Perhaps in case you want to uninstall a module. Go ahead, show me how CPAN does that:)
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Re:LOTR - As good as mediocre can be..
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Which raises the valid question: Is there any way possible to make a movie of LOTR and make it as epic and great as the book?
Frankly, I doubt it. Special effect are not anywhere near as good as my imagination, and actors never exactly the same as I imagine the characters acting when I'm reading something. Not to mention the movies would be 12 hours long each.
I was happy with the first two movies, not because I was expecting to be as good as the books, but because I was hoping to see an a movie that made a good effort to portray the books.
I'd suggest you keep trying, as tons of people use it daily at home, small offices, major corporations, and large universities. Not exactly "useless". More like one of the most popular open source projects.
I suggest getting in touch with your local linux user group. I'm not sure why you had problems with help forums and documentation, but someone local to you wuld probably be able to walk you through it.
I just bought a 13w3->vga adaptor from clapro (ebay id). it was $12 with shipping. I have since called and emailed him multiple times and he always has a lame excuse (isp was down, paperwork missing, no record of me paying, etc) and he always promises to call or email back when this is sorted out. Well, it has been a month and a half since I send the money to him via Paypal (I also sent him my email reciept). He has never returned an email and has never called me. Obviously I have not gotten the part in the mail either.
I'm figuring he is never going to make good on this. I got ripped of for $13. Not enough to really do anything over, but still pretty crummy. I ended up winning another 13w3->vga auction and got the part in the mail 3 days later.
The funny thing is, he never claimed it was lost in the mail, probably because I requested a UPS tracking number several times, which he has refused to give.
He has a mostly great rating, with a handful of people who reported the same thing I did. Probably not activly scamming people, just lazy and unable to fix his own problems.
In a vanilla corporate environment, a lot of the Mac advantages just don't mean a lot. Why pay for a bunch of crap that your users don't need?
I completly agree, although there are some people who DO need these features, and buying Apple makes sense for them. I never said Apple was a magic bullet solution to everyone's problems. Just that it is also silly to say that they are overpriced for everyone since you can get a featureless basic x86 box for much cheaper.
You should actually try the control-click thing on a Mac laptop.
I did for a while on my iMac. Believe me, I really wanted to use the Apple mouse that came with it for asthetic reasons alone (I mean, it looks so damn cool). After a few weeks I just had to go out and get a different mouse.
I actually find control-clicking faster than glancing down to see if my thumb is over the right button.
Not me. I use a Logitech trackman marble, my thumb operates the marble, my index finger hits the left button, my middle finger hits the scroll wheel/middle button, and my ring finger hits the right button.
Just an opinion. BTW, contextual menus are not 'necessary' for executing certain commands in OS X like they are in other operating systems.
While that is true to an extent (right clicking and hitting move to trash/unmount will always be faster than dragging something to the trash can IMHO), I also do quite a bit of work using Unix apps running in X11.
Which is great for desktops (I'm typing on a Mac desktop now) but I will not but an Apple laptop until they fix this one button insanity. I should not have to carry an external mouse around with me wherever I go.
And it is not like the space isn't there, the mouse button on an iBook is larger than the two/three buttons on most PC laptops combined.
you'll see Dell P4's for $400-500 bucks. Seriously, what Mac can compare?
None, but then those sub $1000 PC cannot compare to Macs feature wise. Raw CPU speed is not eveything. What video card are we talking about? Gig Ethernet? Firewire? etc. When you do an actual comparison using features, you will find the cost difference to be much closer. The Mac will still be more expensive, but not as much.
AutoCAD? GIS apps? Engineering apps?
Nitch apps. If you need them don't use a Mac. If I need to do hardcore video editing I'm sure not going to use a PC. If I want a really stable high end server I'm running AIX on an SP cluster of RS/6000s. Nobody said Macs were suitable for every nitch.
Those hip, trendy commercials don't help either. I want a box to crunch numbers
You want a Cray or perhaps a cluster of some type then.
Perhaps you should read what the framers of the constitution had written on that very subject. It is somewhat at odds with your interpretation. They were quite clear that the "well regulated militia" part was not a condition but a justification AND, that it literally meant every able bodied man. If their intent was what you believe, than it would have been worded "the right of the militia". However this right (like every other right in the bill of rights) was granted to the people. Because it included a justification does not change the meaning of the word "people'.
Regarding what the militia is, my readings indicate that the framers had in mind a system very similiar to how Switzerland works today. Every citizen has a military rifle and is required to report to training manuvers every so often, and be ready to defend their country at a moments notice. Pretty much exactly how the colonies operated. So has the governments failure to maintain this system end up negating this right? The law does not think so obviously, since guns are legal (in pretty much everywhere but the most crime ridden places, NYC, DC, etc)
Frankly, it think it is long past due that we amend this amendment to clarify once and for all exactly what it means. The wording is unfortunate no matter which side you come down on.
