Yeah, the hit big or miss big imbalance is an interesting challenge. Perhaps a less top-heavy industry would be a good idea. I figure the changes in the industry allow more room for middle-class successes, which would smooth out out that curve, even though there will still be big winners and big losers.
Well that all is plausible as well. Well, know exactly that it's at least USian
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People often like doing things they're not particularly good at.:P It's the businessmen who enable it, spread it far and wide.
And yes, there are some people out there who really honestly dislike The Beatles et al and really honestly like Britney et al (and some intersection between those two groups)
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that is, evne if they like to do it, they still would take financial considerations into account to an extent.
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As a practical matter the people that need to be involved (including the main artist) need to generate enough $ to make it livable, even if it's something they like to do.
I'd often reseed with better names and metadata rather than make a second copy or go through that procedure. (is that procedure even feasible on Windows XP?) Better organization for the next user of the torrent.
Sometimes it's uploader laziness (or a jumbled collection that they understandably don't want to organize), sometimes it's a tagging system you don't like, sometimes it's an uploader group engaged in the seemingly-juvenile practice of plastering their group's name all over the place. It's analogous to open source - if you want to improve upon it, you have the practical/technical ability to do so.:)
I run uTorrent and have several dozen torrents in it; I use both TPB and DHT. Sometimes I get 'queued seed' or a red arrow. However, only at most a dozen or so torrents seem to be sending out data at any one time. (I tend to let old torrents continue to seed) uTorrent lets you choose the destination directory when opening a torrent; I do select something appropriate to my usual organization schemes and thus end up seeding the files and using the files form the same place. My Documents\Downloads is just used as a sort of 'other'. I do sometimes upload/reseed a torrent with the benefit of renamed and retagged files. (I can suffer minor problems in metadata without bothering with this). Sometimes I combine several downloads into a larger torrent, sometimes I make one torrent that breaks off pieces of a larger torrent.
Sometimes I don't feel the need to continue to seed a torrent that already has a bazillion other seeders (although I'll leave well enough alone); it's more important to maintain your own uploads or other torrents with only a few seeders. My upload bandwith sucks anyway.
Although the bandwagon effect is a valid concern, I think there may also be network effects at work, which are perfectly logical to accommodate. This doesn't improve the quality of the recordings themselves, but it can improve the quality of the overall experience including but not limited to the concerts, to have a larger fanbase involved. Something cool about being part of smaller groups too - a preference, another option.
I'm reminded of outfits like Trade Mark Of Quality that got concert bootleg tapes pressed to vinyl. That particular company's domain was mainstream classic rock (they got some really good stuff in that genre) instead of hardcore punk, but seems like a similar idea
Yeah. Honestly, extreme punk and metal are amongst the few genres I can't listen to - got a wide array of other stuff, including good less-extreme punk/metal (The Clash, Iron Maiden, et cetera)
also, having the same thing available on multiple filesharing services increases content availability, period - some people know about or prefer one over another. For example, putting up a torrent version of content picked up from YouTube or MediaFire
In general, there can be value in the grunt work of building one large convenient collection.
Seems like it would be hard to find rare stuff whether in physical or Internet form. However, it seems the availability situation would improve once someone puts it in filesharing form. Mirroring the content's availability in another filesharing format is also helpful.
I have noticed that filesharing (and other Internet-related industry changes) can work as well for the majors as they do for indies, whether or not the majors have that through their thick skulls yet. Although majors dominance is decreased in this new environment, it's thus still present to an extent
And who are you to legislate taste? My stuff is better because it's less popular seems no better than 'my stuff is better because it's more popular'.
Cost for recordings is similar, but I'd agree that under-the-RIAA-radar concerts tend to be a lot cheaper. I see the different types of concert experience as complementary rather than competitive, and I more see the small shows as extra-cheap than the large shows as extra-expensive. However, I'm not to magically like the cheaper stuff.
Frankly, enthusiasm for particular musicians has increased my enthusiasm for music in general, even wildly varying genres and business models, including loosening my pursestrings across the board.
I just don't see the point in absolute exclusivity.
Seems clearly likely that the US military knows exactly what it is and doesn't want to talk about it. (Maybe it's high up enough that even the local commanders don't have a full picture) Considering how this country often goes apeshit over fake or small threats, hell hath no fury like the US facing an actual incident.:P
Outside of aircraft, Greyhound also makes a point of offering a package service. The couple times I've taken Greyhound, there's been plenty of space in the under-bus baggage compartments, so makes sense, since passenger baggage logically won't fill it all, all-the-time.
