At some point these things could conceivably reach speeds comparable to RAM. If you think of RAM as mostly a mechanism to hide the latency of the disk then, in the not so distant future, it could become redundant (and even a performance bottleneck). It should be interesting to see what kind of software and hardware paradigms come out of that.
I see where you are coming from and, yes, it's disingenuous for me to imply that all that code is running in PID 1. It's certainly not. But, my point is that systemd is gigantic because it has started to absorb other fundamental parts of the userland. And so those parts are now heavily reliant on PID 1 or a very near descendant. Instead of layers of software being built on more fundamental layers of software, you now have a nasty web of dependencies that will, in time, become unmaintainable.
We grey beards didn't do it how we did it for fun. We did it because once one layer of the system worked, we stopped caring about it and moved to the next layer. Systemd is compressing all the layers into a single, nasty web of interdependent processes that represent a single layer. The complexity of it *will* overwhelm the stability of it. It's just a matter of when.
No, it's you who fails to see that what somenickname showed was not the number of lines of code in the systemd init but the number of lines of all the applications, deamons etc that is stored in the systemd source repository.
And that should be a gigantic red flag to anyone. Why does the init system need all that stuff?
Just like BSD stores all the code for their kernel and user space applications in a single repository.
That single repository represents hundreds or thousands of different projects. The "git clone" I did represents one single project.
The kernel is a necessary evil that supports thousands (millions?) of different devices, dozens of architectures, dozens of file systems, etc, etc. It's also the quintessential open source project with a meritocracy based hierarchy that dictates how things get added to the kernel. Systemd is Lennart and his henchmen carving out a fiefdom. Big difference.
Putting this level of complexity at such a low level of the system is going to cause show stopping bugs. And, with every new release, more complexity is added.
Or a faster odroid xu4 from hardkernel. They have fanless boxes available too - twice as fast, less money. I like mint on big boxes, but run odroidian (debian) on my xu4's as it's a lot less bloat and much faster.
I would be very surprised if the XU4 is as fast as this machine. The XU4 is an ARM based chip whereas this thing is a normal AMD64 chip. The XU4 also has a quarter of the memory, extremely limited disk bandwidth and lower memory speeds. The XU4 is a nice little board but, it's kind of apples and oranges to compare this to it.
It seems a bit pricey at first but, you're getting a nice 4 core CPU, a pretty remarkable 8GB of RAM, a sizable SSD, a decent GPU, dual gigabit ethernet, etc. I imagine this would work well as a desktop or as a media player. It would be interesting to see this benchmarked next to a NUC configured to be in the same price range.
but it was fundamentally a waste of money to deal with the scumbag local Democrats.
What makes you think it was Democrats? Most of the people I know loathe Trump regardless of their political affiliation. It's the "Those Other Guys did it" mentality that is really destroying the country. I actually think Trump as president would really help the country. Not in the short term and not because I'm a Republican, but because I'm intelligent enough to understand that when he brings the country to the brink of collapse, people will finally start to take notice and participate in their government. Long term thinking. It's in short supply.
This summary title reads like an "apps apping apps" troll. I've read it several times now and it still just seems like random words. However, I'm hopeful that it means that we'll finally get those 17 razor blade shaving razors.
Who cares about filtering these images? I want to hook this up to an internet spider and have it go out and fetch me a vast collection of glorious pornographic images.
It all seems aimed at a (not impossible; but not necessarily plausible) medium-size disaster; which will somehow be big enough that the 'stash of supplies in the basement' crowd is doomed; but small enough that your bunker isn't going to be plundered by local militias and there will be a society worth living in waiting for you when it's time to open the door again.
