JP, from all that I have read is a politician/script kiddie (scary combo) and is not respected by anyone here. We had our fun making him squirm under question that he could/would not answer, now we will all move on. We can look forward to a great interview next week. JP can return to his paranoid existance of convincing himself that he is a security expert and everyone else is a dangerous cracker. I can get back to work. Brain can continue planning to take over the world. Finkployd
Ahhhh... Remember the days when a Web Browser was used for browsing the web rather than handling every aspect of the internet experience?
I've been saying that for a while, come to think if it, so has nearly everyone:) So why is the mozilla team ignoring this request (given, the last Milestone release DID have a VERY weak standalone browser)?
I'm looking at the browser formerly known as Gzilla VERY seriously now (the new name escapes me). It seems like it could shape up into a nice, standards complient browser that is small and stable. Mozilla is too far gone to probably ever be a stable browser again.
These wouldn't be cheap, WINmodems would they? Then you get what you pay for. An unstable, slow software based modem that doesn't work under any alternative OS.
As for the war, we are winning. Sure MS has the desktop morket now, but we are improving at a much faster rate than they CAN, assuming they were trying to improve (which I haven't seen any sign of since DOS 6.0)
I just read the essay, that was horrible. I'm so proud of our educational system, where "facts" and "math" and "spelling" do not matter anymore, only "feelings" and "processes" and "self esteem". Outcome based education, here we come!
Lady on a bench: "Our education system is terrible, our children aren't learning anything that will be useful in the real world, wewill be a nation of janitors" Dogbert: "But think of how clean it will be"
I hope something is done to this teacher. What a fscked up way to praise a child who has done a paper (at your request) that you deemed "outstanding" and worth 100, send him off to jail.
I'd like to see the teacher spend a week in jail, then perhaps she would learn the meaning of threats and see some "real" danger*
Finkployd
*Disclaimer: While this sounds like a mean thing to say, remember, I'm not a schoolboy so I have a right to free speach.
Doesn't anyone wonder how the government manages to catch every major terrorist.
Oh, that's easy. If it's a public thing, they just pick some poor sap and make him the scapegoat. The Atlantic City Olympic bombing is a pretty good example. They got some inncent guy, make it public and looked good in front of the world.
It seems everything that gets lots of attention is settled ASAP, where as many issues that do not get that much attention end up unsolved. On the flip side, if something they cannot solve is real public, they come up with some bullshit excuse for it. Like the TWA 100 flight that went down accidently. Even though many people claimed to see a object streaking toward the plane and the air traffic controllers saw a small blip converge on the plane before it went down.
Come on, do you really believe that the government would have a problem lying to us to make it look good and look like it solve any mystery?
I understand your point and agree to an extent. However, I was putting forward an opinion from a different point of view. Of course you blame the person who breaks into your house, but you also have to look at the security in place. After all, if it's possible to unlock your house with a well placed credit card, then you would be a little ticked at the person who made the lock (or made the house and decided to use a cheap lock).
My point is, when we rely on people for security (ie hotmail) or companies rely on a copy protection scheme, there is a certin amount of responsilility on on the supplier's part. This all too common "we have a secure system, if it was broken into, it's completly the fault of the hacker" attitude is not going to work much longer.
"well, if your system is supposed to be secure, how did people break it? You must not be very good if a group of kids who cannot stop using the ShIfT key when typing can break it."
Yes, better security wouldn't be needed if people didn't break into things, and cops wouldn't be needed if people never killed and robbed each other. However, we don't live in that world.
After using such a weak encryption method in the DVD format, the Japanese company responded by attacking the people responsible for breaking it and threatening lawsuits (good luck, since the "crackers" responsible remain anonymous). Kind of reminds one of the revent security hole in Hotmail, where instead of admiting any responsibility, Microsoft attacked the horrible people who discovered the problem.
I think the concept of blaming the people who break security and pointing all the fingers at them is on it's way out, I believe the people who create the encryption and security methods should be held more accountable for weak security. Come on, without these "crackers" who break into things, we would still be XORing bytes and considering that the ultimate security.
Nope, the title has nothing to do with Doom induced high-school killing sprees, just an observation I've had. Most of the time, I consider the majority of Slashdotters to be somewhat Liberal in social views. If nothing else, we have many posters from countries which have gun laws and look upon the US's gun society as a barbaric one.
