Name some. Bonus points if you can name an actual important difference in something they will actually DO, not just talk about during campaign. I would love to know how these two party owned, spoiled rich, skull n bones, yale frat boys differ meaningfully.
Nope, because I don't have a bush/kerry sign in my yard. Frankly I do not understand how anyone who is even halfway informed can actually support either of these two.
Oh, and "because I want to beat the other guy who is nearly identical but just slightly worse" is a pretty poor excuse for voting for a bad candidate.
Someone should go around and put up "I'm not just idly standing by and watching this country go to hell, I am actively part of the problem" signs in yards with bush/kerry signs:)
It is interesting that you projected the concept of physical violence onto what I had said. Nowhere did I mention that these people should be punched or that fighting should settle it. I only said that if you are going to make a stand regarding TVs in public, then you should make a stand. Accept the looks, the possible comments, arguments, social ostracism that could result from your stand. Don't take the cowardly way out and just annoy people anonymously. I am a bit amused that you complete invented the "caveman", physical violance", "might makes right" style arguments and then attributed them to me. I was not thinking (or saying) that at all.
If you do not have the balls to walk up and turn off a TV that other people are watching in a public place, perhaps you shouldn't turn it off at all. Either stand up for what you believe in (no matter how arrogant), or just learn to live with other people and their preferences. Don't be a coward.
Getting the shit kicked out of you by those around you who do not appreciate you being an arrogant prick does not equate to peace and quiet by my standards.
Just out of curiousity, are you proud of being a dick? Seriously, I don't get all these people who are eager to piss off as many people around them as possible.
In my opinion (while I am not voting for nader), the only way to truly throw your vote away is to vote for the candidate who only cares about his political career.
You know the one, he is a Yale frat boy who was in the "secret" skull and bones society. He had a questionable service record that has been in the news lately. You know which guy I mean, the one that according to factcheck.org lied repeatedly throughout all three debates. Yup, that guy. The one that in his recent years of civic service has not improved this country at all, in fact has been accused of neglecting duty.
Yup, you know which one I am talking about. Don't vote for him. This country will go down the tubes if he wins the election.
Back in late 2000 nobody at all was harping on "civil liberties" and "erosion of the constitution" that John talked about
Well, that is not entirely true. People were bitching about the election results and disenfranchisement, but just those specific issues. Not civil liberties erosion in the broad and drastic sense of today.
You BASTARD, I had never heard of that and now it is midnight and I have accomplished almost nothing tonight because I was reading over that and other materials on the net that "debunk" or "support" it.
I don't buy it at all, but one piece bothers me a little. Back in late 2000 nobody at all was harping on "civil liberties" and "erosion of the constitution" that John talked about a lot with regards to his "upcoming civil war which had it's beginnings in 2005". However today that is quite the hot topic, and has been more and more since 9.11. Come to think of it, Mad Cow has been hitting the news more and more as well. Course it isn't hard to predict that the government will continue trampling on civil liberties and that disease will continue to spread.
A little civil war might not be bad for this country. Let's face it, the vast majority of Americans are cattle with no civic interest beyond the dog and pony show put on by the presidential elections every four years. And even then most people are going to vote for someone they do not like, who they do not agree with, just to prevent "the other guy" from getting elected.
Saying it has prevented terrorist attacks is like Bush holding up a stick and declaring the stick repels Gorillas. -- Well you don't see any gorillas do you??
Hmmmmm, you are right.
I want to purchase your Gorilla repelling stick, money is no object.
(I think I stole this joke from the Simpson's but I can't remember for sure)
You find it hard to believe that anyone of the hundreds of protestors was being violent or aggressive with the police? Hell when you get that many angry people together I would find it hard to believe.
Have you ever BEEN in a protest? There are always people who just want to fuck things up and make a scene.
Look, ham gear is expensive, and people primarily use it to communicate in times of non-emergency for fun. You aren't going to find too many people who happily purchase expensive radio equipment, study and pass a license exam, then wait for a power outage so they can use their equipment.
Frankly the people who already purchased thousands of dollars of equipment and passed the required exams only to be fucked over by the FCC (suprise, we decided we don't care if your stuff works anymore) have a right to be royally pissed over this.
You want a last mile solution, look to WI-MAX, BPL is a failure.
Historically, amateur radio has been used as "emergency frequencies" in natural disasters. Especially when standard infrastructure (like, you know, phone and power lines) no longer work.