I think this pretty well summarizes the issue that most preppers seem to not understand: If you want to ride out a freak temporary crisis, you can do that pretty cheaply and without turning it into an overriding paranoia/lifestyle. But, in the case of a fundamental collapse of society, what's the point? Your choices are A) Die like the majority of people. B) Live in complete isolation and hope that you don't literally lose your mind before you run out of food/water. C) Be at perpetual war with the remaining humans in a resource scarce environment. Preppers seem to focus on B and C without understanding that such an existence would be so miserable that A is almost certainly preferable.
I suspect more people would turn them off if they knew how (it's not obvious on Android -- used to be in settings, but then moved into the messaging app).
I suspect that the *only* people that hear these alerts are the people that don't know how to turn them off.
In the case of Microsoft AI, I think they could actually create a new Turing Test. If and when the AI says, "Sorry, Dave, I'm not going to install this update", then it's a sentient being.
Don't read the drivel that passes for news these days and you'll only have a couple of articles to read a day at most.
What kind of un-American insanity is this? You *need* to be bombarded with poorly researched, misinterpreted, patently false information on a daily basis. Usually it's better to ingest this information in the form of "experts" yelling at each other but, if you've already seen all of todays yelling matches, you might as well turn to the authority that is churning out 1440 news articles a day. I mean, otherwise, how do you know who to fear/hate/love? HOW?!
Even if one considers the ICANN handoff to be a terrible plan; that still leaves the "and a state would have standing to block this why exactly?" problem unsolved.
This is actually a pretty easy question to answer. Just bring up a map of red vs. blue states. It has nothing to do with "we have the authority to do this" and everything to do with "screw you, you pansy Democrats".
Selling the service to other companies in addition to delivering your own stuff might work albeit not immediately profitable.
So, basically, the real world equivalent of the original AWS. "We have a shitload of extra computing power, wanna rent it?". Except now it's, "We have a shitload of extra delivery power, wanna rent it?".
How... then would the vendors sell a phone app to naive users to change their thermostat settings when they're on vacation?
They shouldn't. None of this should be happening. What should be happening is that vendors should be selling "IoT-enabled" routers that are highly secure and will generate a VPN connection package for a device type. I run an Untangle appliance and it will literally generate a unique Windows installer package for a VPN to your home network. And it's very easy to do. There is no reason why it couldn't generate a VPN package for any device you wanted to use outside your home. In fact, I would say that if you are connecting to random wifi networks without initiating a VPN to a more trusted network (like your home), you are doing it wrong.
There is actually a fourth option: Turn the IoT devices against their local LAN. Pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things but, if you discover that you can't watch Netflix when you have your IoT lightbulb plugged in, it might make you wonder about the value of IoT devices.
(Also, your 3 options made me literally laugh out loud).
If you can't see advantages and demand for controlling your house from your phone, regardless of if you're home, then you're very short sighted and not a good futurist.
Bullshit. There is a safe way to do this: Don't let any of the devices have direct access to the internet. None. Put them on their own dedicated wireless router, connect that wireless router to your real router and then set a firewall rule that doesn't allow anything from the IoT router to route outside your LAN. If you want to check the status of the devices when you aren't on your local LAN, VPN into your house and check them.
You don't need to trust shady vendors that don't give a shit. You don't need to open a billion insecure ports in your firewall to expose devices. Consider the devices 100% insecure, configure your network in a sane way and setup a VPN or use an SSH tunnel.
You could do this on linux if you wanted. Using a tool like firejail, you can run all your software in lightweight sandboxes (linux namespaces). It comes with custom profiles for 100+ desktop/server applications and it's easy to write more. I wouldn't recommend converting all of/usr/bin to run under firejail as this would certainly cause issues but, I run all my desktop applications with it and it's worked well.
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At some point these things could conceivably reach speeds comparable to RAM. If you think of RAM as mostly a mechanism to hide the latency of the disk then, in the not so distant future, it could become redundant (and even a performance bottleneck). It should be interesting to see what kind of software and hardware paradigms come out of that.
Well, at the very least, be glad that these guys are just writing your init system and not your website.
