Do you have any idea just how much your life would suck right now had it not been for the banking system bailout? I'm not talking about Bill Gates's life; I'm talking about your life. Just read up on previous liquidity crises where the federal government did not step in, and look at what happened to the common man like you and me.
are you talking about... the final solution? Really? Just cause they don't have areas of their house they can dump shit into? You really love spewing your stuff I guess. cool.
fine, but, you mention "ad hominem" as if it were a bad thing. It is always valid to attack the man as the man himself brings all his prejudices and ideals to any discussion. By not attacking the man as part of an argument, you miss out on at the very least, setting up valid points of reference for arguments.
hard drives have a very nice strong magnet in them, thus magnets too would be easy and cheap to acquire (just post on craigslist, offer to sledgehammer them when you pick them up for data security), as long as you know how to use basic hand tools.
I think you still don't get it though, do you get that it is a recursive tax? Also, cost of taxes is not equal to the cost of production; that was clear from the original proposition (read it again), otherwise it would quickly crumble as you point out. So like, here's a quick example (for 1 gallon, costs in dollars): In the example below, Charge is the cost to the consumer at the pump. Cost is the cost of production and delivery. Taxes are paid by the oil company from money received in Charge. Profit is the profit of the oil company. Charge $2.0 Cost $1 Taxes $0.5 Profit $0.5 Charge $2.5 Cost $1 Taxes $1.5 Profit $0.0 Charge $3.0 Cost $1 Taxes $2.5 Profit $ -0.5 So, like I said, it is brutal to the oil companies, they only lose by increasing the cost at the pump. In my example which is clearly simplified and working with PFA numbers (but goes with original proposition), they lost $1.00 profit by increasing the cost to the consumer by $1.0, who do you think is going to scream first? Clearly in this case, the oil companies have a lot more to lose than any individual consumer. Notwithstanding the above argument, I am solidly in favor of very high gas prices (although I realize that they are regressive) in order to encourage shorter commutes, more efficient vehicles (like bicycles), and use of public transportation.
yeah, but since all that shit is made in China, it really won't do much to us, might hurt the Chinese but, we've already had enough jobs taken by the multi-nationals that I think a small thing like the doubling in gas prices couldn't hurt much. Even better if it happened internationally, then shipping plastic shit from China might become cost-ineffective and maybe, just maybe the manufacturing jobs would come back. Unless you really think that an economy can be based on buying shit from Wal-Mart and not producing anything of substance.
no, you didn't fix it, you didn't understand. Consumers don't pay this tax, the oil companies do, if they try to pass it on in the forms of increased cost, "wham!" they pay even more. It is a brutal tax, sounds about fair though given that I'm not an oil company. If it drives them out of business, all the better, less gas = less pollution, maybe less shit trucked cross country, back to the horse and buggy days for us all.
I'm not entirely sure that phone cost is a big issue. I hesitate to buy a smart phone for myself because I don't want the $40/mo outlay that I'd have to put out on verizon. The cheapo phones are still ~$100 subsidized price and the android mid-ranges ~$200, so, I think that for most people who can afford a data plan, the cost of the phone hardware itself is not much of a driver.
so, your friend, who works for a youtube competitor, says that their pricing structure is too high to compete with youtube's pricing structure? he suspects that youtube pricing is artificially low? Based on what evidence? Based mainly on the fact that his company can't compete?
The argument was against needing an idiot at the wheel, not against there needing to be orbital maintenance. Presumably (I don't know), the commands for orbital maintenance can be sent remotely. It's not like some dumb-ass astronaut is going to ad-hoc the thrust times and parameters needed for stationkeeping. The benefits of L1 or L2 are, low intensity orbital maintenance, and easier exploration due to relatively ow energy expenditures to move from there (compared to LEO or earth launch). Still have to get stuff to the L1 or L2 points though...
so, you're saying that movie watching time is compressible? I guess it is if you don't mind speeding up movies but I think that, unadulterated, movie watching time is un-compressible. OTOH, maybe with skill and practice, one's reading speed could be increased thus virtually compressing reading time (more like dilating?).
queen ants live for over ten years. The workers scurrying in and out of sunlight, less than a year. Males that mate with the pre-fertilized (soon to be pregnant) female live long enough to mate, they mate in sunlight.
well Bill_the_poor_atSpelling_Engineer (maybe I'll change my username to that in your honor), apparently I give a shit, even on slashdot. We have to have standards you see, if we all start putting out shit, how long till we've devolved to ebonics or some pidgin variant. I'm pretty sure I didn't go off the deep end, I didn't throw out any all-caps or expletives, did I? I am pretty sensitive to the outsourcing although thankfully, as a general principle and not from having been directly impacted by it (didn't lose my job to a Bangladeshi). Please be more attentive in the future so as to not detract from otherwise valuable contributions.
Billy boy is that you? Just a paid astroturfer? Ok, fine, people gotta make a living I guess. I would rather propose that a newer more evil icon be chosen for m$, one with dripping blood, maybe broken teeth and glasses? Something like a Agrajag but more microsofty.
why is that a downside? Patents aren't advancing the sum of human knowledge unless you count the art of practicing patent law and patent trolling, etc. I say lets go to trade secrets instead of patents, for software patents especially.
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..uhm, but, food and oil are and just as out of hand, you dismissed those. How very slick you must think you are.
