Your cherry-picked YouTube propaganda do not change the reality that was documented by numerous major news organizations.
Are those the same news organizations that told us how there were "WMD's" in Iraq?
I'm linking to the seattle.gov web page.
Bullshit. You know very well that many downtown businesses suffered major physical damage.
No, they did not. Most of them lost money because it was the peak shopping season. Some were damaged. Unless you choose to define "major physical damage" as "broken windows".
I'll just stick to the facts. You can have your claims.
Like I said, there are many symbols that you do not know how to interpret. Now you are disagreeing with that.
Fine, if you want to claim that you understand every symbol, you can claim that.
Because although everyone knew what it meant they still chose not to riot.
Fascinating.
So it's always a symbol that everyone understands the same as you do... but 99.9% of the time everyone just decides not to act as if it were a symbol. And instead they act as if it were just some vandal.
But if they implemented a.lsb standard, wouldn't that save time for everyone? The programmer runs a script that compiles his program and creates the.lsb package and everyone downloads that.
Now if the LSB wants to help, they'd help writing standard scripts for programmers to use to do just that.
4 - There need to be better standards for where files are kept. This is a major failing of the FHS in Linux, because of the redundancy and exceptions, one distro will put something in/opt and then another in/bin or/sbin and it gets ridiculous.
Major agreement. It seems that they pillaged every *nix out there for its file directory.
Why?
Why not look at the most complicated set-up there is in Linux and standardize THAT in the MINIMUM number of mandatory directories? And to your list I'll add/media and/mnt. If you really NEED to distinguish between temporarily mounted LOCAL media and REMOTE media then make a single directory with two sub-directories.
What about/srv? Have you EVER seen an app put anything there? Why does it exist if NOTHING uses it? Which gets back to your/opt example. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and NOTHING is in/opt.
1 - I'd love to see one major package management system. 2 - It shouldn't care if the package is a.deb or a.rpm, though the distinction there shouldn't be necessary anymore..deb was created because of problems with.rpm that don't really exist anymore, and the LSB does say people are supposed to standardize around.rpm, though it certainly wouldn't be impossible for one package manager to read both.deb and.rpm files.
Sort of agreement.
I'd prefer that the LSB publish a standard for packaging (packages that end in.LSB instead of.deb or.rpm) and wait for the various package management systems to incorporate that standard. So I could use apt to install.deb OR.lsb packages.
So if the software vendor publishes a.lsb package it should work on your LSB-compliant system.
3 - Package management should know how to handle source packages with a recipe/ebuild/instructions to build it from source.
That is FAR more complicated. It would be nice to have, but it would also require a compiler be part of the base system for the LSB.
5 - Linux will never have much of a coordinated marketing effort because it is so fragmented, but the Linux foundation could work with and encourage marketing for each major distro to help raise visibility of the brand.
Maybe. I'm less concerned about marketing than functionality at this point. If you build it right, and keep it FREE, it will gain marketshare.
I haven't tried America's Army. Do the players on one team appear different to the opposing team than they do to themselves?
I suggest that while my character appear as a normal human character TO ME that to anyone assigned to an opposing quest I appear as a regular orc.
That way, you would never know whether the monster was machine AI or human driven.
You can also extend this to larger groups. The Knights of X appear as human to each other and themselves... but to the Heroes of Y they appear as various monsters. And the reverse is also true. Even to the various villages and castles that they occupy.
The only problem with this is that a quest to kill 5 orcs can be VERY difficult for new characters. Those "orcs" could be veteran players with years of experience (and items).
So the average gamer has no influence on real-world events... but they do have some degree of influence in game.
Therefore, document the influence you have in the game! It's kind of like making it into the history books... kind of.
It's for people like me.
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Who already own "sed and awk" and buy a book that is supposedly about Bash scripting only to find out that the advanced section replicates what is in the sed and awk book. Which is very annoying.
Not that it's a bad book. I just believe that it should have been more focused on Bash only scripting.