Umm, basic economics my friend. If the demand is there, the production capacity will rise with it. It isn't like PPC chips are a scarce, natural resource, IBM certainly has the ability to boost production.
"Sir, we cannot keep up with the damand, we need to find more PPC mines"
The majority of the (working) population makes more than $5.25. Hell, most places (like McDonalds even) pay MORE than minumum wage. If you cannot get a job making more than minimum then something is seriously wrong with you. Learn a skill, move someplace where the work is, anything. If you have a good idea try to pull together some capital and start a business (this is not easy but it can, and frequently is, done)
People who sit on that ass all day, who have no marketable skills, and refuse to try to better themselves all the while bitching that "the man" owes them a living are not helping anyone.
Note that I am not grouping the mentally ill into this rant, they legitimately need help and their plight is a sad one. You have to admit that there are people out there who a capable of working and learning skills but don't want to because welfare can sustain you and it is easier to just sit around and complain. Help with job placement, trade schools, college, etc is out there.
That's good for her (nice pics, not my kind of kink, but cool). However not everyone has that good of an experience, the net is riddled with first hand accounts of abuse, degradation, etc. Not to mention that the original poster could have known people in that situation, and therefor felt morally opposed to it.
I guess my only point was, it is a personal thing, and he could have had very valid reasons for his reluctance. Not just (as I imagine the great grandparent poster assumed) a Bible thumping outrage at the concept of porn.
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Name some. Bonus points if you can name an actual important difference in something they will actually DO, not just talk about during campaign. I would love to know how these two party owned, spoiled rich, skull n bones, yale frat boys differ meaningfully.
Finkployd
Has anyone on /. had such an experience.
:)
Nope, because I don't have a bush/kerry sign in my yard. Frankly I do not understand how anyone who is even halfway informed can actually support either of these two.
Oh, and "because I want to beat the other guy who is nearly identical but just slightly worse" is a pretty poor excuse for voting for a bad candidate.
Someone should go around and put up "I'm not just idly standing by and watching this country go to hell, I am actively part of the problem" signs in yards with bush/kerry signs
News flash: not everyone considers this a valuable public service. I'd venture to guess most people don't.
Finkployd
It is interesting that you projected the concept of physical violence onto what I had said. Nowhere did I mention that these people should be punched or that fighting should settle it. I only said that if you are going to make a stand regarding TVs in public, then you should make a stand. Accept the looks, the possible comments, arguments, social ostracism that could result from your stand. Don't take the cowardly way out and just annoy people anonymously.
I am a bit amused that you complete invented the "caveman", physical violance", "might makes right" style arguments and then attributed them to me. I was not thinking (or saying) that at all.
Finkployd
If you do not have the balls to walk up and turn off a TV that other people are watching in a public place, perhaps you shouldn't turn it off at all. Either stand up for what you believe in (no matter how arrogant), or just learn to live with other people and their preferences. Don't be a coward.
Getting the shit kicked out of you by those around you who do not appreciate you being an arrogant prick does not equate to peace and quiet by my standards.
Finkployd
Just out of curiousity, are you proud of being a dick? Seriously, I don't get all these people who are eager to piss off as many people around them as possible.
Finkployd
It is IR, line of sight. You can make it as powerful as you want, it isn't going to work that way.
Finkployd
Looks like the Jonathan Greens of the world (many of which seem to frequent slashdot) finally have a weapon to fight back.
Finkployd
Are you trying to insinuate that the entire world shouldn't conform to my preferences? How un /. of you.
Finkployd
In my opinion (while I am not voting for nader), the only way to truly throw your vote away is to vote for the candidate who only cares about his political career.
You know the one, he is a Yale frat boy who was in the "secret" skull and bones society. He had a questionable service record that has been in the news lately. You know which guy I mean, the one that according to factcheck.org lied repeatedly throughout all three debates. Yup, that guy. The one that in his recent years of civic service has not improved this country at all, in fact has been accused of neglecting duty.
Yup, you know which one I am talking about. Don't vote for him. This country will go down the tubes if he wins the election.
Finkployd
Back in late 2000 nobody at all was harping on "civil liberties" and "erosion of the constitution" that John talked about
Well, that is not entirely true. People were bitching about the election results and disenfranchisement, but just those specific issues. Not civil liberties erosion in the broad and drastic sense of today.
