenomenal. Media playing and transcoding was very hard to come by seven years ago, now it's common and very good. Network integration in both KDE and Gnome is astonishing and this feature alone would make it impossible for me to consider running XP outside of Parallels or some other Virtual Box. Then there are all the specialty applications. The exponentially growing Debian tree has applications for just about any purpose you can think of and it reflects an even larger body of free code.
Free software is not standing still either. People have new itches and they are scratching them so things are not going to slow down anytime soon. Besides better interfaces and specialty applications there are basic communications and sharing needs that people have. I imagine greater speech recognition, better wireless communication in general, better automation of wireless file transfer and synchronization based on location and a host of other digital life uses. Better and cheaper displays will create all sorts of information surfaces and free computing will be the first to really fill the smart house. People have made a good start with X10 type stuff but the ease of porting to ever smaller and more powerful platforms finally will make these things common.
You are right about the size of the market but wrong about how much money it will make you and what tools to use. Sun and IBM will give you PDF of ODF output and a handy database system to keep it all. So can anyone else with Open Office. Some people are going to be automating the process better than others but it's going to be a competitive market. That's the whole point of standards, to avoid the massive cost of reinventing what should be obvious and spend resources on things people actually want. MSXML is going nowhere in a market like that.
The only post to so much as mention OOXML in a sea "Twitter is teh troll" bullshit is labled troll. Gah, this thread is hosed. It's a good thing that there's not much to talk about until Wednesday.
Or truth or science. A lie is a lie no matter how many people you pay to repeat it. Corruption has no place in any technical organization that will be litened to and respected.
and notes the results will now be announced on Wednesday, so and ISO standard for M$XML is not going to be one of the worst April Fools jokes of the next decade.
The YouTube demonstration is especially cool, especially when you consider they did it without GPU support of any kind.
I don't think we have anything to fear about a Windows or Intel crushing, the people at IBM knew where they were going with Cell. With new process technology it won't be long before you can do this with a single 24 cell processor, not that three or four PS3s would break anyone's budget right now.
I could hardly stand the first page with all those horrid popup advertisement links.
The best part of the joke, I suppose, you can already get a year old real time ray tracing set from IBM for PS3 (cell). This kind of makes the rest of it look like the desperate catch up it is.
A blog from a technical lawyer is just what the world needs. The only problem could be if the blogger was dealing with issues that concerned Cisco without listing his affiliation. Otherwise, Cisco should have been proud of their employee. It's good they are standing by him and hopefully they will trounce this groundless lawsuit.
Now all they have to do is repudiate software patents and stop cooperating with China.
Actually, when I see a post by Twitter I know that it's worth reading. Trolls like you have bombed that account into worse than -1 territory. Any post by Twitter that's visible has come from there and deserves attention. ACs on the other hand, mostly have crap to offer, so I'm going to go level the playing field in my preferences by sticking in a -3 or -4 preset for AC posts.
The EEE PC proves that your logic is backward. It's not that "Open Source" is unfriendly it's that most hardware vendors are. EEE PC uses free software and has one of the easiest interfaces to use of any portable device. It also boast accelerated graphics which can be used by other free software to do what Apple's iPhone does. There are plenty of YouTube movies of the EEE running Compiz Fusion's nifty cube interface. Free software will make it's way to other devices because the devices make money for the vendor. At that point, it will be the phone company that objects, yet another layer of unfriendly people.
The beauty and real joy of free software is that you can chose the interface you like rather than having it forced on you, so you will get the interface you want along with privacy and security. GPE and Opie are both better interface than Windows Mobil and better interfaces are on the way that will rival iPhone in every way. People love graffiti for text input and it's still available with X stroke. Really, it kicks handwriting recognition's. Complete platforms have been available through OpenZaurus and Familiar for years, despite the lack of cooperation and outright sabotage by most vendors. Apple's multitouch interface has much to be admired but these features should be trivial to reproduce and will be if Apple does not block the user community with bogus software patents. The move to free software by other vendors began with Zaurus and is now picking up speed. These devices will kick ass.
I'm sorry that you have had bad experiences in user forums. If you want to see a really ugly exchange, try this forum on for size. Nothing is less friendly than non free software because it's owners all ultimately think they way Creative does. Apple seems to be moving away from that with this lecture but the iPhone is still customer hostile because it won't let you do what you want.
Both Apple and ATT have non free practices at the core of their business. It is not surprising that they would each pretend to be more customer friendly than they really are. The iPhone suffers restrictions from both companies that are integral to each company's business model.