If you want to learn about sed and awk, buy the sed and awk book. If you want to learn Bash scripting, there are a LOT of more useful sites online.
Local groups sharing between themselves. Able to physically meet and verify each other.
At the borders of that group, individuals physically moving material between groups. Very easy now with portable hard drives of a terabyte or more.
So instead of material being available instantly... it will be available in 7 days to anyone, anywhere. Because we all know that there are only 7 degrees of separation between any two people.
If you are learning SECURITY then the first lesson is that the PEOPLE are the weakest link.
You need to design systems that minimize the human error portion. That means designing systems where it is possible to tell the "good" code from the "bad" code. Where the average user can run an app to identify the "good" code from the "bad" code.
Where the warnings are sufficiently rare that the average user is NOT trained to just click "accept" when one pops up.
But anyone who showed that it could be done would be arrested and spend serious jail time.
This is all theatre. It's so the TSA can justify their budget. It's all a joke. If a terrorist wanted to make a point now, he'd drive a car bomb into an airport terminal during a major holiday rush.
We could go back to the "pre-9/11" screenings IF we made sure that every plane had a flight deck door that was secured against anyone in the passenger section getting through it for long enough for the pilot to make an emergency landing.
If you own your own domain (or manage one) you can create a fake address and use it ONLY for that specific site. Then unsubscribe it. Then label anything that gets delivered to it as spam.
The reason this is "2nd degree" is that you actively subscribe it.
The "1st degree" spam traps would be ones that you never subscribed to anything.
As far as I am concerned, I never tried compiling Apache on Redhat and installing the resulting binary on Ubuntu/Slackware/YDL/.... That would be interesting indeed. Please try that and if it works I'll reconsider my opinion.
How stupid are you? Oh, I get it. You're some uninformed kid who's trying to dig himself out of the hole he's argued himself into.
I copied Apache from Debian Sid to Ubuntu Hardy Heron. It worked.
I copied Apache from Fedora 9 to Ubuntu Hardy Heron. It worked.
Looks like you don't know shit about what you're talking about. But what did I expect?
Keep you witty comments for yourself
Why? It amuses me to mock kids like you in public. I have facts, you have your opinions. Sucks to be you.
And VMWare RECOMPILES A MODULE FOR EACH INSTALL YOU DO. Did you follow that part? Can you guess why?
It's funny because you keep trying to bail yourself out with rhetorical questions. Because you don't know the answers and you're hoping that I don't, either.
Sucks to be you. The modules get recompiled because they need the exact kernel version number. That's all. That's why the same code will compile on each kernel update. 100% of the code is the same.
Let me guess, you're still living in Mom's basement.
I remember working on a product for Linux..
Yeah, sure you did. LOL
What would YOU do, sir, in this case?
I'd stop trying to pretend that you know anything about what you're talking about.
You're confusing 3rd party libraries and the vendor's support for them with Linux.
Linux is the GPL'd portion. You can fix bugs in Linux.
With a vendor, you're fucked. And if you DID work on such a project you would KNOW that. LOLx2
It's not whether the code works or not, it's that the code MIGHT not work on other platforms.
Keep talking. It's hilarious.:)
So Linux is "fragmented" because your 3rd party vendor's EULA states that they only support Red Hat 4. LOLx3
And, as I've already shown, Apache DOES work. But feel free to say that it MIGHT not. LOLx4
Repeat after me: for most projects, recompiling on every platform is not an option. There are hundreds of them. And I'm not even talking about testing them.
LOLx5
But... somehow... Apache can handle it. And Samba. And BIND. And dozens of OTHER apps.
But YOU... you have PROBLEMS... therefore Linux is "fragmented".
LOLx5
When a thousand other people are doing exactly what you claim CANNOT be done... sorry, I'm going to have to go with the thousand who can do it. Sucks to be you. LOLx6
It's even more true when you depends on libraries that aren't available on all platforms.
