Ah-ah, I know what you're thinking, "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I've kind of lost track myself. But being this is a.44 Magnum - the most powerful handgun in the world - and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
While I stand corrected on Japanese Civilian knowledge of atrocities, I don't for a moment buy the German excuse.
There were a number of concentration camps in Germany. Dachau Concentration Camp is RIGHT IN THE VILLAGE OF DACHAU. Pretty much impossible not to notice the stench of burning bodies.
If the Poles around places like Auschwitz were aware of what was happening, even if Germans claimed they didn't, it seems to me they were more willfully ignoring it than unaware of it.
Seriously, that link is to the 'Daily Mail', the sensationalism in that paper is renowned. Even its founder (Lord Northcliffe) said its winning formula is to give readers: 'a daily hate [indopedia.org]'. This is the same paper that pays foreign people to break the law [blogspot.com], so they can report about how East Europeans are 'destroying Britain'.
Reminds me of a scene from "Yes, Prime Minister:"
Jim: I know exactly who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country. The Times is read by people who actually do run the country. The Daily Mirror is read by the wives of the people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country. The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big tits.
I don't see why it's surprising that Chinese and Koreans are still sore about Japan. To this day, Japan's high-ranking officials have paid both personal and state visits to shrines containing memorials to convicted WW2 war criminals [wikipedia.org]. If a German chancellor was to humbly visit Hitler's birthplace, that would certainly be seen as an unspeakable act. If Nazi Germany was in power today, would you also suggest the Jews of the world to "forgive" them as well?
There's a distinction between Nazi Germany and WWII Japan that I have seen many people make: In Nazi Germany, the horrors, Holocaust, etc. were carried out with the active collusion of a large section of the populace, and in many cases, right in Germany. I don't just mean Jews, Communists, etc. being rounded up in Germany (which of course most of the population participated in) but also concentration camps that were actually on German soil - Dachau, for example, right outside Munich.
On the other hand, the horrors and atrocities (and they definitely were massive atrocities) committed by the Japanese were committed by their Army, in foreign countries, ie. China, SE Asia, Korea, etc. So, while the population of Japan undoubtedly contributed in some way, it was not the active and knowing participation that one saw with Nazi Germany.
While I don't think it justifies anything, it does make me look at the respective populations a little bit differently.
Strangely enough, my Grandfather, who fought against both the Germans and Japanese during WWII, hated the Japanese to his dying day (and I really do mean HATED.) He didn't mind the Germans at all. But his hatred was based on Japan's horrible treatment of Prisoners of War, against Germany's relatively humane treatment of them.
Hmm. Well if you think there's more poverty now than in the 30's, and less education, I'll just need to laugh, turn, and walk away.
Less poverty? Let's put it this way - please conclusively prove that the welfare state "safety net" was responsible for the increase in prosperity between 1939 and now. I would argue that the rise of a post-war welfare state is what has stripped some of that prosperity away.
"Less education" now? I never said that. It depends on how you define "education!" To me, what youths receive in public schools currently, for the most part, falls far short of "education." From what I can see, a US public school is about 20% Education and 80% behaviour modification laboratory, it's main goal to turn out "well adjusted" members of society.
You take a graduate of High School this year, an average one, and compare it directly with a graduate in the 1960s, before the government got as heavily involved in education, and I think you'll find the differences are striking.
Go Obama!! Don't you mean Ron Paul? No, because I've actually studied economics (as opposed to reading a few Ayn Rand novels).
Yes, of course, and Ron Paul hasn't studied, for example, Ludwig Von Mises, Frederik Hayek, and other noted economists...
Just because he doesn't subscribe to your Keynesian theories (or whatever other current fad they taught you) doesn't mean he's wrong.
I think you'll find that many people who've actually studied economics seriously also agree with much of what he says - it's not as if he's invented a new economic theory, he is an advocate of the Austrian school of economics. Nothing to do with Ayn Rand (although there are similarities.)
But, looking at it that way might make a little harder to blindly dismiss him as trivial, wouldn't it? So, let's not do that.
On the other side, you have people who believe that social safety nets bring up the whole system--because they limit the formation of a highly disenfranchised class (who then turn to crime, etc.), protect everyone (even those who have, so far, been lucky enough to not need them), and they allow people to take "risks" (like getting an education), which often leads to progress.