Either way it is irrelevant since it would be socially impossible to ban firearms in the US. We can't even ban drugs (and failed miserably at banning booze).
As a general rule, the east cost is significantly more heavily armed than the west. NYC and DC being the exception. Riots (assuming the leave the inner city and hear out to the burbs) might go a little differently around here.
I'm sorry, so what you are saying is that in this context, the phrase "the people" means something completly different than it does in the other amendments in the bill of rights?
I can name a few that still offer plain-text POP and IMAP, but I know of none that don't provide SSLed POP and IMAP as an option (I occassionally compare notes with other similar universities (Ivies, Big Ten, etc.).
By and large, most still offer plaintext POP and IMAP.
You are correct in that it is getting better and more and more universities offer secure protocols. HOWEVER, in my experience nobody (or very few) use them until the plaintext protocols are turned off. People will continue to use what is easiest and what they have used in the past until they are forced to change. Case in point, my school (PSU) offered SFTP for years but it was rarely used. only after turning off FTP did we find that people used SFTP (realistically they had no choise). Technically it was a simple move, politically it was a nightmare.
How do you think the mail is transferred between the mailservers? SMTP, maybe?...genious...
First up, when you are sarcastically refering to someone as a genius, it helps to spell it correctly, otherwise it somes across as sadly ironic.
Second, I am fully aware of the fact that SMTP is a plaintext protocol. The solution to this is to encrypt your email using PGP or S/MIME. However, that has NOTHING to do with what protocol you use to connect to the mail server, which is what we were talking about.
Two different issues, two different solutions. Arguably both should be used for total security but they do not have anything to do with each other otherwise.
There are two completly different issues here, one is authentication into the mail server, another is the privacy and authenticity of the email itself.
Now try to keep up with this, it is not complicated:
When I am comparing IMAP, POP, and HTTPS we are talking about the protocol used to connect to the mailserver itself, and how secure it is with regard to your account id and password. This method of connecting has absolutly no relevance to the privacy or integrity of your email once it has left your mail server and it on its way to another. Mail you send with POP, Secure POP, KPOP, IMAP, Secure IMAP, or over webmail via HTTP or HTTPS can be either encrypted or plaintext. The protocol has NOTHING to do with this.
The issue you being up can be solved via either PGP or S/MIME. This again is TOTALLY independant of the protocol used to connect to the mail server.
Up until your post, this thread was only about the protocol used to connect to the mail server, not about the integrity/privacy of the email itself as it traverses SMTP servers. I agree both issues need addressed but they have nothing to do with each other.
Ok, so I will grant you ISPs, however that assumes you never check your ISP mail from work, school, or anywhere other than dialed into them. That still leaves universities and corporations. Some are smart and turn off plaintext pop and imap, many do not.
And https only needs to have it's encryption cracked? Have you been cracking 128 bit (actually mine are all 1024 or 2048) RSA keypairs? I'm going to have to call "not a chance" on that one.
2. Penn State University (my fiancee's school) They all three offer IMAP with SSL.
I'm somewhat familiar with PSU myself, but I do not believe we offer IMAP with SSL. Perhaps some department runs their own mail server and does, but not the central email server.
We does however support KPOP, and Secure POP is coming soon.
They are also generally handled by people who know how to. Well I guess maybe not propane but scuba tanks are usually handled by people trained in how to handle them.
Think of all the abuse computers suffer at the hands of the technically challanged...now imagine them treating something potentially explosive with the same care.
Not that I'm saying it would be all that bad, but I'm sure there will be a few "accidents" if this tech becomes commonplace.
Upgrade windows? Nobody does that. Ok, sometimes corporations and universities may try to stay on the last supported OS. Let's face it though, joe sixpack runs whatever came on his PC, be it windows 95, 98, me, or (hopefully) one of the more recent ones. Most people do not know that 95 and 98 are out of support, nor do they really care.
Slow and unwieldy I'll give you, but insecure? Just about every webmail I've seen has been on an https connection, which is lightyears more secure than pop3 and imap, which is what just about everyone uses. Sure there are a handfull of secure pop and secure imap servers out there but look at what just about every ISP/university/corporation offers?
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Perhaps in case you want to uninstall a module. Go ahead, show me how CPAN does that :)
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Which raises the valid question: Is there any way possible to make a movie of LOTR and make it as epic and great as the book?
Frankly, I doubt it. Special effect are not anywhere near as good as my imagination, and actors never exactly the same as I imagine the characters acting when I'm reading something. Not to mention the movies would be 12 hours long each.
