Ubuntu 9 Is Jaunty Jackalope, Coming Next April

mr_3ntropy writes "Ars is reporting Mark Shuttleworth announced today that Ubuntu 9.04 will be called Jaunty Jackalope, to be released next April. It will focus on improving boot times and the convergence of desktop and web. The 8.10 release, Intrepid Ibex, is coming next month with GNOME 2.24 and will include better support for subnotebooks."

Comments

Why is this important?

[yohanes]

It's just a name.

Re:Why is this important?

[Shadow_139]

Then way is "Ubuntu Satanic edition" Banned from Distrowatch?
http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/

Re:Why is this important?

[martinw89]

Because Ubuntu Christian Edition damned them off Distrowatch?

Re:Why is this important?

[SatanicPuppy]

Trademark violation.

Re:Why is this important?

[Tubal-Cain]

Where you banned for violating Puppy Linux's trademark?

Re:Why is this important?

[poetmatt]

wow, read up on that one. Quite interesting. I'd love to see this go main page and see distrowatch get some heat for it.

Re:Why is this important?

[SatanicPuppy]

Bah, I've got a good 10 years on 'em.

Re:Why is this important?

[retchdog]

"Where" you dropped on your head repeatedly as an infant?

Re:Why is this important?

[mollymoo]

If all you read is the headline then yes, that's all the information you'll get.

Re:Why is this important?

[Seraphim_72]

Because the name is juvenile flamebait? The creator of the distro isn't a Satanist, and neither are the posters on his board. The only reason to name it thusly is to irritate a group of people pointlessly. Yeah, yeah Freedom of Speach, yada yada. It doesn't mean that Distro Watch has to give a crap about your distro either.

Re:Why is this important?

[Yfrwlf]

Right, just because you have the freedom to speak your ideas doesn't mean everyone has to listen to them, and while there are disturbing/mean things in both Christian and Muslim religions, there's really nothing nice about Satan, which was the original point of his invention I'm sure, and that's enough of a reason for a site to want to ignore such a distro.

Besides, packaging some GDM themes, desktop themes, and wallpaper and calling it a distro is pretty lame since anyone can easily install themes anyway, not that having the theme you want being default isn't a nice touch, if a small one.

Re:Why is this important?

[fahrbot-bot]

Yeah, yeah Freedom of Speach, yada yada.

Freedom of Speech only applies with respect to the Government, not private entities.
From: First Amendment

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.

Re:Why is this important?

[Joe Snipe]

Because the name is juvenile flamebait? The creator of the distro isn't a Satanist, and neither are the posters on his board. The only reason to name it thusly is to irritate a group of people pointlessly

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that the whole point of satanism? I was under the impression that satanism (as told by Anton LaVey)was the father of flamebait, something to do with getting your message heard through scandal and gossip? That the group doesn't necessarily follow satanism doesn't make the goal any less satanic; I know plenty of people associated with other religons that don't follow said religon, hell (no pun intended) most people aren't aware of anything beyond the basic tenants of their faith (at least with regard to said faith). I don't know about this banning or why it happened, but if it's because of what you suggest the argument seems pretty weak.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think the system would get more serious attention as a replacement for Windows if it had a more serious NAME for a start.

Re:Why is this important?

[grayn0de]

Then way is "Ubuntu Satanic edition" Banned from Distrowatch? http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/

... because they didn't name it Saucy Satan, Satanic Sloth, Slutty Salamander or any other fitting name, maybe?

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

You're right, it is juvenile flamebait. The problem is that Distrowatch took the bait. The smart thing would have been to say "yea yea, satanic edition, that's real cute, here's your database entry". Then the joke would have gotten old after a few weeks and died quietly. Instead, ironically enough, they have made them martyrs and given them a mission. People can be very determined when they think they are fighting for something. If the Romans hadn't executed Jesus most of us would probably still be pagans.

Re:Why is this important?

[ketilwaa]

Like XP, Vista, OSX, 98, 98 second edition, 95, etc..? Sounds nice. I'd go for that in stead of something half funny. I'd like Jaundiced Jackalope in stead though.

Re:Why is this important?

[Tubal-Cain]

Probably. I don't remember.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

Ubuntu Christians: Damn you all to hell, Ubuntu Satanists.

Ubuntu Satanists: Anytime.

Re:Why is this important?

[tokul]

Freedom of Speech only applies with respect to the Government, not private entities.

Rephrasing T.Jefferson. Private entities are free to ignore other religions.

You have the right to speak. Others have the right not to listen.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

haven'nt known that one. mahahaha! linux for the damned... _very_ funny! by the way: why is slashdot using the holy Debian GNU/linux logo for that "Jaunty Jackalope" of ubuntu? ubuntu's not Debian GNU/Linux. can you imagine the Debian folks using a name like that. they'd never have a crack-smocking name like that, not even for unstable. fuck sick...

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

Not everyone's a US citizen , you know

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

actually, if you looked around on their page, you would see that it has to do with their love of the occult and heavy metal music. you dumbass.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

Nah, they're busy invading Ubuntu Muslim Edition's holy servers.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

One of the major reasons is that it doesn't even have different programs installed from synaptic! All SE adds to Ubuntu is a bunch of lame themes, and some tits. Really? Is that what makes a distro? Boobs?

Re:Why is this important?

[sir fer]

THe dick that runs Distrowatch said that too many people would find it offensive. Personally I think ubuntuSE has some of the cooolest themes available for the 'buntu

Re:Why is this important?

[Have Brain Will Rent]

Boot times and web integration????

It would be nice if they quit making low priority, and at times frankly pointless, changes and concentrated on making it both useful to users and a happy experience. From Gutsy to Hardy the applications presented in the toolbar changed - for no good reason as far as I can see, needlessly confusing users. At the same time basic UI improvements went undone. I was going to remove Evolution for someone until I saw what synaptic said would also need to be removed... choice apparently doesn't include letting the users decide for themselves what mail, calendar etc. to use...

It isn't that I don't appreciate what the Ubuntu people are doing but they are fooling themselves if they think that installing and using Ubuntu (or any other distro I suspect) is anything like a friendly, happy experience for a new user. If it comes preconfigured on a system and the user doesn't want to change anything then maybe... but otherwise normal human beings aren't going to be happy.

Here's an example - iirc Ubuntu is going to make Samba the default file share mechanism (rather than NFS)... I tried using it to copy a directory tree for someone and it bitched about file names being too long... now they weren't too long for the source (Win2K) and they weren't too long for Hardy but apparently they were too long for Samba...the limit seemed to be 128. They were music files with artist, album, track number, track name etc. in the file name... very easy to get past 128 chars. Imagine being a naive user and getting that message... they will give up

If you're coming from a windows environment is it obvious in Ubuntu how to copy, rather than move, a file to a directory? I don't think so. Yes you can find it in the docs but users don't want to read the docs - why do things differently (just to be different?) and cause the user to have to work needlessly? Maybe just doing it the way Windows does is a patent problem thing but it was one of the first problems my friend encountered.

My suggestion to Ubuntu folk is this - pay a bunch of people to use the current system and tell you what they don't like - and then change what *they* want not what you think they should want changed. Get people who have never used a computer, get people who have used a computer but not Ubuntu or other distros, get people who have used the current version for some months... I bet you boot times and web integration aren't anywhere near the top of the resulting wish-list.

And geez, it's the 21st century and we still have fixed limits on the length of paths and filenames?

Re:Why is this important?

[mollymoo]

Freedom of Speech only applies with respect to the Government, not private entities.

The First Amendment of the US Constitution only applies to the US Government. The US constitution doesn't apply to most of the world and is far from the only definition of freedom of speech.

Re:Why is this important?

[Brain Damaged Bogan]

why is it that people who "unintentionally" make a pun always have to draw attention to it? it's downright hypocritical(no pun intended)...

Re:Why is this important?

[unlametheweak]

Because the name is juvenile flamebait?

Your question is at least a Troll, and probably intended to be Flaimbait as well. If you have a glance at the Web Site it is obvious that the distro is based on an artistic style. Unlike Christian etc commodities it does not appear to try and evangelize nor criticize religious belief systems. Christian distros are much more offensive and offer far more Flaimbait opportunity do to the nature and history of its religion.

Re:Why is this important?

[hotfireball]

Interesting name though. Associates to me something like "bounty jackass antelope" or similar... Very creative. :-)

Re:Why is this important?

[hotfireball]

No, because then we will have some more complete morons, who does useless things like "Ubuntu pornographic edition" (although, we have this already anyway...), "Ubuntu gay edition", "Ubuntu anti-Semite edition" and so on and so forth.

Re:Why is this important?

[zsau]

Surprisingly, that's actually a remarkably bad idea. Users are not usability experts. They're also really really nice people. Once they've found out how to do something (on their own or aided), they'll think its their fault and they'll tell you want a nice system you've really got and how they'd be quite happy to use it. That is, unless you're unfortunate enough to get a bunch of geeks to be your participants. Not because there's anything wrong with geeks, but because geeks aren't the target of (Ubuntu/Gnome's) usability studies.

Usability studies must be monitored by a trained expert, and their review of a user's behavior and recommendations based on that is much more important. If you think I'm wrong, for you and your friends at least, then you might be right, for you and your friends: but you're geeks and you have different priorities.

