You can't wait that long for your next trade, man. What are you talking about 120 second trading? You have to do it at least every 60 seconds. You can't even break a sweat trading at 120 second intervals!!!!!!!!
(not quite as funny as 6 minute abs).
Why? So he can compare a mostly mechanical object with 100 years of continuous improvements to hardware/software that has radically changed in the past 20 years? Or in the case of musical instruments - completely mechanical with thousands of years of improvements.
It is true that software will continue to work for thousands of years, theoretically. If the hardware, the items they interface with (including humans) don't change. Sure the software is good. But to plan for software that has that level of stability in it's environment is rather ridiculous.
So, instead of your one-liner troll statement, why don't you add something to the discussion?
Yes, we have a multi-million dollar machine that runs on NT4.0. They will upgrade it to XP for $20k. But the company won't pay for it. We did however pay to upgrade from XP to 7 on another machine.
The older "must haves" don't get plugged into the network.
How much have roads changed in the last 20 years? Do we now drive on a surface completely un-fathomable just 20 years ago? Have cars increased in power/efficiency by orders of magnitude? Did cars run for 20 years in 1914?
Did you know that my paper cup from my morning coffee is already soaked through and unusable? Why can't they make paper cups to last 20 years like a car?
My dog died last year. He was only 13. Why can't dogs simply live as long as humans?
The other option is allow something to break irreparably at some point, and everyone will go into meltdown crisis mode. *Then* it'll get fixed.
You have to weigh the cost of doing it now vs. doing it then. If your company thinks "then" will be in 10 years, then don't bother now. But be prepared for the meltdown. Either way you have perfectly stated the case that you do not have to "Must keep running XP". You have made a risk-based assessment that it will be cheaper to continue running XP.
Other than your one embedded example, that I don't think pertains to the other 99% of computer you are discussing, I question that it is really that expensive to upgrade to Win 7...
I realize there is more than hardware costs, but did you really expect your software to work for more than 10-15 years without needing an upgrade? Most people in this situation are there because they have deferred the (most likely needed) updates until now. And now they have an unusual number of computers to upgrade. My employer is squarely in this position.
Bite the bullet and upgrade. If you really want to stand firm against M$ or something, simply install any number of old-hardware-friendly linux distros. Knoppix is my current favorite.
Consider your anecdote countered. I know 3 (that I know of) and NONE are intellectually above others of their age. They certainly are not child geniuses like the ones you met. Perhaps that's the problem. Your limited experience was with a brilliant kid outside the mainstream and you have broadstroked all home schooled kids to be brilliant. Not much better than the GP AC, are you?
I do know that all 3 that I know have EXTREMELY religious parents. And the fact that public schools are full of satanic liberals, is the main reason given for home schooling.
One of the parents is even a teacher. But alas, you can't be an expert at chemistry, physics, sociology, biology, algebra, trig, english lit, composition, history, PE, Spanish, band, home-ec, economics, and the many other subjects presented in school. Anyone that thinks so is quite frankly ignorant. You can supplement with other experts, you can meet with groups, you can use the internet, but all in all, it's doubtful that most of the kids get the level of education I was presented with (not that all kids take advantage of it). There is a reason society has moved from subsistence farming to specialization.
I have lived in Texas and the Midwest, both relatively rural. I don't know a single, A SINGLE, person that hunts with a firearm for daily sustenance. NOBODY. I have however, known a couple of guys that fish to supplement, SUPPLEMENT, their food supply.
While this has captured much attention, quite honestly it is a yawner. Did you know that approximately 150,000 other people died that day? I'm willing to bet more than 2500 were preventable in some manner, making that 10x more important than MH370.
When you step back and actually review numbers, many things seem insignificant, if you have no personal feelings or emotions tying you to the event. Like this post, discussion, and website.
Thanks you for bringing this up... Someone mod that guy up!
The only numbers "Vegas" has to come up with are the opening lines... then they adjust as needed. Apparently Denver started as a 3 point favorite for the Super Bowl and it VERY quickly moved to Seattle as the 3 point fav (I could have those backwards).