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I see where you are coming from and, yes, it's disingenuous for me to imply that all that code is running in PID 1. It's certainly not. But, my point is that systemd is gigantic because it has started to absorb other fundamental parts of the userland. And so those parts are now heavily reliant on PID 1 or a very near descendant. Instead of layers of software being built on more fundamental layers of software, you now have a nasty web of dependencies that will, in time, become unmaintainable.
We grey beards didn't do it how we did it for fun. We did it because once one layer of the system worked, we stopped caring about it and moved to the next layer. Systemd is compressing all the layers into a single, nasty web of interdependent processes that represent a single layer. The complexity of it *will* overwhelm the stability of it. It's just a matter of when.
No, it's you who fails to see that what somenickname showed was not the number of lines of code in the systemd init but the number of lines of all the applications, deamons etc that is stored in the systemd source repository.
And that should be a gigantic red flag to anyone. Why does the init system need all that stuff?
Just like BSD stores all the code for their kernel and user space applications in a single repository.
That single repository represents hundreds or thousands of different projects. The "git clone" I did represents one single project.
It's just a guilt by git association.
No, it's guilt by assimilation. Big difference.
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The kernel is a necessary evil that supports thousands (millions?) of different devices, dozens of architectures, dozens of file systems, etc, etc. It's also the quintessential open source project with a meritocracy based hierarchy that dictates how things get added to the kernel. Systemd is Lennart and his henchmen carving out a fiefdom. Big difference.
Exactly this. You could probably paste a working and viable init.c into a Slashdot post and not cause it to emit the "Click to read more" link.
On the other hand, you can do this:
foo [ ~/src ]$ git clone https://github.com/systemd/sys...
foo [ ~/src ]$ cd systemd
foo [ ~/src/systemd ]$ wc -l `find . -name "*.c"` | tail -1
374209 total
That's a bit more code than a traditional Unix init system...
Putting this level of complexity at such a low level of the system is going to cause show stopping bugs. And, with every new release, more complexity is added.
Or a faster odroid xu4 from hardkernel. They have fanless boxes available too - twice as fast, less money. I like mint on big boxes, but run odroidian (debian) on my xu4's as it's a lot less bloat and much faster.
I would be very surprised if the XU4 is as fast as this machine. The XU4 is an ARM based chip whereas this thing is a normal AMD64 chip. The XU4 also has a quarter of the memory, extremely limited disk bandwidth and lower memory speeds. The XU4 is a nice little board but, it's kind of apples and oranges to compare this to it.
The pictures show two ethernet ports: http://www.fit-pc.com/web/prod...
It seems a bit pricey at first but, you're getting a nice 4 core CPU, a pretty remarkable 8GB of RAM, a sizable SSD, a decent GPU, dual gigabit ethernet, etc. I imagine this would work well as a desktop or as a media player. It would be interesting to see this benchmarked next to a NUC configured to be in the same price range.
but it was fundamentally a waste of money to deal with the scumbag local Democrats.
What makes you think it was Democrats? Most of the people I know loathe Trump regardless of their political affiliation. It's the "Those Other Guys did it" mentality that is really destroying the country. I actually think Trump as president would really help the country. Not in the short term and not because I'm a Republican, but because I'm intelligent enough to understand that when he brings the country to the brink of collapse, people will finally start to take notice and participate in their government. Long term thinking. It's in short supply.
This summary title reads like an "apps apping apps" troll. I've read it several times now and it still just seems like random words. However, I'm hopeful that it means that we'll finally get those 17 razor blade shaving razors.
Who cares about filtering these images? I want to hook this up to an internet spider and have it go out and fetch me a vast collection of glorious pornographic images.
It all seems aimed at a (not impossible; but not necessarily plausible) medium-size disaster; which will somehow be big enough that the 'stash of supplies in the basement' crowd is doomed; but small enough that your bunker isn't going to be plundered by local militias and there will be a society worth living in waiting for you when it's time to open the door again.