It would be better to have free software devices that could use free spectrum. This would remove the ability of others to restrict your communications and such things are vital if we are to undo the damage broadcast media has done to democracy.
Writer and computer scientist Peter Gutmann has expressed concerns that the Digital Rights Management copy prevention scheme in Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system may limit the availability of the documentation required to write open drivers as it "requires that the operational details of the device be kept confidential."
It sounds nice but what happens when there's an exploit on the so called "kernel" as there so often is from other fine Microsoft products that actually make it to market? How is this thing going to contain the buffer overflow that writes over just the right bits in Window's ancient and identical from machine to machine, i386 memory layout? I'll believe something secure came out of Microsoft Research when the product has been on the market for two years and it takes a real bite out of the malware problem Microsoft has.
No thanks. The goal is not to give you music for money, it's to continue their control the industry. The pieces will invariably include:
A choice of non free OS "support" Windows and OSX if those companies pay their fees.
Block of all competition. Like the RIAA record store of old it's their way or no way.
The same kind of shit you hear on the radio already.
Ever increasing fees to remain advertisement free. Once they have you paying, you will never see the end of it.
They have already tried this shit on college campuses and it failed dismally. Their software sucked and so did the music selection. The vast majority of students ignored the service to purchase CDs, download really free music and trade music without the RIAA's help. The RIAA simply can't compete and that's why their members companies revenues are crashing at 15% per year.
The world is rushing to embrace alternate lables and artists who are putting the fun back into music. No one wants to give money to people who are suing their friends. The world is going to party on without them.
You think Microsoft wants people to equate Firefox with security like you just did? This piece of vapor is all marketing.
This is more of the same from them, promising things they never deliver. Security has been job one for them for the last six years and it has yet to make a dent on the malware problem their customers have. Yet there they go again, "our next version of X will completely blow away the things you could enjoy from our competitors today." It gets tiresome.
The scant description makes their new concept sound like a Mosaic UAC and it's ripe for abuse. The company that's been accused of manipulating search results and political based email filtering would love to have a complicated "security" wrapped around the world wide web.
Without freedom, the internet is no better than cable TV.Without freedom, the internet is no better than cable TV.
Without good laws and software to protect user privacy, the internet more resembles East German telco than anything American. Your emails and web browsing are checked for subversive thoughts and such things get you stuck on government and corporate blacklists. You are in a prison and don't know it.
You should aim that rocket up instead of on a level trajectory. Someone could get hurt. Ouch, is that even keeping up with inflation? Don't you wish you had bought into Google instead? MSFT should stand for, "MicroSoft? Fuck that!"
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It's amazing how they keep trotting out the integration lie about IE. The US Federal Government did not spank Microsoft because they made a better browser and tied it to their file manager, they spanked them for screwing Netscape in every orifice by creating problems for them. Anyone who does not understand that is either confused or lying.
No one is going to wait a whole decade. Three or four years is a long time for hardware makers who have waited patiently for the treadmill to kick out Vista. They have been seven long years without a sales bump. They are not going to wait a whole decade for Microsoft to have a winner on hardware they have to sell. They see those Asus sales now and want a chunk. They also know that chunk is going to cut into whatever they might make instead.
Just look what free software can do with this equipment now. Especially, check out Compiz Fusion clips, which looks as good or better than you can get with Vista on much heavier hardware. Is that "good enough" yet?
It took Microsoft seven years to ruin Windows with digital restrictions and other user hostile stuff. Do you think they can fix it in three or four? Will anyone care by then? I don't think so. You might be right if you think "ideal" and "freedom" mean nothing to people but brand loyalty means far less. The world is tipping quickly towards free software.
Those were significant improvements for a single company back in the 90s, but free software has completely blown them away. Most people also associate the porting of browsers and other programs to Windows with the general progress of the 90s. Since 2000, besides UI, free software hardware abstraction and device support has finally caught up to the non free world for practical purposes.
Free software portability and architecture support had already eclipsed Microsoft's ability by 2000 and totally dominates now. Slashdot started it's life on a 64 bit DEC Alpha while Microsoft was struggling with everything Intel had to offer. Today, you only have to look at BSD and Debian architecture support pages to see just how far you can port free software. There's hardly anything free software won't run on and that makes Microsoft's 32 bit accomplishments look petty.
