I would expect you would have at least seen the last statement as humor, but you're all riled up and spewing canned arguments so I suppose you missed that. And other things as well, it seems.
I thought about trying to explain the problems with your derailed logic and then I realized it would be all for naught since your mind is quite enveloped in it's fantasy land.
Go on, stay there and be paranoid and leave the nice sane people alone.
You know, I think that it's amazing the lengths that some minds will go to "fight the belief systems" in the world just to express some form of independence, but that's just... honestly, that's just funny.
Ok, fine, you're going "against the machine" or whatever and making some point here. Fine. Have you even questioned why you want to stretch things so far that you liken pictures of naked seven-year-olds to religion? I mean, to any normal person making that association is beyond absurd and into the comical realm of being raped by aliens, so to actually have the defunct mind needed to get to that level you really have to have something against religion.
I think rather than trying to steer towards that area of conversation you just need to stop and think for yourself about the world, man. I mean it, that was one huge leap in logic over molten cesspools of reason and association and through the brick wall of sanity. That had to hurt, man. Pick yourself up and look around and see what was driving you to do that kamikaze stunt rather than participate in this discussion. You need some massive introspection, there.
Which point are you arguing? People thoughts or people's art?
Art is an expression of thought, not the thought itself. I'm not talking about limiting the thought, I'm talking about defending the laws that are already in place that say the expression of that thought is illegal.
The point to making illustrations of child porn illegal is that it limits the imagination of the person with the illness. Hopefully that gives the person with the illness, and without the will to do it themselves, cause for seeking help in dismissing it. If we allow illustrations of it then we're basically saying, to an extent, "hey, this is all right after all, just don't actually do it, ok?" That doesn't work. They feed, and feed, and feed and then eventually you have a little league coach or someone that lands in jail for groping some 10-year-old.
Stop it early, stop it completely, and then it can't start.
I don't expect porn addicts to understand. I also don't expect people blinded by free speech advocacy to understand. Just because you want to do something does not mean you should be able to do something. With all freedoms come limits designed to protect fellow man. This one is designed to make any and all forms of expression of even an interest in abusing a child illegal. That's a good thing.
Your reasoning is flawed. You're saying that by catering to people with a mental illness and feeding that illness that you can limit that illness? To put it another way, you can put a fire out by throwing more wood on it? No.
This is not like drugs. Next?
Some child porn consentual? You're grasping for straws. That's like saying that if I was seven and saw another seven-year-old naked and played "doctor" or whatever that I was a child porn maniac or something. That's entirely incorrect because the two people are the same age which completely makes it not what is illegal. If those kids them take photos, that's not illegal. If they then distribute these photos that's illegal because someone older than them can get a hold of it and then we're back at my first post.
Ok, so you didn't read what I said so I'll knock it down a level, mmk?
Fictional porn feeds the minds of people that can't get the real thing. This will lead to one of two things: they will be happy with the fake stuff or they will go get the real thing.
Getting the real thing is bad and what is illegal. If we get the sickos off the addiction all together then we can hope to fight it. If they can still get their fix then it will still happen.
Really, dude, think of the children.
As an aside, I really have no idea why you brought religion into this. This is social science, man. Twisted pervs chasing naked children and how we can stop it. Nothing more than that. The idea is to get anything that could ever fuel that mindset away from them and then hope it dies of starvation.
"I'm just viewing it, I didn't take the pictures!"
"I got it for free, so no one's making money off me!"
"It's not hurting anyone to just look at them!"
Viewing the pictures, for profit for not, creates demand. All those fuckers need is demand. Many of them don't do it for money; a lot do it because they're honestly obsessed with naked kids, so saying you're not paying for it is not really an argument. You're one more person that's sharing that dick's experience and one more person egging him on.
The same goes for pictures "morphed" into something bad, but in a different way. This is not a sign of the morality police, but a way of preventing any kind of brain-food for perverts to get their fix. It's entirely questionable as to if this actually helps at all (some will have their addiction starve off and die, others will go looking harder) but it does have a logical purpose other than enforcing morality.
The part I can't get over is I'm having to justify legal restrictions on naked children on Slashdot. Has our urge for free speech really gone this far? My God...
MacIntosh is Scottish. The Irish variety of family names usually beings with O (O'Reilly, O'Banyan, etc.). The abbriviation "Mc" is an Americanism that stemmed from English writing of "M'c" which denoted the non-vocalizing of the vowel.
