I'm sorry for your loss, I truly am. My wife and I thankfully have not had to personally deal with that loss, but we have had a few friends and have family member that have, and helping them through that was very trying.
I do not desire to impose my religious beliefs on you, but I do not want government taking the publics money and imposing a degraded value for life by funding the destruction of embryoes for research. So far, they are not going to, and I'm pleased by that decision
what she stated was that she didn't believe it was right to distroy human life to try to save another. Why would those views keep her from giving her child tylenol?
If anyone really wants to listen to what was said, goto NPR's web site and listen to the real media version of yesterdays (8-09-01) version of All Things Concidered in the first or second hour, I can't exactly remember when that story was on.
It's an excecutive order untill Congress takes over and changes the deciesion, which the Democratic controlled senate already said they would try to change this "ban"
Naw, he's just getting really old and had to change his adult diaper.
*grin*
I thought it took alot of guts for television to say that sort of thing. I'm glad that they didn't try to tear this issue into a 30 second sound byte and pretend that they totally understood everything about the issue after the speach.
Currently, the research is legal, but since a large portion of society finds it morally questionable, I don't believe federal funds should support it. Private research does have oversite bodies, and these bodies do take ethical and moral views into consideration when making decisisions on research. For example, crossing a human and an ape would make for interesting research, but I doubt anyone would find it moral or ethical to do so, and it would not be allowed to contiue.
Science at one point in history did believe those things, science changed at another point, but it was too "radical" for society. I suppose this could be viewed as another split, but I doubt it. There is no evidence that anything can or could happen from these cells.
I am not against oversite of private research in these cases. That has always existed. New oversite bodies are going to be created to deal with this, as was stated in the speach last night.
My extended family has been in that situation. I do not believe it is moral to distroy any number of lives (possible or otherwise, depending on how you look at it) to save my child. Any other way, yes.. I'll pay any amount of money to save my child, but distroying life to save life is something I'm morally against. I don't think man should even have the option to create and distroy life, that's something that is God's alone.
Anyway, it's just conjecture at this point. I'd much rather see research into synthetic cells and organs that could function without fear of failure or infection.
(of course, including the standard "real thought, moderators slap it to hell" disclaimer)
Well, as one of those "right wingers" that you so eloquently talk about, I'm pleased that the government isn't going to pay for science to harvest humans for thier cells. I agree that the research HAS THE POSSIBLITLY to lead to cures for many ills, but the chance that it could have saved your 2 grandparents and your wife's father, or my 2 grandparents or my wife's grandparents is conjecture only. Science THINKS that these things are possible, but science also was sure that the Earth was the center of the universe and that the world was flat and if you got to the edge, you would fall off.
Science should look at every option, and follow every research path, but federal money shouldn't be used for the harvesting of humans. Private funds and grants from private groups should be used in this case.
You are welcome to your belief that 4-5 cells do not constitue life, however, I'm sure you will feel different if you find your set to have a child and then it's lost during gestation. Those 4 or 5 cells become as real as any person and the loss felt is terrible. I pray your family never has to deal with that.
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There used to be quite a large market in taking the chassie from the VW Bettle (old body style) and putting fiberglass bodies on it. One I saw even had gull wing doors and a big ass spoiler on the back.
They do just this on the 80-90 turnpike in Ohio US to commercial truckers. A time for the pass from toll booth to toll booth that is less than someone driving the speed limit on the toll road is grounds for a ticket.
Of course, most of the truckers roll like hell and then stop for dinner before the end of the toll road.
I have last tried Moz at the 0.9.1 release, and used RPMS at that. I downloaded the tar.gz installer and ran that this time after removing the rpms. What a great installer! Quite impressed. I so far, it seems to be stable on the pages that kill Konqueror, but we'll see how it works in the next few days.
In my local district, four bond issues have been put down in what is a mostly age over 50 county. However, a Senior Center that was proposed in the county was approved the first time it came up for vote. All this while the school uses PS/2 486 machines and Apple IIgs machines for computer science courses.
Chinese Government has been around in it's current form since Mao and Zhou Enlai in 1949.
Chinese people have been around for very many years. Chinese government changes quite often. Some of us are proud of our history, but not of our current government.
I used to be a Mac bigot, but now that multiple distros support PPC, I can seriously look at an iMac as an option for ultra quiet servers. Sure, it's ide, but no fans... no noise at all other than the hard disc access.
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Rob,
I'm sorry for your loss, I truly am. My wife and I thankfully have not had to personally deal with that loss, but we have had a few friends and have family member that have, and helping them through that was very trying.
I do not desire to impose my religious beliefs on you, but I do not want government taking the publics money and imposing a degraded value for life by funding the destruction of embryoes for research. So far, they are not going to, and I'm pleased by that decision
right wing isn't only pro life, you must rembember that
pro life is against the taking of any life, including the death penalty.
what she stated was that she didn't believe it was right to distroy human life to try to save another. Why would those views keep her from giving her child tylenol?
