And if they make a way (could already exist, I've never done Linux programming) so that any program can run under any GUI, whether it's Gnome, KDE, whatever. I think that would provide so that everyone could still have things tailor made for them, yet everything is compatible and it makes it easier for companies to make a linux version of their product.
Only if you already know exactly what you want. There are times I go to get a specific program in Synaptic and then see something else I want to add on that's related to it. You don't get that with the cli.
You don't NEED to use CLI for apt because of Synatpic -- wonderful graphical interface for managing apt. And no, I'm not a Linux expert, just someone who wanted to try something new, and now I mainly use Linux (was using Ubuntu for a long time but recently switched to an unofficial offshoot of Ubuntu, Linux Mint).
Actually, MS has been working on Win 7 all along (though not under that name). Then they said "crap, look at how far OS X has come, we need to get something out the door now" so they took what was finished with Win 7 and shoved it out the door as Vista. Then they kept working on Win 7 and took public response into consideration and made changes to Win 7 as necessary to make it better than Vista. Also, the smartest thing they did with Win 7 (and one of the things leading to such a quick release) is that all drivers that work on Vista will work on Win 7. That means that hardware companies that already have Vista drivers, they don't have to do anything other than a quick check to make sure everything works just fine and do an update if there are some bugs.
I've used Vista, Vista SP1, and Windows 7 beta -- Windows 7 is NOT Vista SP2. Your whole theory rests on the fact that they just copied and pasted the "Help" section over from Vista because the UI is almost identical and therefore "what do I need to click to do X" is almost identical.
Another huge cause of the current problem is that during Clinton's administration, the government started putting massive pressure on banks to give mortgages to people that the banks normally wouldn't (because the banks knew they couldn't make the payments!) because the government thought "everyone should own a home" even if they couldn't afford one. A decade and a half later, we all of the sudden have a massive number of people who can't pay their mortgages and even more who can't once the economy starts going down and hourly workers start getting their hours cut.
I saw no mention of this in TFA, so I'm assuming they did NOT kill Aero before running games. That sucks a LOT of graphics power to have Aero running in the background. Under Win 7 64-bit I take about a 40% hit in fps from XP sp3, yet if I kill Aero it drops down to only about a 10% hit. Right now, I'll stick with XP, but eventually due to video cars ever increasing ram, I WILL have to start running a 64-bit OS and I'll most likely get Win 7 because so far the beta runs pretty damn well.
The only OO problem I ever had was with Calc lagging when moving to another cell. It was sporadic, but seeing as how I was doing econometrics stuff in it, there were a LOT of numbers and it really got on my nerves. Also, this only happened under Ubuntu, never had that issue with OO on XP. I agree though, they should do something to speed things up.
And those mindless people will continue to use IE because it's what they know and they refuse to learn anything new. You can't stop people from being willfully stupid (well, you CAN but it's illegal to shoot someone unless you work for the government).
Yea, MS's "monopoly" sure kept me from downloading Firefox, Open Office, Ubuntu, buying a Mac, etc. There ARE alternatives out there, all the "evil monopoly" bullshit is people who either don't like MS products or (if they're a company or government) just want to steal money from the richest software company out there.
The people who wouldn't go looking for an alternative browser don't WANT something other than IE. Hell, I even know well educated IT people who say ".....why should I use anything other than IE?" and explanations about security and such don't even phase them. It's what they know and they refuse to use anything else. Even if MS would somehow be forced to have windows include Firefox and Opera by default and no IE, many people would rush out first thing and download IE because "it looks right" or some other brain dead argument.
Population density. The European definition of suburbs is much closer to the city center and has a much higher population density than the American definition of suburbs. That's why when people always say "But look at Europe's public transportation" it's because they fail to realize that while Europe has 82 Million people living in Germany, the US has a little over 3 times that many people living in a country more than 10 times the size.
We should be ashamed that an idiot American bought a product without knowing the details of said product, got EXACTLY what she ordered, didn't bother to learn how to use it properly, then dropped out of school and blames it on not knowing how to properly use the product she bought?