Do you figure non-RIAA music is better? Most anyone’s “better” is different. Fair enough, make the quality distinction that fits you without getting into label ideology. If the indie model really makes it better, let that influence quality and then make the quality distinction directly.
I say similar things about open-source.
P.S. – do you listen to really good classic popular music? That kind of stuff tends to be on the major labels just as surely as the modern mainstream stuff you’re likely decrying.
P.P.S – do you mean that non-RIAA musicians tend to focus more on the music itself, rather than nonmusic aspects? Steak versus sizzle is another hard to address “better” argument. I figure you need some of both, although I personally have developed a desire for a higher mix of ‘sizzle’ recently.
I once tried to argue to Mom that profiling made sense considering that most of the America-hating terrorists are Middle Easterners (even if most Middle Easterners are not America-hating terrorists)
Her response was long the lines that Osama or whoever would then find operatives who didn't look Middle Eastern. [Richard Reid II?]
[Not to mention non-Islamic terrorists a la McVeigh]
Another way to find a false sense of security, eh?
beat me to it; I figured there would be some comment about Slashdot groupthink (not 100% by any means, but very often a significant majority of people lean a certain way on here TBH)
That's also what my Chase card hit me with the one time I bought something form Canada. (They probably made some money on the exchange rate as well, but so does PayPal)
The brick and mortar branches' non-teller employees seem good at providing information; I haven't had any major problems to work through, and I don't want to rely on what I've overheard form bits of other peoples' conversations.
the local bank tellers aren't really like that (even though I'm a frequent visitor), but a counter guy at the local pizza shop - please be quite, I just want my slice. (I admit I fed into that by chatting with him in the past; have you pretty much ignored the tellers' small talk)
Haven't checked the CUs
I am tempted to agree that some of the 'who lives, who dies' decisions made during the financial mess seemed arbitrary
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Yeah, the hit big or miss big imbalance is an interesting challenge. Perhaps a less top-heavy industry would be a good idea.
I figure the changes in the industry allow more room for middle-class successes, which would smooth out out that curve, even though there will still be big winners and big losers.
Well that all is plausible as well.
Well, know exactly that it's at least USian
People often like doing things they're not particularly good at. :P
It's the businessmen who enable it, spread it far and wide.
And yes, there are some people out there who really honestly dislike The Beatles et al and really honestly like Britney et al (and some intersection between those two groups)
that is, evne if they like to do it, they still would take financial considerations into account to an extent.
As a practical matter the people that need to be involved (including the main artist) need to generate enough $ to make it livable, even if it's something they like to do.
I'd often reseed with better names and metadata rather than make a second copy or go through that procedure. (is that procedure even feasible on Windows XP?) Better organization for the next user of the torrent.
Sometimes it's uploader laziness (or a jumbled collection that they understandably don't want to organize), sometimes it's a tagging system you don't like, sometimes it's an uploader group engaged in the seemingly-juvenile practice of plastering their group's name all over the place. :)
It's analogous to open source - if you want to improve upon it, you have the practical/technical ability to do so.
I run uTorrent and have several dozen torrents in it; I use both TPB and DHT. Sometimes I get 'queued seed' or a red arrow. However, only at most a dozen or so torrents seem to be sending out data at any one time. (I tend to let old torrents continue to seed)
uTorrent lets you choose the destination directory when opening a torrent; I do select something appropriate to my usual organization schemes and thus end up seeding the files and using the files form the same place. My Documents\Downloads is just used as a sort of 'other'.
I do sometimes upload/reseed a torrent with the benefit of renamed and retagged files. (I can suffer minor problems in metadata without bothering with this). Sometimes I combine several downloads into a larger torrent, sometimes I make one torrent that breaks off pieces of a larger torrent.
Sometimes I don't feel the need to continue to seed a torrent that already has a bazillion other seeders (although I'll leave well enough alone); it's more important to maintain your own uploads or other torrents with only a few seeders. My upload bandwith sucks anyway.
Although the bandwagon effect is a valid concern, I think there may also be network effects at work, which are perfectly logical to accommodate. This doesn't improve the quality of the recordings themselves, but it can improve the quality of the overall experience including but not limited to the concerts, to have a larger fanbase involved.
