It's funny that when a free-market proponent says government monopolization of some good or service "crowds out" for-profit competition we get called names. It's also funny that when we point out that these companies with government sanctioned monopolies aren't really operating in a free-market environment we get accused of using the "no true scotsman" fallacy.
In the case of sexism there is a lot of evidence to suggest that it runs through society itself. To be clear Anita doesn't blame individuals most of the time, she merely points out that a lot of it is the result of tropes and cultural baggage.... She does have a point though, there are things in our society and shared culture that are sexist, and by being aware of them we can at least try to change them.
Maybe that's true. The problem is I'm seeing a lot of this directed at tech and gamer communities, and I see a huge bias there because these same people don't offer any kind of vocal opposition to the rampant misogyny, antisocial behavior, and glorification of violence in, say, rap videos and "Fuck Bitches" stickers I see on cars owned by lower class young males. Which makes me think this isn't about misogyny at all, but rather victim politics, and seeing an opportunity to scream at privileged white males.
Yes, and, I think it is an interesting thought experiment to take that small minority of bad actors from Ferguson who rioted, and see what would happen if we publicly blamed ALL the black protesters for their actions. Then you can see how silly it is, to say we have a "culture of misogyny", when really we just have some individual people who act in an antisocial and sometimes illegal manner. Blame the offenders, not some arbitrary group they are part of.
Or maybe the racist federal war on drugs: "Since the 1980s, federal penalties for crack were 100 times harsher than those for powder cocaine, with African Americans disproportionately sentenced to much lengthier terms.".
There are trackable numbers for the SIM AND the phone itself. I believe it was IMEI in GSM phones. It's been a few years since I was in telecom, but I'm sure UMTS has something analogous.
Refusal to disclose is different from lying. It's the choice of the consumer to ingest when they have access to information that tells them "the producer is hiding something".
Nope. I'm opposed to the war on drugs, and I have no problem with Big Tobacco, so long as they do business honestly. In my opinion, as long as they don't lie, I don't even think they should be prevented from various advertising, or need to have safety warnings on their cancer sticks.
Darnit, that " as a software engineer with 30 years experience" should have read only 20 years experience. Can't edit, I'm sorry. And, while I'm at it, starting salaries are in the 35K range, give or take a little. My teacher friend said his district's contract really didn't show much gains until 14 or 15 years, where he said what they call "The Lifestyle Change" kicked in. The meaning being having 20 years experience was WAY better than 15, compared to 15 vs. 10.
And if other nations scaled back on excess defense spending, the ones who rely on them would have the option of stepping it up. It's not an either/or thing, and it's dynamic.
There is a huge gaping chasm between a huge military that can only be justified by imperial interventionism abroad, and just enough military to safely defend the continent. One could argue the latter wouldn't need to be highly centralized, even, except maybe the navy and a small air corps. He, also, seemed to miss that point, as you did.
Those are fair questions. There is no question the people in teaching in my area (Philly suburbs) have done very well in pay due to people arguing that there is some kind of across the board national problem with teacher pay. A teacher with 20 years experience probably makes as much per hour as a software engineer with 30 years experience, but has better benefits and retirement. I think you're looking at about $80-$85K for a 180 day school year year w/ master's degree (which was paid for by the employer, and can be passed by a carrot) and 20 years experience in MANY of the districts in the region.
I bet back in the days computer science was more of an high engineering education than it is now
No, it was math. It was engineering for a little while in the 90s. Now it's like accounting - mostly applied software engineering, unless it's a top school.
we could stand to learn a lot from independent more decentralized cultures from all over the world if they were studied as such, but they are put down as primitive and backwards in history class, while the great white empire of the east india trading company and royal academy of sciences is touted as the greatest achievements of mankind
Yes. I was having this argument with a self-described progressive, who, when faced with me saying, "maybe we don't need to be militarily great, and can learn to live humbly, and trade freely with people without having a huge *@#(ing military" responded with, "But every great nation has to be made that way by having a strong central military" or some such rubbish. It boggled me that someone who nominally claims interest in peace equated greatness with military might. It's downright disturbing.
And some of those scales include doing this within a government agency. There are a LOT of blacks who would say this perfectly well describes their local, publicly-funded police departments. If you don't believe me, look at the indictment and conviction rates, and sentencing averages for blacks vs. whites for nonviolent drug crimes. What you're describing doesn't have *anything* to do with free market vs. government systems.
"What do you think of the immigrants coming and taking your jobs and lowering your salary. My honest response was, "Without the kind of talent the people I'm working with bring to this country, my company wouldn't exist."
Wait.... you understand that "most of the visas" are "trade school hacks", "clearly underskilled", with "false resumes". That most of this program is just to undercut the local employees. You are fully cognizant of this.... and when someone asked you what you thought about that... you ignored the question and how themajority of the system operates, and focused on how well the system worked for your company.
Huh.
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it, honestly. I've got about 20 years work experience today. At the time I was asked (not quite 10 years ago), I was pretty lucky to have worked at shops where we had mostly good talent, and there really weren't enough trade school hacks for me to recognize the larger pattern.
