Yes, that's like 12 kWh per week! Why, at 10c/kWh, that would be almost $5 per month.
And most cheap ass computers come with power supplies at 300W peak, but the average draw is closer to 100W. For an average small LCD panel it's around 50-100W. So you're looking at 150-200W of draw, not 300W. That's if they're not using a laptop, which would be probably around 20W.
But that's beside the point, because even if your employees are working from home, you still need to be running your servers. Having remote workers does save on travel time and gas usage though.
I was waiting for the paranoid numerology conspiracy theory that never materialized. Come on, there's a lot of numbers there, particularly suspicious ones like 13 and 6! How can we link this into Satan, the CIA, reptoids, and the Mayan calendar?
So if anybody tells you that we have to "save the planet" from carbon dioxide, ask them why the planet wasn't destroyed when the carbon dioxide levels were much higher than now.
Oh, the planet will still be here, and it'll still have life. The question is whether we'll still be in that second category.
Nice straw man. We all know that CO2 levels were much higher hundreds of millions of years ago than they are today. Also, the Earth was much hotter and wetter than it is today. And the continents were all in different places. And they were roamed by fucking dinosaurs and mosquitoes the size of your fist. And mammals were about the size of opossums or smaller.
Do you think it would be an EASY transition to go back to a world with that kind of climate?
How many people would starve because their crops can't grow in the new environment?
How many people would die of malaria and other insect-borne diseases?
How many different types of plants, animals, and fish would die because they're adapted to this environment, not to the Jurassic Period?
The Earth of 100 million years ago is a totally alien world from the one we know, and we'd be hard-pressed to survive on it.
Guess that depends on if you agree with John Deigh in Robert Audi (ed), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, 1995.
I myself would have a hard time imagining what "utilitarian morality" would be. While "utilitarian ethics" is quite clear.
And somehow I have a hard time imagining even the most hard-core Moral Majority right-winger calling, say, masturbation "unethical."
The term "unethical" has a connotation of having a negative impact on another person or a community. While the term "immoral" has no such connotation--something you do in your own bedroom that affects absolutely no one else can certainly be considered "immoral" depending on your belief system.
I dunno, call me a descriptivist instead of a prescriptivist. But language is how people use it, not the Greek or Latin root word it came from.
No, that's legislating ethics and enforcing the social contract. There's a difference between ethics and morality--that being that ethics is related to relationships between people or between a person and a community, while morality can be (and usually is meant as) personal and private.
Cassini-Huygens is orbiting Saturn right now. New Horizons said hi to it last month when it passed Saturn orbit. It's now on its way towards Pluto. But then, it's still just following in the footsteps of its brother Voyager 2, which visited all four gas giants in our solar system and is now putting around in interstellar space.
Actually, I'm pretty sure "grammar" doesn't even come into it when someone is using the phrases "EPIC FAIL," "FTW," and "fanboy." And especially "lulz."
I simply hate the new laws in my country (under the banner of fighting money laundering â" even when the head of the police is a known mobster and fckall is done). Why should the bank give the government my municipal bill each 6 months? Why should my banker tell the government where I live? Why should the bank give all the details of my account to the government if I make a deposit or withdrawal of more than R10,000 ($1000)? Why must a bank and the government have the ability to freeze my bank account indefinitely for no good reason (without any charge or complaint)? That last situation happened to me and it fucked me over good. I had to borrow money because the bank decided to freeze my account without informing me (they did it twice).
They shouldn't be able to arbitrarily do it. That's what due process is for; probable cause, followed by a subpoena or search warrant, followed by charges filed and a trial held. Without that due process, financial documents are considered to be confidential, at least here in the US. I'm not sure how they handle it in South Africa, but if your account was arbitrarily frozen with no charges being filed, that is certainly wrong.
You can't be using Japan as a positive economic example, can you? Their economy has just barely begun recovering from two decades of crippling stagnation.
Real wealth in an economy follows exponential growth. Gold, like any mined natural resource, follows a Hubbert curve--and, historically, it's been a very shallow curve, trending nearly linear for the past century.
The amount of gold mined per year increased about 600% between 1900 and 2000, while the US's real GDP increased about 2625%. For gold, that's an average annual growth rate of 1.8%, while for GDP that's 3.3%--in other words, following the gold standard for the past century, we'd have a currency deflating by 1.5% every year. That's scarcely better than the average annual 2.9% inflation we've seen over the same period.