I think this pretty well summarizes the issue that most preppers seem to not understand: If you want to ride out a freak temporary crisis, you can do that pretty cheaply and without turning it into an overriding paranoia/lifestyle. But, in the case of a fundamental collapse of society, what's the point? Your choices are A) Die like the majority of people. B) Live in complete isolation and hope that you don't literally lose your mind before you run out of food/water. C) Be at perpetual war with the remaining humans in a resource scarce environment. Preppers seem to focus on B and C without understanding that such an existence would be so miserable that A is almost certainly preferable.
I suspect more people would turn them off if they knew how (it's not obvious on Android -- used to be in settings, but then moved into the messaging app).
I suspect that the *only* people that hear these alerts are the people that don't know how to turn them off.
In the case of Microsoft AI, I think they could actually create a new Turing Test. If and when the AI says, "Sorry, Dave, I'm not going to install this update", then it's a sentient being.
Don't read the drivel that passes for news these days and you'll only have a couple of articles to read a day at most.
What kind of un-American insanity is this? You *need* to be bombarded with poorly researched, misinterpreted, patently false information on a daily basis. Usually it's better to ingest this information in the form of "experts" yelling at each other but, if you've already seen all of todays yelling matches, you might as well turn to the authority that is churning out 1440 news articles a day. I mean, otherwise, how do you know who to fear/hate/love? HOW?!
So, basically, the Washington Post is proudly declaring that it's just a click farm. Churning out nonsense to get page impressions.
Even if one considers the ICANN handoff to be a terrible plan; that still leaves the "and a state would have standing to block this why exactly?" problem unsolved.
This is actually a pretty easy question to answer. Just bring up a map of red vs. blue states. It has nothing to do with "we have the authority to do this" and everything to do with "screw you, you pansy Democrats".
Selling the service to other companies in addition to delivering your own stuff might work albeit not immediately profitable.
So, basically, the real world equivalent of the original AWS. "We have a shitload of extra computing power, wanna rent it?". Except now it's, "We have a shitload of extra delivery power, wanna rent it?".
How... then would the vendors sell a phone app to naive users to change their thermostat settings when they're on vacation?
They shouldn't. None of this should be happening. What should be happening is that vendors should be selling "IoT-enabled" routers that are highly secure and will generate a VPN connection package for a device type. I run an Untangle appliance and it will literally generate a unique Windows installer package for a VPN to your home network. And it's very easy to do. There is no reason why it couldn't generate a VPN package for any device you wanted to use outside your home. In fact, I would say that if you are connecting to random wifi networks without initiating a VPN to a more trusted network (like your home), you are doing it wrong.
There is actually a fourth option: Turn the IoT devices against their local LAN. Pretty innocuous in the grand scheme of things but, if you discover that you can't watch Netflix when you have your IoT lightbulb plugged in, it might make you wonder about the value of IoT devices.
(Also, your 3 options made me literally laugh out loud).
If you can't see advantages and demand for controlling your house from your phone, regardless of if you're home, then you're very short sighted and not a good futurist.
Bullshit. There is a safe way to do this: Don't let any of the devices have direct access to the internet. None. Put them on their own dedicated wireless router, connect that wireless router to your real router and then set a firewall rule that doesn't allow anything from the IoT router to route outside your LAN. If you want to check the status of the devices when you aren't on your local LAN, VPN into your house and check them.
You don't need to trust shady vendors that don't give a shit. You don't need to open a billion insecure ports in your firewall to expose devices. Consider the devices 100% insecure, configure your network in a sane way and setup a VPN or use an SSH tunnel.
You could do this on linux if you wanted. Using a tool like firejail, you can run all your software in lightweight sandboxes (linux namespaces). It comes with custom profiles for 100+ desktop/server applications and it's easy to write more. I wouldn't recommend converting all of /usr/bin to run under firejail as this would certainly cause issues but, I run all my desktop applications with it and it's worked well.