I was happy with the first two movies, not because I was expecting to be as good as the books, but because I was hoping to see an a movie that made a good effort to portray the books.
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Really? and you know this because?
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I got it, but I had to really think about for a few seconds.
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I am sure that elves fix my shoes when I fall behind on my work.
I can't explain why, but this just cracked me up.
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Acne is primarily caused by hormones, not food intake.
The occational zit is caused by something blocking pores, again not food intake.
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I'd suggest you keep trying, as tons of people use it daily at home, small offices, major corporations, and large universities. Not exactly "useless". More like one of the most popular open source projects.
I suggest getting in touch with your local linux user group. I'm not sure why you had problems with help forums and documentation, but someone local to you wuld probably be able to walk you through it.
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Prime example:
I just bought a 13w3->vga adaptor from clapro (ebay id). it was $12 with shipping. I have since called and emailed him multiple times and he always has a lame excuse (isp was down, paperwork missing, no record of me paying, etc) and he always promises to call or email back when this is sorted out. Well, it has been a month and a half since I send the money to him via Paypal (I also sent him my email reciept). He has never returned an email and has never called me. Obviously I have not gotten the part in the mail either.
I'm figuring he is never going to make good on this. I got ripped of for $13. Not enough to really do anything over, but still pretty crummy. I ended up winning another 13w3->vga auction and got the part in the mail 3 days later.
The funny thing is, he never claimed it was lost in the mail, probably because I requested a UPS tracking number several times, which he has refused to give.
He has a mostly great rating, with a handful of people who reported the same thing I did. Probably not activly scamming people, just lazy and unable to fix his own problems.
Finkployd
In a vanilla corporate environment, a lot of the Mac advantages just don't mean a lot. Why pay for a bunch of crap that your users don't need?
I completly agree, although there are some people who DO need these features, and buying Apple makes sense for them. I never said Apple was a magic bullet solution to everyone's problems. Just that it is also silly to say that they are overpriced for everyone since you can get a featureless basic x86 box for much cheaper.
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"nitch"?
FFS. It's "niche".
Learn to spell.
Oh, stop nitch picking everything.
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You should actually try the control-click thing on a Mac laptop.
I did for a while on my iMac. Believe me, I really wanted to use the Apple mouse that came with it for asthetic reasons alone (I mean, it looks so damn cool). After a few weeks I just had to go out and get a different mouse.
I actually find control-clicking faster than glancing down to see if my thumb is over the right button.
Not me. I use a Logitech trackman marble, my thumb operates the marble, my index finger hits the left button, my middle finger hits the scroll wheel/middle button, and my ring finger hits the right button.
Just an opinion. BTW, contextual menus are not 'necessary' for executing certain commands in OS X like they are in other operating systems.
While that is true to an extent (right clicking and hitting move to trash/unmount will always be faster than dragging something to the trash can IMHO), I also do quite a bit of work using Unix apps running in X11.
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Which is great for desktops (I'm typing on a Mac desktop now) but I will not but an Apple laptop until they fix this one button insanity. I should not have to carry an external mouse around with me wherever I go.
And it is not like the space isn't there, the mouse button on an iBook is larger than the two/three buttons on most PC laptops combined.
Finkployd
you'll see Dell P4's for $400-500 bucks. Seriously, what Mac can compare?
None, but then those sub $1000 PC cannot compare to Macs feature wise. Raw CPU speed is not eveything. What video card are we talking about? Gig Ethernet? Firewire? etc. When you do an actual comparison using features, you will find the cost difference to be much closer. The Mac will still be more expensive, but not as much.
AutoCAD? GIS apps? Engineering apps?
Nitch apps. If you need them don't use a Mac. If I need to do hardcore video editing I'm sure not going to use a PC. If I want a really stable high end server I'm running AIX on an SP cluster of RS/6000s. Nobody said Macs were suitable for every nitch.
Those hip, trendy commercials don't help either. I want a box to crunch numbers
You want a Cray or perhaps a cluster of some type then.
Finkployd
Perhaps you should read what the framers of the constitution had written on that very subject. It is somewhat at odds with your interpretation. They were quite clear that the "well regulated militia" part was not a condition but a justification AND, that it literally meant every able bodied man. If their intent was what you believe, than it would have been worded "the right of the militia". However this right (like every other right in the bill of rights) was granted to the people. Because it included a justification does not change the meaning of the word "people'.
Regarding what the militia is, my readings indicate that the framers had in mind a system very similiar to how Switzerland works today. Every citizen has a military rifle and is required to report to training manuvers every so often, and be ready to defend their country at a moments notice. Pretty much exactly how the colonies operated. So has the governments failure to maintain this system end up negating this right? The law does not think so obviously, since guns are legal (in pretty much everywhere but the most crime ridden places, NYC, DC, etc)
Frankly, it think it is long past due that we amend this amendment to clarify once and for all exactly what it means. The wording is unfortunate no matter which side you come down on.
