Ah, maybe you don't realize that my education, training, career and experience mean that I know and understand the cost of many things, stripping out the externalities and input cost distortions, adding in profit and taxes. These are not mysterious and unfathomable.
The true, unfettered, market prices for most goods and services are significantly less than the current prices. Market distortions have raised prices, which distortions are compounded by "corrective" subsidies. Removing barriers to entry erected by the government will lower prices. See Uber, which is the gravest threat to subsidized public transit systems.
Insurance is not the same as a subsidy, so medical expenses are out of this discussion. Let's take another example from your list. I pick a simple utility that everyone uses - electricity. You say it is subsidized. You say that we all are paying the subsidy.
Sorry, my brain asploded.
If you don't know the market price, how can you not believe me?
I don't understand, please help me. We are receiving subsidies, while at the same time paying for subsidies? Who is paying for food, gas for your car, electricity, the mortgage on your house, health care, education? You say all of us are paying. So we are paying and receiving at the same time? Sorry, it doesn't make sense to me.
BTW, you said that you don't believe that I am willing to pay the market price, when I stated that I am. That is calling me a liar. You have no basis for saying that.
Firstly, effectively calling me a liar marks you as a cad.
Secondly, you assert that pretty much everything I consume is heavily subsidized. To the point where I am getting a heck of a deal, receiving goods and services that exceed in value and cost what I pay for them. As I am an average joe, most of the country must be getting the same benefit. My question is, where the hell is all the money coming from to pay the difference?
I don't care if they enjoy it or not, I am willing to pay the market price. But if they are subsidized I believe they should give me as a city dweller a discount on my food, seeing as my backyard is not suitable for farming, poor me.
The English have a saying "An old tax is no tax." The corollary is that on old subsidy is no subsidy. See the healthcare and education industries as examples of the outcome expected.
I read "Uncle Tungsten" recently and was enthralled. His childhood adventures are completely impossible in today's collective cultural nervous breakdown. As a result, intellects such as his, with concomitant advances in knowledge, are smothered. We are doomed to suffocating stagnation.
So the same business model as for Wall Street fat cats who have to send their poor children to Harvard? Is that the kind of "market" you mean? The average joe just has to spend more of his hard-earned money for a simple service that costs more because of a trust-like cartel that only the rich can afford to enter? And too bad for a poor student who needs some pocket cash to pay for the ever-increasing cost of a college education - your job is reserved for others.
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
Like many socialist idiots, you conflate control with regulation. US airlines were decontrolled in 1978 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act).
The result was that airfares plummeted, many more people (read: lower-income) could afford to fly, the industry and employment grew dramatically. Meanwhile, flying in the US has never been safer (notwithstanding the TSA), and the FAA still regulates safety.
I know Krugman (whose name may not be mentioned without the word "Nobel") has been whining about the sharing economy and whispering in her ear. The very definition of conservative., resistant to change.
Read "Three Felonies a Day" by Harvey Silverglate to understand the fed's rationale. The ends justify the means. After all, Capone ended up in Alcatraz for tax evasion. The book is sickening reading.
Its not for the next generation of drivers, its another vector for monetization for car manufacturers. Just like smart TVs, you are not watching, you are being watched.
The end result will be that your car tells you that you are very low on gas and must fill up immediately. At the same time it sells this information to nearby gas stations who immediately raise their prices. You driving habits will be sold to insurance companies, your destinations to restaurants and motels, etc.
The South Africans have mismanaged their power supply system to the extent that they now have to operate open-cycle emergency/peaking sets on diesel, continuously. This is very expensive, as you say, and is contributing to the downward economic spiral. Hence the grasping at straws.
If carbon emissions were suddenly and miraculously reduced overnight, it would still be too late to reverse the warming trend. So we either need to accept and live with warming, or geoengineer.
The debate has now officially moved on. Please do not rehash the past, or find an excuse to parrot your SJW whinings.
If Teixeira had bankrupted himself in a quixotic attempt to court rein in an out-of-control executive, this would not be news and we would not be discussing it. It would be like "Dog bites postman."
However, Teixeira did prevail. In a functioning system this would not be news. But our system is misfunctional, making this "Postman bites dog" news. We are reading about and discussing it precisely because it is so unusual and contrary to our perverted expectations.
So we are reminded that it is our bounden duty to show solidarity and cut down the establishment.
Oh, and the officials responsible should be paying the costs, personally.
