I honestly cannot understand this type of thinking. You have a free (block the banner ads if it bothers you) service that provides some news and discussion, why can you not just take from this site what you like and ignore the rest.
Why does everyone feel slashdot must conform to their own personal view of what is "geek news"?! Quit being so damn selfish everyone! Just cause you aren't interested in it doesn't mean everyone feels the same way.
Actually a very good chance, from what I've seen the majority of the linux/390 mailing list thinks this is the way to go. s/390 has a completly different memory management system and linux supports it very poorly. By forking development on that end can continue faster, than someday perhaps be merged back in. Right now work is hindered by Linus who (rightfully so) is concerned about the impact that s/390 related changes would have on other plaforms.
Actually, IBM has been trying to give back it's improvements, but they clash with the other archs. There will probably be a kernel fork in the near future.
I know there are FAR more reliable... but they also cost a great deal more... why not get a HA Cluster?
You hit the nail on the head. They are far more reliable. Not to mention IO speeds that blow anything else out of the water and security that has been harded over the decades.
Don't get me wrong, I love linux, but there are some large scale operations that simply couldn't run on a cluster. Plus nothing comes close in terms of fault tolerance and redundancy.
When I worked in a local computer store near a huge college, we did the same thing. We routinly sold systems with no OS, and were very friendly to Linux people (ok, I was, but I was the sales rep everyone got referred to when they said "linux")
Bottom line, if the computer store isn't willing to give you what you want (ie computer without windows) then don't give them your business. Too many of the stores that will follow this article's advice exist only to fleece people and prey on the computer illiterate anyway. Look for the store that caters to the 'computer savvy' crowd.
Hemos,
Slashdot is popular. It's popular because people like it. The ones who are vocal and bitch about everything are the minority. There are many more of us who like this site and have visited it for years but do so quietly.
That's a nice rant, but what makes you say that? I've noticed quite a bit of varied opinions here (on more than just text editors, for that matter) and very little (if any) references to skin color.
As for us telling poor people what do to, we all have our opinions on the the state of the world, and we tend to discuss them, but I don't see any of us enforcing our opinion on others. Not many sysadmins are making decisions that affect columbian peasants.
Are you suggesting that until we force all groups of people (rich, poor, black, white) to engage in/. discussion, we have no right to discuss anything? It sure sounds that way.
I guess I might have read too much into your first post.
I agree that some people have it harder, so what? This country is build in the ideal that anyone can succede, not that everyone will, and not that everyone will be able to easily. This whole "the world has to be fair" this kind of annoys me since, I've had the cards stacked against me too, but I chose to just work harder because of that.
I understand that computers will not guarentee an easier way for inner city kids to succede, but it would sure be a powerfull tool for those that are INTERESTED in bettering themselves. If you don't have they origional drive, nothing is going to help you.
I love it when priveleged whites in the suburbs think that they live in the same America as those in the inner cities.
(note: I'm white, so in your eyes this may invalidate my entire comment)
I know some inner city youths who were in drugs, stealing car stereos, street fighting, etc. One of them decided to try to make something of himself, so he got a job in construction (after interviewing for two years trying to get in somewhere, and getting a GED at the same time) and worked till he had enough to go to a semester of college as a provisional student. He currently completly supports himself and alternated between going to college and working to pay for it. He now has a pretty good job and lives a much better life.
You know what else, he does all this without resentment toward those who were more "priveleged" than him, and doesn't constantly dwell on how hard he had it. Maybe that is what would fix the inner city. Looking at life as a challange to create your own "priveleges" instead of "I was born disadvantaged, so I'm not even going to try and be successful...someone else should help me"
I think it might have more to do with the fact that is sounds like he worked his butt off learning and absorbing all he could, instead of whining about his "disadvantages".
Anyone can go from any class to any other class in this country. It's not feudalism where you are born a peasant and must stay that way. Sure it's not going to be as easy for everyone, some start out with disadvantages. But if they spend all their time complaining about their disadvantages instead of working that much harder at learning useful skills, no amount of help will make them successful.
Perhaps that would be better, but I think we all know the RIAA would never accept it. That are not after a piece of the "online distribution" game, they are after the WHOLE game. The own distribution in every other media, and they will not rest until they completly control online distribution as well. If they can't they will buy enough laws to make online distribution illegal.
That said, I would STILL rather a system be devised to pay the artists directly.
As it's been said before, Gates has been very important in the computer world as we know it. However, I don't see how anyone can include him in a list of important TECH people. Marketing, maybe. Software legal issues, sure he's had plenty to say. But Tech? Come on, what has he himself created?.
Getting the gnome version of jabber (the only working linux version, AFAIK) to compile is nearly impossible. Even after meeting all of it's insane library requirements it still likes to crap out on random errors.