I'm not an expert Linux user, far from it. However, I have a fully functioning brain and if something doesn't work I *GASP!* FIND HELP, whether it's a friend, going on the internet, etc.
You should be ashamed for defending such complete stupidity and self-created helplessness -- it's the mentality of people like her that's causing the US to fall behind.
Except that in order to GET an Ubuntu system from Dell, you HAVE to do a search on Dell's site for Ubuntu (ok, maybe Linux might work as well, haven't tried that one). The point is still the same -- she went looking for an Ubuntu system, god only knows why when she can barely find the power button on a computer, but she got what she ordered and she didn't order it by accident.
"Specifically, many consumers are still unaware of the changeover, or believe that they will need a new television or cable/satellite provider to continue receiving service."
Are you kidding me? For the small percentage that don't have cable / satellite, how could you possibly miss the unending (and extremely irritating) ads on all the main broadcasting stations about the change, how to know if you'll need to get a converter box, where to get one, how to get a discount / free one, and where to find more information if you still have questions? Anyone who's still unaware or confused about things has something seriously wrong with them to have missed out on this for the last year or else never uses a TV and as such it doesn't affect them anyways.
I agree with you 99.99999% -- the one thing MS did NOT learn from Vista is having DirectX 10 being made part of the OS. DirectX 10 SUCKS for gaming -- I have Win 7 64-bit installed on my gaming rig (wanted to test compatibility with my older games, such as Baldur's Gate, which didn't run right under XP 64-bit) and using the in-game benchmark for World in Conflict, I saw about a 45% drop in frame rates with all settings the same as in XP (my gaming rig is NOT a lightweight, so I had all settings maxed). In XP this game runs amazingly with all settings maxed -- in Win 7 it's hitting lows of 6 fps occasionally, which is unplayable. I'm really liking Windows 7 so far, and will probably buy a copy when it's released.......however, it kills me that DirectX 10 still pulls down gaming performance that much.
Well, apparently you have a large bank account that you live off of (so you don't have to go to work, and as a result don't have any idiot co-workers) and you never leave your house. Must be nice. Those of us stuck in the real world though have to put up with these morons on a daily basis.
That is incredibly critical. "[C]ompletely useless", "nothing of value". Better off dead, in other words? You must have suffered a great injustice to be so spiteful.
Yes, they are better off dead because they do nothing but drag intelligent people down. Suffered a great injustice? Meh. Just go out and be around these people in your daily life (whether it's them wasting your time at the bank, the grocery store, because they're too wrapped up in putting on makeup to drive their car on the road, etc) and you should quickly realize my disdain for them.
I couldn't care less if they acknowledge me. I realize from your posts that you're horribly wrapped up in your ego and think everyone else is, but I'm not (can't speak for others). However, I despise those people because they're completely useless and have nothing of value to offer the world. That's why so many football players in high school grow up to be brain dead football coaches who "teach" (I use sarcastic quotation marks) history (since they can just read straight form the history book and not actually understand the material). They do nothing but lower the quality of life for everyone else.
The reason I mentioned logic was because that was what the person you originally responded to was talking about. I guess you should apply your amazing talents and actually read the post you respond to. =D
If you enjoy shelling out a few hundred dollars for MS Office when you could get Open Office that does the same exact stuff (actually, even more due to a few extra programs included in Open Office), that's your choice to throw your money away. I'm not saying everyone should HAVE to use Open Office, but why pay a LOT of money for word processing / spreadsheets when you can get it for free?
Only those with mental retardation or other conditions keeping them from having a fully functioning brain fall under the category of "unable to understand basic math or logic". Those people are not expected to understand these concepts because we realize that due to crap circumstances beyond their control, they're physically incapable of it. However, all the idiots in Hollywood, at the jock table, the cheerleaders, etc ARE capable of learning basic math and logic, they CHOOSE not to because "it's not cool" and since for so many people (at least in the Western world) their goal is to be cool, they choose to be morons....and we all see where that's leading our society....
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And if they make a way (could already exist, I've never done Linux programming) so that any program can run under any GUI, whether it's Gnome, KDE, whatever. I think that would provide so that everyone could still have things tailor made for them, yet everything is compatible and it makes it easier for companies to make a linux version of their product.