And as for faster startup times, the last thing you want to do is to frustrate users by making them wait to begin with. Us geeks have worked out methods of getting around this: we leave our computers on or suspend them whenever we can; we go get breakfast or have a shower or perform other aspects of our morning ritual when that's not an option. But for people who the computer isn't an important part of their life, their not going to do these things. The chance of them using their computer is going to be related to the startup speed of their computer,

(I'm also not sure what the "Windows way" of copying a file to another directory is. I can think of at least three, and I don't use Windows that often. Probably there's more.)

Re:Why is this important?

[Have Brain Will Rent]

Surprisingly, that's actually a remarkably bad idea...

As someone who has done product testing, for tech products designed for use by non-tech people, I can tell you it's actually a remarkably good idea. Users are in fact the real usability experts in the truest sense - and it isn't hard to find people who will tell you the blunt truth about how usable your product is. And of course studies must be conducted by experts... I was talking about the subjects of the study, not who runs the study or analyses the results.

As for faster startup times - they aren't bad now. Better to have reasonable startup times for a system that's really usable than ultra-fast startup times for a system users don't want to use. I'm sorry you don't see it that way. The chance of someone using their computer is going to be most strongly correlated with how usable it is, not whether it boots up in 10 seconds rather than 25 seconds.

As to the "Windows way" I was referring to the particular use of mouse buttons to drag and drop files - sorry I didn't make that obvious.

Re:Why is this important?

[Anonymous Coward]

Free Gunk 0 Gnu by Ubuntu

Re:Why is this important?

[RiotingPacifist]

1) If you didnt like the "simplified" gnome interface try KDE
2) When you remove Evolution it has to remove anyprograms that need evolution to run
3) When you remove Evolution it will also remove a few meta-packages that are simply there to make installation easier
4) tl;dr

ok i read on a bit

My suggestion to Ubuntu folk is this - pay a bunch of people to use the current system and tell you what they don't like - and then change what *they* want not what you think they should want changed. Get people who have never used a computer, get people who have used a computer but not Ubuntu or other distros, get people who have used the current version for some months... I bet you boot times and web integration aren't anywhere near the top of the resulting wish-list.

like this but costing more money and targeting none-geeks, why bother? Sure the idea of having linux as the major OS is a nice dream, but at the end of the day how does improving it for "plebs" help the rest of us.

Re:Why is this important?

[Shadow_139]

Then way was the Muslim and Christian editions not removed for the same reason?

From http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/ "What about Muslim and Christian editions?! It seems that your worries about trademark infringement and offensive material don't stop you from including those. I thought Distrowatch was supost to be a list of Linux distributions. Surely it your purpose is to reflect the world of Linux and not dictate it."

Re:Why is this important?

[Knuckles]

there's really nothing nice about Satan

Only if you believe the judeo-christian propaganda. There are valid differing interpretations of the Satan persona, such as the one Wikipedia mentions (emphasis by me),

While Hebrew ha-Satan is "the accuser" and Satan itself means "to overcome" - the one who challenged the religious faith of humans in the books of Job and Zechariah - Abrahamic religious belief systems other than Judaism relate this term to a demon, a rebellious fallen angel, devil, minor god and idol, or as an allegory for knowledge or the enlightenment of mankind.

Re:Why is this important?

[Have Brain Will Rent]

It wasn't me, but the point was that this was the interface presented to a new user by default. I don't think "try a completely different UI" is really as reasonable response to "why have you needlessly changed things?"...

Sure the idea of having linux as the major OS is a nice dream, but at the end of the day how does improving it for "plebs" help the rest of us.

ok, if you don't care about linux being adopted as a major OS then sure, there's no point. Or is there? You know it's actually the case that you have a lot in common with "plebs" and making things work better for them might make things work better for you too... Sometimes it's easier to see things when you use a "simpler" test model (or subject as the case may be).

Re:Why is this important?

[Joe Snipe]

I wrote it, and after re-reading my post noticed the lame pun, then I added the no pun intended. It was funny to me, sorry you didn't feel the same.

Re:Why is this important?

[speedtux]

Because the name is juvenile flamebait?

It's a themed distro.

The creator of the distro isn't a Satanist, and neither are the posters on his board.

And how exactly do you know this?

Besides, 99.9% of the people who call themselves "Christian" aren't Christian either, they just use the name.

It doesn't mean that Distro Watch has to give a crap about your distro either.

DistroWatch can do whatever they want. But if they start deciding what's a valid religion or cause and what is not, they are losing credibility.

Re:Why is this important?

[JThundley]

As a contributor to Ubuntu Satanic Edition, I can tell you that you're wrong. I am a satanist. I submit to the dark overlord's rule, as he gives me abundant worldly pleasures. Why does Ladislav worry about this offending people? It's not a bad word and is another interesting distro to put on the list. Would people boycott his site for seeing Satanic Edition? Probably not, they'd instead send an angry email to the Satanic Edition maintainer.

Re:Why is this important?

[Seraphim_72]

Normally I don't reply to this kind of philosophical mess, but you seem to be young and impressionable.

It's a themed distro.

It is a themed Distro? Great, one more reason to ignore it on Distrowatch. Ooohhh... why isn't the Hello Kitty Distro there? People actively gripe about *actual* distros that are different because of compiler issues on different Archs on different chips on different chipsets, and even they don't make the grade.

And how exactly do you know this?

I know he is not a Satanist because he never claims such. I would bet if he was making Ubuntu-Bhudda and got this kind of treatment he would (rightly) scream his lungs out. Besides, his responses on his own site were more about censorism then religious persecution.

Besides, 99.9% of the people who call themselves "Christian" aren't Christian either, they just use the name.

I can make up 99.9% of facts too

DistroWatch can do whatever they want. But if they start deciding what's a valid religion or cause and what is not, they are losing credibility..

No, they decided who was an asshole for publicity and who wasn't.



This really isn't a religious thing. I could make a UbuntuOvens distro where my themes was Auschwitz pics of Jews in line for the showers. Guess what, I would be an asshole. And it would have nothing to do with being a Jew if I hated it or thought it was stupid. Worse, me screaming "MY RIGHTS!" means nothing on a private forum.



I will go off board here and say the the brand of modern Solipsism and Hedonism that modern Satanism seems to think they have inherited from Anton "Lion tamer" Lavey makes them holy instead of the pretenders that they are. If you want the Name, earn it.


And if you want to stray into real Theology, be my guest. My Sig should give you caution though.

Seraphim

Re:Why is this important?

[Yfrwlf]

Yes but you know as well as I do that Satan is definitely not limited to "challenging religious faith", there's a lot more than that. Satan is defined in many different places so if you take all of those definitions as true then he's definitely an asshole. But, yes, if you want to have a religion which believes in the good parts about Satan...or...well, the good part at least about questioning "faith", haha, then whatever, but that's a pretty hypocritical "religion" to believe in. If you believe religious faith should be challenged then believing in Satan is pretty dumb unless it's meant to be sarcasm like the flying spaghetti monster.

Re:Then what is "Intrepid?"

[Anonymous Coward]

Read the entire summary.

Name

[Anonymous Coward]

And to think I had my money on the return of jazz jackrabbit...

I can't wait

[MyLongNickName]

until version 24 comes out....

Re:I can't wait

[Timesprout]

Why what's so special about Xany Xanthupotamus?

Re:I can't wait

[Lostlander]

Take your picks
Animals
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070403165056AAMX3zI

Adjectives
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_adjectives_begin_with_x

Re:I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

Xenophobic Xenophage?

Re:I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

until version 24 comes out....

You mean "Alabaster Antelope" (Wrap around)? Or, if they are following the ascii table... {cat (curly bracket cat)? Either way, it will be interesting.

Re:I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

It'll be a relief to get off Wanking Wallaby, though :P

Re:I can't wait

[BPPG]

Masturbating Monkey? With a special focus on security?

Re:I can't wait

[Creepy Crawler]

Xstatic Xenu

Ubuntu Scientology Edition

Re:I can't wait

[Von Helmet]

Ubuntu Jack Bauer

If Jack Bauer says his name begins with the letter X, you better agree with him.

Re:I can't wait

[Abreu]

Xtatic Xiphophorus?

Re:I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

I vote for Xeric Xiphias.

Re:I can't wait

[Anonymous Coward]

Wrap around? I would have swore that we had 26 letters in the latin calendar...

Re:I can't wait

[yoyhed]

True, but considering there are 2 names per one major Ubuntu version, and considering the fact that alphabetical naming started with version 6 at the letter D, my rudimentary finger-counting puts it at the letters N and O for the two version 24 releases (in 2024).

I agree.. but...

[sleeponthemic]

Hard for new people to take it seriously as an OS when the naming scheme is that out there.

Stick to product numbers, futuristic ones are the best. For example: Ubuntu 2000. Fucking genius hitech name for the future. Have that name for free. I'm too busy trademarking "hurricane computing".

Re:I agree.. but...

[geminidomino]

Stick to product numbers, futuristic ones are the best. For example: Ubuntu 2000. Fucking genius hitech name for the future.

Hate to tell you this, but 2000 isn't the future anymore. We just got body cavity searches to buy a cup of coffee instead of jetpacks.

Re:I agree.. but...

[Constantine XVI]

The codenames are only officially used in development and the names of repositories, both of which will not be seen by "new people". ubuntu.com, the installer, and the default homepage all refer to "Ubuntu 8.04 LTS".

Re:I agree.. but...

[moosesocks]

If you're doing almost exactly one release per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.

Re:I agree.. but...