If anyone really wants to listen to what was said, goto NPR's web site and listen to the real media version of yesterdays (8-09-01) version of All Things Concidered in the first or second hour, I can't exactly remember when that story was on.
It's an excecutive order untill Congress takes over and changes the deciesion, which the Democratic controlled senate already said they would try to change this "ban"
Well, you remember how Reagan was lambasted and it was said that he slept through most of his 2 terms.
All of a sudden, *poof* no more USSR
He is most likely much smarter than anyone gives him credit for after listening to that down south twang in his voice.
Naw, he's just getting really old and had to change his adult diaper.
*grin*
I thought it took alot of guts for television to say that sort of thing. I'm glad that they didn't try to tear this issue into a 30 second sound byte and pretend that they totally understood everything about the issue after the speach.
Currently, the research is legal, but since a large portion of society finds it morally questionable, I don't believe federal funds should support it. Private research does have oversite bodies, and these bodies do take ethical and moral views into consideration when making decisisions on research. For example, crossing a human and an ape would make for interesting research, but I doubt anyone would find it moral or ethical to do so, and it would not be allowed to contiue.
Science at one point in history did believe those things, science changed at another point, but it was too "radical" for society. I suppose this could be viewed as another split, but I doubt it. There is no evidence that anything can or could happen from these cells.
I am not against oversite of private research in these cases. That has always existed. New oversite bodies are going to be created to deal with this, as was stated in the speach last night.
My extended family has been in that situation. I do not believe it is moral to distroy any number of lives (possible or otherwise, depending on how you look at it) to save my child. Any other way, yes.. I'll pay any amount of money to save my child, but distroying life to save life is something I'm morally against. I don't think man should even have the option to create and distroy life, that's something that is God's alone.
Anyway, it's just conjecture at this point. I'd much rather see research into synthetic cells and organs that could function without fear of failure or infection.
A company in New England is planning on cloning human embryoes for thier stem cells. That's where the cloning comes in, from what I know.
(of course, including the standard "real thought, moderators slap it to hell" disclaimer)
Well, as one of those "right wingers" that you so eloquently talk about, I'm pleased that the government isn't going to pay for science to harvest humans for thier cells. I agree that the research HAS THE POSSIBLITLY to lead to cures for many ills, but the chance that it could have saved your 2 grandparents and your wife's father, or my 2 grandparents or my wife's grandparents is conjecture only. Science THINKS that these things are possible, but science also was sure that the Earth was the center of the universe and that the world was flat and if you got to the edge, you would fall off.
Science should look at every option, and follow every research path, but federal money shouldn't be used for the harvesting of humans. Private funds and grants from private groups should be used in this case.
You are welcome to your belief that 4-5 cells do not constitue life, however, I'm sure you will feel different if you find your set to have a child and then it's lost during gestation. Those 4 or 5 cells become as real as any person and the loss felt is terrible. I pray your family never has to deal with that.
There used to be quite a large market in taking the chassie from the VW Bettle (old body style) and putting fiberglass bodies on it. One I saw even had gull wing doors and a big ass spoiler on the back.
yes, but NSA (not NSI) didn't arrest you... you just became a missing person.
They do just this on the 80-90 turnpike in Ohio US to commercial truckers. A time for the pass from toll booth to toll booth that is less than someone driving the speed limit on the toll road is grounds for a ticket.
Of course, most of the truckers roll like hell and then stop for dinner before the end of the toll road.
I have last tried Moz at the 0.9.1 release, and used RPMS at that. I downloaded the tar.gz installer and ran that this time after removing the rpms. What a great installer! Quite impressed. I so far, it seems to be stable on the pages that kill Konqueror, but we'll see how it works in the next few days.
BTW, this was posted with 0.9.3.
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That long?
Exactly.
In my local district, four bond issues have been put down in what is a mostly age over 50 county. However, a Senior Center that was proposed in the county was approved the first time it came up for vote. All this while the school uses PS/2 486 machines and Apple IIgs machines for computer science courses.
I had the same problem
doesn't tell you that you need quotes around the Download Manager flag, does it?
half as long as Ming or Han?
Ming 1368-1644 = 276 year US 212 year
half as long ?
Han (which Han?)
Western Han 206 BC - 9 AD 215 year
Eastern Han 25 - 220 195 year
Later Han 947-950 3 year
half of all han is 206.5 less than america
let us talk, ok?
quick response...
Chinese Government has been around in it's current form since Mao and Zhou Enlai in 1949.
Chinese people have been around for very many years. Chinese government changes quite often. Some of us are proud of our history, but not of our current government.
don't know if that would make a good server... wave your hand over the top of it and it turns off :)
you could use an iMac... no fans
I used to be a Mac bigot, but now that multiple distros support PPC, I can seriously look at an iMac as an option for ultra quiet servers. Sure, it's ide, but no fans... no noise at all other than the hard disc access.
Oh, I know that this reply is to an OT post, but that is the funniest damn thing I've seen on Slashdot ever.
autorpm kinda fits that bill