Given this somewhat leftist slant, It's sort of shocking to see the majority of people cheering and supporting the execution style murder of two humans. Where are all the posts crying for stronger gun laws I usually see with this type of story. I hate spammers as much as the next guy, but I would never have guessed that the denizens of slashdotland would be so bloodthirsty in their view of this "seedy underbelly" of net commerce.
Since we seem to have estabilished that it is OK to shoot spammers, what does everyone think of having a gun in the home for protection? Is that still evil? I'm not trying to be flamebait here (honestly), I just want to know why the view of guns changes when it comes to spammers (in the grand scheme of things, on of the least of all criminals)?
For the record, I'm a gun owner who believes in the gun laws we have on the books, and wished they would be enforced before we add new ones. I have a gun in my home to protect my family, but I would never condone the killing of someone simply because they sent you an annoying e-mail.
All this cheering about their deaths is kind of sick people.
Finkployd
"There are many who live who deserve death, and many who die who deserve life, can you give it to them?" Gandalf, from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings
Ummm oddly enough, that is what's happening. Most Linux users are (guess what?), EX-WINDOWS users who have had it with the Microsoft Way (TM). And nobody is denying that the Linux user base IS growing.
Amd if you have such distain for Slashdotters, what the hell are you doing here anyway? Don't you belong on ZDNet's talkback?:)
I agree with much of what you have to say, and Linux is in danger of following the same path. The major difference I see is that the Linux developers still have the desire to improve their product. And to react to emerging IT needs, instead of imposing their bloatware changes onto the IT world.
I have no real hatred towards MS, I just don't see them working for their customers, I see them working their customers for their gain.
...to learn that Microsoft just might be generating "independent" support by throwing money around? It's already been proven that they hired people to write "independent" letters to the editors of various newspapers right? We know their history.
They have no credibility as a company in my (and many other's) eyes. If you are an IT manager and you are taking these "independent" test results and opinions without a healthy portion of MSSalt.exe, then you need to seriously pull your head out of the sand.
Microsoft is afraid for it's life. Of course it's going to panic. However it's interesting to note that instead of being driven to improve their products and compete with Linux's strengths, they feel their only recourse is to attack and mislead. This is the sign of a company that can no longer "innovate" or improve their products to compete. They will be gone in a matter of years, since there is bound to be a better product someday (perhaps Linux, or something else down the line), that no amount of attacking, misleading, or "indepentent columns" can silence.
No company stays on top forever, and Microsoft has shown that it is past it's innovating stage, and well into it's "trying to hold it's lead with only slander" stage. It's only a matter of time.
We scared them. I pity Microsoft. I mean they thought they had all computer users brainwashed that bloated, unstable, nearly unusable programs and operating systems were what we wanted. Then this little upstart linux comes along and encourages *gasp* stability, and most horrifing of all, open source. Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, Microsoft, it tolls for thee.
I think with the help of Linux, and the accidental help of Win2k, they will be a much smaller company in the future. They cannot last forever as the largest software company in the world, and I believe they are on their way out.
Hey, quit ripping on used card salesmen! I used to be a used card salesman and I'm tired of all the bad jokes at our expense. The world needs used cards, where do you think all thoes Birthday and Anniversary go after you send them? Don't you support recycling? Not everyone can afford brand new cards! Sheesh
Close your eyes to the world. If the media tells us everything is ok, then it must be true right. I mean nothing can puncture that little happy bubble you live in right?
Truth to tell, most of the geeks I know (myself included) are strong constitutional rights supporters and gun owners. This includes both the first and second amendment. Too often activists choose one right to fight for and ignore the rest. You have the far right praising the second and ignoring the first, and the far left supporting the first and attacking the second. Finkployd
Good lord. You must have murdered a few trees just by yourself.:) Pray tell, what matter of document has 74,000 pages?
Some form of budget breakdown. I thought it sucked printing it all (it took 31 hours), but I feel REALLY sorry for the person who has to sort it and read it:)
I just finished printing a 74,000 page document that will probably never be read by ANYONE. It's just 9 boxes to collect dust in Penn State's basement:)
Slashdot Mirror
JP, from all that I have read is a politician/script kiddie (scary combo) and is not respected by anyone here. We had our fun making him squirm under question that he could/would not answer, now we will all move on. We can look forward to a great interview next week. JP can return to his paranoid existance of convincing himself that he is a security expert and everyone else is a dangerous cracker. I can get back to work. Brain can continue planning to take over the world. Finkployd
Ahhhh... Remember the days when a Web Browser was used for browsing the web rather than handling
:) So why is the mozilla team ignoring this request (given, the last Milestone release DID have a VERY weak standalone browser)?
every aspect of the internet experience?
