Nuclear power doesn't have a 'stigma', it has an intrinsic property of extreme toxicity to living things. nuclear power plants, large or small will _definitely_ fail occasionally. anyone who claims "the new designs are extra-super-safe" or related vomit are either youngsters, on the payroll, or both.
and the joke is that the EROEI is also mediocre---not a solution to the little problem of sustaining the 'non-negotiable American Lifestyle". Nukes are a boondoggle.
'some indications' could also be Panic-control. This meltdown is far from done. I'm thinking there's still a 50% chance that a 100km radius will be a dead-zone for generations to come.
you're right that the well-distributed toxic deaths that fossil-fuel plants have been causing are far greater. it's just like automobile deaths exceed airplane crash deaths by orders of magnitude but it's not 'news'. at some point the bad news becomes 'life'. you throw up your hands and say "you gotta die soemhow" rather than question the whole program. It's the old Sam Kinison joke; "hey, i don't want to drink and drive....but how else am i sposed to get my fucking CAR HOME???"...we're in that exact addiction-logic, Bush famously proclaimed that the "American lifestyle is not negotiable", at a climate summit! and the predictable results of such logic are coming to pass.
Solar and wind aren't ready cite...or this you must bite:
(wind)"The average EROI for all studies (operational and conceptual) is 25.2 (n=114; std. dev=22.3). The average EROI for just the operational studies is 19.8 (n=60; std. dev=13.7).
"The EROI for wind turbines compares favorably with other power generation systems (Figure 3). Baseload coal-fired power generation has an EROI between 5 and 10:1. Nuclear power is probably no greater than 5:1, although there is considerable debate regarding how to calculate its EROI. The EROI for hydropower probably exceed 10, but in most places in the world the most favorable sites have been developed." http://www.eoearth.org/article/Energy_return_on_investment_(EROI)_for_wind_energy
> that is some nasty reporting from someone who either has an agenda or who doesn't understand fuck-all.
heh, your reply smacks of an agenda and stuff too.
> Someone is trying to blow this story sky-high. Why do they not focus on where the actual deaths are?
what's with the spin-control? the poorly constructed sentence in the article is a laundry list of the recent suckages, not a devious attempt to hack at your precious nuke agenda. And since IF the goop does indeed escape containment and render a large densely populated area a dead-zone for generations to come, this is hence a valid story and as of now (tuesday AM in SF), way past 'alarmist'.
btw, i'm one who realizes that the economics of nuke-power are unstoppable, and that occasionally some will fail catastrophically, and that the costs will be externalized.
By subtracting an hour, in your head, from whatever the clock says, (during the Daylight Savings period), you can both mitigate the effect of numerical disconnect and improve your overall sharpness and focus due to the additional mental gymnastics.
Ham radios are like guns. Authoritarians don't really like regular people having them. So it's a good idea to have them even if you don't see any reason at this exact moment.
actually the point of this article is that it's a BOONDOGGLE, actually a double-boondoggle. Create another useless agency with 'first responders' in the title AND get to sell off some more public property to some cronies in the bargain. he'll be reelected.
Our founders said so, so it's more than a mundane fact, it's the best! The same founders who 'granted' voting rights to men with property, setup the electoral college, sanctioned slavery!...these founders were the wealthy privileged men jockeying for a government that might hold together in the face of the enlightenment; nominally 'democratic' while maintaining the status quo that feathered their nests. The only 'freedom' dear to their hearts was from the wealthy privileged men that were sucking _their_ blood, the English aristocracy. They were not against the concept of blood-sucking, per se, and they were absolutely _not_ selfless heroes fighting for anything but their own revenue stream. That fight is still ongoing and it woulda been over too if it weren't for those pesky kids.
to teach our children a better understanding of how our government is truly configured. Take the partisanship out of it and it's an accurate and important detail.
not that _our_ system isn't already covered in detail in the classroom, but why is _this_ such an important detail? it's been a while since I sat in the classroom, but I vividly remember discovering how thoroughly ignorant of politics I was when I hit college. This just sounds like more of the same partisan effort to keep kids ignorant of other political arrangements.
