You and GP both sound like people who have never studied music seriously (hours a day), while GGP likely has. The level of tactile and other feedback from physical instruments affects performer behavior in ways you can't possibly imagine. The responsiveness of a reed on a mouthpiece, the delicate subtlety of hammer action on a piano while one tries to play legato chords with the pedal which changes the weight of the keys due to the dampers being lifted, the vibration of the low brasses and woodwinds which have an almost massaging effect on the player's facial muscles are all examples I've personally experienced. You may not care, but a musician knows that a digital piano is NOT a digital equivalent of a piano. It is a slightly different instrument which is not an acoustic piano. That doesn't mean it's not a great thing (I love having a digital to play on), but it is not, and will never be an acoustic instrument, and will not produce the same output. That you don't care for some value of "close enough" is a testament to the engineering, not proof of the perfect equivalence of the two.
Then you go ahead and do what you see as beneficial to humanity, and let them do what they see as worthwhile. But before you criticize people attempting something amazing that you don't see as worthy of your blessing as being beneficial to humanity, ask yourself if you always apply the same judgment to your own actions. I'm sure the ecological footprint of the energy you've used to post on./ is well worth it for disseminating your grand wisdom to the rest of us. Sorry to be a dick, but boy you come across as an arrogant ass in your post, holed away in some ivory basement somewhere.
This completely avoid the conversation about how they are making incremental advances in design and testing technology, of course.
If you didn't notice, the post you criticized on the basis of assuming an MS environment was installed was a response to a comment that already assumed an MS environment was installed. Your statement, then, is meaningless in the context of the conversation you jumped into.
Perhaps more importantly, the post you criticized was suggesting that.Net exe's are as easy to deploy as native exe's. And, given that.Net exe's will run on Linux with Mono, your statement is factually wrong, as you can indeed run exe's on a Linux system without any MS code at all.
Are you saying the current system doesn't screw over poor kids? I think it does: By making more loans available, and for more money, it encourages students to take on debt. Whether they graduate or not, they have debt service payments to make. This reduces their money left over when they leave school (whether as graduates or not). By reducing the number and amount of loans to poor kids, we may not send as many to college, but we'll certainly create less of a debt problem for them.
Better to start off at 18 with no college and no debt than at 20 or 21 with no degree and $50K in debt. Better to start out at 18 with no debt than at 22 or 23 with $80K in debt and miserable job prospects due to a poor choice of degrees.
Finally, the next generation will be paying off the national debt to begin with (through taxes or the impoverishing effects of monetary inflation), so suggesting that using public funds doesn't really solve the problem, it just spreads it around.
Want to fix it? Make student loans subject to bankruptcy laws. That would reduce the number/amount of loans granted, and make colleges price-sensitive. As it is, the lenders have little incentive to consider whether a given loan is likely to pay off (since they either get to collect on it despite bankruptcy or get a federal payoff), so there's no incentive to limit lending to what can reasonably be paid back.
I think you are failing to consider the substantial factors of housing, faculty, general facilities, and overhead/administrative costs when saying "substantially more expensive". The labs and equipment STEM majors use are expensive, but are only a fraction of the total cost, and have a long life span.
100 Meg? What are you writing, a tiny console app? I freely praise the MS development tools, and VS is fantastic, but 100 meg after a day of developing is not even close to my experience (working on a medium-size web app with a few hundred source files across maybe ten projects). 600 meg is pretty close, though.
how about you fix your anti-virus software so it doesn't freeze, crash, block access to portable drives silently while it scans them, and leak memory like a sieve.
Amen to that. My whole office stops meaningful work for several hours on Wednesdays when the scheduled Sophos scan begins. It takes my dual core system w/ 4GB ram and a 10,000 rpm hard drive fifteen minutes to become usable after booting because of Sophos start-up scans. Sophos is a garbage product and their company is garbage, and I hope they go out of business.
It's sad to see someone who once mobilized communities and got people to take responsibility for their own future (Operation PUSH) revert to nothing but finger-pointing and blame.
I remember a quote from PC Magazine in the 80s stating "We see the 286 primarily as a multi-user system. No one will ever need that much power on their desktop."