Stability? My software is more reliable than my hardware. Now that I have a few good UPSs and drastically lower power requirements, my computers just about never go down unless I'm putting in a new part or kernel. Having used Microsoft from the DOS 3.2 days, I can say that Microsoft stability has remained about the same. It's better to just turn the old box off.
It's total EEE panic. Asus is selling better than either Microsoft or Asus imagined. It's reaching into Microsoft's core market and teaching them that free software is just as easy to use as any other if it has vendor support. It's also teaching makers that there's a pot of gold waiting for them outside of Microsoft control.
It won't work because XP can't really compete against free software on the same hardware. Compare Works to Open Office, then imagine trying to make the whole Microsoft Office thing work in 8GB of flash memory. IE 7 or IE 8 or Firefox and Konqueror? Outlook Express or Kmail or the whole KDE PIM package? The choice is obvious and the difference is going to grow. The price of hardware that will run free software will continue to fall but the utility of the device won't.
That makes a continuously building profit potential for hardware makers that has nothing but avoidance to do with Microsoft. Microsoft won't be able to get licensing fees from those computers and will have to raise the price on others to keep their revenue flat, say nothing of growing. All of this leads to less control of users and vendors and that will be a very good thing.
It might also be a recognition that the upgrade treadmill is no longer providing much in the way of new value for the end users, compared to the nineties and early this century.
Recognition? It's a downright admission to market failure. This is not something that can be said for free software though.
The last seven years have provided all sorts of great things for free software users that were stuffed into the same modest hardware requirements. Interfaces that were functional and stable have become beautiful without excessive bloat. There are all sorts of productivity increasing features. Printer support has gone from decent to phenomenal. Media playing and transcoding was very hard to come by seven years ago, now it's common and very good. Network integration in both KDE and Gnome is astonishing and this feature alone would make it impossible for me to consider running XP outside of Parallels or some other Virtual Box. Then there are all the specialty applications. The exponentially growing Debian tree has applications for just about any purpose you can think of and it reflects an even larger body of free code.
Free software is not standing still either. People have new itches and they are scratching them so things are not going to slow down anytime soon. Besides better interfaces and specialty applications there are basic communications and sharing needs that people have. I imagine greater speech recognition, better wireless communication in general, better automation of wireless file transfer and synchronization based on location and a host of other digital life uses. Better and cheaper displays will create all sorts of information surfaces and free computing will be the first to really fill the smart house. People have made a good start with X10 type stuff but the ease of porting to ever smaller and more powerful platforms finally will make these things common.
You are right about the size of the market but wrong about how much money it will make you and what tools to use. Sun and IBM will give you PDF of ODF output and a handy database system to keep it all. So can anyone else with Open Office. Some people are going to be automating the process better than others but it's going to be a competitive market. That's the whole point of standards, to avoid the massive cost of reinventing what should be obvious and spend resources on things people actually want. MSXML is going nowhere in a market like that.
ISO has yet to formally disgrace themselves. It might not really happen.
Vista users have systems that are a little slow. XP, ALSA and OSS users don't really care.
Thank you Creative and Microsoft for making the advantages of free software so obvious.
The only post to so much as mention OOXML in a sea "Twitter is teh troll" bullshit is labled troll. Gah, this thread is hosed. It's a good thing that there's not much to talk about until Wednesday.
Or truth or science. A lie is a lie no matter how many people you pay to repeat it. Corruption has no place in any technical organization that will be litened to and respected.
Groklaw predicts more challenges
and notes the results will now be announced on Wednesday, so and ISO standard for M$XML is not going to be one of the worst April Fools jokes of the next decade.The YouTube demonstration is especially cool, especially when you consider they did it without GPU support of any kind.
I don't think we have anything to fear about a Windows or Intel crushing, the people at IBM knew where they were going with Cell. With new process technology it won't be long before you can do this with a single 24 cell processor, not that three or four PS3s would break anyone's budget right now.
Try this instead. Real time ray tracing is real already.
I could hardly stand the first page with all those horrid popup advertisement links.
The best part of the joke, I suppose, you can already get a year old real time ray tracing set from IBM for PS3 (cell). This kind of makes the rest of it look like the desperate catch up it is.
and other vaporware that's just around the corner. Pay no attention to the Vista reality, OSX or that Linux thing with its OpenRT.
Sleep little techie, don't say a word.
Stevie is going to buy you a VR world.
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A blog from a technical lawyer is just what the world needs. The only problem could be if the blogger was dealing with issues that concerned Cisco without listing his affiliation. Otherwise, Cisco should have been proud of their employee. It's good they are standing by him and hopefully they will trounce this groundless lawsuit.