It's like you're retarded or something. You CANNOT see the difference between your 3rd party vendor's EULA and Linux.
Oh, it's because you're too stupid to understand the difference, isn't it?
The solution? Simply put a certificate that represents not a distro, but a set of components that are guaranteed to work in a consistent manner among many distro.
The LSB have been trying that since 1998.
They've failed for 10 years.
Yet people like you (stupid people) STILL claim that the LSB is needed because Apache and Samba and others CANNOT do what they've been doing for YEARS.
I have facts. You have your opinions.
The facts contradict your opinions.
Linux is NOT the same as a 3rd party vendor's EULA.
Apache, Samba and BIND are using autoconf and recompiled for every distro. Also, they have a package and are part of repositories. Not the case with many proprietary vendors...
So? Fragmentation would be when they did NOT work.
Since they DO work, that is not fragmentation.
I agree VMWare works on most major distribution (it recompiles the kernel module, which it shouldn't have to), although I'm sure it won't work on every YDL or shady distros out there.
Yeah... so it does work.
Again, fragmentation would be when it did NOT work. Not when it DOES work. Okay?
Also, IIRC, they have specific distros for their technical support services. Guess why...
Why are you bringing that up? If the code runs, the code runs. You're trying to introduce things like EULA because... ?
And since you've already admitted to the fact that they DO run...
There is no fragmentation and the GPL still rocks.
Softimage's XSI, VMWare, many other softwares that can't be recompiled, tested and tech supported in many distros or that need libs that are guaranteed on a platform.
I don't know about you, but I have run VMWare server and workstation on Red Hat, SuSE and Ubuntu.
Yes, I have. I'm still running VMWare server on my Ubuntu box (Hardy Heron). It works. I have to run a script every time I upgrade the kernel, but that is all.
I have also run Apache, Samba, BIND and many others on different distributions. Without any problems.
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Really? So how does a student see a "mistake" after learning Creationism? What does said student "learn" from that "mistake"?
No, you cannot. Not in a high school science class.
If you want to teach Creationism, then you do it a class on comparative religions.
NOT in a science class.
And when you want to teach BOTH in a science class you will only confuse the issue MORE.
SCIENCE is taught in a science class. Not religion.
Why do you have a problem with that?
Will old people at the bus stop be killed by predator drones because their walk is 95% similar to OBL's?
Are those the same news organizations that told us how there were "WMD's" in Iraq?
I'm linking to the seattle.gov web page.
No, they did not. Most of them lost money because it was the peak shopping season. Some were damaged. Unless you choose to define "major physical damage" as "broken windows".
I'll just stick to the facts. You can have your claims.
Like I said, there are many symbols that you do not know how to interpret. Now you are disagreeing with that.
Fine, if you want to claim that you understand every symbol, you can claim that.
Fascinating.
So it's always a symbol that everyone understands the same as you do ... but 99.9% of the time everyone just decides not to act as if it were a symbol. And instead they act as if it were just some vandal.
Yeah, you go with that.
http://www.seattle.gov/wtocommittee/history.htm
And the facts contradict your claimed experience.
The videos are still available. Check YouTube for them.
Then why has there not been a riot in Seattle when those other windows were broken?
Well I am glad to excluded from your "everyone" in that case.
The fact is that there are MANY symbols that you would have no idea what they meant.
Argue that point if you want to. But it's a fact.
Looks like you lose.
If the police had treated them as any other vandals, there would not have been a problem.
The problem with symbols is that they depend upon interpretation.
And the interpretation depends upon the viewpoint of the person doing the interpretation.
Like I said, there have been broken bottles and windows ever since. And not once has it resulted in a riot.
That is because it is interpreted as plain old "vandalism" rather than "inciting a crowd to riot".
And it is handled correctly.
Bottles are broken every single day.
I see a different broken window at local businesses at least once a month.
Those events do not cause riots.
They are "minor". They are resolved by arresting / fining the idiot(s) who did it.
I am also in Seattle.