Both viewpoints have some merit. On the balance, I think that a well-run social program can lift society more than the distributed burden it engenders (e.g. I think libraries do more good in educating than the cost we must communally bear to fund them). I do, however, agree that people need to take responsibility for their actions (e.g. irresponsible borrowing of money).
Yeah, because the Social Safety Net in place since the Depression has really succeeded in reducing the underclass who turn to crime - crime is SO much less of a problem now! Oh, and education - yeah, what a success - the education level and literacy rate has just skyrocketed!
Seriously, man, if you believe that stuff works, you're welcome to spend your money on it. Most of us who disagree simply resent having our money stolen from us to pay for these things that we don't think are valid or that even work.
And what makes it even more interesting is that one of the major ringleaders against Clinton, the House Majority Leader Newt Gingrich, was having an extra-marital affair the whole time he was railing against Clinton!
I remember when that piece of news came out, I guess it was about a year ago, and seeing how he got off virtually scot-free in the popular press. Clinton, alas, got no such luxury, whether he deserved it or not. To me, the hypocrisy is striking
Although we are slowly recovering from the inferiority complex we were given after the war - it's not anymore politically incorrect for a German to say that he likes his country.
Disclaimer: I had family die in the Holocaust and also in combat in WWII, and a grandfather and great uncle who lived with their painful injuries for many years afterward.
I'll probably get modded down for this, but..
This is the sort of German whining that's replaced their arrogance from before and during WWII, and I for one am tired of it.
Seriously, get over it. 6 Million Jews and other systematically exterminated. The ACTIVE COMPLICITY and PARTICIPATION of tens of thousands, or more, "normal" German citizens in carrying it out. And now you whine about feeling "inferior" because you were beaten? And it's someone else's fault now? You were given an inferiority complex?
It would not be until 1897, after people had already made fortunes exploiting electricity, that the English scientist J. J. Thomson discovered what it actually was...'"
No way! Everyone knows Benjamin Franklin discovered electricity flying his kite, with a key attached...
Apple with a fraction a of the software guys can keep their OS on two major different style of chips PowerPC, and Intel x86, along with 32bit and 64 bit versions of both.
Who knows what might happen when he gets in office, though.
That's a stupid objection that could be applied anywhere to anyone. Why bother with what the candidates say or have done at all, in that case? "Vote Hitler! I know he *said* he'd kill all the Jews, but who knows what might happen when he gets in office?"
Not true. The OP describes a *skeptical* approach to politicians' promises, which is healthy, whereas your facetious example is *naive*.
Sorry, you're right. I actually read the BBC article earlier this morning - couldn't get to the linked page above for some reason!
However, it's quite possible, even likely, that they are being driven over the border by logging but are still uncontacted.
It's the knock-on effect. That is, pressure from loggers can press one group to migrate, which pushes other groups in their path, and so on.
An historic example would be the great east to west migrations of antiguity, taking place over several hundred years, and which were ultimately one of the causes of the fall of the Roman Empire. The tribes that finally crossed the Rhine quite likely had no contact with the peoples who started the migration in the east, but they certainly felt the effects.
They are probably using the term uncontacted very loosely.
These people are being driven from Peru closer to the Brazil border by loggers. You don't get driven anywhere without contact of some kind unless just the noise of whatever they're using to cut down the trees is making them move.
Maybe they just like to sleep in.
Not necessarily. Actually, if you RTFA, you'll see that this particular tribe is actually growing in numbers, but that other tribes in the area are being driven away by loggers. They don't make a claim that the other tribes are "uncontacted."
Hmmm... I feel safer killing insurgents in their backyard rather than killing them here, but I am probably strange that way.
Yes, you are strange that way.
You prefer, it seems, to create a huge number of insurgents, just for the purpose of fighting them?
Here's a little knowledge bomb I'm going to drop your way... They weren't there until you invaded. At least they weren't insurgents then.
"Fight them over there so we don't have to at home" is such an odious and incredibly false catch phrase. Really it disappoints me that so many Americans swallow it. How about, don't fight them over there or at home?
That's quite an impassioned response. Next time perhaps you should make an attempt to understand the post.
No-where do I say that I "choose" the Republican party. I don't even support them.
