I'm probably going to be moderated as Troll for saying this:
Debian is a very hard target to develop for. It's primarily a platform for nerds wanting to have it their own way. Yes, that's the fundamental freedom open source gives you. However, that also means there's a lot of diversity even in debian stable. There is no such thing as the debian. It's always 'debian with this-and-that choices made during installation and this-and-that changes to the default setup (yay, let's make two completely different init systems available!)'.
Ubuntu makes decisions for the end-user. Less diversity. A lot less. This makes ubuntu easier to support. Do you want to sit at the phone asking a debian user what choices and customisations he made?
One last serious question: you want a database server. It must talk SQL. As a trained professional, do you really care what distribution runs on the server? Do you even care about the cost? Those databases don't come cheap, you know.
The American government also spends lots of money, with the exception that not enough money is coming in, so the country is in deep debt. Very, very deep.
So in fact you're saying taxes on fuel should be raised to levels common in Europe, so car efficieny will rise to efficiency levels commonly found in European cars?
I consider compiling with -Wall good style, which warns you when doing an assignment used as an expression. if ((a = 1)) supresses the warning, assuming the coder knows what he's doing.
SunOS has been known as Solaris since version 2.6, which is Solaris 6 (maybe even since SunOS 2.5/Solaris 5... I'm not sure). SunOS doesn't really exist anymore these days.
php can handle the load. Most of the time it's the databaseserver which dies. High traffic sites must avoid querying the database as much as possible. Cache all semi-static pages.
I've got a server which withstood a slashdotting without any problem, despite using php. I just didn't have a backend database...
Quite funny to see how americans are upset by something europeans have had for ages.
For the american readers:
Over here we've got one bank card. The card can be used to withdraw money from ATM's all over the world (ATM can be owned by about any bank), using the card and a PIN. However, we don't need money since we can pay directly at almost all shops using the card and PIN.
For online banking we use a small device, as described by the parent. No card = no online banking.
Cheques do not exist anymore in europe. They've been redundant for many years now (10+). Yes, in theory you can go to your bank and ask for a chequebook. Hopefully the teller is old enough to remember how to order one for you.
Note that europeans don't need creditcards. I've got one, for online shopping. I rarely use it.
And please don't give me that 'america is complicated' crap. In europe we've got hunderds of banks, all working happily together to make electronic payments work. All america has to do is to implement the european system and they're done. If they can get past the NIH-syndrome that is...
AJAX is a technique for updating a page with new information without a reload. The result is an updated page. Why would a visually impaired person be able to read a normal page but not an updated page? You do know there are javascript-enabled text-only browsers, do you?
'security smarts' are irrelevant. Javascript can make your site more attractive. A more attractive site attracts more visitors. A javascript site loses some visitors. When you gain more visitors by using javascript than you lose visitors, you use javascript. Simple economics.
rpm and dpkg are package formats. Formats don't track anything. It's the tools which track dependencies. Tools such as apt, yast, yum and urpmi. All these tools install a package including all its dependencies. Maybe you're confused with the 'rpm' tool, which is just a lowlevel interface to the rpm package format. Nobody really wants or needs to use the rpm command.
FreeBSD is not a full OS. You really have to build large parts of it in order to become useful.
Even with softupdates on I had to manually fsck the root fs twice on a server I rebooted using the power switch.
The docs only document the 'official' freebsd. On order to make freebsd actually useful you'll have to install a lot of ports (such as portautit). The official documentation doesn't mention this. You'll have to fall back to unofficial docs, docs which are as good or bad as the Linux HOWTO collection.
I don't need a GUI, thank you. A nice ncursus interface will do just fine.
You need to track security updates for kernel, base and ports and apply them in different manners
Package management is a decade behind what rpm and dpkg have to offer
It's essentially a DIY kit to build an OS. I just want an OS.
Building ports takes ages, time I don't have
Building ports takes resources. Resources I want to use for the server's core buisiness. Which is not compiling ports.
Bad documentation. The official freebsd manual often explains the most time consuming, error prone way of doing things. Later you'll find out there are many convienient ports to perform common tasks.