Ok, I can qualify this by saying "in my experience", which I'm happy to do. I grew up Catholic in Delaware County, PA, and most of the Protestants I knew were far more liberal than the typical Catholic. Then I moved out a little ways toward the farming areas in Chester County and found a whole new [to me] breed of Protestants, who seemed obsessed with sex and sexuality as the source of evil (while simultaneously convinced that killing Iraqis was God's will). At that time, high speed internet had just become widespread in that area and I was amazed at the extent to which it was feared and literally demonized.
It's good to hear some information that suggests attitudes have changed. I found those congregations so backwards we left the churches we had tried to attend. Maybe it was a quirk of timing and geographic change that gave me that impression. Unfortunately, given the degree of orthodox ignorance that seemed to be required to feel at home in those churches, I won't be going back.
It sucks to be religious and be so frustrated by the people I'd like to worship with, but it seems the only choices around here are "religion-lite" and "fear/hate". Man, that is a sadly negative statement about something important to me...
I base that statement on personal experiences I've had with a specific church (in which the pastor actually said he saw the internet as a great evil) and a broad sampling of people I met through a Christian college. Please note that I used the words "many" and "some". I know I'd never say it's a majority, but it is a significant portion of conservative Protestants who feel that way.
This is funny, but at the same time you have to recognize it's a Jesuit writing it. Jesuits are very much the intellectual rebels of the Catholic Church. Still, I'm pleased to see that the Catholic Church is not virulently anti-Internet, as are many of the conservative Protestant churches in the USA today. It is odd to observe that in many ways the Catholic Church is more progressive than [some] of the Protestants today.
That makes sense, though one might suggest that better teachers ought to teach lower-performing students (might they so choose if it were incentivized?). In the USA, most principals/administrators were once physical education teachers (I saw hard stats on this once but cannot conveniently find them now). So I doubt there is really any strong correlation between teacher quality and advancement in our country. Though I will say in my old high school, one of the best teachers did move on to administration, where he replaced an ex-phys ed teacher who had nearly destroyed the school (allowing two teachers continued employment after evidence of gross, habitual sexual activity with students and himself sexually assaulting a staff member). Any wonder I hated school???
Looks like the pay clause was eliminated in the senate bill, and I could not quickly find evidence that it passed into law (do they have a house that has to pass an identical bill?):
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/q-amp-a-on-floridas-senate-bill-6/1085001
It wasn't at all clear that the "evaluations" had any real impact, as union pressure seems to have defanged the bill.
Slightly off-topic, but where are you that student performance has a significant effect on a teacher's career? As far as I know, student performance is forbidden from being used as any kind of "metric" to gauge teacher performance by the unions in every place I've heard of in the USA.
You're on the ball here. But the question is why the change? And the answer, I believe, is that they were enthralled with the power when they held it. Now that they don't, they have the appropriate response, which is horror.
How strange -- in your sarcasm something really interested came out. The primary function of an economy is not to create jobs. It is to satisfy demand. Some people demand labor, others will sacrifice their time and skill for money. Some people demand music, others will sacrifice money for the music.
An economy is the collected exchange of goods and services, based on one party's desire to make that exchange with another party. This satisfies demand.
Were job creation the only thing required, it would be quite simple to order people to dig ditches and give them fiat currency to do so. You are quite right that many mainstream economists would think that is a good idea.
Let me try: It may be immoral (if you so choose to believe), and it may be murder (if you so choose to believe), but to determine that it happened requires an unacceptable invasion of privacy (either invasion of a person's body, or violation of trust between two adults, just to determine if a third person is being injured). Therefore, the presumption of innocence and protection of individual liberty prevents a legal, libertarian, natural law based intervention to protect the child. No different from the way that we do not (yet) engage in widespread preventive detention because two people might conspire to do something illegal.