Something cool about being part of smaller groups too - a preference, another option.
I'm reminded of outfits like Trade Mark Of Quality that got concert bootleg tapes pressed to vinyl. That particular company's domain was mainstream classic rock (they got some really good stuff in that genre) instead of hardcore punk, but seems like a similar idea
Yeah. Honestly, extreme punk and metal are amongst the few genres I can't listen to - got a wide array of other stuff, including good less-extreme punk/metal (The Clash, Iron Maiden, et cetera)
also, having the same thing available on multiple filesharing services increases content availability, period - some people know about or prefer one over another. For example, putting up a torrent version of content picked up from YouTube or MediaFire
In general, there can be value in the grunt work of building one large convenient collection.
Seems like it would be hard to find rare stuff whether in physical or Internet form. However, it seems the availability situation would improve once someone puts it in filesharing form. Mirroring the content's availability in another filesharing format is also helpful.
I have noticed that filesharing (and other Internet-related industry changes) can work as well for the majors as they do for indies, whether or not the majors have that through their thick skulls yet. Although majors dominance is decreased in this new environment, it's thus still present to an extent
And who are you to legislate taste? My stuff is better because it's less popular seems no better than 'my stuff is better because it's more popular'.
"Assume incompetence instead of malice" works too, I guess.
Interesting, though I've feared social trends encouraging increased girliness / decreased machismo, rather than chemical changes encouraging the same.
Slashdot has the absolute worst form of moderation, except for all others that have already been tried.
Exactly. Y'all may care (sarcasm noted), but I just don't feel the fury.
Cost for recordings is similar, but I'd agree that under-the-RIAA-radar concerts tend to be a lot cheaper.
I see the different types of concert experience as complementary rather than competitive, and I more see the small shows as extra-cheap than the large shows as extra-expensive. However, I'm not to magically like the cheaper stuff.
Frankly, enthusiasm for particular musicians has increased my enthusiasm for music in general, even wildly varying genres and business models, including loosening my pursestrings across the board.
I just don't see the point in absolute exclusivity.
Seems clearly likely that the US military knows exactly what it is and doesn't want to talk about it. (Maybe it's high up enough that even the local commanders don't have a full picture) :P
Considering how this country often goes apeshit over fake or small threats, hell hath no fury like the US facing an actual incident.
Outside of aircraft, Greyhound also makes a point of offering a package service.
The couple times I've taken Greyhound, there's been plenty of space in the under-bus baggage compartments, so makes sense, since passenger baggage logically won't fill it all, all-the-time.
Do you figure non-RIAA music is better? Most anyone’s “better” is different. Fair enough, make the quality distinction that fits you without getting into label ideology. If the indie model really makes it better, let that influence quality and then make the quality distinction directly.
I say similar things about open-source.
P.S. – do you listen to really good classic popular music? That kind of stuff tends to be on the major labels just as surely as the modern mainstream stuff you’re likely decrying.
P.P.S – do you mean that non-RIAA musicians tend to focus more on the music itself, rather than nonmusic aspects? Steak versus sizzle is another hard to address “better” argument. I figure you need some of both, although I personally have developed a desire for a higher mix of ‘sizzle’ recently.
I once tried to argue to Mom that profiling made sense considering that most of the America-hating terrorists are Middle Easterners (even if most Middle Easterners are not America-hating terrorists)
Her response was long the lines that Osama or whoever would then find operatives who didn't look Middle Eastern. [Richard Reid II?]
[Not to mention non-Islamic terrorists a la McVeigh]
Another way to find a false sense of security, eh?
beat me to it; I figured there would be some comment about Slashdot groupthink (not 100% by any means, but very often a significant majority of people lean a certain way on here TBH)
That's also what my Chase card hit me with the one time I bought something form Canada.
(They probably made some money on the exchange rate as well, but so does PayPal)
The brick and mortar branches' non-teller employees seem good at providing information; I haven't had any major problems to work through, and I don't want to rely on what I've overheard form bits of other peoples' conversations.
the local bank tellers aren't really like that (even though I'm a frequent visitor), but a counter guy at the local pizza shop - please be quite, I just want my slice. (I admit I fed into that by chatting with him in the past; have you pretty much ignored the tellers' small talk)
Haven't checked the CUs
I am tempted to agree that some of the 'who lives, who dies' decisions made during the financial mess seemed arbitrary