I can tell my girlfriend, "working late tonight, I'll be home in an hour," or my D&D buddies, "On my way, be there 30 minutes," or a couple of my coworkers, "Meet for lunch at Rudy's BBQ", and it only takes ten seconds of my time and effectively none of theirs. I can even send the same message to half a dozen people at once, and that's much faster than calling half a dozen people and repeating the same conversation every time. If, for some reason, they need to answer the message, they can also do so without disturbing any people around them who don't want to listen to somebody chatting on their cell phone.
Does that make more sense? Yes, text messages are a horribly inefficient way of having a conversation, but they're not for conversing, they're for disseminating information.
I was going to say that if you play D n D, you don't have a girlfriend, so quite lying.
Then you talked about Rudy's. Rudy's in the Galleria?:)
Huh? I refuse to break common semantics because of American military jargon. A soldier is someone serving in AN army, not THE army, to the rest of the world. Whatever we term them per specific branch doesn't change the fact that they all are soldiers.
Its like the PC newspeak thing ("personhole covers", etc...), except for the military.
lol.
Don't speak American Jargon when you are speaking the official language of America and talking of an American Military.
Yeah, that makes sense. Should we call the USAF the Wermacht?
You turned this into a rant against open source in only a few posts. Nice.
First, most of the coax and copper rolled out was put in place a LONG time ago, and the costs for doing so have been recovered many times over by the owner. Second, there was a rule that phone companies had to at least lease the lines at fair prices to other providers, not free as you tried to slip in to the argument, but fair competitive prices so that the line owner was compensated while still allowing for competition. That is gone now and what everyone knew would happen, did. There is one DSL provider in most areas if not all areas, and they ALL FUCKING SUCK.
Competition between classes is not a solution, nether is dial-up so don't even try to pretend its relevant anymore, and satellite has ~800ms latency which is not acceptable, not to mention its ALSO slower than DSL anyway. You can pretend latency doesn't matter but it shows you are being short sighted, try working on a remote server with SSH and tell me 1 second latency doesn't matter.
Well, I can tell we will have to disagree on the subject, since you won't let anything else be relevant on the matter, it can't be.
Satellite doesn't exist. DSL doesn't, either. Cable modems, according to you, are useless in the areas they are in, as is any other type of internet connection.
Amazingly, I USE both AT&T DSL as well as a microwave link. I'm happy with both. I'd be happier with Comcast for my internet (I've not had any issues with packet dropping, etc., but then again, I don't really use Bittorrent or any other technology designed for noobs. FTP encrypted works fine for me, and no speed problems, either), but my wife decided to get a "package deal", and it's OK here.
Dialup, I use it, on the road, for my business. My tethered pocketPC operates on EDGE speeds, so I know what dialup is, still use it, etc.
As to DSL providers sucking, exactly what is your bitch against them, as well? Again, I don't have a problem with mine, consistently get a meg and a half throughput downstream and 384K upstream (which, magically, is what we pay for). I've HAD shitty service. Speakeasy, based out of Seattle, after a year, bought me my home theater system due to the fact that my total uptime on the Redback was 30 days for 365 days of service on a business class line. They "partnered" with Covad, which blew balls. Of course, I have enough intelligence to understand that if I purchase my Inet line through the company that actually owns the lines, I'll probably get better service when I need it, but Speakeasy was "recommended" by a friend. I now go to AT&T to get DSL. Other companies can be had in the Ca Bay Area for DSL, but why?
Sorry, I don't share your views that a company should be forced to lease, rent or otherwise give away infrastructure they paid to implement. How about, after you finish paying off your house, I move in and tell you, fuck you, there is nothing you can do about it. You already recouped your monies by living here since the inception of your mortgage. Yeah, I thought so. The companies that put those cables in, did so at a risk. Some cable operators are OUT of business trying to roll out HS internet. Some companies didn't know what the internet WAS when they started laying cable. Regardless, telling a company they "have" to rent their lines to another company with absolutely NO expenditure during the buildout process is communistic and / or socialistic. If you honestly believe that, thank GOD your not someone making laws or enforcing them where I live. I'd like to be able to make business decisions based upon my own interest, thanks. Otherwise, I'll go to work for someone else.