As a tangent, why aren't you working for the high-tech joint anymore? Did they replace you with an Indian PHD and force you to move down into the trenches of web-dev? What do you think of that?
No, while you nailed the first part, you got this 100% wrong. I'm thankful to have worked with the talented people I did, and I left voluntarily. I left because I was moving back to a regulated product from an unregulated one, and I felt my skills withering when I worked on the regulated stuff because 80% or more of my time was in meetings getting documents approved and very little time coding. I am in fact a full-stack web dev now and though I miss working on high tech, I realize that I have broader employability in my geographic region in case my current employment stint doesn't work out. I do miss the awesome test lab and "gee whiz" factor sometimes, but I'm WAYYYY better at actually writing code, because I do it almost all day, almost every day.
Yeah, I have no disagreement with what you say. It feels sometimes like some of these guys WANT low-skill, low-pay workers not only because they're cheap, but because it helps them reinforce their notions of superiority. Or something. Like they get more of a kick out of underpaying for poor quality work that treating someone as a quality employee worth investing in and having a better business for it.
I have no problem with the many talented Indian and Chinese engineers and programmers I worked with at my last job. Most of them were excellent. That job was a pretty high-tech joint that didn't just employ software people, but also hardware, RF, scientists, etc.
It was strange when I came to my current job that the Indian programmers applying for jobs here were CLEARLY underskilled hacks, with recruiter-edited false resumes. This place is basically a web shop with a database backed product. Some interesting problems, but nothing like the last one. The guys here couldn't even relate to what I was telling them about the highly talented Indian and Chinese programmers at my last place.
I was once asked point blank, by a union employee of the public school system, "What do you think of the immigrants coming and taking your jobs and lowering your salary. My honest response was, "Without the kind of talent the people I'm working with bring to this country, my company wouldn't exist."
I'm not saying there aren't obvious profound flaws with the rest of what the tool in this article is saying, but I will admit that I am perfectly willing to invite top talent to this country if it means businesses operate here. That's hugely different from the 95% of trade school hacks who account for most of the visas, but I'm still happy to welcome those 5% (or 1%, or whatever).
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It's funny that when a free-market proponent says government monopolization of some good or service "crowds out" for-profit competition we get called names. It's also funny that when we point out that these companies with government sanctioned monopolies aren't really operating in a free-market environment we get accused of using the "no true scotsman" fallacy.
In the case of sexism there is a lot of evidence to suggest that it runs through society itself. To be clear Anita doesn't blame individuals most of the time, she merely points out that a lot of it is the result of tropes and cultural baggage. ... She does have a point though, there are things in our society and shared culture that are sexist, and by being aware of them we can at least try to change them.
Maybe that's true. The problem is I'm seeing a lot of this directed at tech and gamer communities, and I see a huge bias there because these same people don't offer any kind of vocal opposition to the rampant misogyny, antisocial behavior, and glorification of violence in, say, rap videos and "Fuck Bitches" stickers I see on cars owned by lower class young males. Which makes me think this isn't about misogyny at all, but rather victim politics, and seeing an opportunity to scream at privileged white males.
Yes, and, I think it is an interesting thought experiment to take that small minority of bad actors from Ferguson who rioted, and see what would happen if we publicly blamed ALL the black protesters for their actions. Then you can see how silly it is, to say we have a "culture of misogyny", when really we just have some individual people who act in an antisocial and sometimes illegal manner. Blame the offenders, not some arbitrary group they are part of.
You're cherry-picking information to attack libertarians, and your argument is flawed. Perhaps you forgot about the Japanese during WWII, or maybe the fact that state nullification of Federal laws was first used to protect people being pursued under the Fugitive Slave Act.
Or maybe the racist federal war on drugs: "Since the 1980s, federal penalties for crack were 100 times harsher than those for powder cocaine, with African Americans disproportionately sentenced to much lengthier terms.".
As long as you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. Now bend over.
There are trackable numbers for the SIM AND the phone itself. I believe it was IMEI in GSM phones. It's been a few years since I was in telecom, but I'm sure UMTS has something analogous.
Of course, that's BS, because two wrongs don't make a right. But the new charge is the subject of the story, and that's really what I was getting at.
Refusal to disclose is different from lying. It's the choice of the consumer to ingest when they have access to information that tells them "the producer is hiding something".
Last I heard, all our surviving presidents and most of Congress are walking around free, dude...
Are we married?
Nope. I'm opposed to the war on drugs, and I have no problem with Big Tobacco, so long as they do business honestly. In my opinion, as long as they don't lie, I don't even think they should be prevented from various advertising, or need to have safety warnings on their cancer sticks.
Darnit, that " as a software engineer with 30 years experience" should have read only 20 years experience. Can't edit, I'm sorry. And, while I'm at it, starting salaries are in the 35K range, give or take a little. My teacher friend said his district's contract really didn't show much gains until 14 or 15 years, where he said what they call "The Lifestyle Change" kicked in. The meaning being having 20 years experience was WAY better than 15, compared to 15 vs. 10.
Of facilitating voluntary transactions between consenting adults.
