those who believe they have a right to give away their IP
By "their" do you mean "my" IP or "your" IP? You will always have a right to give away your IP. The GPL does a wonderful job of helping you give your IP to lots of people and still retain some control over it. Isn't that neat?
If you mean "my" IP, then fuck off.
But I suspect that what you really mean is Microsoft's IP. Or Disney's IP. Or whoever has intellectual property that you want and "they" don't deserve. That poem I wrote my wife isn't going to do you much good, is it? But why should [big greedy corporation] be allowed to control the free and natural flow of information? Information wants to be free! Free my information!
The scariest thing about this rambling, xenophobic post is that it is written in first person plural. Is there someone sitting on this guy's lap as he types? We must know!
Thanks for the link. An interesting debate, but if/.ers would actually take the time to read (hahahahaha) the full patent, they would see it's not that big a deal. It's a very specific process and not a broad (let's patent swap space) patent.
I think Yahoo has tried to scale the dynamically generated, customizable web page beyond it's current boundaries, and that is why a patent was filed. Better mousetrap, old mouse.
I'm not saying this will hold up in court, but it deserves more of a look than "bomb the patent office!"
If Transmeta is a fabless chip manufacturer, then this will just be an announcement of what they plan to build. Not that I'm accusing them of vaprware, but early chip announcements tend to be more like bad sci-fi than actual news. Think of Intel and their gHz processor - cooled by a desk sized freezer beneath the unit.
Either way, it will be more interesting than the Lucent (might not be a) router announcement.
This is a good point. I still use NewsWatcher. I disable this alert, but its a good way of encouraging (not enforcing) netiquette.
The challenge with OE and the Active X security hole, does not fall into the netiquette category. It's a poor security model implemented by a company that has more than it's share of enemies. Microsoft, of all corporations, should be sensitive to what people will do when they find security holes. They take internal security seriously. Look at the fact that their webservers have only been cracked once. They understand that script kiddies would love to see their name in lights. The same approach should be taken to the security model of their software.
I won't try to hide my right wing tendencies, but I honestly wasn't trying to pick on any one party. Al Gore is this nation's political Alpha Geek, and that is exactly my point. If Al can't get a clue, what about Strom "Bevis and Bunghole" Thurmond or Jesse Helms.
Politicians only know what lobbyists tell them. I have one vote and no lobbyist. The companies who stand to lose the most will make sure they have the most lobbyists.
The Internet is still the wild west, but - if I may mix metaphors - no one is warning the consumer that it is "surfer beware".
I wonder if, like the meat industry, we aren't really motivated by short term profit at any cost? Our privacy, our dignity as humans, anything for money.
There is, of course, nothing wrong with a profit motive, but I think this last statement is a bit cynical.
Most libertarian netizens have valid fears of government regulation. The Internet has done just fine without Congress passing any laws. The government often functions as a third party with interests and agendas separate from either the consumer or provider. Government regulation isn't always rational laws from a disinterested party, sometimes it is motiviated by greed and profit.
In addition, with men like Al Gore still holding elected office, many people doubt that governments can understand the basic issues (technical and otherwise) required for passing reasonable laws.
To use your analogy, the Internet is not meat packing, if it were, Bill Clinton would have all the answers. Still, innocent users are being misled. Some kind of protection is needed and the private sector is doing a miserable job of filling that role.
There's nothing wrong with a certification that simply states that a company has a privacy policy, and that they adhere to their privacy policy. Many companies have clear privacy policies which can be understood by any intelligent reader. Apple's privacy policy isn't great, but it's clear and understandable, and it's linked from their home page. TRUSTe, if they were at all interested in privacy, could audit these statements for clarity, push for changes toward an ideal policy, and revoke status if the policy is violated.
TRUSTe is not interested in privacy, but that doesn't mean that we should give in to regulation. The government will just be a bigger version of TRUSTe. The membership fees ( bribes | contributions ) will be stiffer, and the process more byzantine and slow, but the end result will be the same.
Does this mean the end of the GPL? Does this mean that I can mirror Slashdot, but without those pesky ads?
IP isn't forfeited in theory or in actuality just because someone has a copy of it. I can hold a Coke can in my hand, but I could be sued if I made my own Coke can. I can copy a DVD and distribute it to my friends, but I could be sued (or put in jail) for theft of intellectual property.
You're unable to conceive of something as property unless you can hold it in your hand, or sit on it.
How do you think our "culture" will adapt to the realization that trademarks, patents, copyrights, are all smoke and mirrors? Who will write novels or create cheesy sci-fi props if there is no intellectual property?