I have no beef with open source, thanks. I have a beef with someone / an ideal / etc. that believes anyone who wants to profit from their ideals / ideas / inventions / etc. is wrong. A company / business has a right to exist. It should NOT have to share everything in and of itself, if it doesn't want to (and
In many areas the local government has granted specific companies exclusive rights to operate coax runs, that's a monopoly on cable internet service in that specific area, no other company can come in and offer cable internet service. The same is true of DSL, whoever owns the lines can jack up prices and neglect to upgrade their network, and they do.
The effect is that you don't have true competition, in any given area you have at most 2-3 competitors between classes of service, and its obviously not enough. You can claim there is no monopoly on "internet service" but that's not the point, there are still damaging effects on the market.
An example, Comcast is only rolling out DOCSIS3 in areas where FiOS is a threat, and Verizon is only rolling out FiOS in areas where other services are a threat. If they were forced to compete with other providers for the same service type they wouldn't be playing these fucking games.
1. So, to draw a conclusion from your own post, you can see that most companies are rolling out new technologies where they have to to stay competitive. Sounds like sound business premise to me, but what do I know.
2. As far as companies being granted de facto use of the lines they themselves paid to have laid, and in some cases have to lease from other utility companies, that's called incentive. They don't > to come in, at the cost of millions, and either acquire the rights of way to install the equipment to provide infrastructure, nor do they have to even decide to do business in a community. It DOES cost, MILLIONS, to come in and put cable in, and in most cases of above ground, they end up paying a lease on the "tower space" on the poles from another utility. Explain to me how they should be forced to give another company access to their lines they took the risk of investing in. (Some cable companies have actually gone BROKE and are currently OUT OF BUSINESS because of attempting to provide broadband, so it isn't an unheard of risk).
I forgot, (and this will surely be popular) slashdot is usually of the opinion that nobody owns anything, and as long as you pay homage to the people your "borrowing" from, it's OK. Well, in the real world, where millions of dollars of other people's money (investors) are involved, the whole open source concept won't go too far, especially when it comes to utilities.
Still, if you have more than one or two options, and you just decide they all suck, that doesn't mean there is a monopoly. And as such, you shouldn't have the rights to come use lines I paid and took risk in installing "just because you want to 'give it a shot'".
Just my two cents worth, and of course, your mileage seems to vary.
It's called reality. And making an analogy akin to flying cars is well.... Not reality.
Welcome to the real world. Where actually having a choice is NOT akin to NOT having a choice.
Call it flamebait, call it trolling, call it whatever you want. It's still a fact, if you have more than one or two completely different (companies, technologies, etc), nobody has a monopoly. Granted, it isn't coming over the same cable line or phone line (but, remember, you can get other DSL companies to give you your ISP, but it is still the "phone company" giving you the last mile), but wireless / satellite / cellular technology means you don't HAVE to be tied to the last mile now.
I've used satellite and I've used wireless. WiFi was / is just as good as wired internet for anything except gaming. As is Satellite. The latency is overcome the second information starts to come down.
My wifi location was almost 3 miles from the central node in SoCal. In Oregon, it was 4.5 miles. So, I am speaking real world.
Satellite, I wouldn't want again, just because of the modem / isdn backhaul. BUT, it does work, and if you have no other ISP capable of servicing you, it's higher speed than two cans and a string.
Funny, though, how I'm modded flamebait for stating a fact. There is little to no monopoly on internet in the US of A. Just because you don't like the only company servicing your community in your town in the technology you want doesn't mean there isn't another ballgame or technology around. It might not be as good, but........
Truth hurts, and it hurts those who stretch it to fit their own agenda best.... But you can't stretch the truth to be another truth, and a monopoly we don't have, not on the internet. (car analogy: You can choose a bus or a compact, but you will still get to the same store. Or another. I guess we have a monopoly on gas in the USA, eh? Since we only have a handful of gas companies.) Any other idiotic claims of monopoly are referenced to the Rockefeller's and gasoline (specifically Standard Oil).