Can't believe Mercer pulled that off! I too for some reason made some different picks in the billion dollar bracket that I probably shouldn't have. Oh well, Mercer screwed us all anyways!
Seriously, rank by a few simple stats such as rebound margin, scoring margin, turnover margin, win/loss, and steals. Notice how scoring margin predicts pretty well who is ahead in the other stats...
Then take the AP poll and RPI. Rank based on that.
Then average the two, "stat rank" and "rank rank".
I have missed the two #12 over #5 upsets. I should have went ahead and picked the 12 seeds based on historical performance of that seed, but that was not part of my algorithm. Looking back it should have been. Maybe next year I get the Billion!
But the reality is that my Dayton pick wouldn't be bragging rights if a single shot was 2 inches to the left. And until someone's algorithm takes into account the predominate direction and angle of air conditioner vents, plus the amount of food each player ate the night before, it's all still based on the completely un-deterministic play of humans.
As someone that recently switched an entire plant to LibreOffice (plant, not office), let me tell you why those arguments are crap.
1: When is the last time anyone with less than 1000 employees was able to sue a software manufacturer for damages? I want someone with personal experience, not a link. It's just not realistic. Besides, why would you sue over a productivity suite... it's not a customer ERP system?
2: How many times have you needed to contact MS support for an issue with Word? Even Outlook doesn't need support, Exchange does. There is no need for official support for 99% of uses of productivity software.
3: This one gains some traction. That's why I only tried the switch in the plant where none of the users had any idea they were using "MS Office" or "Libre Office". They are mostly consumers of information, and that's pretty easy to switch to another version. Also I recently had to install Libre in the office so a user could open really old.123 files. It's actually better for compatibility. But still not quite widely used.
Feel free to use any of those if you need to explain why you are installing free software instead of paying $300 per seat.
How about this. You work on a piece of software, I'll take the code in whatever form I feel and give it to a big company who will make billions off it, leaving you with squat.
That would be fine with you, right?
Depends if you took a line of code, or the whole thing. Or if you just took an exe. Now you see the difference? No, of course not.
Do you think it would be the same if I took $100 from you, or emptied out your entire life savings? There are scales of bad. Littering is bad. But not as bad as dumping chemicals in a river. Or do you really think we should have the same punishment for littering and mega-corps dumping waste? "It doesn't matter what it was, it wasn't to be dumped in that place", right?
1000 years is enough to want to shoot a cop not to have to go through with the punishment (maybe 30 is too for some). Not the end result that lady was looking for.
Okay first, it's not really uninformed drivel if it's 45% correct (and he only used the word commonly). And that is EXACTLY why my nephews are home schooled.
Anyways, check out this post and see if you can help me understand how smart you have to be to get bored in school to the point of spending quite a bit of money for education.
First, I was in "Gifted & Talented". I was in MENSA and have an IQ of about 140 (not trying to brag as it's probably pretty common here, but it's important later on).
I got in trouble when I was a kid. I was quite mischievous. You could probably say I was bored.
But never was it to the point that my parents felt I needed private education, or special attention. They did support me with computers for a hobby, and I was very active in the sports that so many in this discussion are so bitter about (sorry you got cut from the team, bro).
So just how damn gifted is your child? Are we talking "Searching for Bobby Fischer" gifted? Because that's about.00001% of kids. How was I able to make it through school without complete boredom and yet so many others cannot?
I have a hunch that social skills make more of a difference in this so-called "boredom" in school than pure academic ability. Remember there are TONS of stupid kids that are bored in school everyday.
Actually some cultures say it "1 dollar 99", which would be written 1$99, and could even replace using the decimal point! Imagine the bandwidth savings world wide!
Seriously though, I like it in front. I like how Spanish puts the question/exclamation mark before the sentence so I know how to interpret it as I am reading. This is similar to the date. The day of the month has very little meaning without the context of the month, so instead of wonder how to process that 14 until you say March, I can already know you said March, it's spring time, my birthday is soon, and then when you put in the number I know it's Pi Day even without the year.