I've been saying that for a while, come to think if it, so has nearly everyone
I'm looking at the browser formerly known as Gzilla VERY seriously now (the new name escapes me). It seems like it could shape up into a nice, standards complient browser that is small and stable. Mozilla is too far gone to probably ever be a stable browser again.
Finkployd
I can't belive I let "desktop morket" get past my feeble effort at proofreading :)
Finkployd
These wouldn't be cheap, WINmodems would they? Then you get what you pay for. An unstable, slow software based modem that doesn't work under any alternative OS.
As for the war, we are winning. Sure MS has the desktop morket now, but we are improving at a much faster rate than they CAN, assuming they were trying to improve (which I haven't seen any sign of since DOS 6.0)
Finkployd
Nope, read the story, it was the teacher. You are mistaken.
Finkployd
I just read the essay, that was horrible.
I'm so proud of our educational system, where "facts" and "math" and "spelling" do not matter anymore, only "feelings" and "processes" and "self esteem".
Outcome based education, here we come!
Lady on a bench: "Our education system is terrible, our children aren't learning anything that will be useful in the real world, wewill be a nation of janitors"
Dogbert: "But think of how clean it will be"
Finkployd
I hope something is done to this teacher. What a fscked up way to praise a child who has done a paper (at your request) that you deemed "outstanding" and worth 100, send him off to jail.
I'd like to see the teacher spend a week in jail, then perhaps she would learn the meaning of threats and see some "real" danger*
Finkployd
*Disclaimer: While this sounds like a mean thing to say, remember, I'm not a schoolboy so I have a right to free speach.
True, but now that I think about it, it will be tough to prove that he did anything illegal since the RealNetworks key was not encrypted anyway.
I don't think anything will happen to him.
Finkployd
Doesn't anyone wonder how the government manages to catch every major terrorist.
Oh, that's easy. If it's a public thing, they just pick some poor sap and make him the scapegoat. The Atlantic City Olympic bombing is a pretty good example. They got some inncent guy, make it public and looked good in front of the world.
It seems everything that gets lots of attention is settled ASAP, where as many issues that do not get that much attention end up unsolved.
On the flip side, if something they cannot solve is real public, they come up with some bullshit excuse for it. Like the TWA 100 flight that went down accidently. Even though many people claimed to see a object streaking toward the plane and the air traffic controllers saw a small blip converge on the plane before it went down.
Come on, do you really believe that the government would have a problem lying to us to make it look good and look like it solve any mystery?
Finkployd
I understand your point and agree to an extent. However, I was putting forward an opinion from a different point of view. Of course you blame the person who breaks into your house, but you also have to look at the security in place. After all, if it's possible to unlock your house with a well placed credit card, then you would be a little ticked at the person who made the lock (or made the house and decided to use a cheap lock).
My point is, when we rely on people for security (ie hotmail) or companies rely on a copy protection scheme, there is a certin amount of responsilility on on the supplier's part. This all too common "we have a secure system, if it was broken into, it's completly the fault of the hacker" attitude is not going to work much longer.
"well, if your system is supposed to be secure, how did people break it? You must not be very good if a group of kids who cannot stop using the ShIfT key when typing can break it."
Yes, better security wouldn't be needed if people didn't break into things, and cops wouldn't be needed if people never killed and robbed each other. However, we don't live in that world.
Finkployd
After using such a weak encryption method in the DVD format, the Japanese company responded by attacking the people responsible for breaking it and threatening lawsuits (good luck, since the "crackers" responsible remain anonymous).
Kind of reminds one of the revent security hole in Hotmail, where instead of admiting any responsibility, Microsoft attacked the horrible people who discovered the problem.
I think the concept of blaming the people who break security and pointing all the fingers at them is on it's way out, I believe the people who create the encryption and security methods should be held more accountable for weak security. Come on, without these "crackers" who break into things, we would still be XORing bytes and considering that the ultimate security.
Finkployd
Nope, the title has nothing to do with Doom induced high-school killing sprees, just an observation I've had.
Most of the time, I consider the majority of Slashdotters to be somewhat Liberal in social views. If nothing else, we have many posters from countries which have gun laws and look upon the US's gun society as a barbaric one.