The best idea isn't to abandon the idea of fiat currency, which is much better able to maintain liquidity in a growing economy, but rather to use sane monetary policy that manages money supply to increase at approximately the same rate of growth as the economy and thus avoids as much inflation and deflation as possible.
I see now that you weren't trying to implicate fiat currency for the problem, but just saying that it's allowed the problem to be worse than it otherwise would have been, I misread your post originally.
So don't get me wrong, you're totally right about credit and fractional lending. The financial sector is largely to blame for our current implosion, alongside the recent few generations of Americans who have financed themselves into a lifetime of unpayable debt.
And $5 a month plus $250 every year or two to support the "latest software" that "You're already paying for" is even more.
The company claims that their system will last ten years, and I was going on the (probably generous) assumption that that's an honest claim. It is at least plausible, since the system is designed to be little more than a thin client for server-side applications, which (depending on the app) offloads a lot of the computation work onto the server. Hell, if all you're running is Firefox and all you have to do is make sure AJAX applications are relatively snappy, you don't need particularly hefty hardware.
In this case, the business model will probably be based on cheap and durable hardware (as promised) but a costly subscription model. But IANABusinessAnalyst.
You must be new to subscription-based services. Charging $5 a month in perpetuity for subscription access to a software tool that lives server-side is a lot more money than charging $50 one-shot for software that you install on your own hard drive. It's especially a lot more money than the $0 they'd get when (not if) you pirate it.
That's if you define "cloud" to be "distributed systems." I think that's a better definition, but they're going with the marketroid definition of "it runs Web applications and uses network storage--and those applications and storage live In The Cloud!"
I'd imagine most of the "upgrades" to your computer-using experience are going to be on the server-side, since the computer itself is basically a thin client.
You have choice. You can use the Euro, the Yen, gold florins, or the damn barter system as long as you're not laundering money or evading taxes (or helping other people to launder money or evade taxes).
How do you think Paypal works? Why do you think Paypal hasn't been shut down?
Mmm, very good job welcoming a new member to your community. Immediate accusation of sock-puppetry.
And anyway, this account is eight days old. I think you're giving me too much credit, if you think I'm sock-puppeting. I don't plan that far ahead.
I'd agree with you there. It's become way too fashionable for us all to throw the TERRIST tag at groups that we don't like.
Terrorism, abstracted: the use of violence or threat of violence against individuals within a larger group, with the purpose of intimidating the larger group to alter their behavior in a way that achieves the ideological goals of the terrorist.
The RIAA's done some of that (they target individuals intending to intimidate the group into buying into the status-quo business model), but they don't do it violently or in any way designed to cause actual physical harm.
I don't think grandparent was calling the RIAA terrorists, but rather was mocking a recent claim from the content-mongers that "piracy helps the terrorists."
Fair enough, though flash random-write latency has been improving drastically in recent years. Latest stuff in development from Intel and Micron supposedly has a random write latency of 1.5ms (at least, that's what they list for typical 'erase performance' which ought to mean doing a full write of an erase block). Let's just hope it isn't ridiculously expensive when it comes out.
The flash in the SSD is as fast as DRAM cache on a magnetic disk? Go on, pull the other one. Not as fast, but roughly the same performance profile--most importantly the extremely fast access time. When you've already cut the random access time down to 0.4 ms by using flash, as in TFA, you don't get a whole lot of benefit adding a few megs of DRAM cache to trim another few microseconds off the average seek. Magnetic disks need the cache to improve their dismal average access time, SSDs simply don't.
SSD drives don't require a cache, because the entire drive is cache. The 32GB of the SSD has roughly the same performance profile as the 16MB cache on a magnetic drive.
Disable cache on a magnetic drive, and the tests from TFA would produce the same results--since they're measuring raw read/write throughput and random-access seek time.
The really important test would be checking the seek time on one frequently-used area of disk. You'd see an improvement in the average seek time when the drive's caching is enabled, as compared to having no cache.
The ironic thing is, this is the most important test in real-world performance, because caching speeds up the average seek time for frequently-accessed virtual memory pages.