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It really doesn't matter how you write the damn thing. When viewed in whole, it means the same thing. Also, that is how it is spoken; and it is spoken that way because the day of the month is absolutely useless with out context of a month. Even just a month can tell you if it was winter or summer, but 14 only tells you rent was due 13 days ago, unless they were talking about April.
But thanks for giving me a reason to post at 00:10 AM, because I am leaving work at 30:3 PM today! Oh, what, smallest to largest doesn't work on that measurement... huh, seems arbitrary.
Agreed. I thought it worked pretty well. But it's too easy to copy. I am sure there is quite a bit of work to truly find the "ORP", but it seems to me that you can let your eyes go a bit fuzzy and just center the damn word in the box. Without that little feature, it's just splitting a string based on spaces, spitting out one array item at a time, then pause for x number of ms.
It was displaced by the "one cellphone per child" consumer-initiated movement.
Bingo!
If it weren't for Apple trying to get $40 per Android phone, we could be seeing $100 cell phones more powerful than the original OLPC.
They just need to teach basic electronics, give away the assembly that charged the battery with a crank, and let poor people adapt it to fit whatever cell phone battery they have.
My question is quite simply what type of protection should a company be provided to prevent effectively wholesale copying of their product. Denying that this is what Samsung did is disingenuous, especially in the first rounds of Galaxy products.
NONE!!! Can I make the font bigger? NONE
Just how much do you want to pay for new tires? Replacement heater coil? Replacement bearings? Etc?
There are entire companies whose job it is to copy other people's shit. It's called the "aftermarket" industry. You do not want it to go away!
I recently worked for one of these companies. It was very interesting to see the OEM charge $2500 for a product. Right up until we released the equivalent replacement part, and suddenly they charged $1500. Sometimes even $1000 to try to keep us from entering that product mix.
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You can't wait that long for your next trade, man. What are you talking about 120 second trading? You have to do it at least every 60 seconds. You can't even break a sweat trading at 120 second intervals!!!!!!!! (not quite as funny as 6 minute abs).
Replying to myself to say that the NT4.0 box is probably more secure than upgrading to XP at this point.
Why? So he can compare a mostly mechanical object with 100 years of continuous improvements to hardware/software that has radically changed in the past 20 years? Or in the case of musical instruments - completely mechanical with thousands of years of improvements.
It is true that software will continue to work for thousands of years, theoretically. If the hardware, the items they interface with (including humans) don't change. Sure the software is good. But to plan for software that has that level of stability in it's environment is rather ridiculous.
So, instead of your one-liner troll statement, why don't you add something to the discussion?
Yes, we have a multi-million dollar machine that runs on NT4.0. They will upgrade it to XP for $20k. But the company won't pay for it. We did however pay to upgrade from XP to 7 on another machine.
The older "must haves" don't get plugged into the network.
How much have roads changed in the last 20 years? Do we now drive on a surface completely un-fathomable just 20 years ago? Have cars increased in power/efficiency by orders of magnitude? Did cars run for 20 years in 1914?
Did you know that my paper cup from my morning coffee is already soaked through and unusable? Why can't they make paper cups to last 20 years like a car?
My dog died last year. He was only 13. Why can't dogs simply live as long as humans?
Do you have any more stupid propositions?
The other option is allow something to break irreparably at some point, and everyone will go into meltdown crisis mode. *Then* it'll get fixed.
You have to weigh the cost of doing it now vs. doing it then. If your company thinks "then" will be in 10 years, then don't bother now. But be prepared for the meltdown. Either way you have perfectly stated the case that you do not have to "Must keep running XP". You have made a risk-based assessment that it will be cheaper to continue running XP.
Other than your one embedded example, that I don't think pertains to the other 99% of computer you are discussing, I question that it is really that expensive to upgrade to Win 7...
I realize there is more than hardware costs, but did you really expect your software to work for more than 10-15 years without needing an upgrade? Most people in this situation are there because they have deferred the (most likely needed) updates until now. And now they have an unusual number of computers to upgrade. My employer is squarely in this position.