2) At no point does the article say anything about not liking the word "Democrat."
but it does quote the sponsor of the bill saying "in some states children are being indoctrinated in socialism via some curriculum."
which reveals a clear effort to establish a stronger firewall against the ideas that stem from the democratic POV. The meme that democrats=socialists is already well on its way to being considered a factual statement in the minds of the uneducated masses in the middle of the USA, and this is simply a further move to marginalize the entire concept of 'power derives from the people'.
Just more authoritarian/elitist/rascist rhetoric oozing out of the folds of Jabba the US's great underbelly.
Wrong!...in answer to the obvious question of why the Legislature feels it is necessary to stick their benevolent guiding fist into the school curriculum: "Senate floor sponsor Sen. Mark Madsen, R-Eagle Mountain, said in some states children are being indoctrinated in socialism via some curriculum."
IOW, this bill is yet more grandstanding troglodyte tea party propoganda.
and DAMN, you would think that the paucity of political philosophy being taught is schools is already sufficient to keep kids from learning evil ideas, but you would be wrong.
No matter what you are doing, there is always something more noble to be done, but we can't all be doing noble things.
sure we can, but then the world would become so incredibly fantastic and trouble-free that we would become hopelessly bored and increasingly unable to improve things in any noticeable way, leading to widespread chronic depression. Goofing off is essential for maintaining a healthy balance of SNAFU.
not taking anything away? that's pretty fucking funny. unless of course, you're Bradley, if you're Bradley, your chances of living just dropped by 90%.
You almost got there...Tunisia started this ball rolling and it has been widely accredited to the cables spelling out the corruption of Ben Ali. The corruption and oppression was obvious, but seeing it in black and white makes a difference.
I'd also suggest that the trove of documents make it clear in many places how little concern for justice, legality, the welfare of people and especially, how very little 'nobility' exists amongst the ruling class, (not just in the middle east). This erodes a lot of support from the fence sitters, willing to give their leaders the benefit of the doubt. Yes, they really totally ARE a mafioso running a protection racket.
there is little doubt he will be convicted if he has to stand trial
No, there is extreme doubt that he will be convicted. Sweden isn't a banana republic after all, just another boot-licking sycophant of the Empire. The goal is to cause as much difficulty as possible to Assange. I doubt the US will successfully extradite him either, but it will cost him plenty along the way...all of this is a lesson to him and others not to tread on Superman's cape.
being the devil's advocate, I wonder if you would consider there ever to be a case of treason which was justified by appealing to a law of universal human rights? Governments are capable of high crimes and treason may be the only way to stop it. Say, a general in Khadafi's army refusing the order to fire on its own citizens, or say, a soldier refusing to massacre civilians at Mai Lai. Or perhaps revealing the existence of a program of genocide by your Fuhrer, or perhaps numerous crimes against humanity being perpetrated by an army who illegally invaded and occupied a sovereign country, leading to the death of over one million souls and counting?
since their job is only to make lots of money, not use the corporation as some sort of moral flagpole, if it is not in the corporation's best interest to do something, it will not be done.
so one wonders where the profit is in this latest move. trying to sew up the ignorant redneck business? protecting lucrative govt. contracts? or did their true morals herniate in public here?
Attempting to undermine his defense is vigilantism. _IF_ Bradley Manning is guilty of treason, and considering he is being held without trial it is safe to assume the case is not made, then the law has ample means to extract the appropriate punishment. Paypal is not required by law to act in a just and fair manner, but they are (once again) in contempt of these most precious of societal values.
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Nuclear power doesn't have a 'stigma', it has an intrinsic property of extreme toxicity to living things. nuclear power plants, large or small will _definitely_ fail occasionally. anyone who claims "the new designs are extra-super-safe" or related vomit are either youngsters, on the payroll, or both.
and the joke is that the EROEI is also mediocre---not a solution to the little problem of sustaining the 'non-negotiable American Lifestyle". Nukes are a boondoggle.