No journalled filesystems. Yeah, it's really scary to remotely kill the power of a crashed machine.
The only really good thing of freebsd seems to be the kernel. The userspace is really amateurish though.
The root servers are spread over the world (though the US still has a large percentage of them). However, the root zone is maintained by the US apparently. I'm quite supprised to read it isn't maintained by ICANN actually.
The radioactivity of the container is no real problem. The radioactivity is relatively weak and decays to acceptable levels in a few decades. Then the containter is reusable in the plant.
It's not very useful to make a gui equivalent of low level commands like the ones you gave. It's far more useful to create a higher level gui which transparently generates many lowlevel commands for every highlevel gui command.
For example, the commands you gave are NOT sufficient for a secure firewall with exactly one port open. Checking a port in a GUI to be open should be sufficient to generate a secure firewall with exactly that sole port open.
Creating a secure and maintainable firewall is hard. For someone not very skilled in the low level commands a GUI would be very useful.
The above means it's legal to distribute iso images
Better gnome support
Some novell logos here and there
I haven't tried 9.3 yet, but I will upgrade my 9.2 workstation to 9.3 somewhere next week I think.
The stability is very good in my experience. I don't think I've ever encountered a crash on a server which wasn't hardware-related. Yes, desktops do crash, but that is to be expected, sadly. There's simply too much hardware to support and the user simply does far too many stupid things.
I've never had an hotmail.com or msn.com account and I've been using msn messenger for years. Go visit passport.com and register your email address with them. No, they don't spam. Never.
Learn to do what? Things you don't need to know? There is no reason whatsoever why you would want to learn to use the CLI when you're going to use your computer for office tasks.
Also, learning in a harsh environment (which the CLI is to beginners) usually is not the smartest and most productive thing to do. You can easily learn to use the CLI from konsole while reading manpages in konqueror, you know.
Slashdot Mirror
So? They do work, you know.
I'm probably going to be moderated as Troll for saying this:
Debian is a very hard target to develop for. It's primarily a platform for nerds wanting to have it their own way. Yes, that's the fundamental freedom open source gives you. However, that also means there's a lot of diversity even in debian stable. There is no such thing as the debian. It's always 'debian with this-and-that choices made during installation and this-and-that changes to the default setup (yay, let's make two completely different init systems available!)'.
Ubuntu makes decisions for the end-user. Less diversity. A lot less. This makes ubuntu easier to support. Do you want to sit at the phone asking a debian user what choices and customisations he made?
One last serious question: you want a database server. It must talk SQL. As a trained professional, do you really care what distribution runs on the server? Do you even care about the cost? Those databases don't come cheap, you know.
High gas prices don't stop us from driving, but it does stop us from driving fuel ineffient cars. American cars.
On meeting up: you can always find me on irc, #linux.nl @ irc.oftc.net; next Friday we're having a drink in Enschede (in Molly Malone, IIRC).
The American government also spends lots of money, with the exception that not enough money is coming in, so the country is in deep debt. Very, very deep.
So in fact you're saying taxes on fuel should be raised to levels common in Europe, so car efficieny will rise to efficiency levels commonly found in European cars?
I consider compiling with -Wall good style, which warns you when doing an assignment used as an expression. if ((a = 1)) supresses the warning, assuming the coder knows what he's doing.
SunOS has been known as Solaris since version 2.6, which is Solaris 6 (maybe even since SunOS 2.5/Solaris 5... I'm not sure). SunOS doesn't really exist anymore these days.
php can handle the load. Most of the time it's the databaseserver which dies. High traffic sites must avoid querying the database as much as possible. Cache all semi-static pages.
I've got a server which withstood a slashdotting without any problem, despite using php. I just didn't have a backend database...
Quite funny to see how americans are upset by something europeans have had for ages.
For the american readers:
Over here we've got one bank card. The card can be used to withdraw money from ATM's all over the world (ATM can be owned by about any bank), using the card and a PIN. However, we don't need money since we can pay directly at almost all shops using the card and PIN.
For online banking we use a small device, as described by the parent. No card = no online banking.