Bite the bullet and upgrade. If you really want to stand firm against M$ or something, simply install any number of old-hardware-friendly linux distros. Knoppix is my current favorite.
Consider your anecdote countered. I know 3 (that I know of) and NONE are intellectually above others of their age. They certainly are not child geniuses like the ones you met. Perhaps that's the problem. Your limited experience was with a brilliant kid outside the mainstream and you have broadstroked all home schooled kids to be brilliant. Not much better than the GP AC, are you?
I do know that all 3 that I know have EXTREMELY religious parents. And the fact that public schools are full of satanic liberals, is the main reason given for home schooling.
One of the parents is even a teacher. But alas, you can't be an expert at chemistry, physics, sociology, biology, algebra, trig, english lit, composition, history, PE, Spanish, band, home-ec, economics, and the many other subjects presented in school. Anyone that thinks so is quite frankly ignorant. You can supplement with other experts, you can meet with groups, you can use the internet, but all in all, it's doubtful that most of the kids get the level of education I was presented with (not that all kids take advantage of it). There is a reason society has moved from subsistence farming to specialization.
No True Scotsman. That was pretty easy to debunk in 3 words.
I have lived in Texas and the Midwest, both relatively rural. I don't know a single, A SINGLE, person that hunts with a firearm for daily sustenance. NOBODY. I have however, known a couple of guys that fish to supplement, SUPPLEMENT, their food supply.
While this has captured much attention, quite honestly it is a yawner. Did you know that approximately 150,000 other people died that day? I'm willing to bet more than 2500 were preventable in some manner, making that 10x more important than MH370.
When you step back and actually review numbers, many things seem insignificant, if you have no personal feelings or emotions tying you to the event. Like this post, discussion, and website.
It probably has something to do with how much BTC has increased in value over the past few years.
Thanks you for bringing this up... Someone mod that guy up!
The only numbers "Vegas" has to come up with are the opening lines... then they adjust as needed. Apparently Denver started as a 3 point favorite for the Super Bowl and it VERY quickly moved to Seattle as the 3 point fav (I could have those backwards).
Can't believe Mercer pulled that off! I too for some reason made some different picks in the billion dollar bracket that I probably shouldn't have. Oh well, Mercer screwed us all anyways!
Which means my algorithm is better than Nate's!
Seriously, rank by a few simple stats such as rebound margin, scoring margin, turnover margin, win/loss, and steals. Notice how scoring margin predicts pretty well who is ahead in the other stats...
Then take the AP poll and RPI. Rank based on that.
Then average the two, "stat rank" and "rank rank".
I have missed the two #12 over #5 upsets. I should have went ahead and picked the 12 seeds based on historical performance of that seed, but that was not part of my algorithm. Looking back it should have been. Maybe next year I get the Billion!
But the reality is that my Dayton pick wouldn't be bragging rights if a single shot was 2 inches to the left. And until someone's algorithm takes into account the predominate direction and angle of air conditioner vents, plus the amount of food each player ate the night before, it's all still based on the completely un-deterministic play of humans.
As someone that recently switched an entire plant to LibreOffice (plant, not office), let me tell you why those arguments are crap.
.123 files. It's actually better for compatibility. But still not quite widely used.
1: When is the last time anyone with less than 1000 employees was able to sue a software manufacturer for damages? I want someone with personal experience, not a link. It's just not realistic. Besides, why would you sue over a productivity suite... it's not a customer ERP system?
2: How many times have you needed to contact MS support for an issue with Word? Even Outlook doesn't need support, Exchange does. There is no need for official support for 99% of uses of productivity software.
3: This one gains some traction. That's why I only tried the switch in the plant where none of the users had any idea they were using "MS Office" or "Libre Office". They are mostly consumers of information, and that's pretty easy to switch to another version. Also I recently had to install Libre in the office so a user could open really old
Feel free to use any of those if you need to explain why you are installing free software instead of paying $300 per seat.