What I'm attempting to highlight is the idea that the Republican party would "naturally" tend toward this behaviour. 30 years ago? No, more like 20 AT THE MOST. Sure, the Regan and Bush I administrations were a betrayal of limited government conservatism, but they absolutely pale in comparison to the current incumbent. He makes them look like libertarians.
So, because I believe in a smaller federal government I'm a "wingnut extremist"? Wow. I suppose the other "wingnut extremists" include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Quincy Adams, and a host of others of similar reputation?
20 years wasn't that long ago. That's my point. It's not ancient history or something.
IMO, the best light weight distribution is Debian. A net installation leaves you with nothing but a console. You can apt-get anything you need, and only what you need.
A similar argument could be made for other distros, including Ubuntu - ie. an install without a GUI.
Why do you need a specific distribution for this? What does the Debian based Damn Small Linux offer me that plain Debian doesn't?
Not unnecessarily. We can assume that a candidate will chose subordinates who are in tune with his or her ideals. They might not understand the specifics of tech policy, but a democrat is likely to choose someone who is pro civil-liberties, while a republican is likely to go more pragmatic. They won't drive the policy, but the tone of their administration will show through in technology issues.
Not true!
The Bush Administration != Republicans. The democratic party has been more in favour of big government, and therefore anti-civil liberties.
It is only the current crop of Republican "yes men" (and let's face it, the Democrats have been no better in recent years when it's their team in charge) who've been determined to turn the USA into a fascist state.
IMHO there is only one solution, and it doesn't lie in either Obama or McCain. We need to cure this country's dangerous addicition to Executive Power.
If the checks and balances written into the US constitution were observed again, and the dictatorial power of the executive branch (gained more by precedent than legitimate legislation) civil liberties would not be an issue.
The Bill of Rights doesn't give a list of rights you posess, it gives a list of rights that the government cannot take away under any circumstances.
It's also stated in the constitution that any power not explicitly given to the federal government belongs to the states or the people.
Mod Parent up!
So many people in the US don't seem to understand this point. If they did, I personally think we'd be in much better shape overall.
The point of the US Constitution is NOT to delineate peoples' rights - it is there to explicitly state the ONLY circumstances in which the government can infringe upon them.
The Tenth Amendment specifically clarifies that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Essentially, all rights not mentioned in the Constitution one way or the other, no matter how obscure, are still in force.
This kind of escapism just doesn't help. Either fix your own nation or stop complaining. Running away stopped being an option when the West was settled, and it won't be an option again until we figure out FTL travel.
You know, for many people it simply isn't an option any more. What are the legal means you have in the USA - you can vote locally, for congress senate and the President.
Let's face it, for all federal elections (where most power is concentrated these days) you get two choices, which are virtually the same person when it comes down to it.
If you really intend to "fix your own nation" you virtually have to dedicate your entire life to doing so.
It is simply unfair to condemn people because they haven't "fixed their own nation" in the face of their compatriots' ignorance and big-government vested interest. It could be argued that it makes more sense to run away to sea - it may be more efficient!
I saw the same thing - IE Tab was working immediately I updated to RC 1 yesterday.
However I also noticed, after the update, that the old memory leak seems to be back - Beta 4 and 5 were SO much better than FF 2.0x, in terms of memory.
Now, with RC 1, I've got 3 tabs open, after 15 minutes, with no extensions except IE Tab and Web Developer, and already at 140MB used.
Has anyone else noticed memory usage expand again with this RC?
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+5 Insightful? I actually thought that OP was going for the "Funny" mod. Especially the first line:
Once the Obama administration comes in and sets the white house in orderThat part had me in stitches...
Ah-ah, I know what you're thinking, "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I've kind of lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum - the most powerful handgun in the world - and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?
By listening in with the Quantum eavesdropper, you've changed what they were actually saying!
While I stand corrected on Japanese Civilian knowledge of atrocities, I don't for a moment buy the German excuse.
There were a number of concentration camps in Germany. Dachau Concentration Camp is RIGHT IN THE VILLAGE OF DACHAU. Pretty much impossible not to notice the stench of burning bodies.
If the Poles around places like Auschwitz were aware of what was happening, even if Germans claimed they didn't, it seems to me they were more willfully ignoring it than unaware of it.