Now all they have to do is repudiate software patents and stop cooperating with China.
Actually, when I see a post by Twitter I know that it's worth reading. Trolls like you have bombed that account into worse than -1 territory. Any post by Twitter that's visible has come from there and deserves attention. ACs on the other hand, mostly have crap to offer, so I'm going to go level the playing field in my preferences by sticking in a -3 or -4 preset for AC posts.
The EEE PC proves that your logic is backward. It's not that "Open Source" is unfriendly it's that most hardware vendors are. EEE PC uses free software and has one of the easiest interfaces to use of any portable device. It also boast accelerated graphics which can be used by other free software to do what Apple's iPhone does. There are plenty of YouTube movies of the EEE running Compiz Fusion's nifty cube interface. Free software will make it's way to other devices because the devices make money for the vendor. At that point, it will be the phone company that objects, yet another layer of unfriendly people.
The beauty and real joy of free software is that you can chose the interface you like rather than having it forced on you, so you will get the interface you want along with privacy and security. GPE and Opie are both better interface than Windows Mobil and better interfaces are on the way that will rival iPhone in every way. People love graffiti for text input and it's still available with X stroke. Really, it kicks handwriting recognition's. Complete platforms have been available through OpenZaurus and Familiar for years, despite the lack of cooperation and outright sabotage by most vendors. Apple's multitouch interface has much to be admired but these features should be trivial to reproduce and will be if Apple does not block the user community with bogus software patents. The move to free software by other vendors began with Zaurus and is now picking up speed. These devices will kick ass.
I'm sorry that you have had bad experiences in user forums. If you want to see a really ugly exchange, try this forum on for size. Nothing is less friendly than non free software because it's owners all ultimately think they way Creative does. Apple seems to be moving away from that with this lecture but the iPhone is still customer hostile because it won't let you do what you want.
Both Apple and ATT have non free practices at the core of their business. It is not surprising that they would each pretend to be more customer friendly than they really are. The iPhone suffers restrictions from both companies that are integral to each company's business model.
It would be better to have free software devices that could use free spectrum. This would remove the ability of others to restrict your communications and such things are vital if we are to undo the damage broadcast media has done to democracy.
From Wikipedia:
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This is the only way the "trusted path" will work and it would be convenient for Microsoft if people and institutions did not realize that this is an unacceptable way of doing things.
It sounds nice but what happens when there's an exploit on the so called "kernel" as there so often is from other fine Microsoft products that actually make it to market? How is this thing going to contain the buffer overflow that writes over just the right bits in Window's ancient and identical from machine to machine, i386 memory layout? I'll believe something secure came out of Microsoft Research when the product has been on the market for two years and it takes a real bite out of the malware problem Microsoft has.
No thanks. The goal is not to give you music for money, it's to continue their control the industry. The pieces will invariably include:
They have already tried this shit on college campuses and it failed dismally. Their software sucked and so did the music selection. The vast majority of students ignored the service to purchase CDs, download really free music and trade music without the RIAA's help. The RIAA simply can't compete and that's why their members companies revenues are crashing at 15% per year.
The world is rushing to embrace alternate lables and artists who are putting the fun back into music. No one wants to give money to people who are suing their friends. The world is going to party on without them.
Just think of what Microsoft would like to do with UAC for your browser. "This website is not Microsoft signed, Cancel or Allow?"
You think Microsoft wants people to equate Firefox with security like you just did? This piece of vapor is all marketing.
This is more of the same from them, promising things they never deliver. Security has been job one for them for the last six years and it has yet to make a dent on the malware problem their customers have. Yet there they go again, "our next version of X will completely blow away the things you could enjoy from our competitors today." It gets tiresome.
The scant description makes their new concept sound like a Mosaic UAC and it's ripe for abuse. The company that's been accused of manipulating search results and political based email filtering would love to have a complicated "security" wrapped around the world wide web.
Without freedom, the internet is no better than cable TV.Without freedom, the internet is no better than cable TV.
Without good laws and software to protect user privacy, the internet more resembles East German telco than anything American. Your emails and web browsing are checked for subversive thoughts and such things get you stuck on government and corporate blacklists. You are in a prison and don't know it.
You should aim that rocket up instead of on a level trajectory. Someone could get hurt. Ouch, is that even keeping up with inflation? Don't you wish you had bought into Google instead? MSFT should stand for, "MicroSoft? Fuck that!"