As for where, well, a while back there was a family, the MacIntoshs, and they bred a really nice apple (the fruit). A few centuries later some marketing guy figured it'd be a nice pun. It was. =)
At first I turned my nose up at any job that paid less then 65k a year, now I'm in line for a possible tech support job that pays 15$/hr, and I'm willing, nay, HAPPY, if I actually get it.
That's what I said and did. Here I am a year later and the demand for my services on the phones is a constant whereas my programming is not (designed it, made it, perfected, got it up the ass with a severance check (aka "me too")).
It's not so bad. Get the night shift and then you get paid more for almost no work. =)
Until then, I say we should violate EVERY software patent we can find until the rules are changed.
You do that. I'll find a way to get cigarettes and Playboys to you for as many years as they get you for, too...
Not a popular opinion on this site but it's against the law and breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter how wrong you feel the law is. You'd better be damn sure they turn it over (like segregation, or slavery) if you go against it, and that they do it before you're caught. Even if the law is repealed, if you commit the crime while the law exists then you broke the law of the hour and are responsible for it.
Breaking patent and copyright law is thrown around much too trivially these days. While bad laws (horribly bad ones), they are as much laws as is fraud and larceny. Most people aren't caught, but the ones that are are hung by their toenails for years before they pull them out.
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I would expect you would have at least seen the last statement as humor, but you're all riled up and spewing canned arguments so I suppose you missed that. And other things as well, it seems.
Not worth my time.
I thought about trying to explain the problems with your derailed logic and then I realized it would be all for naught since your mind is quite enveloped in it's fantasy land.
Go on, stay there and be paranoid and leave the nice sane people alone.
[sigh]
Welcome to Slashdot, please, enjoy your stay.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
... honestly, that's just funny.
You know, I think that it's amazing the lengths that some minds will go to "fight the belief systems" in the world just to express some form of independence, but that's just
Ok, fine, you're going "against the machine" or whatever and making some point here. Fine. Have you even questioned why you want to stretch things so far that you liken pictures of naked seven-year-olds to religion? I mean, to any normal person making that association is beyond absurd and into the comical realm of being raped by aliens, so to actually have the defunct mind needed to get to that level you really have to have something against religion.
I think rather than trying to steer towards that area of conversation you just need to stop and think for yourself about the world, man. I mean it, that was one huge leap in logic over molten cesspools of reason and association and through the brick wall of sanity. That had to hurt, man. Pick yourself up and look around and see what was driving you to do that kamikaze stunt rather than participate in this discussion. You need some massive introspection, there.
Which point are you arguing? People thoughts or people's art?
Art is an expression of thought, not the thought itself. I'm not talking about limiting the thought, I'm talking about defending the laws that are already in place that say the expression of that thought is illegal.
The point to making illustrations of child porn illegal is that it limits the imagination of the person with the illness. Hopefully that gives the person with the illness, and without the will to do it themselves, cause for seeking help in dismissing it. If we allow illustrations of it then we're basically saying, to an extent, "hey, this is all right after all, just don't actually do it, ok?" That doesn't work. They feed, and feed, and feed and then eventually you have a little league coach or someone that lands in jail for groping some 10-year-old.
Stop it early, stop it completely, and then it can't start.
I don't expect porn addicts to understand. I also don't expect people blinded by free speech advocacy to understand. Just because you want to do something does not mean you should be able to do something. With all freedoms come limits designed to protect fellow man. This one is designed to make any and all forms of expression of even an interest in abusing a child illegal. That's a good thing.
If you can't see that by now then you need help.
Your reasoning is flawed. You're saying that by catering to people with a mental illness and feeding that illness that you can limit that illness? To put it another way, you can put a fire out by throwing more wood on it? No.
This is not like drugs. Next?
Some child porn consentual? You're grasping for straws. That's like saying that if I was seven and saw another seven-year-old naked and played "doctor" or whatever that I was a child porn maniac or something. That's entirely incorrect because the two people are the same age which completely makes it not what is illegal. If those kids them take photos, that's not illegal. If they then distribute these photos that's illegal because someone older than them can get a hold of it and then we're back at my first post.
Ok, so you didn't read what I said so I'll knock it down a level, mmk?
Fictional porn feeds the minds of people that can't get the real thing. This will lead to one of two things: they will be happy with the fake stuff or they will go get the real thing.
Getting the real thing is bad and what is illegal. If we get the sickos off the addiction all together then we can hope to fight it. If they can still get their fix then it will still happen.
