Who believe this Bull (market) suffer at the hands of latter day James Fisks
From london Financial Times Thursday Feb 24,article on Egg, a UK internet bank which is loosing money fast by enticing depositors with rates it cannot support (cant a city full of bond traders tell this is screwed?) says :
"In the short term no doubt, the Pru [Prudential, Egg's owners, a British insurer] will ensure Egg's stock flies. An engineered stock squeeze would certainly help, and predictably, Prudential is planning to list just 15 - 25% of the capital"
After the US saw its whole people belittled (and a world economy brought to its knees) by such machinations, simple manipulations such as those employed by Fisk were outlawed. Previous to Fisks demise, Vanderbuilt had been hailed as building a great empire upon such tricks. People will be in awe at such money - this is the nature of money. It has power over people who work for it. However it seems that we are no longer awake in vigilance against even the most puerile of deceptions.
how exactly does an OS save lives? I mean surely you had better compliment the sysadmn on his/her job keeping flawless uptime too? but isnt this story just scraping the barrel of linux do good links? a Uk company called Andrews and Arnold ships perfectly good Linux based voice mail and call control software AS AN ALTERNATIVE to paying Lucent mega$ for WinCrap licenses (which are i think about $3,500 equiv just to get voicemail up) all on network alchemy hware. i bet someone somehwre willl diall 999 / 911 and save a life on that kit too. will that justify a story?
>>WinCE is more than dead . . . isn the whole appeal of WinCE homogoneity of API's. sure i hear CE is not hot on real time handling, but given the wide fragmentation of the embedded market - ChorusMIX, QNX, etc. et.c there is no doubt a horde of MS$ programmers to throw at jobs. no specialised knowledge required. honestly running my desktop is exactly the same as process control in my local MAGNOX reactor. Hmmmm. and marketinf counts for nothing? why do you write in the past tense abut CE? i couldnt care less if it were dead, but I expect somehow it is there. also i dont see why symbian should rule either. they include Psion, which is given to incredible arrogance. remember that on announcing the Psion 5 in the UK they then had to climb down and admit they were shipping all available units to the US because "they had to develop their key markets" yeah, screw them too. / rant off
your call is being held in a queue whilst our voice systems support group resolves an intense debate to decide the correct device architecture for low cost appliance operating systems . . .
your call will be answered just as soon as one of our operators settles on a consistent user - interface paradigm,
you are caller number . . "
(yes i know not good use of "architecture" or any other technical bit - let me be, i should be asleep now)
i'd like to follow through on my earlier post a little.
basically the question which is now in my mind is the extent to which success in a extensive pervasive mediated system such as the internet relies on the observation of human behavioral patterns by individual proponents.
i've been paying quite some attention to/. for a while now. (previous was my first post) - is not/. a localised micro environment (micro - climate if you like) for the testing and exposure of complex ideas which exhibit a great deal of external interdependencies?
witness the flow of posting to this news item
it begins with a report referring to a new addition to microsofts web site, which is considered a news item precisely because of a number of question marks that hang over it will generate debate
"hmm, suspicious, lets post this and see . . . "
a very large number of subsequent posts focus entirely on the technical information which is pertinant to users
real questions over the validity of the addition to microsoft's site only seem to arise as the amount of contracdictory information / opinion / "other posts" increases
so as the number of viewpoints posting from disparate perspectives increases (possibly each beginning with a very specific idea of his or her position vis a vis the technologies in question, and almost certainly with only a quick guess at the technological vantage point of future readers) the chances that a subsequent reader may mentally mark down the whole topic increases with the decreasing logical integrity of the thread(s)
on the whole it seems very little information appears which seems helpful to anyone who may have basic difficulties with the data and language of the data stored in these threads
more observant readers i think tend sift through/. columns aiming to build for themselves a holisitic picture which reconciles issue with posts/information with their own situation, and derive from this the perspective which a damn good read (i mean thoro' and thinking read) here can really afford
which is something that sadly print media seems poorer and poorer at achieving, for apposite reasons.
but my question stands, could we not all be guinea pigs for m$ PR? are they the best observers of the phoenomenon which is/. ? if anything you put up on your site could be open so quickly to so frenzied, so varied, so often eloquent, persuasive and even vehement comment and opinion, and all of this reflected back upon itself faster than i myself tend to remember i've forgotten to buy a morning paper, would you not want seriously to understand how this works, and what the potential outcome is of a particular informational positioning?
there seems to be a certain darwinianism connected with the way in which posts here rise to the surface, wherein only the most contraversial posts generate enough quickly written replies that ultimately someone goes and writes a whole thought process in a new post, trying, by way of response or retort to earlier thoughts, bon mots, sylloquies, eulogisms and idea proagations, to put the masse of unadulterated brainpower into a coherent exposition of his or her own. but, if a print analogy were to be taken, choosing only the best written, most insightful and articulate essays to begin with, maybe fewer would post in reply in the first place - the excitement of the chase after a more complete idea or understanding would not quite still be there.