No ISP that I know of has a Monopoly. You always have the option of Dialup (9 of 10 times, if you don't have a phone line (wired), it's your fault or choice.... Either you didn't order or want one, or you chose to live where you do, and if there is no phone service there, that's your CHOICE). In cases such as the one cited above, AT&T offers me internet via my cell phone for 40.00 a month now. Unlimited. Fast, no, but it works, and gets me internet anywhere I have a cell signal. My wifes phone does the same, for the same 40.00, but is high speed (she has a Black Jack II, I have a HTC Wizard).
No cell service, go satellite. That's pretty much available everywhere.
DSL is an option, albeit not everywhere.
WiFi (long haul) is becoming an option in some areas as well.
There are options NOT listed above, but those cover the majority of instances. Between long range wifi, dialup and satellite, cable companies don't have a monopoly on providing internet service almost anywhere.
--Toll_Free (And yes, I do know what I speak of. I am in a Comcast area, use DSL by choice, and my vacation home is serviced by Microwave. I had to figure it out for myself (I am serviced by a Hotel WiFi vendor, but pay 50.00 a month for three quarter megabit service) in order to get it, get the service, etc., but it wasn't too hard. Go to the hotels in the area and find out what services them for high speed.
Incidentally, the only other options we have are Satellite (Wild Blue and DirecPC) and DSL. I'm too far from the C/O for DSL, so this was my only low-latency option.
Get's a little old, however, hearing people throwing around the term "monopoly" or "monopolistic" when they really don't know what the FUCK they are talking about.
I particularly like the little bit about how they will hold off on implementation while these important privacy concerns can be addressed.
Who wants to bet that addressing this means waiting under a rock until no one's looking and then going forward with substantially the same nonsense?
I would be more inclined to believe that to be read as "they will hold off until privacy concerns can be addressed" should be "they will hold off until laws have been enacted ensuring no immediate action(s) can be taken against Charter".
Except that they should only be able to sue for profits not gained, and actual expenses to date.
They should NOT get to sue for boxed price of software if it was never finished, never shipped, and never cost them anything additional after point X.
IOW, 19 dollars isn't profit gained on each box. There is no reason they should be able to sue and get damages based upon the entire cost of loss being profit, since you have to figure out of that 950 million (figures from Google themselves, supposedly) they would have had to have pumped money into creating the product, pressing it to disk and getting it into stores.
Probably half the original number, based upon my limited knowledge of software profit margins...
You don't NEED to provide evidence for something you "believe". Hence the term, belief?...:)
Then, you go on to state he is a dipstick (by not qualifying it as parent did, with "my money is on the likelihood" makes it a statement of fact. As such, and publishing it, you just committed libel, or are dangerously close. At the very least, defamation comes to mind.
Personally, I think your both full of crap... But then again, I know nothing of either of you, sans these posts.
Now add in commute time, time spent getting ready for work, getting "unwound" after work, etc., and your back up to at least a third.
And how many people in IT "END" the day when they get home, don't THINK about projects at work or actually work on home PCs or VPN'ed to work.
When you actually sit back and figure out your quality of life in IT, it sucks, and you don't make SHIT. Your time off work is spent (at least an hour, give or take, a day...) thinking about work and things work related. All that is time you DON'T get to count as "away from work", because your not getting to actually enjoy that time, YOUR STILL WORKING.
When I worked in IT, I spent over an hour a day in traffic, probably closer to 90 minutes. I spent another good hour or more getting ready for work in the morning, and was on call 24x7 for remote entry to the server farm, and at least once a week I was on call to be the idiot with the key, that had to show up and push keys if the remote links went down. All that, as well, is counted as time at work.
There are laws dealing with foreign gub-mints / investors and gub-mint contractors (which ms is).
To put it in perspective, when I was in high school, I did a 2 day job at our local electronics "junk shop". It was tagging devices to go into a "connex" box (shipping container) to go to China. This was in the late 80s or early 90s.
Anything HP, Tektronix or Fluke wasn't allowed to go. Some things had to have certain boards pulled out, and some things where just not allowed to go. This went all the way back to WWII technology (the store was a military surplus store).
The Chinese didn't care. They came for the steel and aluminum chassis the electronics came in.
