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SUSE Linux 9.3 FTP Version Released

twener writes "Nine weeks after the official release of SUSE Linux 9.3 Professional Novell has made available the FTP edition for everyone as a 4.2GB DVD ISO image (both i586 and x86_64) or 5 CD images (stripped-down, i586 only) on their mirrors. Additionally, all until-now missing RPMs have been uploaded, so you can also do a network installation using the 57MB netinstall ISO." Update: 06/27 19:37 GMT by T : Yes, that's RPMs, not RMPs. Sorry!

24 comments

  1. RMP? by markjx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What's an RMP? And, why do I care if they're missing?

    1. Re:RMP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously a typo, should read 'rpm'. And you need them for a net installation, for some packages which are not on the CDs or maybe even the DVD.

    2. Re:RMP? by eyeye · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think its a typo it should be RPM - Revs per minute. Basically if the the burned disc misses revs than installation could fail.

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    3. Re:RMP? by Leroy_Brown242 · · Score: 1

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      Run for your lives!

    4. Re:RMP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [b]R[/b]ear [b]M[/b]ounted [b]P[/b]ussies
      Which comes in very handy, over Rosy Palm that is..

    5. Re:RMP? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The human brain has a rather usefull auto corection function , I didn't even notice it ,till you mentioned the error that is.
      The mind is a wonderfull thing with many abilites , its good to put them to use now and then.

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    6. Re:RMP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Bin laden killed ~4000, Bush and Blair killed ~100,000 - say NO to all terrorists.

      Bin laden killed over 3000 civilians, while targeting civilians. The HIGH estimates of Iraqi civilians killed buy U.S. or British troops is 10-15,000, and that's very questionable. The only report I've seen that claims 100,000 uses terms like "probably" or "might be". Not exactly compelling as scientific evidence.

    7. Re:RMP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      only five times as many? oh thats ok then!

  2. For those who run SuSE by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How has the takeover by Novell affected your perception of the stability of the system? I stopped running SuSE somewhere around 8.2 when a binary driver from Adaptec, certified on both SuSE and RedHat, ran stabiliy on RH 9.0 and locked up under load on SuSE. I was sorry to let it go, as RH's desktop at that point seemed to unfinished in comparison.

    I had always liked the overall polish of the system, and stuck with it even after they abandoned rc.config for the standard (sigh) sys-v init.d scripts. It was, at the time, similar to RH in being cutting edge, without taking that last step over the cliff.

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    1. Re:For those who run SuSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > How has the takeover by Novell affected your perception of the stability of the system?

      Not at all? Why should it have any effect?

    2. Re:For those who run SuSE by Erik+Hensema · · Score: 3, Informative
      The only changes I've seen so far are:
      • Yast is GPL'ed
      • The above means it's legal to distribute iso images
      • Better gnome support
      • Some novell logos here and there
      I haven't tried 9.3 yet, but I will upgrade my 9.2 workstation to 9.3 somewhere next week I think.

      The stability is very good in my experience. I don't think I've ever encountered a crash on a server which wasn't hardware-related. Yes, desktops do crash, but that is to be expected, sadly. There's simply too much hardware to support and the user simply does far too many stupid things.

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    3. Re:For those who run SuSE by darksider415 · · Score: 1

      I'm running SuSE 9.1 Professional, and I've been really happy with it, so far. If anything, it freed up about 10 GB over my old Windows XP install, and it does everything I need. I'd be downloading 9.3, but, alas, I'm on dialup. As I said, I've been really happy with the stability. Your mileage may vary, though.

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    4. Re:For those who run SuSE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Related, Novell pushed changes after Ximian acquisition:

      * Evolution Outlook Connector is GPL'ed

  3. That's good to see... by soren42 · · Score: 4, Insightful


    It's very nice to see Novell getting wise to the community. One of the biggest complaints I've always heard about SuSE was that they never made ISOs available to download. I think this a reasonable compromise - waiting several weeks to make ISOs available via FTP. That lets early-adopters buy the boxed copies and allows everyone else to wait a few weeks for an ISO download. I think this is commendable.