[k33l0r]

I sincerely hope you were being sarcastic about "Ubuntu 2000" being futuristic. Nonetheless, I would imagine that real names are easier to remember; try asking an average user whether they have Ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10...

Re:I agree.. but...

[Blimey85]

Right but when you go to the irc channel to ask for help, then you are going to get confused. I'm running Hardy and when I have a question I can tell people that's what I'm running, but I don't even know what the corresponding version number is, nor have I needed to know that. Also, when you are searching for answers, most if not all of the tutorials I have come across use the codename. They might also use the version number but I haven't noticed if that's the case or not.

Re:I agree.. but...

[mollymoo]

The Islamic edition of Windows 2000 won't be released for another six centuries, you insensitive clod.

Re:I agree.. but...

[phyrz]

if you're techy enough to use IRC, surely you can work out the gnarly gnames.

Re:I agree.. but...

[Blimey85]

Have you never visited Bash? It's proof that you don't need to be a genius to use IRC.

Re:I agree.. but...

[Anonymous Coward]

That's fine. The people in #ubuntu know both the codenames and the version numbers, and are generally comfortable using either one, or both.

Not knowing the answer to something is no reason to to ask another unrelated question, in #ubuntu of all places. Everyone's new at some point, there's no need to ostracize anyone for giving linux a try.

Re:I agree.. but...

[Jah-Wren Ryel]

Hate to tell you this, but 2000 isn't the future anymore. We just got body cavity searches to buy a cup of coffee instead of jetpacks.

That would be Ubuntu 1984.

Re:I agree.. but...

[WK2]

I've seen this argument before, and it is disgustingly ironic. Codenames that are unrelated to what they describe have the advantage that they can describe something else if needed. For example, it was originally assumed that Ubuntu Dapper Drake would become 6.04 LTS. However, they delayed the release for a couple of months for stability reasons, and Dapper Drake became 6.06. If they had referred to Dapper Drake as 6.04 from the start, the change would have been more difficult. Also, codenames are easier to remember, and more difficult to mis-type.

What you are suggesting is that they reduce functionality to make it "sound better", which is the opposite of professional.

Re:I agree.. but...

[nurb432]

Why should they stick to numbers only for their *internal* code names?

Its not like everyone is doing it too... ( that is sarcasm if you are humor impaired )

Re:I agree.. but...

[Anonymous Coward]

All right, Ubuntu 1984 then?

Re:I agree.. but...

[Anonymous Coward]

Ubuntu 12.04 - 'Pedophile Prophet'.

Re:I agree.. but...

[Xabraxas]

This is how Gentoo does it. Versions are numbered with the year and back when we were getting updates twice a year it would be 2006.0 and 2006.5. It has worked quite well since release 2004.0.

Re:I agree.. but...

[poopdeville]

I sincerely hope you were being sarcastic about "Ubuntu 2000" being futuristic.

Protip: when you "sincerely hope" somebody was being sarcastic, they probably were.

Re:I agree.. but...

[k33l0r]

I'm sure you've never had a typo.

Re:I agree.. but...

[sleeponthemic]

Can you not tell that what I posted was a pure joke?

Re:I agree.. but...

[Knuckles]

Exactly, and the code names work wonders on Google.

Re:I agree.. but...

[dullnev]

If you're doing almost exactly one release per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.

If you're doing almost exactly two releases per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.

Jackalope?

[torstenvl]

Aren't Ubuntu releases usually named after animals that actually exist?

Re:Jackalope?

[bonkeydcow]

They do exist! I have seen the postcards.

Re:Jackalope?

[AvitarX]

Apparently not.

Re:Jackalope?

[oodaloop]

At least I've heard of a Jackalope. WTF is an Eft? Anyone?

Re:Jackalope?

[melikamp]

They all exist, sans the adjectives. Well, until now, that is.

Re:Jackalope?

[Tubal-Cain]

A laval newt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt

Re:Jackalope?

[Bloodoflethe]

You would prefer Jabberwock, perhaps?

Re:Jackalope?

[Anonymous Coward]

Aren't Ubuntu releases usually named after animals that actually exist?

Has someone proven that it *doesn't* exist? Just because you haven't seen one doesn't mean it's not real.

Re:Jackalope?

[thomasdz]

ob Python reference: A witch turned me into a newt once. Luckily, I got better.

Re:Jackalope?

[kpainter]

Considering the crowd here on Slashdot, it should be called "Jack-a-lot".

Re:Jackalope?

[geminidomino]

Liar. Python doesn't do references. Use a list.

Re:Jackalope?

[athakur999]

Sassy Sasquatch?
Cheeky Chucacabra?
Moody Manbearpig?

Re:Jackalope?

[Anonymous Coward]

I haven't seen an elephant in Alaska but that doesn't mean there are no elephants in Alaska. Therefore there are elephants in Alaska.

Re:Jackalope?

[Anonymous Coward]

Aren't Ubuntu releases usually named after animals that actually exist?

I was going to try to make a Red vs. Blue reference, but I think the warthog (Warty Warthog was the first release of Ubuntu) was the one animal Sarge did admit existed. (I feel both too old and too young in an attempt to reference Red vs. Blue.)

Instead I'll just wonder why the fact that the half dozen animals used being real means that the pattern is established that real and not made-up animals are used.

Re:Jackalope?

[fm6]

No, they are all named after animals about whom you can make cute alliterations. I guess they could have named it Jovial Jellyfish or Junior Jaguar. Personally, I would have liked to see Jerky Jacksnipe. Perhaps somebody is just fond of the Jackalope "meme".

Re:Jackalope?

[Anonymous Coward]

I hope Ubuntu 9.10 will be called Kinky Kiwi.

Re:Jackalope?

[Reziac]

Besides, they're the State Bird of Wyoming.

The perfect mascot for vapourware, eh? ;)

Re:Jackalope?

[fscky]

Chupacabra you meant?

Re:"M" is for Moronic

[Anonymous Coward]

coming (no pun intended) on the heels of hairy hardon, is this surprising?

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Yee-haw.

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been using Retarded Rabbit backports for months now.

Re:Yee-haw.

[Rik Sweeney]

That statement would have been so much funnier if you'd been a lady proudly declaring that you've been using your Rampant Rabbit for months now.

Guessing the new name is fun...

[MindKata]

Not sure about "Intrepid $animal". As for Jaunty Jackalope?, what a name ... I was hoping for a Jucy Jezabel. Oh well, at least they are going for Intrepid Ibex. My best guess was Incontinent Iguana. So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?

Oh well, trying to guess the new name is making waiting for each update more fun. Maybe Microsoft should try using names. I guess they could try to be different and start with Zoosporangium Zebra and work backwards.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[MindKata]

Doh, Kinky Kangaroo, not a Hangaroo. Not sure what a Hangaroo is. Then again, not sure I would want to meet either of them!

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[somersault]

Maybe Microsoft should try using names

Microsoft always use names for their unfinished products. Which probably explains Vista (which was previously "Longhorn"). Ubuntu never actually uses the codenames for the final releases anyway..

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[WDot]

I was hoping for Jazzy $animal. I know what Jaunty means, but when hearing the sound of the word I think "jaundice." When I hear jazzy I think "awesome."

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[AvitarX]

It does for the repository names.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

It's a fat kangaroo that is perpetually hung over, and therefore looks more like a wombat.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[somersault]

Ya I know, that isn't prominent enough to turn professional/boring people off from the product because of silly names though, they'd already be hooked before they become geeky enough to find out about that ;)

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[SeePage87]

I guess they could try to be different and start with Zoosporangium Zebra and work backwards.

How is that different? Seems like Microsoft has been working backwards for quite some time now.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[GrandNord]

I was looking forward to Jumping Jackass; with some work to make it leaner and shed some of the bloat.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[snoyberg]

Why does everyone assume the Z will be Zebra? What about the Zorillas?

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Kjella]

So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?

With two exceptions (Dapper and Intrepid) they've gone for short, simple, fairly uncommon words ending in -y. They know that many people search for help on google using the keywords, as "ubuntu hardy" will return what you want while "ubuntu 8.04" will return lots of pages that happen to contain those numbers somewhere. For that reason "kinky" is entirely out of the question becaues of all the NSFW hits you'd get. So if you want an educated guess I'd go with "kozy" and "lofty" as the adjectives. The animals well that's just what they feel like...

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[camperdave]

Doh, Kinky Kangaroo, not a Hangaroo.

Not to worry, my OCR can't handle some of my handwriting either.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Chris Burke]

Not sure about "Intrepid $animal". As for Jaunty Jackalope?, what a name ... I was hoping for a Jucy Jezabel. Oh well, at least they are going for Intrepid Ibex. My best guess was Incontinent Iguana. So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?

I think the theme should go beyond just "adjective + animal starting with the same letter". There should be a theme in the adjectives, and Kinky Kangaroo should be the basis.

Kinky Kangaroo
Lecherous Lobster
Masturbating Mongoose
Naughty Naked Mole Rat
Orgasmic Orangutan
Penetrating Porpoise
Queer Quail
Randy Rabbit

And so on. Now doesn't that kind of thematic continuity speak to quality and professionalism? People say the Ubuntu names are holding it back because they sound childish and nobody outside us geeks could recognize them. But when you say "I have Naughty Naked Mole Rat on my laptop!", people will instantly know that's the follow-on to the successful Masturbating Mongoose.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Why, AArogant AArdvark, of course.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Is a Zorilla related to a "pole panther?"

