I think the point that's being made is that people need to be a little more educated on shit like this (or, alternately, that people aren't paying attention to or are too dumb to comprehend the reliable information out there).
I think most of us understand that this is meant to prey on those who are a little less wise with their systems. Any good scam targets the idiots, because a successful scam generally depends on the target not seeing that 1 and 1 aren't making 2 any longer.
Did this on HS with an admin account I found perusing the Active Directory. Except, instead of moving the icons, I used a VBScript-created error box that looked real bad, and wouldn't go away when clicked on (it was there in the screencap).
The freshmen and teachers panicked for a few minutes, and a day or two later, that admin account was gone. But not the other two, named Test2 and Test3.
Said stoner, if in the Star Trek universe, would somehow manage to spew out a string of words that would cause these words to be uttered: "Self-destruct sequence has been activated. Ten minutes until antimatter core overload.'.
Cash: paper lasts a few years at best, coins are worth less than the metal they're minted from, armored vans for transport and entire law enforcement departments dedicated to counterfeiting
I've handled plenty of bills that are as old, or older, than I am. Paper currency gets a little more than a 'few years'. You don't see a big recovery effort until the denomination gets redesigned to be harder to forge (making the older bills less desirable, though equal in value in commerce), so many of the older bills remain in circulation. Not everyone beats up their money in the literal sense.
I'd rather have a phone that has a software-swappable identifier that handshakes with the tower, but I suppose that is just dreaming.
Similar to the good old days of the ESN (think Analog, TDMA, CDMA)? Granted, the ESN was printed right in the back of the thing, and all someone needed was a few minutes to get that (at most) and cloning isn't far behind--not that the GSM method is unclonable, but really, it's more often going to be easier to just yoink someone's SIM and use it while you can.
You also lose the benefit of being able to just switch to a different phone on your own if the identifier is a value stored in the phone--every phone would have to have it's own identifier on the network (letting multiple phones share the same would make it hard to claim cloning with your provider, should it happen--it's built in for multiple phones to say they're the same person at that point), so if you wanted or needed to change handsets, it's another call to your provider.
less to do with each other than an Orthodox rabbi and a porkchop.
This will now replace 'What does X have to do with the price of tea in China' in my daily conversation. You almost got a beverage spray from me because this bit of wit.
Cursory search points me to Wikipedia. The summation at the top pretty much covers how this instance would NOT apply:
In the law of torts, the attractive nuisance doctrine states that landowner may be held liable for injuries to children trespassing on the land if the injury is caused by a hazardous object or condition on the land that is likely to attract children who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition. The doctrine has been applied to hold landowners liable for injuries caused by abandoned cars, piles of lumber or sand, trampolines, and swimming pools. However, it can be applied to virtually anything on the property of the landowner.
The last sentence notwithstanding, all tests against this doctrine are with regards to child trespassers.
If a child walked into a house with a loaded gun on the coffee table and popped his pal who happened to be with him, this holds merit; an adult walks in, however, grabs the gun, and goes house-to-house offing neighbours, this is completely off the table.
Except for the fact that there isn't currently a completely impervious method to secure a wireless network, even with 'respectable' best practices on your home network, you're still at risk for your connection being hijacked and used for nefarious purposes.
All in all, the analogies presented aren't unreasonable; if someone exceeds a known boundary (walking into a house whose door happens to be unlocked; opening the door of and operating a car that they don't own--things known to be crimes), that liability is theirs, not the person whose property has been misused, whether or not 'respectable' practices such as locking a door or car have been used. I don't see where a wireless network is much different, regardless of whether or not BP have been adhered to.
This is a question that comes to mind to me frequently. If you share, say, 20 blocks of a video file whose torrent is 1070 blocks, and none of the blocks you share contain any information that would directly allow the recipient's software to do anything with it, have you done anything more than shuffle a bunch of 1s and 0s around? If those 20 blocks are contiguous, might you have a fair use defence? Hell, if your ratio on the torrent is less than 1.0, did you really share a copy?