Really, dude, think of the children.
As an aside, I really have no idea why you brought religion into this. This is social science, man. Twisted pervs chasing naked children and how we can stop it. Nothing more than that. The idea is to get anything that could ever fuel that mindset away from them and then hope it dies of starvation.
- "I'm just viewing it, I didn't take the pictures!"
- "I got it for free, so no one's making money off me!"
- "It's not hurting anyone to just look at them!"
Viewing the pictures, for profit for not, creates demand. All those fuckers need is demand. Many of them don't do it for money; a lot do it because they're honestly obsessed with naked kids, so saying you're not paying for it is not really an argument. You're one more person that's sharing that dick's experience and one more person egging him on.The same goes for pictures "morphed" into something bad, but in a different way. This is not a sign of the morality police, but a way of preventing any kind of brain-food for perverts to get their fix. It's entirely questionable as to if this actually helps at all (some will have their addiction starve off and die, others will go looking harder) but it does have a logical purpose other than enforcing morality.
The part I can't get over is I'm having to justify legal restrictions on naked children on Slashdot. Has our urge for free speech really gone this far? My God...
Yep, Dallas, Texas.
Article is here.
that's 1 song for every 40 MAC users
then
MAC = Media Access Controller (re: ethernet)
Since there's about a billion* ethernet controllers in the world, I don't think that's the abbreviation/acronym in question. =)
* Rectally-generated number.
MacIntosh is Scottish. The Irish variety of family names usually beings with O (O'Reilly, O'Banyan, etc.). The abbriviation "Mc" is an Americanism that stemmed from English writing of "M'c" which denoted the non-vocalizing of the vowel.
As for where, well, a while back there was a family, the MacIntoshs, and they bred a really nice apple (the fruit). A few centuries later some marketing guy figured it'd be a nice pun. It was. =)
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MPAA = Motion Picture Association of America
RIAA = Recording Industry Association of Ameria
MAC = ???
Why do people insist upon putting that in caps? It's a abbreviation of Macintosh, not an acronym for Most Approachable Computer or something.
[/rant]
I don't know what's more frightening, that he did or that you can.
Bad test scores prove only one thing: they can't take tests.
Water is wet.
That's what I said and did. Here I am a year later and the demand for my services on the phones is a constant whereas my programming is not (designed it, made it, perfected, got it up the ass with a severance check (aka "me too")).
It's not so bad. Get the night shift and then you get paid more for almost no work. =)
They have a lot of money in the bank. ~4 billion.
... possibly ... happen...
You ever wrote that article is pretty stoopit
Um, dude, I think that's the point. It's called humor. That is, claiming things to happen that can't
Ok, I admit it, I feed trolls. Sue me.
Well crap, I've been Slashdotted. There goes the DSL line... grr.
...
It just doesn't have the prestige it used to, eh? Oh well, there's more to life than the Internet
Right? [whimper]
Typos hold great truth.
10.0 - bugs, $129
10.0.1 - fixes, free
10.0.2 - fixes, free
10.0.3 - fixes, free
10.0.4 - fixes, free
10.1 - bugs and fixes, $129 (free for most, though)
10.1.1 - fixes, free
10.1.2 - fixes, free
10.1.3 - fixes, free
10.1.4 - fixes, free
10.1.5 - fixes, free
10.2 - bugs and fixes, $129
10.2.1 - fixes, free
10.2.2 - fixes, free
10.2.3 - fixes, free
10.2.4 - fixes, free
They're not charging you for the fixes, they're charging you for the bugs! =)
Bzzt. Wrong. There's an update for 10.1.5 as well.
Security Update 2003-03-03 (10.1.5): Information and Download
Damn it, now you're going to make me do something with my domain, aren't you?
Not only old news, but a dup as well. Wake up, Hemos.
You do that. I'll find a way to get cigarettes and Playboys to you for as many years as they get you for, too...
Not a popular opinion on this site but it's against the law and breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter how wrong you feel the law is. You'd better be damn sure they turn it over (like segregation, or slavery) if you go against it, and that they do it before you're caught. Even if the law is repealed, if you commit the crime while the law exists then you broke the law of the hour and are responsible for it.
Breaking patent and copyright law is thrown around much too trivially these days. While bad laws (horribly bad ones), they are as much laws as is fraud and larceny. Most people aren't caught, but the ones that are are hung by their toenails for years before they pull them out.