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[rbanffy]

If they preserve the brownish/yellowish themes, "Jaundiced Jackalope" would be a proper nickname ;-)

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't forget the Wanking Walrus (as proposed on lwn.net) when the 23th release nears itself.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Smauler]

Or indeed the Zonkey (or Zeedonk), Zebroid, Zony or Zorse!

Personally, however, I think they should go for as late in the alphabet as possible, and just go for the Zygia Metalmark, or the overall winner, Zygophyllacea Scale.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Not sure about "Intrepid $animal". As for Jaunty Jackalope?, what a name ... I was hoping for a Jucy Jezabel. Oh well, at least they are going for Intrepid Ibex. My best guess was Incontinent Iguana. So what next?, Kinky Hangaroo and Lopsided Lobster?

Oh well, trying to guess the new name is making waiting for each update more fun. Maybe Microsoft should try using names. I guess they could try to be different and start with Zoosporangium Zebra and work backwards.

I'm more interested to see what they will do with 'Q'

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[ciderVisor]

Not sure what a Hangaroo is. Then again, not sure I would want to meet either of them!

It's the 'Dangerous' that you need to look out for.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Culture20]

And the Zebus?

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[ryan.rousseau]

What about Zonkeys?

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[mabinogi]

ahhh, you mean an Australian!

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[oldspewey]

Kinky Kangaroo
Lecherous Lobster
Masturbating Mongoose
Naughty Naked Mole Rat
Orgasmic Orangutan
Penetrating Porpoise
Queer Quail
Randy Rabbit

And so on.

Slutty Skunk ...

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[mangu]

I'm more interested to see what they will do with 'Q'

Just above your comment is a suggestion for "Queer Quail". However, since Shuttleworth is a South African, I would rather bet on "Quintessential Quagga".

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[sir fer]

$adjective Jaguar would have been better IMO....

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Shikaku]

Last letter Ubuntu release: ZOMG ZONIES!

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[petermgreen]

maybe a little too close to apples trademark for comfort though.....

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Jorophose]

Itchy iguana would have made such a good name instead of "intrepid ibex".

Itchy makes you think it's shedding its skin, going on to something fresh. Of course 8.10 is not about that but still.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[petermgreen]

note that L will be a long term support release so I would think they would try to find something more proffesional sounding for that one.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Trogre]

I think they really missed the boat when they rejected Flatulent Ferret.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[glittalogik]

Turgid Tarsier

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Tonguing Tortoise
Urinating Ungulate
Virile Velociraptor
Wanking Wasp ...
Enough Already!

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Brain Damaged Bogan]

it's a kangaroo with suicidal tendencies, you see them dangling from gum-trees all the time.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[tchiseen]

I want the "K" installment to be called: Killer Koala I think that'd be cool.

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[rgo]

zanks, i peed myself

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[Anonymous Coward]

Slutty Salted Slugs

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[halcyon1234]

Xenophilic Xantus. Tagline, you can have your Yak and fsck it too!

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[snoyberg]

Actually, you just made me think of "ZOMG ZOMBIES"

Re:Guessing the new name is fun...

[touchy_kernel]

Queer Quail

Remember Dapper Duck?

What I want to know is

[3p1ph4ny]

...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?

As far as I know, there's only three animals that start with "aa", and no adjectives. Unless they're going to roll over to just "a" again, which would be lame (but more practical).

Re:What I want to know is

[Azaril]

Im a fan of Ubuntu, but if its still running in 2017 in its current format without being replaced at the top, I'd be really worried about the lack of competition in the free software movement.

Re:What I want to know is

[3p1ph4ny]

Well, Debian has been running for 15 years so it's certainly possible.

Re:What I want to know is

[3p1ph4ny]

It was a joke. I assume they'd choose different animals and adjectives, so nobody would be confused.

Re:What I want to know is

[LighterShadeOfBlack]

...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?

I lay awake in bed at night wondering the same thing, cold sweat running down my face as I count down the seconds until the release of Ubuntu 17.10. Then I consider that the world is becoming increasingly unstable and fractured and I realise that there's a good chance the human race will destroy itself in a fiery hellstorm of nuclear war long before then. With this thought comes overwhelming relief and I cry myself to sleep with tears of joy that I will never have to face the terrible reality of knowing what comes after Zesty Zebra.

Re:What I want to know is

[lolocaust]

17 represents the year 2017. 2017-2004=13, because the original release was in 2004. 13x2=26, because releases are every 6 months, i.e. twice a year.

Re:What I want to know is

[scubamage]

Without a reboot, no less.

Re:What I want to know is

[scubamage]

I can't wait for horny hedgehog. And nubile nakedmolerat.

Re:What I want to know is

[SirLoadALot]

lay awake in bed at night wondering the same thing, cold sweat running down my face as I count down the seconds until the release of Ubuntu 17.10

In English, there are more than 17 letters.

In Ubuntu, there are more than two releases per year.

Re:What I want to know is

[bonkeydcow]

a aggravated aardvark

Re:What I want to know is

[daenris]

Hopefully they'd limit themselves to grammatically correct choices. So, no to that.

Re:What I want to know is

[Prefader]

In Ubuntu, there are more than two releases per year.

Really? Since I've been using it, there's only been 2 per year - the x.04 (April), and x.10 (October) releases. This has been the case since Hoary (4.10?), as far as I know.

Re:What I want to know is

[DenaliPrime]

In Ubuntu, there are more than two releases per year.

Considering every release is either a .04 (April) or a .10 (October) release, how do you figure? Are you counting Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, etc?

Re:What I want to know is

[rmccann]

The first ubuntu release, 4.10 was warty warthog. there never was an 'a' release

Re:What I want to know is

[mollymoo]

I lay awake in bed at night wondering the same thing, cold sweat running down my face as I count down the seconds until the release of Ubuntu 17.10. Then I consider that the world is becoming increasingly unstable and fractured and I realise that there's a good chance the human race will destroy itself in a fiery hellstorm of nuclear war long before then.

Nuclear war? We're all gonna die tomorrow when we get turned to strangelets by the LHC. I've withdrawn all my savings and will be blowing the lot on hookers and cocaine tonight. That's what I do every Tuesday and I won't let the end of the world spoil my fun!

Re:What I want to know is

[Centurix]

[ucking [ruitbats

Re:What I want to know is

[BPPG]

He might be talking about the updated releases for the LTS versions. 8.04.1 is out now, for example. I'm not sure if the non-LTS versions also do this.

But really, referring to these as separate releases is kind of nit-picking.

Re:What I want to know is

[Anonymous Coward]

...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?

Dr. Seuss already solved this one On Beyond Zebra

Re:What I want to know is

[mhall119]

But that's like, what, 5 releases?

Re:What I want to know is

[mhall119]

Actually, Ubuntu never had an A, B or C named release, they started alphabetical order with Dapper Drake. They've also already used W (Warty Warthog) and repeated H (Hoary Hedgehog and Hardy Heron).

Re:What I want to know is

[temcat]

I would start with A again, and call the new release simply Animal Adjective.

Re:What I want to know is

[3p1ph4ny]

No worries. If that's the worst mistake you made all day, you had a good day.

Re:What I want to know is

[BlackPignouf]

Especially because there never was any A???? A???? distro.

Re:What I want to know is

[petermgreen]

You're forgetting Breezy Badger though there was indeed no A or C named release.

Re:What I want to know is

[BrokenHalo]

Im a fan of Ubuntu, but if its still running in 2017 in its current format without being replaced at the top, I'd be really worried about the lack of competition in the free software movement.

Given that Unix has already been around for something like 30 years, I wouldn't be too worried.

Re:What I want to know is

[MrFlannel]

Only LTS releases will get point releases, but they're not really "releases" just refreshes of the ISOs, it's nothing meaningful as far as installed systems are concerned (I guess it's useful for setting milestone goals or something, but that's not technical). They take the updated packages, throw them on the CD so you don't have to download as many updates after you install.
Having an installed system that you updated completely the day the images were released* would leave you with the same system.

And while we're being thorough they're offset by three months, so January an August.

See http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 for more information (including fancy pictures).

* It's likely a day or two before release, whenever the images are created, yadda yadda.

Re:What I want to know is

[Yfrwlf]

How can you have a savings to blow if you do it every Tuesday? You get paid twice per week?

Re:What I want to know is

[FooBarWidget]

I'm wondering what they're going to do after 2009. Current version is Ubuntu 8.04. Then comes 8.10, 9.04 and 9.10. What's the next version then? Ubuntu 0.04? Or would they call it 10.04?

Re:What I want to know is

[DdJ]

...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?

Cyrillic? Arabic? Kanji? Unicode is pretty big...

Re:What I want to know is

[Anonymous Coward]

How about Anal Ass?

Re:What I want to know is

[Anonymous Coward]

oh noes! the y2k10 bug!

probably not 0.04 or 2010.04.

I'd expect 10.04

Re:What I want to know is

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly, why not stick with the way we've always done things? Progress be damned - geeks like Unix, so we should be stuck in the 1970s until the end of time.

Re:What I want to know is

[jep77]

Ubuntu XP

Re:What I want to know is

[newport78]

I'm thinking aardvark.

Re:What I want to know is

[zachtib]

I would start with A again, and call the new release simply Animal Adjective.

wouldn't it be Adjective Animal?