The only two relevant passages in the above tripe:
Due to a loophole in the way things work
and
IANAL or even someone with basic understanding of the Constitution.
You do not have a right to post to Yahoo. You may set up your own server and post anything you want to it. You do not have a right to connect this server to the Internet. If connected, there are no Constitutional guarantees that ISPs will exchange packets with you.
This link obviously points to a working Notes database. Do you manage any Domino servers? If so, would you keep them as is, move them off Domino, or move them to Domino on Linux?
This is probably the link he was talking about. It is definitely a Lotus Domino link to Notes database. The.nsf is all Domino and the funky url stuff afterward is all Domino as well.
I once read a Piers Anthony book. I even "got" the Xanth pun... and I still enjoyed it. I was only a teenager at the time, but I've never told anyone about it until now. I'm ashamed, but it's all behind me now.
Soon after finishing the book, I went on to more constructive activities, like chronic masturbation.
If the deault is "Yes. Please allow RealNetworks to provide me with updated, useful information by monitoring my every move while connected to the Internet." and the cancel choice is "No. I would like to continue to live in a dark age of information technology by hording my personal infrormation and habits." the choice is still there for the user.
If the choice is never offered or hidden in a dialog box the user never sees, then that is another matter.
those who believe they have a right to give away their IP
By "their" do you mean "my" IP or "your" IP? You will always have a right to give away your IP. The GPL does a wonderful job of helping you give your IP to lots of people and still retain some control over it. Isn't that neat?
If you mean "my" IP, then fuck off.
But I suspect that what you really mean is Microsoft's IP. Or Disney's IP. Or whoever has intellectual property that you want and "they" don't deserve. That poem I wrote my wife isn't going to do you much good, is it? But why should [big greedy corporation] be allowed to control the free and natural flow of information? Information wants to be free! Free my information!
I have no reason to doubt the quality of RMS' research
What "research" went into the GNU Manifesto? What "research" went into the statement about piracy?
None. It's an opinion. A reasonably well-argued opinion at times, but not one supported by research.
This is why we want John McCain to win
The scariest thing about this rambling, xenophobic post is that it is written in first person plural. Is there someone sitting on this guy's lap as he types? We must know!
Just wipe the slate clean.
Let's start with Anonymous Cowards.
Thanks for the insight, Ted.
Thanks for the link. An interesting debate, but if /.ers would actually take the time to read (hahahahaha) the full patent, they would see it's not that big a deal. It's a very specific process and not a broad (let's patent swap space) patent.
I think Yahoo has tried to scale the dynamically generated, customizable web page beyond it's current boundaries, and that is why a patent was filed. Better mousetrap, old mouse.
I'm not saying this will hold up in court, but it deserves more of a look than "bomb the patent office!"
I knew this would happen. A reasoned discussion begins to divagate and the next thing you know, divagation is everywhere.
I sickens me, but I digress.
If Transmeta is a fabless chip manufacturer, then this will just be an announcement of what they plan to build. Not that I'm accusing them of vaprware, but early chip announcements tend to be more like bad sci-fi than actual news. Think of Intel and their gHz processor - cooled by a desk sized freezer beneath the unit.
Either way, it will be more interesting than the Lucent (might not be a) router announcement.
This is a good point. I still use NewsWatcher. I disable this alert, but its a good way of encouraging (not enforcing) netiquette.
The challenge with OE and the Active X security hole, does not fall into the netiquette category. It's a poor security model implemented by a company that has more than it's share of enemies. Microsoft, of all corporations, should be sensitive to what people will do when they find security holes. They take internal security seriously. Look at the fact that their webservers have only been cracked once. They understand that script kiddies would love to see their name in lights. The same approach should be taken to the security model of their software.
Any excuse to bash Democrats, Thrush?
Not my real name, BTW.
I won't try to hide my right wing tendencies, but I honestly wasn't trying to pick on any one party. Al Gore is this nation's political Alpha Geek, and that is exactly my point. If Al can't get a clue, what about Strom "Bevis and Bunghole" Thurmond or Jesse Helms.
Politicians only know what lobbyists tell them. I have one vote and no lobbyist. The companies who stand to lose the most will make sure they have the most lobbyists.
The Internet is still the wild west, but - if I may mix metaphors - no one is warning the consumer that it is "surfer beware".
I think netscape has officially hit the crack pot. 4.7 128 bit for linux is showing all the colors funny. check it out here
/., but this is fugly. Please try again.
No, I think this is just the new color to let you know that you are in the YRO section.