Cheques do not exist anymore in europe. They've been redundant for many years now (10+). Yes, in theory you can go to your bank and ask for a chequebook. Hopefully the teller is old enough to remember how to order one for you.
Note that europeans don't need creditcards. I've got one, for online shopping. I rarely use it.
And please don't give me that 'america is complicated' crap. In europe we've got hunderds of banks, all working happily together to make electronic payments work. All america has to do is to implement the european system and they're done. If they can get past the NIH-syndrome that is...
Using some elite slashdot h4x0ring skillz, I am able to post a picture of transparent aluminum right here for you:
Nice, eh?
Damn uptight americans. What exactly is harassing about that photo? :-/
AJAX is a technique for updating a page with new information without a reload. The result is an updated page. Why would a visually impaired person be able to read a normal page but not an updated page? You do know there are javascript-enabled text-only browsers, do you?
'security smarts' are irrelevant. Javascript can make your site more attractive. A more attractive site attracts more visitors. A javascript site loses some visitors. When you gain more visitors by using javascript than you lose visitors, you use javascript. Simple economics.
No they wouldn't. They've always required clear visibility in order to land the space shuttle.
I'm quite sure the rendering time doesn't differ more than a low single digit number. It's CPU bound, the OS doesn't do much.
It's just licensing cost. When you've got a render farm of 100 machines, Linux is way cheeper than Windows.
- You need to track security updates for kernel, base and ports and apply them in different manners
- Package management is a decade behind what rpm and dpkg have to offer
- It's essentially a DIY kit to build an OS. I just want an OS.
- Building ports takes ages, time I don't have
- Building ports takes resources. Resources I want to use for the server's core buisiness. Which is not compiling ports.
- Bad documentation. The official freebsd manual often explains the most time consuming, error prone way of doing things. Later you'll find out there are many convienient ports to perform common tasks.
- No journalled filesystems. Yeah, it's really scary to remotely kill the power of a crashed machine.
The only really good thing of freebsd seems to be the kernel. The userspace is really amateurish though.If you want stability, then don't run debian unstable. You'll probably be far better off on ubuntu, which essentially is debian unstable, stable.
The root servers are spread over the world (though the US still has a large percentage of them). However, the root zone is maintained by the US apparently. I'm quite supprised to read it isn't maintained by ICANN actually.
The radioactivity of the container is no real problem. The radioactivity is relatively weak and decays to acceptable levels in a few decades. Then the containter is reusable in the plant.
If users want AMD and suppliers only deliver Intel, then something is clearly wrong.
It's not very useful to make a gui equivalent of low level commands like the ones you gave. It's far more useful to create a higher level gui which transparently generates many lowlevel commands for every highlevel gui command.
For example, the commands you gave are NOT sufficient for a secure firewall with exactly one port open. Checking a port in a GUI to be open should be sufficient to generate a secure firewall with exactly that sole port open.
Creating a secure and maintainable firewall is hard. For someone not very skilled in the low level commands a GUI would be very useful.
Not to me though, I like to get my hands dirty ;-)
- Yast is GPL'ed
- The above means it's legal to distribute iso images
- Better gnome support
- Some novell logos here and there
I haven't tried 9.3 yet, but I will upgrade my 9.2 workstation to 9.3 somewhere next week I think.The stability is very good in my experience. I don't think I've ever encountered a crash on a server which wasn't hardware-related. Yes, desktops do crash, but that is to be expected, sadly. There's simply too much hardware to support and the user simply does far too many stupid things.
I've never had an hotmail.com or msn.com account and I've been using msn messenger for years. Go visit passport.com and register your email address with them. No, they don't spam. Never.
Learn to do what? Things you don't need to know? There is no reason whatsoever why you would want to learn to use the CLI when you're going to use your computer for office tasks.
Also, learning in a harsh environment (which the CLI is to beginners) usually is not the smartest and most productive thing to do. You can easily learn to use the CLI from konsole while reading manpages in konqueror, you know.
Also, suse was never based on Redhat. It was based on Slackware, but now uses rpm.