That last argument is one that I could see used on the other end...a given user might keep a 1.0 ratio, but people are still completing their downloads, so there's some semblance of acting in concert, though that logic seems to be a little bit flaky as of late (or maybe Mr. Steele didn't explain it right, I don't know anymore).
I think they'll likely argue that torrenting involves uploading as well as downloading.
That's the general gist of it, but I've never met a torrent client that won't let me disable uploading. And how do you prove uploading is occurring? Easiest way is to download from an alleged seeder. Then it goes downhill really fast for them; they might have to defend that they weren't uploading themselves at the same time as they were downloading. Even then, they're only downloading from (and seeding to) an IP address, and there is the central controversy--with just an IP address, how do you know who you're able to sue?
But, as TWC have already done once, they can prevent having an 'undue burden' being placed on their business operations, and stem the flow of responses to a reasonable level; after all, they have other requests from government agencies that take precedence. Finally, National Security is helping us!
Be a fun time making the original IP lists gathered disappear in discovery, should they be requested. You lose the 'Oh, we didn't realise...' argument used in personal jurisdiction disputes and whatnot if it's found you've been doing SOME kind of homework on the IP addresses gathered.
Somewhat related, is there any comparable tactic to Selective Prosecution that can be used in civil disputes?
Excellent as well. Creationist theory tends to revolve on a pretty short timeline (somewhere around the 6000-year mark, if I recall), and carbon dating is the quickest (for a lab with the equipment necessary to do so) way to toss it out (hypothesis disproven by the fact that it can't possibly be right).
With a few billion people on the face of the Earth, even with high local population densities, the human race's family tree is a tangled mess of branches. There's bound to be a few evolutionary traits in there somewhere. Melanin comes to mind.
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I think the point that's being made is that people need to be a little more educated on shit like this (or, alternately, that people aren't paying attention to or are too dumb to comprehend the reliable information out there).
I think most of us understand that this is meant to prey on those who are a little less wise with their systems. Any good scam targets the idiots, because a successful scam generally depends on the target not seeing that 1 and 1 aren't making 2 any longer.
Did this on HS with an admin account I found perusing the Active Directory. Except, instead of moving the icons, I used a VBScript-created error box that looked real bad, and wouldn't go away when clicked on (it was there in the screencap).
The freshmen and teachers panicked for a few minutes, and a day or two later, that admin account was gone. But not the other two, named Test2 and Test3.
God bless sudo.
Said stoner, if in the Star Trek universe, would somehow manage to spew out a string of words that would cause these words to be uttered: "Self-destruct sequence has been activated. Ten minutes until antimatter core overload.'.
Cash: paper lasts a few years at best, coins are worth less than the metal they're minted from, armored vans for transport and entire law enforcement departments dedicated to counterfeiting
I've handled plenty of bills that are as old, or older, than I am. Paper currency gets a little more than a 'few years'. You don't see a big recovery effort until the denomination gets redesigned to be harder to forge (making the older bills less desirable, though equal in value in commerce), so many of the older bills remain in circulation. Not everyone beats up their money in the literal sense.
I'd rather have a phone that has a software-swappable identifier that handshakes with the tower, but I suppose that is just dreaming.
Similar to the good old days of the ESN (think Analog, TDMA, CDMA)? Granted, the ESN was printed right in the back of the thing, and all someone needed was a few minutes to get that (at most) and cloning isn't far behind--not that the GSM method is unclonable, but really, it's more often going to be easier to just yoink someone's SIM and use it while you can.
You also lose the benefit of being able to just switch to a different phone on your own if the identifier is a value stored in the phone--every phone would have to have it's own identifier on the network (letting multiple phones share the same would make it hard to claim cloning with your provider, should it happen--it's built in for multiple phones to say they're the same person at that point), so if you wanted or needed to change handsets, it's another call to your provider.
Nah, doing that could break windows.
This is the downside to Rule 34. This will probably soon exist, and necessitate the gouging out of eyes.
Really, their poetry sucks, the pr0n has to be a war crime at best.
Breaking News: Bill Gates goes apoplectic with rage. Film at 11.
And then maybe some Vogon poetry?
BECAUSE BILLY "FFUCKING" MAYSSS sayd it works!
He's dead, Jim!