The nub of the story is the definition of SF. Since Jules Verne and HG Wells a certain type of fan has build a clubhouse for like-minded people. They have evolved their own idea of the SF genre. Now fringe genres want in, and are being resisted. Whether this is good or bad is a matter of opinion.
Mine is that just claiming 50 Shades, Noddy, Teletubbies, Dianetics, Marxist Manifesto or The Fountainhead as SF, does not automatically make it so. Because if so, then we would soon see Heinlein fans submitting his works for Feminist awards and wailing when they are inevitably rejected. The SJW are rejected not because of their beliefs, but because they are not SF fans and cannot unilaterally define SF.
We end up with LGBT cake shops being forced to bake confederate flag cakes - is that really what we want?
"Oh don't give me none more of that Old Janx Spirit No, don't you give me none more of that Old Janx Spirit For my head will fly, my tongue will lie, my eyes will fry and I may die Won't you pour me one more of that sinful Old Janx Spirit"
—An ancient Orion mining song
Janx Spirit - almost exclusively referred to as "That Old Janx Spirit" - is an extremely potent alcoholic beverage, and is used heavily in drinking games that are played in the hyperspace ports that serve the madranite mining belts in the star system of Orion Beta.
The game is not unlike the Earth game called Indian Wrestling, and is played like this:
Two contestants sit at either side of a table, with a glass in front of each of them Between them would be placed a bottle of Janx Spirit. Each of the two contestants would then concentrate their will on the bottle and attempt to tip it and pour spirit into the glass of his opponent - who would then have to drink it. The bottle would then be refilled. The game would be played again. And again. Once you started to lose you would probably keep losing, because one of the effects of Janx Spirit is to depress telepsychic power. As soon as a predetermined quantity had been consumed, the final loser would have to perform a forfeit, which was usually obscenely biological.
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Not sure where you are getting your data. http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/...
Ah, maybe you don't realize that my education, training, career and experience mean that I know and understand the cost of many things, stripping out the externalities and input cost distortions, adding in profit and taxes. These are not mysterious and unfathomable.
The true, unfettered, market prices for most goods and services are significantly less than the current prices. Market distortions have raised prices, which distortions are compounded by "corrective" subsidies. Removing barriers to entry erected by the government will lower prices. See Uber, which is the gravest threat to subsidized public transit systems.
Insurance is not the same as a subsidy, so medical expenses are out of this discussion. Let's take another example from your list. I pick a simple utility that everyone uses - electricity. You say it is subsidized. You say that we all are paying the subsidy.
Sorry, my brain asploded.
If you don't know the market price, how can you not believe me?
I don't understand, please help me. We are receiving subsidies, while at the same time paying for subsidies? Who is paying for food, gas for your car, electricity, the mortgage on your house, health care, education? You say all of us are paying. So we are paying and receiving at the same time? Sorry, it doesn't make sense to me.
BTW, you said that you don't believe that I am willing to pay the market price, when I stated that I am. That is calling me a liar. You have no basis for saying that.
"If I couldd get decent internet for the cost of living in California for 10 months...
...I could work from the ranch, sell off the California townhouse, and live for a year on less than it costs to live in CA for a month.
"
Fixed that for you. I am not going to pay for your retirement internet when you can clearly afford to pay it yourself.
Firstly, effectively calling me a liar marks you as a cad.
Secondly, you assert that pretty much everything I consume is heavily subsidized. To the point where I am getting a heck of a deal, receiving goods and services that exceed in value and cost what I pay for them. As I am an average joe, most of the country must be getting the same benefit. My question is, where the hell is all the money coming from to pay the difference?
I'm guessing it does!
I don't care if they enjoy it or not, I am willing to pay the market price. But if they are subsidized I believe they should give me as a city dweller a discount on my food, seeing as my backyard is not suitable for farming, poor me.
The English have a saying "An old tax is no tax." The corollary is that on old subsidy is no subsidy. See the healthcare and education industries as examples of the outcome expected.
I thought Herrod was only interested in Baby Jesus? https://youtu.be/ywJdWNRwQBg
We enjoy paying for your chosen lifestyle. You're welcome.
I read "Uncle Tungsten" recently and was enthralled. His childhood adventures are completely impossible in today's collective cultural nervous breakdown. As a result, intellects such as his, with concomitant advances in knowledge, are smothered. We are doomed to suffocating stagnation.
So the same business model as for Wall Street fat cats who have to send their poor children to Harvard? Is that the kind of "market" you mean? The average joe just has to spend more of his hard-earned money for a simple service that costs more because of a trust-like cartel that only the rich can afford to enter? And too bad for a poor student who needs some pocket cash to pay for the ever-increasing cost of a college education - your job is reserved for others.