Nice try,
I wonder if, like the meat industry, we aren't really motivated by short term profit at any cost? Our privacy, our dignity as humans, anything for money.
There is, of course, nothing wrong with a profit motive, but I think this last statement is a bit cynical.
Most libertarian netizens have valid fears of government regulation. The Internet has done just fine without Congress passing any laws. The government often functions as a third party with interests and agendas separate from either the consumer or provider. Government regulation isn't always rational laws from a disinterested party, sometimes it is motiviated by greed and profit.
In addition, with men like Al Gore still holding elected office, many people doubt that governments can understand the basic issues (technical and otherwise) required for passing reasonable laws.
To use your analogy, the Internet is not meat packing, if it were, Bill Clinton would have all the answers. Still, innocent users are being misled. Some kind of protection is needed and the private sector is doing a miserable job of filling that role.
Please don't post whining complaints when you could be out searching for an actual link -*gasp*- all by yourself.
There's nothing wrong with a certification that simply states that a company has a privacy policy, and that they adhere to their privacy policy. Many companies have clear privacy policies which can be understood by any intelligent reader. Apple's privacy policy isn't great, but it's clear and understandable, and it's linked from their home page. TRUSTe, if they were at all interested in privacy, could audit these statements for clarity, push for changes toward an ideal policy, and revoke status if the policy is violated.
TRUSTe is not interested in privacy, but that doesn't mean that we should give in to regulation. The government will just be a bigger version of TRUSTe. The membership fees ( bribes | contributions ) will be stiffer, and the process more byzantine and slow, but the end result will be the same.
they killed off all non windows clients with r5
Wrong. The MacOS client is alive. It even supports the Admin and Designer portions.
Does this mean the end of the GPL? Does this mean that I can mirror Slashdot, but without those pesky ads?
IP isn't forfeited in theory or in actuality just because someone has a copy of it. I can hold a Coke can in my hand, but I could be sued if I made my own Coke can. I can copy a DVD and distribute it to my friends, but I could be sued (or put in jail) for theft of intellectual property.
You're unable to conceive of something as property unless you can hold it in your hand, or sit on it.
How do you think our "culture" will adapt to the realization that trademarks, patents, copyrights, are all smoke and mirrors? Who will write novels or create cheesy sci-fi props if there is no intellectual property?
The only two relevant passages in the above tripe:
Due to a loophole in the way things work
and
IANAL or even someone with basic understanding of the Constitution.
You do not have a right to post to Yahoo. You may set up your own server and post anything you want to it. You do not have a right to connect this server to the Internet. If connected, there are no Constitutional guarantees that ISPs will exchange packets with you.
Q: If Perl's so hot, why hasn't it been ported to the PalmOS?
A: Because it's a resource hog.
This link obviously points to a working Notes database. Do you manage any Domino servers? If so, would you keep them as is, move them off Domino, or move them to Domino on Linux?
http://www.nds.coi.gov.uk/coi/coipress.nsf/9ddbc45 f95 8c5511802565f40075e4d6/93d402f4841af310802565a9005 a73a2?OpenDocument
.nsf is all Domino and the funky url stuff afterward is all Domino as well.
This is probably the link he was talking about. It is definitely a Lotus Domino link to Notes database. The
It's broken
I once read a Piers Anthony book. I even "got" the Xanth pun... and I still enjoyed it. I was only a teenager at the time, but I've never told anyone about it until now. I'm ashamed, but it's all behind me now.
Soon after finishing the book, I went on to more constructive activities, like chronic masturbation.
Why does the default setting matter?
If the deault is "Yes. Please allow RealNetworks to provide me with updated, useful information by monitoring my every move while connected to the Internet." and the cancel choice is "No. I would like to continue to live in a dark age of information technology by hording my personal infrormation and habits." the choice is still there for the user.
If the choice is never offered or hidden in a dialog box the user never sees, then that is another matter.
Thanks, Matt. This game rules. I remember wasting days on this crap on a DOS machine. It's nice to be able to waste away billable hours anywhere I go.
My strategy, buy Coke. Can you ever go wrong?
Offer them a copy of YOUR book "Blowing Me For Dummies"
Now retitled as "Blowing Me For People So Stupid They Could Be Lawyers At IDG"
/. has a focus?
I thought we got rid of that years ago.
focus!
hocus focus
Just two quick examples of Rob reeling it in from this category alone.
/. needs focus like I need a real job.
...for the GREEN trash bage to be effective. Many a scorpion have died because of this oversight. Careful out there, kids!
The General's oversight in this matter is disturbing.