But if they implemented a .lsb standard, wouldn't that save time for everyone? The programmer runs a script that compiles his program and creates the .lsb package and everyone downloads that.
Now if the LSB wants to help, they'd help writing standard scripts for programmers to use to do just that.
Major agreement. It seems that they pillaged every *nix out there for its file directory.
Why?
Why not look at the most complicated set-up there is in Linux and standardize THAT in the MINIMUM number of mandatory directories? And to your list I'll add /media and /mnt. If you really NEED to distinguish between temporarily mounted LOCAL media and REMOTE media then make a single directory with two sub-directories.
What about /srv? Have you EVER seen an app put anything there? Why does it exist if NOTHING uses it? Which gets back to your /opt example. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and NOTHING is in /opt.
Sort of agreement.
I'd prefer that the LSB publish a standard for packaging (packages that end in .LSB instead of .deb or .rpm) and wait for the various package management systems to incorporate that standard. So I could use apt to install .deb OR .lsb packages.
So if the software vendor publishes a .lsb package it should work on your LSB-compliant system.
That is FAR more complicated. It would be nice to have, but it would also require a compiler be part of the base system for the LSB.
Maybe. I'm less concerned about marketing than functionality at this point. If you build it right, and keep it FREE, it will gain marketshare.
I haven't tried America's Army. Do the players on one team appear different to the opposing team than they do to themselves?
I suggest that while my character appear as a normal human character TO ME that to anyone assigned to an opposing quest I appear as a regular orc.
That way, you would never know whether the monster was machine AI or human driven.
You can also extend this to larger groups. The Knights of X appear as human to each other and themselves ... but to the Heroes of Y they appear as various monsters. And the reverse is also true. Even to the various villages and castles that they occupy.
The only problem with this is that a quest to kill 5 orcs can be VERY difficult for new characters. Those "orcs" could be veteran players with years of experience (and items).
Who says that EVERYONE has to appear the same to EVERYONE else?
Your quest (team Z) is to kill 5 orcs in village A then 10 orcs in village B then 20 orcs in village C.
The other players (team Y) have a quest to save village A from invading orcs. etc.
So team Z appear as orcs to team Y and team Y appear as orcs to team Z.
The same with the inhabitants of the villages.
There, cyclic quest problem AND AI problem solved all at once.
And the orcs have decent treasure on them for once.
And don't forget that it is one more thing that can go wrong.
Remember, you ALWAYS run the MINIMUM on your servers. If you don't absolutely need IPv6 today, then don't put it on.
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So the average gamer has no influence on real-world events ... but they do have some degree of influence in game.
Therefore, document the influence you have in the game! It's kind of like making it into the history books ... kind of.
Who already own "sed and awk" and buy a book that is supposedly about Bash scripting only to find out that the advanced section replicates what is in the sed and awk book. Which is very annoying.
Not that it's a bad book. I just believe that it should have been more focused on Bash only scripting.
If you want to learn about sed and awk, buy the sed and awk book. If you want to learn Bash scripting, there are a LOT of more useful sites online.
Local groups sharing between themselves. Able to physically meet and verify each other.
At the borders of that group, individuals physically moving material between groups. Very easy now with portable hard drives of a terabyte or more.
So instead of material being available instantly ... it will be available in 7 days to anyone, anywhere. Because we all know that there are only 7 degrees of separation between any two people.
With Kerberos, your password never leaves your machine.
The machine you're trying to log on to sends you a random string that is encrypted with your password.
Your machine uses the password you typed in to decrypt that string. Which also contains instructions on how to continue the connection.
Your password never goes across the wire.
Copyrights / patents ... if you cannot turn a profit in 14 years then it's your fault.
The system was not ORIGINALLY intended to provide someone with a lifetime's worth of income. It was to ENCOURAGE development.
If you are learning SECURITY then the first lesson is that the PEOPLE are the weakest link.