This correspondence is ended.
So your argument is that it is good to have a market of several decentralized companies playing by a set of common rules.
Yes
.... like the current taxi industry?
There is no market, only central planning and rationing.
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."
Like many socialist idiots, you conflate control with regulation. US airlines were decontrolled in 1978 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act).
The result was that airfares plummeted, many more people (read: lower-income) could afford to fly, the industry and employment grew dramatically. Meanwhile, flying in the US has never been safer (notwithstanding the TSA), and the FAA still regulates safety.
NYC cab drivers.
I know Krugman (whose name may not be mentioned without the word "Nobel") has been whining about the sharing economy and whispering in her ear. The very definition of conservative., resistant to change.
Read "Three Felonies a Day" by Harvey Silverglate to understand the fed's rationale. The ends justify the means. After all, Capone ended up in Alcatraz for tax evasion. The book is sickening reading.
http://www.harveysilverglate.c...
http://www.threefeloniesaday.c...
http://www.amazon.com/Three-Fe...
None of this excuses the youngster's behavior.
Its not for the next generation of drivers, its another vector for monetization for car manufacturers. Just like smart TVs, you are not watching, you are being watched.
The end result will be that your car tells you that you are very low on gas and must fill up immediately. At the same time it sells this information to nearby gas stations who immediately raise their prices. You driving habits will be sold to insurance companies, your destinations to restaurants and motels, etc.
The South Africans have mismanaged their power supply system to the extent that they now have to operate open-cycle emergency/peaking sets on diesel, continuously. This is very expensive, as you say, and is contributing to the downward economic spiral. Hence the grasping at straws.
Ah, the smell of luvvies in the morning!
If carbon emissions were suddenly and miraculously reduced overnight, it would still be too late to reverse the warming trend. So we either need to accept and live with warming, or geoengineer.
The debate has now officially moved on. Please do not rehash the past, or find an excuse to parrot your SJW whinings.
If Teixeira had bankrupted himself in a quixotic attempt to court rein in an out-of-control executive, this would not be news and we would not be discussing it. It would be like "Dog bites postman."
However, Teixeira did prevail. In a functioning system this would not be news. But our system is misfunctional, making this "Postman bites dog" news. We are reading about and discussing it precisely because it is so unusual and contrary to our perverted expectations.
So we are reminded that it is our bounden duty to show solidarity and cut down the establishment.
Oh, and the officials responsible should be paying the costs, personally.
What happened to #suddenoutbreakofcommonsense?
The nub of the story is the definition of SF. Since Jules Verne and HG Wells a certain type of fan has build a clubhouse for like-minded people. They have evolved their own idea of the SF genre. Now fringe genres want in, and are being resisted. Whether this is good or bad is a matter of opinion.
Mine is that just claiming 50 Shades, Noddy, Teletubbies, Dianetics, Marxist Manifesto or The Fountainhead as SF, does not automatically make it so. Because if so, then we would soon see Heinlein fans submitting his works for Feminist awards and wailing when they are inevitably rejected. The SJW are rejected not because of their beliefs, but because they are not SF fans and cannot unilaterally define SF.
We end up with LGBT cake shops being forced to bake confederate flag cakes - is that really what we want?
"Oh don't give me none more of that Old Janx Spirit
No, don't you give me none more of that Old Janx Spirit
For my head will fly, my tongue will lie, my eyes will fry and I may die
Won't you pour me one more of that sinful Old Janx Spirit"
—An ancient Orion mining song
Janx Spirit - almost exclusively referred to as "That Old Janx Spirit" - is an extremely potent alcoholic beverage, and is used heavily in drinking games that are played in the hyperspace ports that serve the madranite mining belts in the star system of Orion Beta.
The game is not unlike the Earth game called Indian Wrestling, and is played like this:
Two contestants sit at either side of a table, with a glass in front of each of them
Between them would be placed a bottle of Janx Spirit.
Each of the two contestants would then concentrate their will on the bottle and attempt to tip it and pour spirit into the glass of his opponent - who would then have to drink it.
The bottle would then be refilled. The game would be played again. And again.
Once you started to lose you would probably keep losing, because one of the effects of Janx Spirit is to depress telepsychic power. As soon as a predetermined quantity had been consumed, the final loser would have to perform a forfeit, which was usually obscenely biological.
Ford Prefect usually played to lose.