Finkployd
You BASTARD, I had never heard of that and now it is midnight and I have accomplished almost nothing tonight because I was reading over that and other materials on the net that "debunk" or "support" it.
I don't buy it at all, but one piece bothers me a little. Back in late 2000 nobody at all was harping on "civil liberties" and "erosion of the constitution" that John talked about a lot with regards to his "upcoming civil war which had it's beginnings in 2005". However today that is quite the hot topic, and has been more and more since 9.11. Come to think of it, Mad Cow has been hitting the news more and more as well. Course it isn't hard to predict that the government will continue trampling on civil liberties and that disease will continue to spread.
A little civil war might not be bad for this country. Let's face it, the vast majority of Americans are cattle with no civic interest beyond the dog and pony show put on by the presidential elections every four years. And even then most people are going to vote for someone they do not like, who they do not agree with, just to prevent "the other guy" from getting elected.
Finkployd
Saying it has prevented terrorist attacks is like Bush holding up a stick and declaring the stick repels Gorillas. -- Well you don't see any gorillas do you??
Hmmmmm, you are right.
I want to purchase your Gorilla repelling stick, money is no object.
(I think I stole this joke from the Simpson's but I can't remember for sure)
Finkployd
I have a feeling that if there is an emergency and the power's out you won't have an interference problem!
I have a feeling that nobody is going to own and learn to operate a radio that only works when the power is out.
Finkployd
You find it hard to believe that anyone of the hundreds of protestors was being violent or aggressive with the police? Hell when you get that many angry people together I would find it hard to believe.
Have you ever BEEN in a protest? There are always people who just want to fuck things up and make a scene.
Finkployd
Really, what country are you in where cops are perfectly ok with protesters pushing them and instigating a fight (or did you not read the article?)
Finkployd
Are you the finkployd that used to be on slashnet? I'm pretty sure you are, because your real name seems familiar.
Hi.
theR
Yup, tis I, once frequenter of #Kuro5hin.
Finkployd
The ignorant have spoken, and I have seen the light. Hams are stupid and serve no purpose. Thank you AC.
Sheesh.
You are a troll. YHL. HAND
Sure, and the rest of the time?
Look, ham gear is expensive, and people primarily use it to communicate in times of non-emergency for fun. You aren't going to find too many people who happily purchase expensive radio equipment, study and pass a license exam, then wait for a power outage so they can use their equipment.
Frankly the people who already purchased thousands of dollars of equipment and passed the required exams only to be fucked over by the FCC (suprise, we decided we don't care if your stuff works anymore) have a right to be royally pissed over this.
You want a last mile solution, look to WI-MAX, BPL is a failure.
Finkployd
Historically, amateur radio has been used as "emergency frequencies" in natural disasters. Especially when standard infrastructure (like, you know, phone and power lines) no longer work.
Finkployd
Umm, basic economics my friend. If the demand is there, the production capacity will rise with it. It isn't like PPC chips are a scarce, natural resource, IBM certainly has the ability to boost production.
"Sir, we cannot keep up with the damand, we need to find more PPC mines"
That would be kinda cool actually.
"Eureka! We have struck Altivic!"
Finkployd
The majority of the (working) population makes more than $5.25. Hell, most places (like McDonalds even) pay MORE than minumum wage. If you cannot get a job making more than minimum then something is seriously wrong with you. Learn a skill, move someplace where the work is, anything. If you have a good idea try to pull together some capital and start a business (this is not easy but it can, and frequently is, done)
People who sit on that ass all day, who have no marketable skills, and refuse to try to better themselves all the while bitching that "the man" owes them a living are not helping anyone.
Note that I am not grouping the mentally ill into this rant, they legitimately need help and their plight is a sad one. You have to admit that there are people out there who a capable of working and learning skills but don't want to because welfare can sustain you and it is easier to just sit around and complain. Help with job placement, trade schools, college, etc is out there.
Finkployd
That's good for her (nice pics, not my kind of kink, but cool). However not everyone has that good of an experience, the net is riddled with first hand accounts of abuse, degradation, etc. Not to mention that the original poster could have known people in that situation, and therefor felt morally opposed to it.
I guess my only point was, it is a personal thing, and he could have had very valid reasons for his reluctance. Not just (as I imagine the great grandparent poster assumed) a Bible thumping outrage at the concept of porn.
Finkployd
I spelled soccer wrong, let's just pretend I said "non-American Football" and leave it at that.
Finkployd