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You and GP both sound like people who have never studied music seriously (hours a day), while GGP likely has. The level of tactile and other feedback from physical instruments affects performer behavior in ways you can't possibly imagine. The responsiveness of a reed on a mouthpiece, the delicate subtlety of hammer action on a piano while one tries to play legato chords with the pedal which changes the weight of the keys due to the dampers being lifted, the vibration of the low brasses and woodwinds which have an almost massaging effect on the player's facial muscles are all examples I've personally experienced. You may not care, but a musician knows that a digital piano is NOT a digital equivalent of a piano. It is a slightly different instrument which is not an acoustic piano. That doesn't mean it's not a great thing (I love having a digital to play on), but it is not, and will never be an acoustic instrument, and will not produce the same output. That you don't care for some value of "close enough" is a testament to the engineering, not proof of the perfect equivalence of the two.
Then you go ahead and do what you see as beneficial to humanity, and let them do what they see as worthwhile. But before you criticize people attempting something amazing that you don't see as worthy of your blessing as being beneficial to humanity, ask yourself if you always apply the same judgment to your own actions. I'm sure the ecological footprint of the energy you've used to post on ./ is well worth it for disseminating your grand wisdom to the rest of us. Sorry to be a dick, but boy you come across as an arrogant ass in your post, holed away in some ivory basement somewhere.
This completely avoid the conversation about how they are making incremental advances in design and testing technology, of course.
If you didn't notice, the post you criticized on the basis of assuming an MS environment was installed was a response to a comment that already assumed an MS environment was installed. Your statement, then, is meaningless in the context of the conversation you jumped into.
Perhaps more importantly, the post you criticized was suggesting that .Net exe's are as easy to deploy as native exe's. And, given that .Net exe's will run on Linux with Mono, your statement is factually wrong, as you can indeed run exe's on a Linux system without any MS code at all.
Are you saying the current system doesn't screw over poor kids? I think it does: By making more loans available, and for more money, it encourages students to take on debt. Whether they graduate or not, they have debt service payments to make. This reduces their money left over when they leave school (whether as graduates or not). By reducing the number and amount of loans to poor kids, we may not send as many to college, but we'll certainly create less of a debt problem for them.
Better to start off at 18 with no college and no debt than at 20 or 21 with no degree and $50K in debt. Better to start out at 18 with no debt than at 22 or 23 with $80K in debt and miserable job prospects due to a poor choice of degrees.
Finally, the next generation will be paying off the national debt to begin with (through taxes or the impoverishing effects of monetary inflation), so suggesting that using public funds doesn't really solve the problem, it just spreads it around.
Want to fix it? Make student loans subject to bankruptcy laws. That would reduce the number/amount of loans granted, and make colleges price-sensitive. As it is, the lenders have little incentive to consider whether a given loan is likely to pay off (since they either get to collect on it despite bankruptcy or get a federal payoff), so there's no incentive to limit lending to what can reasonably be paid back.
I think you are failing to consider the substantial factors of housing, faculty, general facilities, and overhead/administrative costs when saying "substantially more expensive". The labs and equipment STEM majors use are expensive, but are only a fraction of the total cost, and have a long life span.
What programs are you getting in HD? Most aren't available in HD as far as I could tell (using my PS3).
100 Meg? What are you writing, a tiny console app? I freely praise the MS development tools, and VS is fantastic, but 100 meg after a day of developing is not even close to my experience (working on a medium-size web app with a few hundred source files across maybe ten projects). 600 meg is pretty close, though.
Where do you live? What do you do? Do you want to change your situation, or are you resigned to it?
He means that it was Brazilians, not the government of Brazil, who built the tower. I think.
how about you fix your anti-virus software so it doesn't freeze, crash, block access to portable drives silently while it scans them, and leak memory like a sieve.
Amen to that. My whole office stops meaningful work for several hours on Wednesdays when the scheduled Sophos scan begins. It takes my dual core system w/ 4GB ram and a 10,000 rpm hard drive fifteen minutes to become usable after booting because of Sophos start-up scans. Sophos is a garbage product and their company is garbage, and I hope they go out of business.
It's sad to see someone who once mobilized communities and got people to take responsibility for their own future (Operation PUSH) revert to nothing but finger-pointing and blame.
That, and he kind of looks like a Zando Zan.
http://www.flixster.com/photos/the-last-starfighter-zando-zan-10902903 http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cz6Pmg2hABQ/TDtWESsMtQI/AAAAAAAAAJM/J7eBwLB4iuQ/s1600/jesse+jackson5.jpg
I remember a quote from PC Magazine in the 80s stating "We see the 286 primarily as a multi-user system. No one will ever need that much power on their desktop."