but does fewer reply posts mean less significance, in terms of who pays real attention? I am inclined to think so, basing this (not so complete) aspect of my thoughts on the anaolgy of a teacher to the unititiated - involvement combined with digestible lessons is the key to understanding
at this point i'm starting to see what i was getting at when i first negan typing - you see there is a dynamic involved in all this posting which has a real and direct effect on readers appreciation for and understanding of the world (tho' maybe just a small part of it, can we admit ?:) over and above the actual facts which are conveyed
if the internet, and outfits like/. (erm, i presume that's you - all of you) are truly *the future*, whether for buying pantyhose or the primary interface of human communication, do you not think that there is something in all this which IS nonobvious, just as a MD no doubt could tell me much now why my body demands caffeine at a cellular level - there is a process going on, and the bit which is obvious (boil kettle, read/., post, repeat) is not necessarily all there is to it.
gotta go, more coffee required . .
p.s. my email is real, and - eventually - i do intend replying to anyone who writes (back here soon if you prefer something "on the record"
unistall instructions are "perfect" MS flamebait/FUD 1. Post contradictory/confusing/not well thought through unistall instructions on M$ support pages 2. Be aware than n/. readers, appropriately paranoid about M$ tactics trawl M$domain for references 3. Acknowledge considerable legitaimacy that the info on M$domain portends for many who are not absolutely sure of themselves, technically speaking 4. Add reference / connection to W2k (not yet widely known, tested and familiar to a large majority despite "going gold". 5. Consider/. will react, and is undoubtedly viewed by many linux newbies, including many intelligent types sitting on fence (one thing linux has really done is bring to the fore of public consciousness the need for robust os's, (for those who are not already painfully aware) - who fulfils this need on a mass scale (equiv M$ desktop share at least, i mean wouldnt everyone *love* to have jornalling filesystems "everywhere") is yet to be seen, happily and hopefully not de facto M$ 6. Allow that the "user experience" of linux is more varied than with M$ os's, therefore expect many opinions in addition to reactions to inaccuracy and other *problems* with the support page 7. Wait for it all to brim over with froth and (genuine) contraversy - the best liar mixes lies carefully with the truth and - 8. Bingo - thousands of innocents shy off linux because they "just dont know anymore"/ honestly dont have the time to go check all the facts for themselves. - the perfect setup. haven't we just been *done* into all our *undoing* (or uninstalling?) comment # 10^(score), man i'm slow today
Slashdot Mirror
http://search.ft.com/search/multi/globalarchive.js p?query=lex+Prudential&docId=00022400112 2&searchCat=1&offset=6&query=a href="http://search.ft.com/search/multi/globalarch
From london Financial Times Thursday Feb 24,article on Egg, a UK internet bank which is loosing money fast by enticing depositors with rates it cannot support (cant a city full of bond traders tell this is screwed?) says :
"In the short term no doubt, the Pru [Prudential, Egg's owners, a British insurer] will ensure Egg's stock flies. An engineered stock squeeze would certainly help, and predictably, Prudential is planning to list just 15 - 25% of the capital"
After the US saw its whole people belittled (and a world economy brought to its knees) by such machinations, simple manipulations such as those employed by Fisk were outlawed. Previous to Fisks demise, Vanderbuilt had been hailed as building a great empire upon such tricks. People will be in awe at such money - this is the nature of money. It has power over people who work for it. However it seems that we are no longer awake in vigilance against even the most puerile of deceptions.
how exactly does an OS save lives? I mean surely you had better compliment the sysadmn on his/her job keeping flawless uptime too? but isnt this story just scraping the barrel of linux do good links? a Uk company called Andrews and Arnold ships perfectly good Linux based voice mail and call control software AS AN ALTERNATIVE to paying Lucent mega$ for WinCrap licenses (which are i think about $3,500 equiv just to get voicemail up) all on network alchemy hware. i bet someone somehwre willl diall 999 / 911 and save a life on that kit too. will that justify a story?
>>WinCE is more than dead . . . isn the whole appeal of WinCE homogoneity of API's. sure i hear CE is not hot on real time handling, but given the wide fragmentation of the embedded market - ChorusMIX, QNX, etc. et.c there is no doubt a horde of MS$ programmers to throw at jobs. no specialised knowledge required. honestly running my desktop is exactly the same as process control in my local MAGNOX reactor. Hmmmm. and marketinf counts for nothing? why do you write in the past tense abut CE? i couldnt care less if it were dead, but I expect somehow it is there. also i dont see why symbian should rule either. they include Psion, which is given to incredible arrogance. remember that on announcing the Psion 5 in the UK they then had to climb down and admit they were shipping all available units to the US because "they had to develop their key markets" yeah, screw them too. / rant off
your call is being held in a queue whilst our voice systems support group resolves an intense debate to decide the correct device architecture for low cost appliance operating systems . . .