'some indications' could also be Panic-control. This meltdown is far from done. I'm thinking there's still a 50% chance that a 100km radius will be a dead-zone for generations to come.
you're right that the well-distributed toxic deaths that fossil-fuel plants have been causing are far greater. it's just like automobile deaths exceed airplane crash deaths by orders of magnitude but it's not 'news'. at some point the bad news becomes 'life'. you throw up your hands and say "you gotta die soemhow" rather than question the whole program. It's the old Sam Kinison joke; "hey, i don't want to drink and drive....but how else am i sposed to get my fucking CAR HOME???"...we're in that exact addiction-logic, Bush famously proclaimed that the "American lifestyle is not negotiable", at a climate summit! and the predictable results of such logic are coming to pass.
i love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Sounds just like how Cheney and his Smirking Chimp used to sum it up; "The American Way of Life is Not Negotiable".
Solar and wind aren't ready
cite...or this you must bite:
(wind)"The average EROI for all studies (operational and conceptual) is 25.2 (n=114; std. dev=22.3). The average EROI for just the operational studies is 19.8 (n=60; std. dev=13.7).
"The EROI for wind turbines compares favorably with other power generation systems (Figure 3). Baseload coal-fired power generation has an EROI between 5 and 10:1. Nuclear power is probably no greater than 5:1, although there is considerable debate regarding how to calculate its EROI. The EROI for hydropower probably exceed 10, but in most places in the world the most favorable sites have been developed."
http://www.eoearth.org/article/Energy_return_on_investment_(EROI)_for_wind_energy
which means it totally is gonna blow. oh wait
> that is some nasty reporting from someone who either has an agenda or who doesn't understand fuck-all.
heh, your reply smacks of an agenda and stuff too.
> Someone is trying to blow this story sky-high. Why do they not focus on where the actual deaths are?
what's with the spin-control? the poorly constructed sentence in the article is a laundry list of the recent suckages, not a devious attempt to hack at your precious nuke agenda. And since IF the goop does indeed escape containment and render a large densely populated area a dead-zone for generations to come, this is hence a valid story and as of now (tuesday AM in SF), way past 'alarmist'.
btw, i'm one who realizes that the economics of nuke-power are unstoppable, and that occasionally some will fail catastrophically, and that the costs will be externalized.
By subtracting an hour, in your head, from whatever the clock says, (during the Daylight Savings period), you can both mitigate the effect of numerical disconnect and improve your overall sharpness and focus due to the additional mental gymnastics.
lived with the wemmings much?
or the women preferred men with un-calloused hands, or both
bingo
Ham radios are like guns. Authoritarians don't really like regular people having them. So it's a good idea to have them even if you don't see any reason at this exact moment.
who you calling _old_...
actually the point of this article is that it's a BOONDOGGLE, actually a double-boondoggle. Create another useless agency with 'first responders' in the title AND get to sell off some more public property to some cronies in the bargain. he'll be reelected.
Our founders said so, so it's more than a mundane fact, it's the best! The same founders who 'granted' voting rights to men with property, setup the electoral college, sanctioned slavery!...these founders were the wealthy privileged men jockeying for a government that might hold together in the face of the enlightenment; nominally 'democratic' while maintaining the status quo that feathered their nests. The only 'freedom' dear to their hearts was from the wealthy privileged men that were sucking _their_ blood, the English aristocracy. They were not against the concept of blood-sucking, per se, and they were absolutely _not_ selfless heroes fighting for anything but their own revenue stream.
That fight is still ongoing and it woulda been over too if it weren't for those pesky kids.
to teach our children a better understanding of how our government is truly configured. Take the partisanship out of it and it's an accurate and important detail.
not that _our_ system isn't already covered in detail in the classroom, but why is _this_ such an important detail? it's been a while since I sat in the classroom, but I vividly remember discovering how thoroughly ignorant of politics I was when I hit college. This just sounds like more of the same partisan effort to keep kids ignorant of other political arrangements.