Re:What I want to know is

[nabsltd]

We're all gonna die tomorrow when we get turned to strangelets by the LHC. I've withdrawn all my savings and will be blowing the lot on hookers and cocaine tonight.

So, you've already gotten to the point of just skipping the blackjack?

Re:What I want to know is

[Bishop Rook]

I was waiting for the paranoid numerology conspiracy theory that never materialized. Come on, there's a lot of numbers there, particularly suspicious ones like 13 and 6! How can we link this into Satan, the CIA, reptoids, and the Mayan calendar?

Re:What I want to know is

[temcat]

Yep, it's just that I have never seen the word "adjective" used as, well, an adjective. Though I have just looked it up in a dictionary, and here it is:

adjective

ADJECTIVE: 1. Adjectival: an adjective clause. 2. Law Prescriptive; remedial: adjective law. 3. Not standing alone; derivative or dependent.

Re:What I want to know is

[Anonymous Coward]

Anal Ass

you mean, Difficult Donkey?

Re:What I want to know is

[smclean]

At least until the end of time().

Re:What I want to know is

[wanderingknight]

Until 2037, then?

Re:What I want to know is

[Warbothong]

...what the hell are they going to do after 26 releases?

As far as I know, there's only three animals that start with "aa", and no adjectives. Unless they're going to roll over to just "a" again, which would be lame (but more practical).

The naming system hasn't been in place for the whole of Ubuntu's life.

First came Warty Warthog, then Hoary Hedgehog, Breezy Badger and Dapper Drake. Only with version 6.10 did they follow alphabetically, with Edgy Eft.

Besides, Mark Shuttleworth probably has enough money to either find or genetically engineer new species, then name them to fit Ubuntu's releases :P

Re:What I want to know is

[Dirtside]

Followed by, of course, Beastly Branding.

Re:What I want to know is

[sir fer]

Well by then the machine I'm posting this on will be ultra-legacy, (2.53GHz,2gb ram,250gb sata hdd, debian etch) but it will probably still do everything at super speed so will I really need new hardware?

Re:What I want to know is

[sir fer]

well they've started using fanciful animals so why should proper grammar get in their way? Fascist!

Re:What I want to know is

[sir fer]

Ubuntu Violent Vista?

Re:What I want to know is

[MichaelSmith]

lay awake in bed at night wondering the same thing, cold sweat running down my face as I count down the seconds until the release of Ubuntu 17.10

In English, there are more than 17 letters.

They could start using a different character set. It would take thousands of years to run out of names in Chinese.

Re:What I want to know is

[awrowe]

What happens when we get to B again? Broken Beaver?

Re:What I want to know is

[awrowe]

No just the once. On a Wednesday.

Re:What I want to know is

[awrowe]

I reckon we should start working with Terry Pratchet's calendar. I really like the idea of the Year of the Fruitbat.

Re:What I want to know is

[Kickersny.com]

Minor nitpick, but there's one outlier: 6.06 was delayed by two months due to some packages not being stable, IIRC.

Re:What I want to know is

[Bwana Geek]

They didn't even start at "a". It wasn't until Dapper Drake (6.06) that they started codenaming subsequent releases with the next letter of the alphabet. The first Ubuntu release was Warty Warthog.

But hey, maybe when they get to the end of the alphabet they can add adverbs to the codenames. Amusingly Awkward Antlion, perhaps?

Re:What I want to know is

[master5o1]

there hasnt been an a yet.

warty warthog
hoary hedgehog
breezy badger
dapper drake
edgy eft
feisty fawn
gutsy gibbon
hardy heron
..intrepid ibex
..jaunty jackelope.


Although I think that since a jackelope isn't real they might be playing a joke and are planning a 9.06 where it will actually be Jaunty Jackal

idk.

Re:What I want to know is

[master5o1]

Bob Barr coudld be an Ubuntu release when they roll back after going through the alphabet once.

Re:What I want to know is

[Vireo]

Personnaly, I just can't wait for the concept of releases to go away. I download updates almost every day, so that the software installed on my computer is always changing anyway. New releases can be installed as updates, so why bother at all?

Why not update the .iso file every day for newcomers, and simply update continually from there on. Ok, I'm aware this would make it harder to write specs (e.g. "compatible with release X or Y"), but nothing prevents generating freezes if needed.

Re:What I want to know is

[touchy_kernel]

Vista Viper

Moving on to imaginary creatures now?

[Anonymous Coward]

All the critters named up till now have all been real animals right? I just hope that means they move on to nethack creatures... like Nifty Naga!

Re:Moving on to imaginary creatures now?

[Chris Burke]

I sure hope so, and I'll be eagerly waiting for Crap-face-mother-fucking-killed-me-again-damn-them-to-fucking-hell Cockatrice!

Re:Moving on to imaginary creatures now?

[th3rmite]

What about Crafty Cthulhu?

Re:Moving on to imaginary creatures now?

[DeadDecoy]

I'm waiting for Gruesome Gru.
That way, when X crashes to a black terminal I can say, "O noes, by desktop has been eaten by a Gru"

The translation of this name

[martinw89]

In the PyWeek IRC room, one person found the translation for this name:

"I'm so rich I've gone to space so I can name this whatever the fuck I feel like."

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Jaundiced Jumprope?

[coren2000]

Did I read that right?

Re:What happened to "I"?

[Rik Sweeney]

Intrepid Ibex is the "I". It's out in October.

Re:What happened to "I"?

[frith01]

How about reading the summary ? :

  8.10 release, Intrepid Ibex, is coming next month

Re:What happened to "I"?

[silvaran]

8.04 = Hardy Heron = April 2008
8.10 = Intrepid Ibex = October 2008
9.04 = Jaunty Jackalope = April 2009

Re:What happened to "I"?

[Donniedarkness]

RTFS (Read the featured summary).

Re:What happened to "I"?

[1shooter]

The Ubuntu development community is currently gearing up for the 8.10 release, codenamed Intrepid Ibex, which is scheduled for next month. Ibex will include GNOME 2.24 and lots of other new stuff.

RTFA or at least the summary.

Re:What happened to "I"?

[kaos07]

Psht, I read Slashdot for the comments, not the summary!

What is a Jackalope?

[Baron Eekman]

A Jackalope? If thats what it is, well fuck if I know. /ICP

Re:What is a Jackalope?

[bonkeydcow]

Jackalope

Re:What is a Jackalope?

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks to TinEye, I know that the original image came from here and was Photoshopped here.

What about Ubuntu 10.10

[Anonymous Coward]

Will Ubuntu 10.10 be called Mastubrating Monkey?

Re:What about Ubuntu 10.10

[bonkeydcow]

I have heard of monkeys, but what is this Mastubrating [sic] you speak of?

Re:What about Ubuntu 10.10

[Chris Burke]

Give him a break, he was typing with one hand.

Re:What about Ubuntu 10.10

[Anonymous Coward]

I believe it's when you get sexual pleasure from "[H]ard"ware.

Re:What about Ubuntu 10.10

[Kesch]

I'm hoping that for the N release they combine "Naughty" and "Nymph"

Is it the sneak?

[sesshomaru]

Who's the Jaunty Jackanapes with Moxy and Pizazz?

Re:What happened to "I"?

[somersault]

If you'd bravely soldiered on to the third sentence of the summary (don't strain yourself now, remember to take a 5 minute break in between sentences), you would have found out!

Speed is important...

[Blice]

I'm glad they're finally going to put some attention on boot time and speed. I'm a big fan of getting your boot times down, mine is 8 seconds (brag brag...).

But when I see Ubuntu and it boots slower than XP and... Well, feels slower than XP, I have to facepalm. Linux is supposed to be the faster one, it's supposed to be the one where you can say "Man, you use XP? It's so slow! Use Linux!", but with Ubuntu you can't really say that. Not that it's Ubuntu's fault, I put the blame on Gnome. The Gnome desktop is bulky and slow, your *panel* shouldn't be using CPU cycles constantly, or the amount of memory gnome-panel uses. There's alternatives for sure (And I'm not talking about KDE, it's almost as bad.), but you have to piece it together yourself because it isn't a single DE. I.E, Openbox WM, pypanel or bmpanel or lxpanel or lbpanel or one of those (I prefer pypanel and bmpanel), pcmanfm filenavigator (Can also set icons on the desktop and manage wallpapers), and on and on. There's tons of lightweight programs out there with the same abilities, just not packaged neatly together. But people are trying! Just have a look at crunchbang linux and DEs like lxde. Using this stuff, you can get that old 550mhz thinkpad you have in your closet up and running again, webbrowsing and e-mailing at lightning speeds. THIS, to me, is what Linux should represent. Not the slow bulky thing you have to buy a new computer for!

But about the other things with the new Ubuntu release, polishlinux has a great review of what Ubuntu alpha looks like right now, and what we can expect from it here.

Looks like nautilus is finally getting tabs, although the lighter pcmanfm has had tabs for awhile. I'm really excited about is improvements with the network manager and with xorg... Two places that really need improvement. Seems like wireless support improves with each release, and I hope it continues on that awesome path. And it seems that the kernel 2.6.27 will be out in time for this release! It's already on rc5, and most kernels don't go past rc10 before release (And they're releasing an rc once a week, or about once a week).

It's all very exciting, but again the one thing I hope for more than anything else is speed and bloat! Keep Linux the OS that you say "You don't even have to get a new computer for it. It's fast, unlike Vista/XP/OSX/Everythingever", please please please

Re:Speed is important...