Ok, I can qualify this by saying "in my experience", which I'm happy to do. I grew up Catholic in Delaware County, PA, and most of the Protestants I knew were far more liberal than the typical Catholic. Then I moved out a little ways toward the farming areas in Chester County and found a whole new [to me] breed of Protestants, who seemed obsessed with sex and sexuality as the source of evil (while simultaneously convinced that killing Iraqis was God's will). At that time, high speed internet had just become widespread in that area and I was amazed at the extent to which it was feared and literally demonized.
It's good to hear some information that suggests attitudes have changed. I found those congregations so backwards we left the churches we had tried to attend. Maybe it was a quirk of timing and geographic change that gave me that impression. Unfortunately, given the degree of orthodox ignorance that seemed to be required to feel at home in those churches, I won't be going back.
It sucks to be religious and be so frustrated by the people I'd like to worship with, but it seems the only choices around here are "religion-lite" and "fear/hate". Man, that is a sadly negative statement about something important to me...
I guess that's why the public schools are so pro-internet as well? http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/24/opinion/main1933687.shtml
I base that statement on personal experiences I've had with a specific church (in which the pastor actually said he saw the internet as a great evil) and a broad sampling of people I met through a Christian college. Please note that I used the words "many" and "some". I know I'd never say it's a majority, but it is a significant portion of conservative Protestants who feel that way.
This is funny, but at the same time you have to recognize it's a Jesuit writing it. Jesuits are very much the intellectual rebels of the Catholic Church. Still, I'm pleased to see that the Catholic Church is not virulently anti-Internet, as are many of the conservative Protestant churches in the USA today. It is odd to observe that in many ways the Catholic Church is more progressive than [some] of the Protestants today.
That makes sense, though one might suggest that better teachers ought to teach lower-performing students (might they so choose if it were incentivized?). In the USA, most principals/administrators were once physical education teachers (I saw hard stats on this once but cannot conveniently find them now). So I doubt there is really any strong correlation between teacher quality and advancement in our country. Though I will say in my old high school, one of the best teachers did move on to administration, where he replaced an ex-phys ed teacher who had nearly destroyed the school (allowing two teachers continued employment after evidence of gross, habitual sexual activity with students and himself sexually assaulting a staff member). Any wonder I hated school???
Looks like the pay clause was eliminated in the senate bill, and I could not quickly find evidence that it passed into law (do they have a house that has to pass an identical bill?): http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/q-amp-a-on-floridas-senate-bill-6/1085001 It wasn't at all clear that the "evaluations" had any real impact, as union pressure seems to have defanged the bill.
Give me a break! I said it was slightly off topic, and asked WHERE the poster was. Sheesh.
Slightly off-topic, but where are you that student performance has a significant effect on a teacher's career? As far as I know, student performance is forbidden from being used as any kind of "metric" to gauge teacher performance by the unions in every place I've heard of in the USA.
You're on the ball here. But the question is why the change? And the answer, I believe, is that they were enthralled with the power when they held it. Now that they don't, they have the appropriate response, which is horror.
You'd almost think they were trying to get cute hippie chicks to notice how sensitive and un-macho they are...
How strange -- in your sarcasm something really interested came out. The primary function of an economy is not to create jobs. It is to satisfy demand. Some people demand labor, others will sacrifice their time and skill for money. Some people demand music, others will sacrifice money for the music.
An economy is the collected exchange of goods and services, based on one party's desire to make that exchange with another party. This satisfies demand.
Were job creation the only thing required, it would be quite simple to order people to dig ditches and give them fiat currency to do so. You are quite right that many mainstream economists would think that is a good idea.
Let me try: It may be immoral (if you so choose to believe), and it may be murder (if you so choose to believe), but to determine that it happened requires an unacceptable invasion of privacy (either invasion of a person's body, or violation of trust between two adults, just to determine if a third person is being injured). Therefore, the presumption of innocence and protection of individual liberty prevents a legal, libertarian, natural law based intervention to protect the child. No different from the way that we do not (yet) engage in widespread preventive detention because two people might conspire to do something illegal.