Reminds me of a scene from "Yes, Prime Minister:"
Jim: I know exactly who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country. The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country. The Times is read by people who actually do run the country. The Daily Mirror is read by the wives of the people who run the country. The Financial Times is read by people who own the country. The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country. The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.
Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about people who read the Sun.
Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big tits.
There's a distinction between Nazi Germany and WWII Japan that I have seen many people make: In Nazi Germany, the horrors, Holocaust, etc. were carried out with the active collusion of a large section of the populace, and in many cases, right in Germany. I don't just mean Jews, Communists, etc. being rounded up in Germany (which of course most of the population participated in) but also concentration camps that were actually on German soil - Dachau, for example, right outside Munich.
On the other hand, the horrors and atrocities (and they definitely were massive atrocities) committed by the Japanese were committed by their Army, in foreign countries, ie. China, SE Asia, Korea, etc. So, while the population of Japan undoubtedly contributed in some way, it was not the active and knowing participation that one saw with Nazi Germany.
While I don't think it justifies anything, it does make me look at the respective populations a little bit differently.
Strangely enough, my Grandfather, who fought against both the Germans and Japanese during WWII, hated the Japanese to his dying day (and I really do mean HATED.) He didn't mind the Germans at all. But his hatred was based on Japan's horrible treatment of Prisoners of War, against Germany's relatively humane treatment of them.
Less poverty? Let's put it this way - please conclusively prove that the welfare state "safety net" was responsible for the increase in prosperity between 1939 and now. I would argue that the rise of a post-war welfare state is what has stripped some of that prosperity away.
"Less education" now? I never said that. It depends on how you define "education!" To me, what youths receive in public schools currently, for the most part, falls far short of "education." From what I can see, a US public school is about 20% Education and 80% behaviour modification laboratory, it's main goal to turn out "well adjusted" members of society.
You take a graduate of High School this year, an average one, and compare it directly with a graduate in the 1960s, before the government got as heavily involved in education, and I think you'll find the differences are striking.
It's a feature!
Yes, of course, and Ron Paul hasn't studied, for example, Ludwig Von Mises, Frederik Hayek, and other noted economists...
Just because he doesn't subscribe to your Keynesian theories (or whatever other current fad they taught you) doesn't mean he's wrong.
I think you'll find that many people who've actually studied economics seriously also agree with much of what he says - it's not as if he's invented a new economic theory, he is an advocate of the Austrian school of economics. Nothing to do with Ayn Rand (although there are similarities.)
But, looking at it that way might make a little harder to blindly dismiss him as trivial, wouldn't it? So, let's not do that.
Yeah, because the Social Safety Net in place since the Depression has really succeeded in reducing the underclass who turn to crime - crime is SO much less of a problem now! Oh, and education - yeah, what a success - the education level and literacy rate has just skyrocketed!
Seriously, man, if you believe that stuff works, you're welcome to spend your money on it. Most of us who disagree simply resent having our money stolen from us to pay for these things that we don't think are valid or that even work.
And what makes it even more interesting is that one of the major ringleaders against Clinton, the House Majority Leader Newt Gingrich, was having an extra-marital affair the whole time he was railing against Clinton!
I remember when that piece of news came out, I guess it was about a year ago, and seeing how he got off virtually scot-free in the popular press. Clinton, alas, got no such luxury, whether he deserved it or not. To me, the hypocrisy is striking
Disclaimer: I had family die in the Holocaust and also in combat in WWII, and a grandfather and great uncle who lived with their painful injuries for many years afterward.
I'll probably get modded down for this, but..
This is the sort of German whining that's replaced their arrogance from before and during WWII, and I for one am tired of it.
Seriously, get over it. 6 Million Jews and other systematically exterminated. The ACTIVE COMPLICITY and PARTICIPATION of tens of thousands, or more, "normal" German citizens in carrying it out. And now you whine about feeling "inferior" because you were beaten? And it's someone else's fault now? You were given an inferiority complex?
Cry me a F*cken river.
No way! Everyone knows Benjamin Franklin discovered electricity flying his kite, with a key attached...
Not for their next version.
Who knows what might happen when he gets in office, though.
That's a stupid objection that could be applied anywhere to anyone. Why bother with what the candidates say or have done at all, in that case? "Vote Hitler! I know he *said* he'd kill all the Jews, but who knows what might happen when he gets in office?"