Such a bummer. Even though some of it was "hollow state" tube stuff, it was still good equipment... We threw it haphazardly into two connex boxes, two semis came and took them, and that was the end of it.
BUT, it was censored.. ALL of it, due to export restrictions and trade laws. Same reason MS won't be owned by an entity from a gub-mint we find "hostile".
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa?minAsk=10000 Lets just make it easy... Theres all of them above 10k. Granted, some of them are for sale prices in the ghettos, but.... Gives you an idea of WHY people out here make what they do.
And one of the reasons I left the rat race of IT after a LONG time.
Well, originally I was a Cingular customer, but now have signed a new contract.
My wife and I both have data plans, she has a Blackjack II, I have a HTC Wizard.
I paid 60 a month extra for unlmtd data on Cingular, 50 a month now on AT & T. With this, I get 200 msg a month and otherwise, unlimited data, tethered or not.
My only gripe is now that I have experienced her phone, being 3G, tethered on the laptops, I realize just how slow the EDGE and related technology is.
But, I've never had a problem with Cingular or AT&T, and I've been tethering since the day I got the phone. Matter of fact, I realized the USB port on the last phone was dead because it wouldn't tether, not because it wouldn't charge.. charging worked fine.
Blackjack II, total crap. Windows mobile NEEDS a touch screen.
I live in the area, and let me tell you, people would rather KNOW they are going to have a paycheck, at least in theory because of seniority if nothing else, than NOT because they jumped ship to get a 20K a year raise.
Not when you paid nearly a million dollars for your 3 bedroom house.
There ARE people within a few miles of my house paying 25 thousand dollars a month in RENT.... My neighborhood is in the 2 to 3K a month range, and if I KNEW I could pay my bills with the economy going to the toilet, there is NO good reason for me to jump ship for a raise.
Three years ago, they ALL would have jumped ship. It's a different type of world now, since foreclosures, etc. are looming everywhere. Local trash mags have foreclosure sales listed, as do newspapers.
Apple should pony up some of those profits, but a smart board and CFO would realize, they might need a bit of cheese to get them through the thin period we can all see coming.
This type of case usually is prosecuted this way. Even if the Canadian's wouldn't have helped, we still would have prosecuted them in the US of A.
Reasoning? Simple. They have assets here:)
The judgment against them means not only can we seize their assets, but we can get rid of them with the guilty verdicts, if I remember correctly. Otherwise, the "seizing the assets" thing we all hear so much about means little more than we are depriving them of the assets, but not disposing of them. Having a criminal judgment means we off them to the highest bidder (usually, our government holds auctions to dispose of this type of stuff, unless it holds onto it for it's own reasons).
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I can tell my girlfriend, "working late tonight, I'll be home in an hour," or my D&D buddies, "On my way, be there 30 minutes," or a couple of my coworkers, "Meet for lunch at Rudy's BBQ", and it only takes ten seconds of my time and effectively none of theirs. I can even send the same message to half a dozen people at once, and that's much faster than calling half a dozen people and repeating the same conversation every time. If, for some reason, they need to answer the message, they can also do so without disturbing any people around them who don't want to listen to somebody chatting on their cell phone.
Does that make more sense? Yes, text messages are a horribly inefficient way of having a conversation, but they're not for conversing, they're for disseminating information.
I was going to say that if you play D n D, you don't have a girlfriend, so quite lying.
Then you talked about Rudy's. Rudy's in the Galleria? :)
--Toll_Free
despite some near-accidents
Enough said.
Also, just because someone hasn't had an accident in the past, it doesn't mean they won't have an accident in the future.
Having been a tow truck driver, managed one of the largest companies in So Cal, I can honestly point out something even MORE blatant here.
He might have had a few close calls, and not been in any accidents himself, BUT HOW MANY HAS THAT FUCK CAUSED?
Hoping there aren't any families without Mom / Dad / Child because of him and his assinine, selfish, self centered friends.
--Toll_Free
Warfighter sounds like someone trying to be WAAAYY to Politically Correct.
I believe the correct, PC term, anyway, is "troop".
--Toll_Free
Huh? I refuse to break common semantics because of American military jargon. A soldier is someone serving in AN army, not THE army, to the rest of the world. Whatever we term them per specific branch doesn't change the fact that they all are soldiers.