[nawcom]

What runs on X11 really shouldn't be a component of Linux by itself, since X11 runs on many OSs. though I do agree with you in saying that the fault goes to GNOME developers, I must say that it was Ubuntu who decided to design the distribution around it. I can't tell you how many times people insist I'm using Linux since they see I'm running Xfce, yet they look at me strange when i run uname and show that I'm running it off of FreeBSD. Oh well. When it comes to Linux, I'm the Slackware type, so I come from a different perspective on what to expect. Hopefully the next Ubuntu release will be better.

Re:Speed is important...

[WormholeFiend]

I'd rather have a linux version that is more user friendly for installing apps, instead of having to google instructions each time I want to install stuff that isn't in synaptic.

I mean cmon, do I really have to open the terminal and type 4-5 command lines each time plus my root pw?

Installing stuff should be as easy as click, are you sure? yes/no.

Re:Speed is important...

[Bob-taro]

Mod parent up. I was getting annoyed that no-one seemed to care about anything except what they named the release! I was starting to think I was on a PHB forum!

Re:Speed is important...

[Blice]

For Debian/Ubuntu based distros, if you can't find something in Synaptic you can search for a .deb of the program you're looking for. Think of it as a .msi for Windows, you double click it and it has a button to install. Very easy.

I suggest searching for the program you can't find here

Re:Speed is important...

[Yfrwlf]

Yes, it should be, and you shouldn't have to look for DEB packages if you're on a Linux distro using a deb-only package manager or a RPM if you're on one using a RPM-only manager. All package managers should be made compatible with at least one format(preferably more) so Linux software installation is simple, instead of Linux users having to hit website after website of software where the developers never bothered to release some kind of binary because of this mess, or they release a binary which isn't a normal package, and even if it does it doesn't contain the information inside it for a URL for automatic updates. Instead us Linux users often have to deal with out-of-date software because we're stuck waiting on our distro maintainer to specially package everything under the sun we could ever want, which is impossible, and which gives certain larger distros an unfair advantage. Or, we have to compile it, which limits the numbers of Linux users greatly because obviously normal users don't know how and most users don't want to bother with doing it even if they do know. So, yeah, I'd say it was a big problem.

Can read why Linux software installation sucks part one and two, and read about two projects hoping to make it better in the future.

Re:Speed is important...

[Yfrwlf]

The OP is talking about being able to install any Linux software easily, not just DEB packages. This is entirely possible, but because either the formats are full of fail, or the package managers are, or something, no one could make at least SOME manager compatible with most of the most popular package formats, or no one could make one package format which could be used by any of the managers. This is beyond retarded, there's no reason for it other than possibly the greed of bigger distros wanting the size of their repos to be one of the factors for attracting users, and needs to be quickly overcome. This is the kind of stupid fragmentation that doesn't make sense that Linux does not need right now. See my reply to the OP for links and more information.

A package manager should be as easy to use as an archive manager. Want to install some new software that came out in some new package format? Just install a plugin, or an updated version of your manager, and you're on your way. That's how Linux packaging should be.

Re:Speed is important...

[xenocide2]

Fundamentally, a binary package is a set of files to be installed in specific locations. Those specific locations are built into relationships between files, both within packages and between packages. Between packages is an important part of the equation -- it allows the entire system to run a set of shared binary libraries. If every application carried it's own version of gtk or other libraries and didn't share RAM, the modern desktop would be unworkable.

What companies want is a single binary to run on "Linux", the way a single binary runs on "Windows". But it's not just a matter of writing alien, which can convert RPM binary archives into .deb archives. You need binary compatible libraries!

Re:Speed is important...

[atraintocry]

There's more than just Ubuntu out there. Distros like Vector, Arch and Puppy are pretty slim. Arch doesn't even install with X, so you can really tailor things to what you want. Including using lighter login & window managers.

I hope people don't just look at linux as "fast windows". It's Unix-y, it's open...there's a lot more to it than just performance.

Re:Speed is important...

[atraintocry]

This is the kind of stupid fragmentation that doesn't make sense that Linux does not need right now.

C'mon, it's not a war. If every linux developer jumped ship tomorrow, the code would still be there. And the linux style of package management has its history and its advantages. Not that there aren't improvements to be made, but if the OP wants Windows, he should install Windows. MSIs are nice, but prior to Windows installer, installing software was pretty crappy and inconsistent. Uninstalls, if they were even possible, depended solely on the app author to work correctly.

Re:Speed is important...

[the_one(2)]

they could just do what they do in windows... distribute the libraries with the programs...

Re:Speed is important...

[atraintocry]

Unfortunately sometimes you just have to build it. If you're only ever relying on what other people have built for other systems, you're going to run across compatibility problem sometimes. I had an experience like he had with Lightscribe drivers.

This is why people rail against binary blobs. Everyone replies with "what's the harm?"...but everyone's going to get bitten hard by a situation like that, and most of the time it's because they didn't have option of just building from source.

Which, by the way, usually completely painless. You don't have to be a coder or anything.

The LSB looks pretty promising though. I don't have much experience with it, and it sounds pretty business/ISV oriented ("get certified d00ds!"), but maybe we'll see more packages being built against it.

Re:Speed is important...

[ratboy666]

Blice

Panel using CPU cycles in Gnome? Sure, it must be significant. So, for your viewing pleasure, "top" on Fedora 9, Gnome, running on a Thinkpad T43 with 1.5G of RAM. Running with Sticky Notes, Search, a Drawer, Insert Char, Lock, Force Quit, Brightness, Encrypt, SSH selector, XKill, Volume, Date, Network, Bluetooth, Desktop Search, Updater, Firefox, Email, Word Processor, Spreadsheet, Presenter in the upper panel, and Show Desktop, CPU Speed, Load and Virtual Desktops in the lower panel.

Sure, the panel things may be processes (see the 150 total, but they really aren't taking any CPU. (I do run Fedora on a Panasonic Toughbook as well -- only 400Mhz PII, but this was the lappy I have with me on this trip).

Tasks: 150 total, 1 running, 149 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 15.6%us, 8.2%sy, 4.4%ni, 55.2%id, 16.2%wa, 0.1%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 1553868k total, 986592k used, 567276k free, 61004k buffers
Swap: 2031608k total, 0k used, 2031608k free, 520864k cached

    PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
  2583 root 20 0 146m 49m 18m S 3.9 3.3 1:11.27 X
  2087 root 20 0 9520 1672 668 S 1.9 0.1 0:00.02 sendmail
  5467 fred 20 0 130m 22m 12m S 1.9 1.5 0:06.49 gnome-terminal
22364 fred 20 0 2268 932 696 R 1.9 0.1 0:00.01 top
        1 root 20 0 2112 632 540 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.99 init
        2 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
        3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
        4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 ksoftirqd/0
        5 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
        6 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.41 events/0
        7 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
      59 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.12 kblockd/0
      61 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
      62 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpi_notify
    143 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cqueue
    145 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksuspend_usbd
    150 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd
[fred@localhost ~]$

Re:Speed is important...

[meringuoid]

But when I see Ubuntu and it boots slower than XP and... Well, feels slower than XP, I have to facepalm. Linux is supposed to be the faster one, it's supposed to be the one where you can say "Man, you use XP? It's so slow! Use Linux!", but with Ubuntu you can't really say that.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

XP is seven years old. It came out a few days after Red Hat 7.2. It's entitled to boot faster than an OS from 2008.

Which it doesn't by the way, not on my machine anyway. I get to a desktop faster on XP, but it's a long while before it's finished housekeeping and deigns to let me actually do anything. Ubuntu takes longer to give me a desktop, but once it does so I'm free to use it; Linux would never lie to me, and in fact cannot talk.

Re:Speed is important...

[uhlume]

It will focus on improving boot times and the convergence of desktop and web.

Wait, they're remaking Win98?

Re:Speed is important...

[corerunner]

Speed is the reason I use Xubuntu, even on my relatively new ThinkPad X61 Tablet and 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo workstation. Xfce is definitely faster than XP.

Re:Speed is important...

[Anonymous Coward]

Hi.

Thank you for your post. It's really interesting and I didn't know about it.

It's cool to see that there is a good-looking alternative at xfce.

I bookmarked those links and I hope I'll test those ideas of yours some day.

Dest.

Re:Speed is important...

[Knuckles]

What companies want is a single binary to run on "Linux", the way a single binary runs on "Windows".

Yeah, they can have that right now by exactly the same means as they use in Windows: static linking.

Re:Speed is important...