2) At no point does the article say anything about not liking the word "Democrat."
but it does quote the sponsor of the bill saying "in some states children are being indoctrinated in socialism via some curriculum."
which reveals a clear effort to establish a stronger firewall against the ideas that stem from the democratic POV. The meme that democrats=socialists is already well on its way to being considered a factual statement in the minds of the uneducated masses in the middle of the USA, and this is simply a further move to marginalize the entire concept of 'power derives from the people'.
Just more authoritarian/elitist/rascist rhetoric oozing out of the folds of Jabba the US's great underbelly.
Wrong! ...in answer to the obvious question of why the Legislature feels it is necessary to stick their benevolent guiding fist into the school curriculum: "Senate floor sponsor Sen. Mark Madsen, R-Eagle Mountain, said in some states children are being indoctrinated in socialism via some curriculum."
IOW, this bill is yet more grandstanding troglodyte tea party propoganda.
and DAMN, you would think that the paucity of political philosophy being taught is schools is already sufficient to keep kids from learning evil ideas, but you would be wrong.
No matter what you are doing, there is always something more noble to be done, but we can't all be doing noble things.
sure we can, but then the world would become so incredibly fantastic and trouble-free that we would become hopelessly bored and increasingly unable to improve things in any noticeable way, leading to widespread chronic depression. Goofing off is essential for maintaining a healthy balance of SNAFU.
not taking anything away? that's pretty fucking funny. unless of course, you're Bradley, if you're Bradley, your chances of living just dropped by 90%.
You almost got there...Tunisia started this ball rolling and it has been widely accredited to the cables spelling out the corruption of Ben Ali. The corruption and oppression was obvious, but seeing it in black and white makes a difference.
I'd also suggest that the trove of documents make it clear in many places how little concern for justice, legality, the welfare of people and especially, how very little 'nobility' exists amongst the ruling class, (not just in the middle east). This erodes a lot of support from the fence sitters, willing to give their leaders the benefit of the doubt. Yes, they really totally ARE a mafioso running a protection racket.
there is little doubt he will be convicted if he has to stand trial
No, there is extreme doubt that he will be convicted. Sweden isn't a banana republic after all, just another boot-licking sycophant of the Empire. The goal is to cause as much difficulty as possible to Assange. I doubt the US will successfully extradite him either, but it will cost him plenty along the way...all of this is a lesson to him and others not to tread on Superman's cape.
being the devil's advocate, I wonder if you would consider there ever to be a case of treason which was justified by appealing to a law of universal human rights? Governments are capable of high crimes and treason may be the only way to stop it. Say, a general in Khadafi's army refusing the order to fire on its own citizens, or say, a soldier refusing to massacre civilians at Mai Lai. Or perhaps revealing the existence of a program of genocide by your Fuhrer, or perhaps numerous crimes against humanity being perpetrated by an army who illegally invaded and occupied a sovereign country, leading to the death of over one million souls and counting?
since their job is only to make lots of money, not use the corporation as some sort of moral flagpole, if it is not in the corporation's best interest to do something, it will not be done.
so one wonders where the profit is in this latest move. trying to sew up the ignorant redneck business? protecting lucrative govt. contracts? or did their true morals herniate in public here?
Attempting to undermine his defense is vigilantism. _IF_ Bradley Manning is guilty of treason, and considering he is being held without trial it is safe to assume the case is not made, then the law has ample means to extract the appropriate punishment. Paypal is not required by law to act in a just and fair manner, but they are (once again) in contempt of these most precious of societal values.
so why the fuck am I supposed to feel bad that this guy is getting exactly the punishment that he knew he would get?
oh i don't know, does "due process" feel like something you could feel good about?
look man, you can do this, no need to be coy Roy, life is too short, just drop off the keys...