I don't think anyone was bitching that they weren't using their own server OS, we thought it was humorous that they tried to move it to NT and failed, leaving it running whatever open source OS it started with (FreeBSD? IIRC)
You would think that they would learn from their own mistakes, and admit that NT is not the answer for EVERYTHING and let well enough alone, but they will probably attempt another conversion and cause plenty of outages in the process.
One of my views is all of this is that there WILL be losers. If we decided to not adopt new technology everytime it could threaten someone's livelyhood or a company, we would still be in the stone age. Airplanes hurt the railroad industry, better plastics killed the steel industry, better fuel killed coal mining, the printing press killed the "scribe" industry. It happens.
Digital music and other media will certinly drive a stake in the current media industry, and possibly destroy careers, record stores, and record executives, but what should we do? Just declare this as far as we will go technologically and stop here to make sure we don't hurt anyone?
I'll still stick to my method, and hope that the artists embrass it, because either way, I don't see the RIAA having the kind of airtight grip on the music industry in 10 years it has today. Hopefully the artists will be able to evolve with the rest of the world.
That I agree with completly. If I had the time and intelligence to do this (I might have the intelligence, but I don't have the time to find out) I would certainly not give them the details of it. That would only make them stronger when I want them to fail.
I prefer to download music "illegally" then send money forectly to the musicians. It takes more time but it's better for all involved.
That being said, I still think that article sounds like someone calling hackers "chickens" and trying to entice them to fix the SDMI's problems.
Sure, it could have it's place. However, from the media executives point of view wouldn't it be even better if secure, or time restricted media were the ONLY choise. Then they could do what they tried and failed to do with DIVX.
Lets face it, they have shown time and again in their action and words that they feel "fair use" is their enemy, the public cannot be trusted with unsecure media, and that they NEED total control over it. This is just another step towards the world media execs ideal world, where EVERYTHING is pay per view.
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I honestly cannot understand this type of thinking. You have a free (block the banner ads if it bothers you) service that provides some news and discussion, why can you not just take from this site what you like and ignore the rest.
Why does everyone feel slashdot must conform to their own personal view of what is "geek news"?! Quit being so damn selfish everyone! Just cause you aren't interested in it doesn't mean everyone feels the same way.
Finkployd
Simple, he's smart. You don't get to be rich by paying for something when a free, suitable alternative exists :)
Finkployd
Actually a very good chance, from what I've seen the majority of the linux/390 mailing list thinks this is the way to go. s/390 has a completly different memory management system and linux supports it very poorly. By forking development on that end can continue faster, than someday perhaps be merged back in. Right now work is hindered by Linus who (rightfully so) is concerned about the impact that s/390 related changes would have on other plaforms.
Finkployd
Actually, IBM has been trying to give back it's improvements, but they clash with the other archs. There will probably be a kernel fork in the near future.
Finkployd
I can't believe you used "mainframe" and "hip" in the same thought :)
Finkployd
Mainframe Systems Programmer
I know there are FAR more reliable... but they also cost a great deal more... why not get a HA Cluster?
You hit the nail on the head. They are far more reliable. Not to mention IO speeds that blow anything else out of the water and security that has been harded over the decades.
Don't get me wrong, I love linux, but there are some large scale operations that simply couldn't run on a cluster. Plus nothing comes close in terms of fault tolerance and redundancy.
Finkployd
Oh please, it'll be an option.
Do you really think they are going to give up the most reliable OS in history?
Windows uptime measures in days
Linux uptime measures in years
MVS uptime measures in decades
:)
Finkployd
When I worked in a local computer store near a huge college, we did the same thing. We routinly sold systems with no OS, and were very friendly to Linux people (ok, I was, but I was the sales rep everyone got referred to when they said "linux")
Bottom line, if the computer store isn't willing to give you what you want (ie computer without windows) then don't give them your business. Too many of the stores that will follow this article's advice exist only to fleece people and prey on the computer illiterate anyway. Look for the store that caters to the 'computer savvy' crowd.
Finkployd
Hemos,
Slashdot is popular. It's popular because people like it. The ones who are vocal and bitch about everything are the minority. There are many more of us who like this site and have visited it for years but do so quietly.
Finkployd
That's a nice rant, but what makes you say that? I've noticed quite a bit of varied opinions here (on more than just text editors, for that matter) and very little (if any) references to skin color.
/. discussion, we have no right to discuss anything? It sure sounds that way.
As for us telling poor people what do to, we all have our opinions on the the state of the world, and we tend to discuss them, but I don't see any of us enforcing our opinion on others. Not many sysadmins are making decisions that affect columbian peasants.
Are you suggesting that until we force all groups of people (rich, poor, black, white) to engage in
Finkployd
I guess I might have read too much into your first post.