Given this somewhat leftist slant, It's sort of shocking to see the majority of people cheering and supporting the execution style murder of two humans. Where are all the posts crying for stronger gun laws I usually see with this type of story. I hate spammers as much as the next guy, but I would never have guessed that the denizens of slashdotland would be so bloodthirsty in their view of this "seedy underbelly" of net commerce.
Since we seem to have estabilished that it is OK to shoot spammers, what does everyone think of having a gun in the home for protection? Is that still evil? I'm not trying to be flamebait here (honestly), I just want to know why the view of guns changes when it comes to spammers (in the grand scheme of things, on of the least of all criminals)?
For the record, I'm a gun owner who believes in the gun laws we have on the books, and wished they would be enforced before we add new ones. I have a gun in my home to protect my family, but I would never condone the killing of someone simply because they sent you an annoying e-mail.
All this cheering about their deaths is kind of sick people.
Finkployd
"There are many who live who deserve death, and many who die who deserve life, can you give it to them?" Gandalf, from Tolkien's Lord of the Rings
Come on moderators, this was humor, not flamebait.
:)
Maybe we need to pitch in and get this a "humor for dummies" book. (and slashdod gets ANOTHER angry letter from IDG
Finkployd
Ummm oddly enough, that is what's happening. Most Linux users are (guess what?), EX-WINDOWS users who have had it with the Microsoft Way (TM). And nobody is denying that the Linux user base IS growing.
:)
Amd if you have such distain for Slashdotters, what the hell are you doing here anyway? Don't you belong on ZDNet's talkback?
Fink
I agree with much of what you have to say, and Linux is in danger of following the same path. The major difference I see is that the Linux developers still have the desire to improve their product. And to react to emerging IT needs, instead of imposing their bloatware changes onto the IT world.
I have no real hatred towards MS, I just don't see them working for their customers, I see them working their customers for their gain.
Finkployd
...to learn that Microsoft just might be generating "independent" support by throwing money around? It's already been proven that they hired people to write "independent" letters to the editors of various newspapers right? We know their history.
They have no credibility as a company in my (and many other's) eyes. If you are an IT manager and you are taking these "independent" test results and opinions without a healthy portion of MSSalt.exe, then you need to seriously pull your head out of the sand.
Microsoft is afraid for it's life. Of course it's going to panic. However it's interesting to note that instead of being driven to improve their products and compete with Linux's strengths, they feel their only recourse is to attack and mislead.
This is the sign of a company that can no longer "innovate" or improve their products to compete. They will be gone in a matter of years, since there is bound to be a better product someday (perhaps Linux, or something else down the line), that no amount of attacking, misleading, or "indepentent columns" can silence.
No company stays on top forever, and Microsoft has shown that it is past it's innovating stage, and well into it's "trying to hold it's lead with only slander" stage. It's only a matter of time.
Finkployd
We scared them. I pity Microsoft. I mean they thought they had all computer users brainwashed that bloated, unstable, nearly unusable programs and operating systems were what we wanted. Then this little upstart linux comes along and encourages *gasp* stability, and most horrifing of all, open source.
Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, Microsoft, it tolls for thee.
Finkployd
I think with the help of Linux, and the accidental help of Win2k, they will be a much smaller company in the future. They cannot last forever as the largest software company in the world, and I believe they are on their way out.
Finkployd
Does he look like a used card salesman or what?
Hey, quit ripping on used card salesmen! I used to be a used card salesman and I'm tired of all the bad jokes at our expense. The world needs used cards, where do you think all thoes Birthday and Anniversary go after you send them? Don't you support recycling? Not everyone can afford brand new cards!
Sheesh
Finkployd
Close your eyes to the world. If the media tells us everything is ok, then it must be true right. I mean nothing can puncture that little happy bubble you live in right?
Sheesh
Finkployd
I have plenty of respect for both of you, quite making me question that.
Finkployd
Truth to tell, most of the geeks I know (myself included) are strong constitutional rights supporters and gun owners. This includes both the first and second amendment. Too often activists choose one right to fight for and ignore the rest. You have the far right praising the second and ignoring the first, and the far left supporting the first and attacking the second. Finkployd
Anyone have a mirror of this?
Finkployd
Good lord. You must have murdered a few trees just by yourself. :) Pray tell, what matter of document has 74,000 pages?
:)
Some form of budget breakdown. I thought it sucked printing it all (it took 31 hours), but I feel REALLY sorry for the person who has to sort it and read it
Finkployd
I just finished printing a 74,000 page document that will probably never be read by ANYONE. It's just 9 boxes to collect dust in Penn State's basement :)
Finkployd