Write speed may be irrelevant to the applications you happen to run. But it's pretty relevant to your OS. Ironically enough, seek time is much more relevant to virtual memory paging performance than linear read/write throughput. Which is why your computer gets a not-too-modest speedup using a flash drive for virtual memory.
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Yes, that's like 12 kWh per week! Why, at 10c/kWh, that would be almost $5 per month.
And most cheap ass computers come with power supplies at 300W peak, but the average draw is closer to 100W. For an average small LCD panel it's around 50-100W. So you're looking at 150-200W of draw, not 300W. That's if they're not using a laptop, which would be probably around 20W.
But that's beside the point, because even if your employees are working from home, you still need to be running your servers. Having remote workers does save on travel time and gas usage though.
I was waiting for the paranoid numerology conspiracy theory that never materialized. Come on, there's a lot of numbers there, particularly suspicious ones like 13 and 6! How can we link this into Satan, the CIA, reptoids, and the Mayan calendar?
So if anybody tells you that we have to "save the planet" from carbon dioxide, ask them why the planet wasn't destroyed when the carbon dioxide levels were much higher than now.
Oh, the planet will still be here, and it'll still have life. The question is whether we'll still be in that second category.
Nice straw man. We all know that CO2 levels were much higher hundreds of millions of years ago than they are today. Also, the Earth was much hotter and wetter than it is today. And the continents were all in different places. And they were roamed by fucking dinosaurs and mosquitoes the size of your fist. And mammals were about the size of opossums or smaller. Do you think it would be an EASY transition to go back to a world with that kind of climate? How many people would starve because their crops can't grow in the new environment? How many people would die of malaria and other insect-borne diseases? How many different types of plants, animals, and fish would die because they're adapted to this environment, not to the Jurassic Period? The Earth of 100 million years ago is a totally alien world from the one we know, and we'd be hard-pressed to survive on it.
Guess that depends on if you agree with John Deigh in Robert Audi (ed), The Cambridge Dictionary of Philosophy, 1995.
I myself would have a hard time imagining what "utilitarian morality" would be. While "utilitarian ethics" is quite clear.
And somehow I have a hard time imagining even the most hard-core Moral Majority right-winger calling, say, masturbation "unethical."
The term "unethical" has a connotation of having a negative impact on another person or a community. While the term "immoral" has no such connotation--something you do in your own bedroom that affects absolutely no one else can certainly be considered "immoral" depending on your belief system.
I dunno, call me a descriptivist instead of a prescriptivist. But language is how people use it, not the Greek or Latin root word it came from.
No, that's legislating ethics and enforcing the social contract. There's a difference between ethics and morality--that being that ethics is related to relationships between people or between a person and a community, while morality can be (and usually is meant as) personal and private.
Cassini-Huygens is orbiting Saturn right now. New Horizons said hi to it last month when it passed Saturn orbit. It's now on its way towards Pluto. But then, it's still just following in the footsteps of its brother Voyager 2, which visited all four gas giants in our solar system and is now putting around in interstellar space.
So the answer to your question is no.
Actually, I'm pretty sure "grammar" doesn't even come into it when someone is using the phrases "EPIC FAIL," "FTW," and "fanboy." And especially "lulz."
I simply hate the new laws in my country (under the banner of fighting money laundering â" even when the head of the police is a known mobster and fckall is done). Why should the bank give the government my municipal bill each 6 months? Why should my banker tell the government where I live? Why should the bank give all the details of my account to the government if I make a deposit or withdrawal of more than R10,000 ($1000)? Why must a bank and the government have the ability to freeze my bank account indefinitely for no good reason (without any charge or complaint)? That last situation happened to me and it fucked me over good. I had to borrow money because the bank decided to freeze my account without informing me (they did it twice).
They shouldn't be able to arbitrarily do it. That's what due process is for; probable cause, followed by a subpoena or search warrant, followed by charges filed and a trial held. Without that due process, financial documents are considered to be confidential, at least here in the US. I'm not sure how they handle it in South Africa, but if your account was arbitrarily frozen with no charges being filed, that is certainly wrong.
You can't be using Japan as a positive economic example, can you? Their economy has just barely begun recovering from two decades of crippling stagnation.
Real wealth in an economy follows exponential growth. Gold, like any mined natural resource, follows a Hubbert curve--and, historically, it's been a very shallow curve, trending nearly linear for the past century.