Not true. The OP describes a *skeptical* approach to politicians' promises, which is healthy, whereas your facetious example is *naive*.
Big difference!
I've actually been using digbsy for about the last month. While it's only a windows app at the moment, a linux version is in development.
It's been excellent, and integrates facebook chat as well, which I haven't seen any other chat applications do as yet. I recommend it.
Sorry, you're right. I actually read the BBC article earlier this morning - couldn't get to the linked page above for some reason!
However, it's quite possible, even likely, that they are being driven over the border by logging but are still uncontacted.
It's the knock-on effect. That is, pressure from loggers can press one group to migrate, which pushes other groups in their path, and so on.
An historic example would be the great east to west migrations of antiguity, taking place over several hundred years, and which were ultimately one of the causes of the fall of the Roman Empire. The tribes that finally crossed the Rhine quite likely had no contact with the peoples who started the migration in the east, but they certainly felt the effects.
Not necessarily. Actually, if you RTFA, you'll see that this particular tribe is actually growing in numbers, but that other tribes in the area are being driven away by loggers. They don't make a claim that the other tribes are "uncontacted."
Yes, you are strange that way.
You prefer, it seems, to create a huge number of insurgents, just for the purpose of fighting them?
Here's a little knowledge bomb I'm going to drop your way... They weren't there until you invaded. At least they weren't insurgents then.
"Fight them over there so we don't have to at home" is such an odious and incredibly false catch phrase. Really it disappoints me that so many Americans swallow it. How about, don't fight them over there or at home?
That's quite an impassioned response. Next time perhaps you should make an attempt to understand the post.
No-where do I say that I "choose" the Republican party. I don't even support them.
What I'm attempting to highlight is the idea that the Republican party would "naturally" tend toward this behaviour. 30 years ago? No, more like 20 AT THE MOST. Sure, the Regan and Bush I administrations were a betrayal of limited government conservatism, but they absolutely pale in comparison to the current incumbent. He makes them look like libertarians.
So, because I believe in a smaller federal government I'm a "wingnut extremist"? Wow. I suppose the other "wingnut extremists" include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Quincy Adams, and a host of others of similar reputation?
20 years wasn't that long ago. That's my point. It's not ancient history or something.
A similar argument could be made for other distros, including Ubuntu - ie. an install without a GUI.
Why do you need a specific distribution for this? What does the Debian based Damn Small Linux offer me that plain Debian doesn't?A less resource-hungry GUI by default?
Not true!
The Bush Administration != Republicans. The democratic party has been more in favour of big government, and therefore anti-civil liberties.
It is only the current crop of Republican "yes men" (and let's face it, the Democrats have been no better in recent years when it's their team in charge) who've been determined to turn the USA into a fascist state.
IMHO there is only one solution, and it doesn't lie in either Obama or McCain. We need to cure this country's dangerous addicition to Executive Power.
If the checks and balances written into the US constitution were observed again, and the dictatorial power of the executive branch (gained more by precedent than legitimate legislation) civil liberties would not be an issue.
Mod Parent up!
So many people in the US don't seem to understand this point. If they did, I personally think we'd be in much better shape overall.
The point of the US Constitution is NOT to delineate peoples' rights - it is there to explicitly state the ONLY circumstances in which the government can infringe upon them.
The Tenth Amendment specifically clarifies that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Essentially, all rights not mentioned in the Constitution one way or the other, no matter how obscure, are still in force.
You know, for many people it simply isn't an option any more. What are the legal means you have in the USA - you can vote locally, for congress senate and the President.
Let's face it, for all federal elections (where most power is concentrated these days) you get two choices, which are virtually the same person when it comes down to it.
If you really intend to "fix your own nation" you virtually have to dedicate your entire life to doing so.
It is simply unfair to condemn people because they haven't "fixed their own nation" in the face of their compatriots' ignorance and big-government vested interest. It could be argued that it makes more sense to run away to sea - it may be more efficient!
I saw the same thing - IE Tab was working immediately I updated to RC 1 yesterday.
However I also noticed, after the update, that the old memory leak seems to be back - Beta 4 and 5 were SO much better than FF 2.0x, in terms of memory.
Now, with RC 1, I've got 3 tabs open, after 15 minutes, with no extensions except IE Tab and Web Developer, and already at 140MB used.
Has anyone else noticed memory usage expand again with this RC?