[BJH]

Works better if you sort it by CPU time used:

top - 22:02:17 up 5 days, 23:13, 19 users, load average: 0.28, 0.26, 0.27
Tasks: 223 total, 1 running, 221 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 1.3%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.7%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 3630100k total, 3473968k used, 156132k free, 145480k buffers
Swap: 3903672k total, 39840k used, 3863832k free, 2296584k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
6813 bjh 20 0 557m 347m 36m S 3 9.8 1222:12 firefox
6458 root 20 0 131m 94m 16m S 1 2.7 330:21.98 Xorg
1 root 20 0 2844 1692 544 S 0 0.0 228:03.78 init
2668 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 191:17.06 usb-storage
3146 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 178:38.71 md5_raid1
2978 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 115:47.71 md4_raid1
7421 bjh 20 0 5724 3464 1508 S 0 0.1 61:05.06 bash
6944 bjh 20 0 21212 8680 7304 S 1 0.2 59:21.30 multiload-apple
7589 bjh 20 0 5732 3484 1524 S 0 0.1 16:13.03 bash
7196 bjh 20 0 100m 24m 12m S 0 0.7 15:47.70 gnome-terminal
6775 bjh 20 0 99840 35m 19m S 0 1.0 14:02.21 gnome-panel
4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 12:23.80 ksoftirqd/0
7297 bjh 20 0 73296 38m 14m S 0 1.1 10:09.28 sylpheed
7846 bjh 20 0 75544 37m 19m S 0 1.1 7:20.20 jd
7 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 5:51.00 ksoftirqd/1
6774 bjh 20 0 47280 16m 10m S 0 0.5 5:23.66 metacity
7695 bjh 20 0 12436 6588 4304 S 0 0.2 5:23.28 rtorrent
7739 bjh 20 0 82144 23m 11m S 0 0.6 5:02.84 gnome-terminal
7884 bjh 20 0 4992 2116 1700 S 0 0.1 4:40.06 ssh
2394 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 4:39.19 scsi_eh_6
6773 bjh 20 0 15900 5424 3940 S 0 0.1 4:13.73 gnome-screensav
7217 bjh 20 0 60880 21m 11m S 0 0.6 3:51.93 gnome-terminal
2956 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 3:40.95 md1_raid1
6809 bjh 20 0 38404 2012 1592 S 0 0.1 3:24.97 gvfs-fuse-daemo
7848 bjh 20 0 146m

Re:Speed is important...

[badkarmadayaccount]

I totaly agree. I tried runing ubuntu 8.04 on my five y.o. FSC AMILO laptop, and it whent -- cah, caahhh! Capluh!! -- and i had to reboot. Of course i immediatly 'uninstaled' ubuntu the second i loged on (my beloved) XP.

Disclaimer: I'm dual-booting PCLO 2007 and Debian Etch on my other one.

Cheers,

Tihomir

Re:Speed is important...

[Yfrwlf]

If binaries aren't modular like they should be, then clearly someone didn't list their dependencies correctly, or someone found a problem with one of the libraries which should then be ironed out. All libraries should have clear, solid APIs which have room for expansion. I think you're confusing "binary blobs", what is meant by that is a blob of something in which you cannot touch, which is up to some closed company to maintain so it can't be easily worked on by whoever is complaining about it because they don't have the source code to look at. So, they are complaining about closed source software, not binaries. Everything you run is a binary, and probably 99% of all software that is ever downloaded is in binary. Users should never have to compile a kernel or OpenOffice or X unless they want to, and if you demand that from them Linux will never overtake Windows and Mac, and that's something I want to happen and I'm going to help it happen, so no, telling everyone to compile is never acceptable unless someone wants to.

TFS? (n/t)

[Mateo_LeFou]

sad days...

Re:TFS? (n/t)

[gEvil (beta)]

I see two things wrong with your post--no verb for the initialism in the subject line, and there is in fact text in your post, despite the (n/t) in the subject line.

Grade: C-

Re:"M" is for Moronic

[Anonymous Coward]

but we've had hardy hairon already!

Re:What happened to "I"?

[Lostlander]

...read the last sentence of TFS.

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Incontinent Ibex...

[Anonymous Coward]

Cancelled due to 'memory leaks'.

Ubuntu's marketing department

[Cro Magnon]

must have nixed "Jaunty Jackass". :(

Re:Ubuntu's marketing department

[Reziac]

The_r alphabet _s a l_ttle strange.

Or maybe "_cky _chthyosaur" lacked the r_ght resonance?

I'm waiting for Yiffy Yak

[vadim_t]

Now that will be AWESOME, even though a yiffy yak sounds like a very scary thing.

Any 5 year old will tell you...

[Overzeetop]

... that a jackalope is easily recognizable from his debut in Pixar's Boundin' short.

Thanks Slashdot!

[The MAZZTer]

I never would have guessed that 9.04 (IE 04/2009) would be coming next April.

Re:Thanks Slashdot!

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh yeah, well I heard they announced a release for 04/3009 too. What version number is that going to be, smarty pants?

Re:Thanks Slashdot!

[Anonymous Coward]

Not everybody is aware that Ubuntu uses the release date as the version name. That isn't exactly normal procedure.

Re:You have to be fucking joking

[timberwolf753]

Lol Your troll thread equals = Fail.

Don't you know your Dr. Seuss?

[sconeu]

It's a Yawning Yellow Yak

(and Young Yolanda Yorgenson is yelling on his back)

Please fix bugs in 8.04

[Anonymous Coward]

Please fix bugs in 8.04 first.

• Encrypted LUKS filesystems won't boot
• Firefox can't upload pictures to ebay or flickr.

Re:Please fix bugs in 8.04

[fprintf]

Agreed. Please fix broken Sleep/Hibernate modes.

Re:Please fix bugs in 8.04

[martinw89]

A lot of sleep or hibernate issues are most likely due to upstream bugs / missing features. One of the main points of each Ubuntu release is to get a package refresh and determine the best mix of these packages. Many sleep and hibernate issues will most likely be fixed by better hardware support in the newer kernel. "Fixing" broken sleep/hibernate issues in the current Ubuntu version would actually hold back progress.

Re:Please fix bugs in 8.04

[Anonymous Coward]

A lot of sleep or hibernate issues are most likely due to upstream bugs / missing features.

No one's forcing them to bump kernel versions without testing more rigorously.

Many sleep and hibernate issues will most likely be fixed by better hardware support in the newer kernel.

That's a two way street. I have had upgrading to newer kernels break previously working suspend and hibernate.

"Fixing" broken sleep/hibernate issues in the current Ubuntu version would actually hold back progress.

You could say that about any bugfix. Just because a bug doesn't affect you personally, doesn't mean it should be ignored to rush a new version out the door.

Re:"M" is for Moronic

[Anonymous Coward]

hairy hardon!?

Oh, man!

[Anonymous Coward]

Damn it, just when I was getting used to Indignant Idiot and Happy Harry Hard-on!

Next One?

[Anonymous Coward]

What's the name of 9.10 going to be? My vote goes to "Krappy Konqueror".

Aaging Aardvark

[Anonymous Coward]

:)

Killer Koala

[Arthur B.]

please be next !

Better J names

[jimmy_dean]

1. Jumping Joey
2. Jaded Jackal
3. Justice Jaguar

Re:Better J names

[confusedneutrino]

I prefer Jugulating Jaguar.

Re:Better J names

[jimmy_dean]

Nice, I like that! :) Alliterations are fun!

Annual release naming

[tepples]

If you're doing almost exactly one release per year, it's actually not at all bad as a naming convention.

At least it works for EA's Madden NFL product.

Re:Annual release naming

[Kjella]

At least it works for EA's Madden NFL product.

That they have a major revision every year is not surprising. That they're able to sell it as a completely new game rather than a simple roster update is what's surprising.

Ubuntu EEE

[CFBMoo1]

Released 8.04.1 over the weekend. It's got Netbook Remix and great support for the EEE. I'm running it on a 1000 40G right now and there are still some minor tweeks but for the most part it works way better then the current vanilla Ubuntu. That said, I'm going to try the 8.10 release when they send it out the doors.

Re:Ubuntu EEE

[Anonymous Coward]

From their homepage:

Ubuntu Eee is...an operating system...which [sic] favors the best software available instead of open source alternatives (ie. Skype instead of Ekiga). Sounds great!

Yeah...no thanks!

Ubuntu 10

[grayn0de]

Krusty Krab... complete with SpongeBob Theme and loading wav. Think about it. What better way to get the younger generations to learn *nix? :)

Sub notebooks

[The Gaytriot]

I'm glad they are going to support the sub notebooks more, I've been holding off on installing Ubuntu on my Aspire One for a couple reasons. A lot of tweaking needs to be done to get decent functionality, but a few things still aren't working quite right. Also, the boot time and battery life while using Ubuntu compared to the lighter distros is pretty bad.

The Linpus Lite distro that comes on the Acer Aspire One is up and ready to go in about 15-20 seconds, including connecting to a Wireless Network. I just wish I had a full powered OS so I could run all the software I want, Linpus is gimped, even after lots of tweaking.

On a separate note:

I've installed Hardy Heron on my main computer (dual boot with XP) as well as my dad's computer. I'm even thinking about putting it on my friend's computer ever since she has started complaining about slowness. It seems like it would be perfect for her minus the one drawback, she can't have her iTunes for her iPod.

Are there any programs to synch up an iPod with Ubuntu?

Re:Sub notebooks

[Tteddo]

Amarok and Rythmbox both recognize the iPod. Altho there are some issues with iTunes afterword. There are a bunch of forum entries for iPods in the Ubuntu Forums.

Ubuntu/PPC Community Needed

[Doc Ruby]

Canonical, the corporation that owns the Ubuntu distro (ie, Red Hat Inc's and Microsoft's direct competitor), has dropped official support of PowerPC from its work. Which means that PPC architecture versions of Ubuntu are falling behind, even to the point where the kernel in the latest releases cannot boot on PPC machines. PPC isn't just old Macs and powerful dedicated workstations. It's also the main core in many supercomputers, lots of embedded CPU devices, and the Sony PS3. Those machines need more active work to keep Ubuntu working on them.

But PPC is still supported as part of the Ubuntu project as a community effort, which is what Open Source is all about. If you've got some spare cycles, or even better some independently developed PPC code, to help Ubuntu keep running on the PowerPC architecture, please join the people supporting the community distro.