Only if you already know exactly what you want. There are times I go to get a specific program in Synaptic and then see something else I want to add on that's related to it. You don't get that with the cli.
You don't NEED to use CLI for apt because of Synatpic -- wonderful graphical interface for managing apt. And no, I'm not a Linux expert, just someone who wanted to try something new, and now I mainly use Linux (was using Ubuntu for a long time but recently switched to an unofficial offshoot of Ubuntu, Linux Mint).
It works just fine for me. Maybe you're not clicking the right icon? =D
Actually, MS has been working on Win 7 all along (though not under that name). Then they said "crap, look at how far OS X has come, we need to get something out the door now" so they took what was finished with Win 7 and shoved it out the door as Vista. Then they kept working on Win 7 and took public response into consideration and made changes to Win 7 as necessary to make it better than Vista. Also, the smartest thing they did with Win 7 (and one of the things leading to such a quick release) is that all drivers that work on Vista will work on Win 7. That means that hardware companies that already have Vista drivers, they don't have to do anything other than a quick check to make sure everything works just fine and do an update if there are some bugs.
I've used Vista, Vista SP1, and Windows 7 beta -- Windows 7 is NOT Vista SP2. Your whole theory rests on the fact that they just copied and pasted the "Help" section over from Vista because the UI is almost identical and therefore "what do I need to click to do X" is almost identical.
Another huge cause of the current problem is that during Clinton's administration, the government started putting massive pressure on banks to give mortgages to people that the banks normally wouldn't (because the banks knew they couldn't make the payments!) because the government thought "everyone should own a home" even if they couldn't afford one. A decade and a half later, we all of the sudden have a massive number of people who can't pay their mortgages and even more who can't once the economy starts going down and hourly workers start getting their hours cut.
I saw no mention of this in TFA, so I'm assuming they did NOT kill Aero before running games. That sucks a LOT of graphics power to have Aero running in the background. Under Win 7 64-bit I take about a 40% hit in fps from XP sp3, yet if I kill Aero it drops down to only about a 10% hit. Right now, I'll stick with XP, but eventually due to video cars ever increasing ram, I WILL have to start running a 64-bit OS and I'll most likely get Win 7 because so far the beta runs pretty damn well.
In Soviet Russia, Operating System develops YOU! DUN-DUN-DUNNNNNNNNNNNN!
The only OO problem I ever had was with Calc lagging when moving to another cell. It was sporadic, but seeing as how I was doing econometrics stuff in it, there were a LOT of numbers and it really got on my nerves. Also, this only happened under Ubuntu, never had that issue with OO on XP. I agree though, they should do something to speed things up.
And those mindless people will continue to use IE because it's what they know and they refuse to learn anything new. You can't stop people from being willfully stupid (well, you CAN but it's illegal to shoot someone unless you work for the government).
Yea, MS's "monopoly" sure kept me from downloading Firefox, Open Office, Ubuntu, buying a Mac, etc. There ARE alternatives out there, all the "evil monopoly" bullshit is people who either don't like MS products or (if they're a company or government) just want to steal money from the richest software company out there.
The people who wouldn't go looking for an alternative browser don't WANT something other than IE. Hell, I even know well educated IT people who say ".....why should I use anything other than IE?" and explanations about security and such don't even phase them. It's what they know and they refuse to use anything else. Even if MS would somehow be forced to have windows include Firefox and Opera by default and no IE, many people would rush out first thing and download IE because "it looks right" or some other brain dead argument.
Population density. The European definition of suburbs is much closer to the city center and has a much higher population density than the American definition of suburbs. That's why when people always say "But look at Europe's public transportation" it's because they fail to realize that while Europe has 82 Million people living in Germany, the US has a little over 3 times that many people living in a country more than 10 times the size.
We should be ashamed that an idiot American bought a product without knowing the details of said product, got EXACTLY what she ordered, didn't bother to learn how to use it properly, then dropped out of school and blames it on not knowing how to properly use the product she bought?