I agree that some people have it harder, so what? This country is build in the ideal that anyone can succede, not that everyone will, and not that everyone will be able to easily. This whole "the world has to be fair" this kind of annoys me since, I've had the cards stacked against me too, but I chose to just work harder because of that.
I understand that computers will not guarentee an easier way for inner city kids to succede, but it would sure be a powerfull tool for those that are INTERESTED in bettering themselves. If you don't have they origional drive, nothing is going to help you.
Finkployd
I love it when priveleged whites in the suburbs think that they live in the same America as those in the inner cities.
(note: I'm white, so in your eyes this may invalidate my entire comment)
I know some inner city youths who were in drugs, stealing car stereos, street fighting, etc. One of them decided to try to make something of himself, so he got a job in construction (after interviewing for two years trying to get in somewhere, and getting a GED at the same time) and worked till he had enough to go to a semester of college as a provisional student. He currently completly supports himself and alternated between going to college and working to pay for it. He now has a pretty good job and lives a much better life.
You know what else, he does all this without resentment toward those who were more "priveleged" than him, and doesn't constantly dwell on how hard he had it. Maybe that is what would fix the inner city. Looking at life as a challange to create your own "priveleges" instead of "I was born disadvantaged, so I'm not even going to try and be successful...someone else should help me"
Finkployd
I think it might have more to do with the fact that is sounds like he worked his butt off learning and absorbing all he could, instead of whining about his "disadvantages".
Anyone can go from any class to any other class in this country. It's not feudalism where you are born a peasant and must stay that way. Sure it's not going to be as easy for everyone, some start out with disadvantages. But if they spend all their time complaining about their disadvantages instead of working that much harder at learning useful skills, no amount of help will make them successful.
Finkployd
Troll!!! I called him first :)
Finkployd
Perhaps that would be better, but I think we all know the RIAA would never accept it. That are not after a piece of the "online distribution" game, they are after the WHOLE game. The own distribution in every other media, and they will not rest until they completly control online distribution as well. If they can't they will buy enough laws to make online distribution illegal.
That said, I would STILL rather a system be devised to pay the artists directly.
Finkployd
As it's been said before, Gates has been very important in the computer world as we know it. However, I don't see how anyone can include him in a list of important TECH people. Marketing, maybe. Software legal issues, sure he's had plenty to say. But Tech? Come on, what has he himself created?.
Finkployd
I'm high as a kite and my teeth are green, marry fucking christmas :)
Finkployd
Getting the gnome version of jabber (the only working linux version, AFAIK) to compile is nearly impossible. Even after meeting all of it's insane library requirements it still likes to crap out on random errors.
Finkployd
Or you could just skip it and read the stories that interest you.
Just a though.
Finkployd
I don't think anyone was bitching that they weren't using their own server OS, we thought it was humorous that they tried to move it to NT and failed, leaving it running whatever open source OS it started with (FreeBSD? IIRC)
You would think that they would learn from their own mistakes, and admit that NT is not the answer for EVERYTHING and let well enough alone, but they will probably attempt another conversion and cause plenty of outages in the process.
Finkployd
That's how I feel about my hair too :)
My geek house makes frequest trips for "burritos as big as your head" as well :)
Finkployd
That's a good point.
One of my views is all of this is that there WILL be losers. If we decided to not adopt new technology everytime it could threaten someone's livelyhood or a company, we would still be in the stone age. Airplanes hurt the railroad industry, better plastics killed the steel industry, better fuel killed coal mining, the printing press killed the "scribe" industry. It happens.
Digital music and other media will certinly drive a stake in the current media industry, and possibly destroy careers, record stores, and record executives, but what should we do? Just declare this as far as we will go technologically and stop here to make sure we don't hurt anyone?
I'll still stick to my method, and hope that the artists embrass it, because either way, I don't see the RIAA having the kind of airtight grip on the music industry in 10 years it has today. Hopefully the artists will be able to evolve with the rest of the world.
Finkployd
That I agree with completly. If I had the time and intelligence to do this (I might have the intelligence, but I don't have the time to find out) I would certainly not give them the details of it. That would only make them stronger when I want them to fail.
I prefer to download music "illegally" then send money forectly to the musicians. It takes more time but it's better for all involved.
That being said, I still think that article sounds like someone calling hackers "chickens" and trying to entice them to fix the SDMI's problems.
Finkployd
Sure, it could have it's place. However, from the media executives point of view wouldn't it be even better if secure, or time restricted media were the ONLY choise. Then they could do what they tried and failed to do with DIVX.
Lets face it, they have shown time and again in their action and words that they feel "fair use" is their enemy, the public cannot be trusted with unsecure media, and that they NEED total control over it. This is just another step towards the world media execs ideal world, where EVERYTHING is pay per view.
Finkployd