Now, just get Michael on the plane and he can be done with Purgatory.
less to do with each other than an Orthodox rabbi and a porkchop.
This will now replace 'What does X have to do with the price of tea in China' in my daily conversation. You almost got a beverage spray from me because this bit of wit.
In the law of torts, the attractive nuisance doctrine states that landowner may be held liable for injuries to children trespassing on the land if the injury is caused by a hazardous object or condition on the land that is likely to attract children who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition. The doctrine has been applied to hold landowners liable for injuries caused by abandoned cars, piles of lumber or sand, trampolines, and swimming pools. However, it can be applied to virtually anything on the property of the landowner.
The last sentence notwithstanding, all tests against this doctrine are with regards to child trespassers.
If a child walked into a house with a loaded gun on the coffee table and popped his pal who happened to be with him, this holds merit; an adult walks in, however, grabs the gun, and goes house-to-house offing neighbours, this is completely off the table.
Except for the fact that there isn't currently a completely impervious method to secure a wireless network, even with 'respectable' best practices on your home network, you're still at risk for your connection being hijacked and used for nefarious purposes.
All in all, the analogies presented aren't unreasonable; if someone exceeds a known boundary (walking into a house whose door happens to be unlocked; opening the door of and operating a car that they don't own--things known to be crimes), that liability is theirs, not the person whose property has been misused, whether or not 'respectable' practices such as locking a door or car have been used. I don't see where a wireless network is much different, regardless of whether or not BP have been adhered to.
This is a question that comes to mind to me frequently. If you share, say, 20 blocks of a video file whose torrent is 1070 blocks, and none of the blocks you share contain any information that would directly allow the recipient's software to do anything with it, have you done anything more than shuffle a bunch of 1s and 0s around? If those 20 blocks are contiguous, might you have a fair use defence? Hell, if your ratio on the torrent is less than 1.0, did you really share a copy?
That last argument is one that I could see used on the other end...a given user might keep a 1.0 ratio, but people are still completing their downloads, so there's some semblance of acting in concert, though that logic seems to be a little bit flaky as of late (or maybe Mr. Steele didn't explain it right, I don't know anymore).
I think they'll likely argue that torrenting involves uploading as well as downloading.
That's the general gist of it, but I've never met a torrent client that won't let me disable uploading. And how do you prove uploading is occurring? Easiest way is to download from an alleged seeder. Then it goes downhill really fast for them; they might have to defend that they weren't uploading themselves at the same time as they were downloading. Even then, they're only downloading from (and seeding to) an IP address, and there is the central controversy--with just an IP address, how do you know who you're able to sue?
To you: you REALLY clicked a shortened link, in a /. comment, with no real description of what it is/was, while AT WORK?
You were pretty much ASKING for that.
You forgot #winning, Mr. Sheen.
See the WoW Glider case, and the ruling that copying a program from your harddrive to your RAM constitutes copyright infringement.
How did I miss this one? That's like the old lady who calls to piss and moan about her cell phone not giving her a dial tone...
But, as TWC have already done once, they can prevent having an 'undue burden' being placed on their business operations, and stem the flow of responses to a reasonable level; after all, they have other requests from government agencies that take precedence. Finally, National Security is helping us!
Be a fun time making the original IP lists gathered disappear in discovery, should they be requested. You lose the 'Oh, we didn't realise...' argument used in personal jurisdiction disputes and whatnot if it's found you've been doing SOME kind of homework on the IP addresses gathered.
Somewhat related, is there any comparable tactic to Selective Prosecution that can be used in civil disputes?
Excellent as well. Creationist theory tends to revolve on a pretty short timeline (somewhere around the 6000-year mark, if I recall), and carbon dating is the quickest (for a lab with the equipment necessary to do so) way to toss it out (hypothesis disproven by the fact that it can't possibly be right).
This.
With a few billion people on the face of the Earth, even with high local population densities, the human race's family tree is a tangled mess of branches. There's bound to be a few evolutionary traits in there somewhere. Melanin comes to mind.
there aren't any experiments you can do to demonstrate evolutionary theory.
Carbon dating, anyone?