Either way it is irrelevant since it would be socially impossible to ban firearms in the US. We can't even ban drugs (and failed miserably at banning booze).
Finkployd
As a general rule, the east cost is significantly more heavily armed than the west. NYC and DC being the exception. Riots (assuming the leave the inner city and hear out to the burbs) might go a little differently around here.
Finkployd
I'm sorry, so what you are saying is that in this context, the phrase "the people" means something completly different than it does in the other amendments in the bill of rights?
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I like the BSD license just fine, but I'd be concerned that if the GPL is ruled invalid, that the BSD license wouldn't be valid either.
Neither will any site license of commercial software.
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I can name a few that still offer plain-text POP and IMAP, but I know of none that don't provide SSLed POP and IMAP as an option (I occassionally compare notes with other similar universities (Ivies, Big Ten, etc.).
By and large, most still offer plaintext POP and IMAP.
You are correct in that it is getting better and more and more universities offer secure protocols. HOWEVER, in my experience nobody (or very few) use them until the plaintext protocols are turned off. People will continue to use what is easiest and what they have used in the past until they are forced to change. Case in point, my school (PSU) offered SFTP for years but it was rarely used. only after turning off FTP did we find that people used SFTP (realistically they had no choise). Technically it was a simple move, politically it was a nightmare.
Finkployd
How do you think the mail is transferred between the mailservers? SMTP, maybe? ...genious...
First up, when you are sarcastically refering to someone as a genius, it helps to spell it correctly, otherwise it somes across as sadly ironic.
Second, I am fully aware of the fact that SMTP is a plaintext protocol. The solution to this is to encrypt your email using PGP or S/MIME. However, that has NOTHING to do with what protocol you use to connect to the mail server, which is what we were talking about.
Two different issues, two different solutions. Arguably both should be used for total security but they do not have anything to do with each other otherwise.
Finkployd
Wow, aren't we bitter and rude.
There are two completly different issues here, one is authentication into the mail server, another is the privacy and authenticity of the email itself.
Now try to keep up with this, it is not complicated:
When I am comparing IMAP, POP, and HTTPS we are talking about the protocol used to connect to the mailserver itself, and how secure it is with regard to your account id and password. This method of connecting has absolutly no relevance to the privacy or integrity of your email once it has left your mail server and it on its way to another. Mail you send with POP, Secure POP, KPOP, IMAP, Secure IMAP, or over webmail via HTTP or HTTPS can be either encrypted or plaintext. The protocol has NOTHING to do with this.
The issue you being up can be solved via either PGP or S/MIME. This again is TOTALLY independant of the protocol used to connect to the mail server.
Up until your post, this thread was only about the protocol used to connect to the mail server, not about the integrity/privacy of the email itself as it traverses SMTP servers. I agree both issues need addressed but they have nothing to do with each other.
Finkployd
Ok, so I will grant you ISPs, however that assumes you never check your ISP mail from work, school, or anywhere other than dialed into them. That still leaves universities and corporations. Some are smart and turn off plaintext pop and imap, many do not.
And https only needs to have it's encryption cracked? Have you been cracking 128 bit (actually mine are all 1024 or 2048) RSA keypairs? I'm going to have to call "not a chance" on that one.
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2. Penn State University (my fiancee's school)
They all three offer IMAP with SSL.
I'm somewhat familiar with PSU myself, but I do not believe we offer IMAP with SSL. Perhaps some department runs their own mail server and does, but not the central email server.
We does however support KPOP, and Secure POP is coming soon.
Finkployd
They are also generally handled by people who know how to. Well I guess maybe not propane but scuba tanks are usually handled by people trained in how to handle them.
Think of all the abuse computers suffer at the hands of the technically challanged...now imagine them treating something potentially explosive with the same care.
Not that I'm saying it would be all that bad, but I'm sure there will be a few "accidents" if this tech becomes commonplace.
Finkployd
Upgrade windows? Nobody does that. Ok, sometimes corporations and universities may try to stay on the last supported OS. Let's face it though, joe sixpack runs whatever came on his PC, be it windows 95, 98, me, or (hopefully) one of the more recent ones. Most people do not know that 95 and 98 are out of support, nor do they really care.
Finkployd
Slow and unwieldy I'll give you, but insecure? Just about every webmail I've seen has been on an https connection, which is lightyears more secure than pop3 and imap, which is what just about everyone uses. Sure there are a handfull of secure pop and secure imap servers out there but look at what just about every ISP/university/corporation offers?
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