I'm not an expert Linux user, far from it. However, I have a fully functioning brain and if something doesn't work I *GASP!* FIND HELP, whether it's a friend, going on the internet, etc.
You should be ashamed for defending such complete stupidity and self-created helplessness -- it's the mentality of people like her that's causing the US to fall behind.
Except that in order to GET an Ubuntu system from Dell, you HAVE to do a search on Dell's site for Ubuntu (ok, maybe Linux might work as well, haven't tried that one). The point is still the same -- she went looking for an Ubuntu system, god only knows why when she can barely find the power button on a computer, but she got what she ordered and she didn't order it by accident.
"Specifically, many consumers are still unaware of the changeover, or believe that they will need a new television or cable/satellite provider to continue receiving service."
Are you kidding me? For the small percentage that don't have cable / satellite, how could you possibly miss the unending (and extremely irritating) ads on all the main broadcasting stations about the change, how to know if you'll need to get a converter box, where to get one, how to get a discount / free one, and where to find more information if you still have questions? Anyone who's still unaware or confused about things has something seriously wrong with them to have missed out on this for the last year or else never uses a TV and as such it doesn't affect them anyways.
...Obama's not even in office yet and he's already got the beginnings of a corruption scandal going. I think this is a new record!
I agree with you 99.99999% -- the one thing MS did NOT learn from Vista is having DirectX 10 being made part of the OS. DirectX 10 SUCKS for gaming -- I have Win 7 64-bit installed on my gaming rig (wanted to test compatibility with my older games, such as Baldur's Gate, which didn't run right under XP 64-bit) and using the in-game benchmark for World in Conflict, I saw about a 45% drop in frame rates with all settings the same as in XP (my gaming rig is NOT a lightweight, so I had all settings maxed). In XP this game runs amazingly with all settings maxed -- in Win 7 it's hitting lows of 6 fps occasionally, which is unplayable. I'm really liking Windows 7 so far, and will probably buy a copy when it's released.......however, it kills me that DirectX 10 still pulls down gaming performance that much.
Well, apparently you have a large bank account that you live off of (so you don't have to go to work, and as a result don't have any idiot co-workers) and you never leave your house. Must be nice. Those of us stuck in the real world though have to put up with these morons on a daily basis.
That is incredibly critical. "[C]ompletely useless", "nothing of value". Better off dead, in other words? You must have suffered a great injustice to be so spiteful.
Yes, they are better off dead because they do nothing but drag intelligent people down. Suffered a great injustice? Meh. Just go out and be around these people in your daily life (whether it's them wasting your time at the bank, the grocery store, because they're too wrapped up in putting on makeup to drive their car on the road, etc) and you should quickly realize my disdain for them.
I couldn't care less if they acknowledge me. I realize from your posts that you're horribly wrapped up in your ego and think everyone else is, but I'm not (can't speak for others). However, I despise those people because they're completely useless and have nothing of value to offer the world. That's why so many football players in high school grow up to be brain dead football coaches who "teach" (I use sarcastic quotation marks) history (since they can just read straight form the history book and not actually understand the material). They do nothing but lower the quality of life for everyone else.
The reason I mentioned logic was because that was what the person you originally responded to was talking about. I guess you should apply your amazing talents and actually read the post you respond to. =D
If you enjoy shelling out a few hundred dollars for MS Office when you could get Open Office that does the same exact stuff (actually, even more due to a few extra programs included in Open Office), that's your choice to throw your money away. I'm not saying everyone should HAVE to use Open Office, but why pay a LOT of money for word processing / spreadsheets when you can get it for free?
Only those with mental retardation or other conditions keeping them from having a fully functioning brain fall under the category of "unable to understand basic math or logic". Those people are not expected to understand these concepts because we realize that due to crap circumstances beyond their control, they're physically incapable of it. However, all the idiots in Hollywood, at the jock table, the cheerleaders, etc ARE capable of learning basic math and logic, they CHOOSE not to because "it's not cool" and since for so many people (at least in the Western world) their goal is to be cool, they choose to be morons....and we all see where that's leading our society....
You need to go to the link using IE and install MS Download Manager (which it forces you to use to download the beta).