your call will be answered just as soon as one of our operators settles on a consistent user - interface paradigm,
you are caller number . . "
(yes i know not good use of "architecture" or any other technical bit - let me be, i should be asleep now)
basically the question which is now in my mind is the extent to which success in a extensive pervasive mediated system such as the internet relies on the observation of human behavioral patterns by individual proponents.
i've been paying quite some attention to /. for a while now. (previous was my first post) - is not /. a localised micro environment (micro - climate if you like) for the testing and exposure of complex ideas which exhibit a great deal of external interdependencies?
witness the flow of posting to this news item
it begins with a report referring to a new addition to microsofts web site, which is considered a news item precisely because of a number of question marks that hang over it will generate debate
"hmm, suspicious, lets post this and see . . . "
a very large number of subsequent posts focus entirely on the technical information which is pertinant to users
real questions over the validity of the addition to microsoft's site only seem to arise as the amount of contracdictory information / opinion / "other posts" increases
so as the number of viewpoints posting from disparate perspectives increases (possibly each beginning with a very specific idea of his or her position vis a vis the technologies in question, and almost certainly with only a quick guess at the technological vantage point of future readers) the chances that a subsequent reader may mentally mark down the whole topic increases with the decreasing logical integrity of the thread(s)
on the whole it seems very little information appears which seems helpful to anyone who may have basic difficulties with the data and language of the data stored in these threads
more observant readers i think tend sift through /. columns aiming to build for themselves a holisitic picture which reconciles issue with posts/information with their own situation, and derive from this the perspective which a damn good read (i mean thoro' and thinking read) here can really afford
which is something that sadly print media seems poorer and poorer at achieving, for apposite reasons.
but my question stands, could we not all be guinea pigs for m$ PR? are they the best observers of the phoenomenon which is /. ? if anything you put up on your site could be open so quickly to so frenzied, so varied, so often eloquent, persuasive and even vehement comment and opinion, and all of this reflected back upon itself faster than i myself tend to remember i've forgotten to buy a morning paper, would you not want seriously to understand how this works, and what the potential outcome is of a particular informational positioning?
there seems to be a certain darwinianism connected with the way in which posts here rise to the surface, wherein only the most contraversial posts generate enough quickly written replies that ultimately someone goes and writes a whole thought process in a new post, trying, by way of response or retort to earlier thoughts, bon mots, sylloquies, eulogisms and idea proagations, to put the masse of unadulterated brainpower into a coherent exposition of his or her own. but, if a print analogy were to be taken, choosing only the best written, most insightful and articulate essays to begin with, maybe fewer would post in reply in the first place - the excitement of the chase after a more complete idea or understanding would not quite still be there.
but does fewer reply posts mean less significance, in terms of who pays real attention? I am inclined to think so, basing this (not so complete) aspect of my thoughts on the anaolgy of a teacher to the unititiated - involvement combined with digestible lessons is the key to understanding
at this point i'm starting to see what i was getting at when i first negan typing - you see there is a dynamic involved in all this posting which has a real and direct effect on readers appreciation for and understanding of the world (tho' maybe just a small part of it, can we admit ? :) over and above the actual facts which are conveyed
if the internet, and outfits like /. (erm, i presume that's you - all of you) are truly *the future*, whether for buying pantyhose or the primary interface of human communication, do you not think that there is something in all this which IS nonobvious, just as a MD no doubt could tell me much now why my body demands caffeine at a cellular level - there is a process going on, and the bit which is obvious (boil kettle, read /., post, repeat) is not necessarily all there is to it.
gotta go, more coffee required . .
p.s. my email is real, and - eventually - i do intend replying to anyone who writes (back here soon if you prefer something "on the record"
unistall instructions are "perfect" MS flamebait/FUD 1. Post contradictory/confusing/not well thought through unistall instructions on M$ support pages 2. Be aware than n /. readers, appropriately paranoid about M$ tactics trawl M$domain for references 3. Acknowledge considerable legitaimacy that the info on M$domain portends for many who are not absolutely sure of themselves, technically speaking 4. Add reference / connection to W2k (not yet widely known, tested and familiar to a large majority despite "going gold". 5. Consider /. will react, and is undoubtedly viewed by many linux newbies, including many intelligent types sitting on fence (one thing linux has really done is bring to the fore of public consciousness the need for robust os's, (for those who are not already painfully aware) - who fulfils this need on a mass scale (equiv M$ desktop share at least, i mean wouldnt everyone *love* to have jornalling filesystems "everywhere") is yet to be seen, happily and hopefully not de facto M$ 6. Allow that the "user experience" of linux is more varied than with M$ os's, therefore expect many opinions in addition to reactions to inaccuracy and other *problems* with the support page 7. Wait for it all to brim over with froth and (genuine) contraversy - the best liar mixes lies carefully with the truth and - 8. Bingo - thousands of innocents shy off linux because they "just dont know anymore"/ honestly dont have the time to go check all the facts for themselves. - the perfect setup. haven't we just been *done* into all our *undoing* (or uninstalling?) comment # 10^(score), man i'm slow today