The amount of gold mined per year increased about 600% between 1900 and 2000, while the US's real GDP increased about 2625%. For gold, that's an average annual growth rate of 1.8%, while for GDP that's 3.3%--in other words, following the gold standard for the past century, we'd have a currency deflating by 1.5% every year. That's scarcely better than the average annual 2.9% inflation we've seen over the same period.
The best idea isn't to abandon the idea of fiat currency, which is much better able to maintain liquidity in a growing economy, but rather to use sane monetary policy that manages money supply to increase at approximately the same rate of growth as the economy and thus avoids as much inflation and deflation as possible.
I see now that you weren't trying to implicate fiat currency for the problem, but just saying that it's allowed the problem to be worse than it otherwise would have been, I misread your post originally.
So don't get me wrong, you're totally right about credit and fractional lending. The financial sector is largely to blame for our current implosion, alongside the recent few generations of Americans who have financed themselves into a lifetime of unpayable debt.
And $5 a month plus $250 every year or two to support the "latest software" that "You're already paying for" is even more.
The company claims that their system will last ten years, and I was going on the (probably generous) assumption that that's an honest claim. It is at least plausible, since the system is designed to be little more than a thin client for server-side applications, which (depending on the app) offloads a lot of the computation work onto the server. Hell, if all you're running is Firefox and all you have to do is make sure AJAX applications are relatively snappy, you don't need particularly hefty hardware.
In this case, the business model will probably be based on cheap and durable hardware (as promised) but a costly subscription model. But IANABusinessAnalyst.
You must be new to subscription-based services. Charging $5 a month in perpetuity for subscription access to a software tool that lives server-side is a lot more money than charging $50 one-shot for software that you install on your own hard drive. It's especially a lot more money than the $0 they'd get when (not if) you pirate it.
That's if you define "cloud" to be "distributed systems." I think that's a better definition, but they're going with the marketroid definition of "it runs Web applications and uses network storage--and those applications and storage live In The Cloud!"
This isn't meant to be part of a cluster, it's meant to be a low-cost, low-power thin client for desktop productivity and multimedia apps.
I'd imagine most of the "upgrades" to your computer-using experience are going to be on the server-side, since the computer itself is basically a thin client.
I'm sorry to do this, but it's "for all intents and purposes." Unless that was ironically intentional, in which case, carry on.
Gold on the other hand is naturally scarce and so forces catastrophic deflation in a growing economy whereas paper is not, and does not.
Fixed it for you.
You have choice. You can use the Euro, the Yen, gold florins, or the damn barter system as long as you're not laundering money or evading taxes (or helping other people to launder money or evade taxes). How do you think Paypal works? Why do you think Paypal hasn't been shut down?
Mmm, very good job welcoming a new member to your community. Immediate accusation of sock-puppetry. And anyway, this account is eight days old. I think you're giving me too much credit, if you think I'm sock-puppeting. I don't plan that far ahead.
I'd agree with you there. It's become way too fashionable for us all to throw the TERRIST tag at groups that we don't like. Terrorism, abstracted: the use of violence or threat of violence against individuals within a larger group, with the purpose of intimidating the larger group to alter their behavior in a way that achieves the ideological goals of the terrorist. The RIAA's done some of that (they target individuals intending to intimidate the group into buying into the status-quo business model), but they don't do it violently or in any way designed to cause actual physical harm.
I don't think grandparent was calling the RIAA terrorists, but rather was mocking a recent claim from the content-mongers that "piracy helps the terrorists."
Fair enough, though flash random-write latency has been improving drastically in recent years. Latest stuff in development from Intel and Micron supposedly has a random write latency of 1.5ms (at least, that's what they list for typical 'erase performance' which ought to mean doing a full write of an erase block). Let's just hope it isn't ridiculously expensive when it comes out.
SSD drives don't require a cache, because the entire drive is cache. The 32GB of the SSD has roughly the same performance profile as the 16MB cache on a magnetic drive. Disable cache on a magnetic drive, and the tests from TFA would produce the same results--since they're measuring raw read/write throughput and random-access seek time. The really important test would be checking the seek time on one frequently-used area of disk. You'd see an improvement in the average seek time when the drive's caching is enabled, as compared to having no cache. The ironic thing is, this is the most important test in real-world performance, because caching speeds up the average seek time for frequently-accessed virtual memory pages.