Re:Ubuntu/PPC Community Needed

[badkarmadayaccount]

Debian has a GNU/NetBSD version. Cant ubuntu be rebuilt on top of NetBSD and shoehorn pkgsrc as an alternate package manager? Honestly, an Ubuntu user doesnt give a shit abut benchmarks.

Re:Ubuntu/PPC Community Needed

[Doc Ruby]

But then Linux programs won't work on that hybrid, because they mostly call the Linux kernel (for even filesystem access, network access, etc). The point isn't just to get some OS to work on the PPC. The point is to get the required apps to work on the PPC, which requires an OS. There's a lot more, and a lot more up-to-date, apps for Linux than for NetBSD.

I used NetBSD for years until I switched to Linux, because Linux has the apps. NetBSD was (and largely still is) a better OS in terms of performance, full functionality, internal engineering, and portability (and of course it "runs everywhere"). But those don't matter if the apps don't run on it.

To be specific, I want to run Ubuntu on my PS3, which has a Cell that runs apps on its PPC core. If Ubuntu doesn't get more PPC developers, the Linux kernel won't continue to run on PS3. Ubuntu's desktop is the best for PS3, because it's simple and includes all kinds of SW that uses the PS3 HW, especially the Blu-Ray player and other multimedia. Plus Ubuntu is used more than other distros on PCs that are used to do things that PS3 has better HW for. So NetBSD on PS3 doesn't cut it, even though that might be a better platform for writing new apps. And the same is true for lots of other PPC platforms, including embedded ones supporting multimedia GUIs.

I'd like to use Ubuntu ...

[Anonymous Coward]

I've tried using it from the LiveCD on both my PC and my laptop for the last few versions (from 'Feisty Fawn' I believe) and I still wind up having to hack the Xorg.conf file for Widescreen monitor / video card support. I've had to Google to try and find out the arcane hsync/vysnc numbers for my specific monitors, and then had to determine which of the video drivers (all named after ancient video cards) might actually work.

It's great they've got fun names, and a plan of rolling out new versions, but until it 'just works' out-of-the-box on a stock (also out-of-the-box) HP or Dell computer there is no way it's going to be more than just another nifty Linux distro, fun to play with but won't replace my standard PC or Mac for day-in-day-out computing.

Re:I'd like to use Ubuntu ...

[Anonymous Coward]

Lets see, where to begin... ah, 'just works' out-of-the-box HP/Dell. Dell now offers computers preloaded with ubuntu. They work, when you take them out of the box.

Next, Feisty is now nearly a year and a half old. Since then there have been two full releases. The xorg interface has been improved - you shouldn't have to manually edit xorg.conf anymore. And if you do manually edit xorg and screw up it falls back to a default instead of kicking you to a command line. Personally I have a widescreen monitor and it's worked perfectly on a standard install since edgy. Maybe you have an arcane monitor if you still have to manually find and input arcane driver information?

And finally Ubuntu worked as much as I needed it to out-of-the-box for me on my Dell laptop on Edgy. Wireless failed, but I wasn't using wireless at the time so it really didn't matter - and since then wireless has started working. Obviously what works will vary greatly depending on your hardware... but by now most common, modern hardware (with notable exceptions...) "just works" as much on Ubuntu as on Vista if not more.

So... I'm not sure what your point is. "It doesn't work perfectly for me so it sucks"?

Darn, when is ManBearPig coming?

[Spinlock_1977]

I want to see Al Gore get involved. How about a ManBearPig release?

Stupid names

[swordgeek]

OK, I've installed Ubuntu for a few friends who want to escape MS-land. They all like the OS, the features, the ease-of-use. The name, however, is a source of embarassment. "I'm running WHAT??!!!" "Don't worry, just call it...6.10."

Seriously, the naming was arguably a cute idea at the beginning, but it's become a little cult of "what will the next goofy name be?" It's time to drop it.

(Yeah, I know I'm a curmudgeon. You should hear what I sound like when I'm NOT being polite)

Re:Stupid names

[Swampash]

In every conversation I have had that involves Ubuntu and its versions, everyone usually just uses the adjective half of the name as a reference to the version. Like, "have you put Hardy on that box?" "nup. Feisty is running fine".

Re:Stupid names

[Knuckles]

Where do you see any code names? http://www.ubuntu.com/
Don't blame Ubuntu if you are talking geek to non-geek friends. Do you also tell them that they run Longhorn on Conroe?

Re:Speed freaks

[citylivin]

I dont get you speed freaks. Who cares how fast the os boots if you never have to reboot it?

Desktop/Web Convergence

[SuseLover]

I'll take my desktop separate from the web thank you. As if active desktop wasn't bad enough, when will they learn.

Am I missing something ...

[w0mprat]

Or did they skip 'I' in the alphabetical naming of Ubuntu releases: Edgy Eft Feisty Fawn Gutsy Gibbon Hardy Heron I.... I...? Jaundiced Jackeroo or whatever it is.. Intrepid Iguana? Inconsolable Iriomote?

Re:Am I missing something ...

[Anonymous Coward]

Intrepid Ibex is coming out in October. Jaunty Jackalope is next after that.

Re:Am I missing something ...

[cuby]

Man, Intrepid Ibex will be the 8.10 ;)

First Fictitious Animal - is it significant?

[billstewart]

If this were April 1, I'd have no problem with an announcement that the name's "Jaunty Jackalope". Are we going to end up with unicorns and sidehill goats, or perhaps dragons? Or is that just a placeholder for the _real_ J release?

Re:First Fictitious Animal - is it significant?

[touchy_kernel]

How about Masticating Mammoth?

Don't confuse change with progress

[mangu]

geeks like Unix, so we should be stuck in the 1970s until the end of time

It has been said that the cave geek who invented the wheel made it square. Then another cave geek improved it, making it triangular: one less bump per turn.

Repeat after me: not every change is for the better.

Re:Speed freaks

[atraintocry]

Some of us pay for electricity ;)

Summary is (+1, Informative)

[mangu]

Most of the people I met who have ever heard of Ubuntu do not know where the version numbering scheme comes from. Specifying that version 9.04 means it will be released in 2009/04 is always a good thing.

About version numbering, my personal favorite is the TeX system: version numbers approach Pi asymptotically. Stupid, but still smarter than most other systems.

Why is this on Slashdot?

[Anonymous Coward]

A release is news. Plans about a release are not.

we need a new mod tag

[sir fer]

+1 Comedy Gold

Version names

[Anonymous Coward]

They are having way too much fun coming up with version names.

Can i suggest..

[zmollusc]

.. Piss-stained Parrot, when we get to that letter? I don't know why I like the idea so much, but I do.
The wallpaper would be great, too.
Piss-stained Parrot. Doesn't it sound good?

Nunchuking Norris

[agendi]

Ubuntu Nunchuking Norris, I hear it can run on any hardware ever made and even the stuff that isn't.

Re:Speed freaks

[Anonymous Coward]

That's what standby/hibernate are for. I don't know how well it works under Ubuntu, but I never turn off my XP laptop. If it's plugged in, it goes to standby after an hour. If it runs low on battery or I press the power button, it hibernates.

Re: Shope Papillomavirus

[Spiralis Fractus]

Real "jackalopes" are just deformed rabbits that have [sometimes fatal] "antler-like" tumors caused by a Shope papillomavirus infection. So, Canonical is naming one of their releases after a deformed, diseased, dying animal. Tempting the Fates are they?

Re: Re-Inversion

[Spiralis Fractus]

The hierarchs of the medieval Christian church provided themselves with lives of royal luxury by controlling the masses with guilt and fear of damnation. Convince a man that anything that makes him happy is a deadly sin and he is your puppet. The core Satanic notion is the simple rejection of the guilt that the medieval Christian hierarchs used to subdue and control the masses. Satanists view the Christian notion of sin as deviously antithetical to human nature, and therefore as antithetical to happiness. As Satanists view Christianity as an inversion of human nature, they view an inversion of guilt-ridden Christianity to be a return to happiness. Satanists may be a little misguided in this re-inversion at times, but they do manage to successfully reject the absurd notion of sin as formulated by the greedy hierarchs of the medieval church.

Hear Problems.

[Anonymous Coward]

  Enjoyed using Hardy Heron, but now it is running as a partition...why?

1: For some reason the laptop on minimum is OVERHEATING - did everything, changed everything, but there is some bug, and laptop just melts after basic usage.

2: Games - Much much betterWINE support, or no go.

3: Clean windows Xp starts in seconds compare to Ubuntu.

Damn, I was rooting for

[LM741N]

"Smelly Skunk" since they never have patched my critical bug filed up in the 20,000's 3 release cycles ago.

Re:"M" is for Moronic

[Anonymous Coward]

I always thought it was "Hardon Harry".

w00t Wyoming!

[j3w]

We're home of the jackalope! (and although imaginary they out number us by at least 2:1)

you've got a choice

[speedtux]

If you want less bloat, faster boot times, etc. you can install a different version of Linux. DSL boots almost instantaneously. Xubuntu is a lot faster and less bloated than Ubuntu.

With Windows, your only choice is obsolete and fast or up-to-date and bloated. With Linux, you can choose different tradeoffs and still run up-to-date, maintained software.

Re:Speed freaks

[atraintocry]

True, true. But just be careful that XP isn't silently defaulting to S1.