And if other nations scaled back on excess defense spending, the ones who rely on them would have the option of stepping it up. It's not an either/or thing, and it's dynamic.
See my reply above: http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
It's a false dichotomy to say we need enough bombs to blow the world up a million times or be totally undefended.
There is a huge gaping chasm between a huge military that can only be justified by imperial interventionism abroad, and just enough military to safely defend the continent. One could argue the latter wouldn't need to be highly centralized, even, except maybe the navy and a small air corps. He, also, seemed to miss that point, as you did.
I have several friends who have studied biology, and the job market for them while big is way too small for the sheer number of biologists educated.
Advanced degrees (well, really, PhD), or BS only?
Those are fair questions. There is no question the people in teaching in my area (Philly suburbs) have done very well in pay due to people arguing that there is some kind of across the board national problem with teacher pay. A teacher with 20 years experience probably makes as much per hour as a software engineer with 30 years experience, but has better benefits and retirement. I think you're looking at about $80-$85K for a 180 day school year year w/ master's degree (which was paid for by the employer, and can be passed by a carrot) and 20 years experience in MANY of the districts in the region.
I bet back in the days computer science was more of an high engineering education than it is now
No, it was math. It was engineering for a little while in the 90s. Now it's like accounting - mostly applied software engineering, unless it's a top school.
we could stand to learn a lot from independent more decentralized cultures from all over the world if they were studied as such, but they are put down as primitive and backwards in history class, while the great white empire of the east india trading company and royal academy of sciences is touted as the greatest achievements of mankind
Yes. I was having this argument with a self-described progressive, who, when faced with me saying, "maybe we don't need to be militarily great, and can learn to live humbly, and trade freely with people without having a huge *@#(ing military" responded with, "But every great nation has to be made that way by having a strong central military" or some such rubbish. It boggled me that someone who nominally claims interest in peace equated greatness with military might. It's downright disturbing.
I won't mind so much. A shorter, more focused format will get me watching more again.
And some of those scales include doing this within a government agency. There are a LOT of blacks who would say this perfectly well describes their local, publicly-funded police departments. If you don't believe me, look at the indictment and conviction rates, and sentencing averages for blacks vs. whites for nonviolent drug crimes. What you're describing doesn't have *anything* to do with free market vs. government systems.
"What do you think of the immigrants coming and taking your jobs and lowering your salary. My honest response was, "Without the kind of talent the people I'm working with bring to this country, my company wouldn't exist."
Wait.... you understand that "most of the visas" are "trade school hacks", "clearly underskilled", with "false resumes". That most of this program is just to undercut the local employees. You are fully cognizant of this.... and when someone asked you what you thought about that... you ignored the question and how themajority of the system operates, and focused on how well the system worked for your company.
Huh.
Yeah, you pretty much nailed it, honestly. I've got about 20 years work experience today. At the time I was asked (not quite 10 years ago), I was pretty lucky to have worked at shops where we had mostly good talent, and there really weren't enough trade school hacks for me to recognize the larger pattern.
As a tangent, why aren't you working for the high-tech joint anymore? Did they replace you with an Indian PHD and force you to move down into the trenches of web-dev? What do you think of that?
No, while you nailed the first part, you got this 100% wrong. I'm thankful to have worked with the talented people I did, and I left voluntarily. I left because I was moving back to a regulated product from an unregulated one, and I felt my skills withering when I worked on the regulated stuff because 80% or more of my time was in meetings getting documents approved and very little time coding. I am in fact a full-stack web dev now and though I miss working on high tech, I realize that I have broader employability in my geographic region in case my current employment stint doesn't work out. I do miss the awesome test lab and "gee whiz" factor sometimes, but I'm WAYYYY better at actually writing code, because I do it almost all day, almost every day.
Yeah, I have no disagreement with what you say. It feels sometimes like some of these guys WANT low-skill, low-pay workers not only because they're cheap, but because it helps them reinforce their notions of superiority. Or something. Like they get more of a kick out of underpaying for poor quality work that treating someone as a quality employee worth investing in and having a better business for it.
I guess I have karma to burn.
I have no problem with the many talented Indian and Chinese engineers and programmers I worked with at my last job. Most of them were excellent. That job was a pretty high-tech joint that didn't just employ software people, but also hardware, RF, scientists, etc.
It was strange when I came to my current job that the Indian programmers applying for jobs here were CLEARLY underskilled hacks, with recruiter-edited false resumes. This place is basically a web shop with a database backed product. Some interesting problems, but nothing like the last one. The guys here couldn't even relate to what I was telling them about the highly talented Indian and Chinese programmers at my last place.
I was once asked point blank, by a union employee of the public school system, "What do you think of the immigrants coming and taking your jobs and lowering your salary. My honest response was, "Without the kind of talent the people I'm working with bring to this country, my company wouldn't exist."
I'm not saying there aren't obvious profound flaws with the rest of what the tool in this article is saying, but I will admit that I am perfectly willing to invite top talent to this country if it means businesses operate here. That's hugely different from the 95% of trade school hacks who account for most of the visas, but I'm still happy to welcome those 5% (or 1%, or whatever).