You need to design systems that minimize the human error portion. That means designing systems where it is possible to tell the "good" code from the "bad" code. Where the average user can run an app to identify the "good" code from the "bad" code.
Where the warnings are sufficiently rare that the average user is NOT trained to just click "accept" when one pops up.
But anyone who showed that it could be done would be arrested and spend serious jail time.
This is all theatre. It's so the TSA can justify their budget. It's all a joke. If a terrorist wanted to make a point now, he'd drive a car bomb into an airport terminal during a major holiday rush.
We could go back to the "pre-9/11" screenings IF we made sure that every plane had a flight deck door that was secured against anyone in the passenger section getting through it for long enough for the pilot to make an emergency landing.
Instead we live in fear of 4 oz of toothpaste.
If you own your own domain (or manage one) you can create a fake address and use it ONLY for that specific site. Then unsubscribe it. Then label anything that gets delivered to it as spam.
The reason this is "2nd degree" is that you actively subscribe it.
The "1st degree" spam traps would be ones that you never subscribed to anything.
How stupid are you? Oh, I get it. You're some uninformed kid who's trying to dig himself out of the hole he's argued himself into.
I copied Apache from Debian Sid to Ubuntu Hardy Heron. It worked.
I copied Apache from Fedora 9 to Ubuntu Hardy Heron. It worked.
Looks like you don't know shit about what you're talking about. But what did I expect?
Why? It amuses me to mock kids like you in public. I have facts, you have your opinions. Sucks to be you.
It's funny because you keep trying to bail yourself out with rhetorical questions. Because you don't know the answers and you're hoping that I don't, either.
Sucks to be you. The modules get recompiled because they need the exact kernel version number. That's all. That's why the same code will compile on each kernel update. 100% of the code is the same.
Let me guess, you're still living in Mom's basement.
Yeah, sure you did. LOL
I'd stop trying to pretend that you know anything about what you're talking about.
You're confusing 3rd party libraries and the vendor's support for them with Linux.
Linux is the GPL'd portion. You can fix bugs in Linux.
With a vendor, you're fucked. And if you DID work on such a project you would KNOW that. LOLx2
Keep talking. It's hilarious. :)
So Linux is "fragmented" because your 3rd party vendor's EULA states that they only support Red Hat 4. LOLx3
And, as I've already shown, Apache DOES work. But feel free to say that it MIGHT not. LOLx4
LOLx5
But ... somehow ... Apache can handle it. And Samba. And BIND. And dozens of OTHER apps.
But YOU ... you have PROBLEMS ... therefore Linux is "fragmented".
LOLx5
When a thousand other people are doing exactly what you claim CANNOT be done ... sorry, I'm going to have to go with the thousand who can do it. Sucks to be you. LOLx6
It's like you're retarded or something. You CANNOT see the difference between your 3rd party vendor's EULA and Linux.
Oh, it's because you're too stupid to understand the difference, isn't it?
The LSB have been trying that since 1998.
They've failed for 10 years.
Yet people like you (stupid people) STILL claim that the LSB is needed because Apache and Samba and others CANNOT do what they've been doing for YEARS.
I have facts. You have your opinions.
The facts contradict your opinions.
Linux is NOT the same as a 3rd party vendor's EULA.
Sucks to be you.
LOL
So? Fragmentation would be when they did NOT work.
Since they DO work, that is not fragmentation.
Yeah ... so it does work.
Again, fragmentation would be when it did NOT work. Not when it DOES work. Okay?
Why are you bringing that up? If the code runs, the code runs. You're trying to introduce things like EULA because ... ?
And since you've already admitted to the fact that they DO run ...
There is no fragmentation and the GPL still rocks.
I don't know about you, but I have run VMWare server and workstation on Red Hat, SuSE and Ubuntu.
Yes, I have. I'm still running VMWare server on my Ubuntu box (Hardy Heron). It works. I have to run a script every time I upgrade the kernel, but that is all.
I have also run Apache, Samba, BIND and many others on different distributions. Without any problems.