How about this. You work on a piece of software, I'll take the code in whatever form I feel and give it to a big company who will make billions off it, leaving you with squat. That would be fine with you, right?
Depends if you took a line of code, or the whole thing. Or if you just took an exe. Now you see the difference? No, of course not.
Do you think it would be the same if I took $100 from you, or emptied out your entire life savings? There are scales of bad. Littering is bad. But not as bad as dumping chemicals in a river. Or do you really think we should have the same punishment for littering and mega-corps dumping waste? "It doesn't matter what it was, it wasn't to be dumped in that place", right?
1000 years is enough to want to shoot a cop not to have to go through with the punishment (maybe 30 is too for some). Not the end result that lady was looking for.
Okay first, it's not really uninformed drivel if it's 45% correct (and he only used the word commonly). And that is EXACTLY why my nephews are home schooled.
Anyways, check out this post and see if you can help me understand how smart you have to be to get bored in school to the point of spending quite a bit of money for education.
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I need some clarification here...
.00001% of kids. How was I able to make it through school without complete boredom and yet so many others cannot?
First, I was in "Gifted & Talented". I was in MENSA and have an IQ of about 140 (not trying to brag as it's probably pretty common here, but it's important later on).
I got in trouble when I was a kid. I was quite mischievous. You could probably say I was bored.
But never was it to the point that my parents felt I needed private education, or special attention. They did support me with computers for a hobby, and I was very active in the sports that so many in this discussion are so bitter about (sorry you got cut from the team, bro).
So just how damn gifted is your child? Are we talking "Searching for Bobby Fischer" gifted? Because that's about
I have a hunch that social skills make more of a difference in this so-called "boredom" in school than pure academic ability. Remember there are TONS of stupid kids that are bored in school everyday.
Actually some cultures say it "1 dollar 99", which would be written 1$99, and could even replace using the decimal point! Imagine the bandwidth savings world wide!
Seriously though, I like it in front. I like how Spanish puts the question/exclamation mark before the sentence so I know how to interpret it as I am reading. This is similar to the date. The day of the month has very little meaning without the context of the month, so instead of wonder how to process that 14 until you say March, I can already know you said March, it's spring time, my birthday is soon, and then when you put in the number I know it's Pi Day even without the year.
It really doesn't matter how you write the damn thing. When viewed in whole, it means the same thing. Also, that is how it is spoken; and it is spoken that way because the day of the month is absolutely useless with out context of a month. Even just a month can tell you if it was winter or summer, but 14 only tells you rent was due 13 days ago, unless they were talking about April.
But thanks for giving me a reason to post at 00:10 AM, because I am leaving work at 30:3 PM today! Oh, what, smallest to largest doesn't work on that measurement... huh, seems arbitrary.
Agreed. I thought it worked pretty well. But it's too easy to copy. I am sure there is quite a bit of work to truly find the "ORP", but it seems to me that you can let your eyes go a bit fuzzy and just center the damn word in the box. Without that little feature, it's just splitting a string based on spaces, spitting out one array item at a time, then pause for x number of ms.
It was displaced by the "one cellphone per child" consumer-initiated movement.
Bingo! If it weren't for Apple trying to get $40 per Android phone, we could be seeing $100 cell phones more powerful than the original OLPC.
They just need to teach basic electronics, give away the assembly that charged the battery with a crank, and let poor people adapt it to fit whatever cell phone battery they have.
My question is quite simply what type of protection should a company be provided to prevent effectively wholesale copying of their product. Denying that this is what Samsung did is disingenuous, especially in the first rounds of Galaxy products.
NONE!!! Can I make the font bigger? NONE
Just how much do you want to pay for new tires? Replacement heater coil? Replacement bearings? Etc?
There are entire companies whose job it is to copy other people's shit. It's called the "aftermarket" industry. You do not want it to go away!
I recently worked for one of these companies. It was very interesting to see the OEM charge $2500 for a product. Right up until we released the equivalent replacement part, and suddenly they charged $1500. Sometimes even $1000 to try to keep us from entering that product mix.