    On the technology side, I've been using 9.3 Pro since it was released - and I've never been more impressed with a Linux distro. All of my complaints about 9.2 Pro and Novell Linux Desktop have been answered... there's better KDE/GNOME integration, enhanced YaST modules, and drivers for more recent hardware. Add to that new apps like Beagle, and I think 9.3 Pro is a glimpse of things to come in the next Novell Linux Desktop and SuSE Linux Enterprise.

    Well done, guys. Keep up the good work!

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  4. Package Sources by linuxpoweredtrekkie · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you install using the 5cds you can still access all the packages from the full mirror simply by adding a mirror as a yast source, see http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:yastsources

  5. This is so last week's news by PB8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Already had the 5 CD set downloaded, burnt, and installed as of last Thursday from a bit torrent version that had the blessings of Novell. Yes, it indeed took several days to get it via Bit Torrent at 44kps. But it was so worth it to beat the slashdot crowd!

    Yes, getting multimedia up and running is a bit of an effort. No, it's not hard:

    How To fix multimedia in SuSE 9.3

    Yast Update Online - install the "multimedia pack 1, 2, 3" updates.

    But it doesn't have....no, wait...SuSE users frequently find additional rpm packages on Packman that meet their additional needs:

    Packman
    Have lots of fun!

    1. Re:This is so last week's news by Rheingold · · Score: 1

      Where is this Torrent you speak of?

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    2. Re:This is so last week's news by Scaba · · Score: 2

      Here's one with the DVD, the 5 CDs and a modified DVD of only 32-bit stuff.

  6. SUSE Linux Pro vs SLES by Nighttime · · Score: 1

    At work, we're starting to use SLES8 and 9 on some of our servers. As my experience is on Red Hat and Fedora I tend not to know my way around a SUSE system. A lot of things are where I expect to find them, but there are some subtle differences. To that end I'd like to install SUSE on a spare machine at home so that I can learn its ways. Is SUSE Pro similar enough to SLES to allow me to do so? If it was Red Hat, I could always grab a copy of CentOS and use that. Is there an equivalent project for SLES?

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    1. Re:SUSE Linux Pro vs SLES by dangomez · · Score: 1

      I also came from a pure redhat environment and now at my current employer, we switched to Suse Pro line for our production linux servers. The key difference I had to realize is suse's active usage of their /etc/sysconfig directory. Since they work hard to enable 'yast2' to configure everything, they define much of the environment in that directory. Once you realize that, system administration on the suse environment becomes more clear for redhat veterns.

    2. Re:SUSE Linux Pro vs SLES by Kz · · Score: 1

      The main differences I've seen between SuSE Pro and SLES are around the 'almost automatic' setups. For example, in SLES you get a LDAP server for everything (login, Samba, Netatalk, etc) just by choosing the right choice during installation. In SuSE Pro, on the other hand, it's just as easy to point to an existing LDAP server (or find it via SLP).

      BTW, i'd also kill for a 'Centos for SLES' distro. Even after opensourcing YaST, there's a very intimidating EULA in SLES. Anybody here know about the legality of that? It doesn't seem to be protecting just the support service (like RedHat) but the product itself (like proprietary software)

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  7. The Given FTP Link by agraupe · · Score: 1

    When I followed the FTP link given in the summary, I noticed that the DVD iso was named something along the lines of "eval". So, is this an installation DVD or an evaluation DVD? Do they just call it evaluation to trick you into buying the boxed version?

    1. Re:The Given FTP Link by NicodemusPrime · · Score: 1

      It is essentially the same only sans hard copy documentation and incl. support you would get when buying the retail version. I believe that documentation is on the disk though so you wont miss much unless you need live help.

    2. Re:The Given FTP Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's basiclly the same DVD you get with the boxed version?