I'm sure your god appreciates that kind of language as much as your mom does
Do you have any idea just how much your life would suck right now had it not been for the banking system bailout? I'm not talking about Bill Gates's life; I'm talking about your life. Just read up on previous liquidity crises where the federal government did not step in, and look at what happened to the common man like you and me.
citation needed (I call bullshit)
are you talking about... the final solution? Really? Just cause they don't have areas of their house they can dump shit into? You really love spewing your stuff I guess. cool.
fine, but, you mention "ad hominem" as if it were a bad thing. It is always valid to attack the man as the man himself brings all his prejudices and ideals to any discussion. By not attacking the man as part of an argument, you miss out on at the very least, setting up valid points of reference for arguments.
lol! someone mod this funny! please...?
hard drives have a very nice strong magnet in them, thus magnets too would be easy and cheap to acquire (just post on craigslist, offer to sledgehammer them when you pick them up for data security), as long as you know how to use basic hand tools.
what, you couldn't take out the front seat and use the back seat instead as the driver's seat?
I think you still don't get it though, do you get that it is a recursive tax? Also, cost of taxes is not equal to the cost of production; that was clear from the original proposition (read it again), otherwise it would quickly crumble as you point out.
So like, here's a quick example (for 1 gallon, costs in dollars):
In the example below, Charge is the cost to the consumer at the pump. Cost is the cost of production and delivery. Taxes are paid by the oil company from money received in Charge. Profit is the profit of the oil company.
Charge $2.0 Cost $1 Taxes $0.5 Profit $0.5
Charge $2.5 Cost $1 Taxes $1.5 Profit $0.0
Charge $3.0 Cost $1 Taxes $2.5 Profit $ -0.5
So, like I said, it is brutal to the oil companies, they only lose by increasing the cost at the pump. In my example which is clearly simplified and working with PFA numbers (but goes with original proposition), they lost $1.00 profit by increasing the cost to the consumer by $1.0, who do you think is going to scream first? Clearly in this case, the oil companies have a lot more to lose than any individual consumer.
Notwithstanding the above argument, I am solidly in favor of very high gas prices (although I realize that they are regressive) in order to encourage shorter commutes, more efficient vehicles (like bicycles), and use of public transportation.
yeah, but since all that shit is made in China, it really won't do much to us, might hurt the Chinese but, we've already had enough jobs taken by the multi-nationals that I think a small thing like the doubling in gas prices couldn't hurt much. Even better if it happened internationally, then shipping plastic shit from China might become cost-ineffective and maybe, just maybe the manufacturing jobs would come back. Unless you really think that an economy can be based on buying shit from Wal-Mart and not producing anything of substance.
no, you didn't fix it, you didn't understand. Consumers don't pay this tax, the oil companies do, if they try to pass it on in the forms of increased cost, "wham!" they pay even more. It is a brutal tax, sounds about fair though given that I'm not an oil company. If it drives them out of business, all the better, less gas = less pollution, maybe less shit trucked cross country, back to the horse and buggy days for us all.
Scary how true it is, ain't it?
you're a tea-bagger, aren't you?
I'm not entirely sure that phone cost is a big issue. I hesitate to buy a smart phone for myself because I don't want the $40/mo outlay that I'd have to put out on verizon. The cheapo phones are still ~$100 subsidized price and the android mid-ranges ~$200, so, I think that for most people who can afford a data plan, the cost of the phone hardware itself is not much of a driver.
so, your friend, who works for a youtube competitor, says that their pricing structure is too high to compete with youtube's pricing structure? he suspects that youtube pricing is artificially low? Based on what evidence? Based mainly on the fact that his company can't compete?
The argument was against needing an idiot at the wheel, not against there needing to be orbital maintenance. Presumably (I don't know), the commands for orbital maintenance can be sent remotely. It's not like some dumb-ass astronaut is going to ad-hoc the thrust times and parameters needed for stationkeeping. The benefits of L1 or L2 are, low intensity orbital maintenance, and easier exploration due to relatively ow energy expenditures to move from there (compared to LEO or earth launch). Still have to get stuff to the L1 or L2 points though...
oh, bad data like fantasizing that there are WMDs in some deadbeat piece of desert? Glad that was prevented...
so, you're saying that movie watching time is compressible? I guess it is if you don't mind speeding up movies but I think that, unadulterated, movie watching time is un-compressible. OTOH, maybe with skill and practice, one's reading speed could be increased thus virtually compressing reading time (more like dilating?).
forgot the important part, the queen lives out the non-mating part of her life in utter and complete darkness.
queen ants live for over ten years. The workers scurrying in and out of sunlight, less than a year. Males that mate with the pre-fertilized (soon to be pregnant) female live long enough to mate, they mate in sunlight.
well Bill_the_poor_atSpelling_Engineer (maybe I'll change my username to that in your honor), apparently I give a shit, even on slashdot. We have to have standards you see, if we all start putting out shit, how long till we've devolved to ebonics or some pidgin variant. I'm pretty sure I didn't go off the deep end, I didn't throw out any all-caps or expletives, did I? I am pretty sensitive to the outsourcing although thankfully, as a general principle and not from having been directly impacted by it (didn't lose my job to a Bangladeshi). Please be more attentive in the future so as to not detract from otherwise valuable contributions.
+1 funny, lmao
Billy boy is that you? Just a paid astroturfer? Ok, fine, people gotta make a living I guess. I would rather propose that a newer more evil icon be chosen for m$, one with dripping blood, maybe broken teeth and glasses? Something like a Agrajag but more microsofty.
your citation is far from unbiased. Try again.
why is that a downside? Patents aren't advancing the sum of human knowledge unless you count the art of practicing patent law and patent trolling, etc. I say lets go to trade secrets instead of patents, for software patents especially.