Its like the PC newspeak thing ("personhole covers", etc...), except for the military.
lol.Don't speak American Jargon when you are speaking the official language of America and talking of an American Military.
Yeah, that makes sense. Should we call the USAF the Wermacht?
--Toll_Free
You turned this into a rant against open source in only a few posts. Nice.
First, most of the coax and copper rolled out was put in place a LONG time ago, and the costs for doing so have been recovered many times over by the owner. Second, there was a rule that phone companies had to at least lease the lines at fair prices to other providers, not free as you tried to slip in to the argument, but fair competitive prices so that the line owner was compensated while still allowing for competition. That is gone now and what everyone knew would happen, did. There is one DSL provider in most areas if not all areas, and they ALL FUCKING SUCK.
Competition between classes is not a solution, nether is dial-up so don't even try to pretend its relevant anymore, and satellite has ~800ms latency which is not acceptable, not to mention its ALSO slower than DSL anyway. You can pretend latency doesn't matter but it shows you are being short sighted, try working on a remote server with SSH and tell me 1 second latency doesn't matter.
Well, I can tell we will have to disagree on the subject, since you won't let anything else be relevant on the matter, it can't be.
Satellite doesn't exist. DSL doesn't, either. Cable modems, according to you, are useless in the areas they are in, as is any other type of internet connection.
Amazingly, I USE both AT&T DSL as well as a microwave link. I'm happy with both. I'd be happier with Comcast for my internet (I've not had any issues with packet dropping, etc., but then again, I don't really use Bittorrent or any other technology designed for noobs. FTP encrypted works fine for me, and no speed problems, either), but my wife decided to get a "package deal", and it's OK here.
Dialup, I use it, on the road, for my business. My tethered pocketPC operates on EDGE speeds, so I know what dialup is, still use it, etc.
As to DSL providers sucking, exactly what is your bitch against them, as well? Again, I don't have a problem with mine, consistently get a meg and a half throughput downstream and 384K upstream (which, magically, is what we pay for). I've HAD shitty service. Speakeasy, based out of Seattle, after a year, bought me my home theater system due to the fact that my total uptime on the Redback was 30 days for 365 days of service on a business class line. They "partnered" with Covad, which blew balls. Of course, I have enough intelligence to understand that if I purchase my Inet line through the company that actually owns the lines, I'll probably get better service when I need it, but Speakeasy was "recommended" by a friend. I now go to AT&T to get DSL. Other companies can be had in the Ca Bay Area for DSL, but why?
Sorry, I don't share your views that a company should be forced to lease, rent or otherwise give away infrastructure they paid to implement. How about, after you finish paying off your house, I move in and tell you, fuck you, there is nothing you can do about it. You already recouped your monies by living here since the inception of your mortgage. Yeah, I thought so. The companies that put those cables in, did so at a risk. Some cable operators are OUT of business trying to roll out HS internet. Some companies didn't know what the internet WAS when they started laying cable. Regardless, telling a company they "have" to rent their lines to another company with absolutely NO expenditure during the buildout process is communistic and / or socialistic. If you honestly believe that, thank GOD your not someone making laws or enforcing them where I live. I'd like to be able to make business decisions based upon my own interest, thanks. Otherwise, I'll go to work for someone else.
I have no beef with open source, thanks. I have a beef with someone / an ideal / etc. that believes anyone who wants to profit from their ideals / ideas / inventions / etc. is wrong. A company / business has a right to exist. It should NOT have to share everything in and of itself, if it doesn't want to (and
In many areas the local government has granted specific companies exclusive rights to operate coax runs, that's a monopoly on cable internet service in that specific area, no other company can come in and offer cable internet service. The same is true of DSL, whoever owns the lines can jack up prices and neglect to upgrade their network, and they do.
The effect is that you don't have true competition, in any given area you have at most 2-3 competitors between classes of service, and its obviously not enough. You can claim there is no monopoly on "internet service" but that's not the point, there are still damaging effects on the market.
An example, Comcast is only rolling out DOCSIS3 in areas where FiOS is a threat, and Verizon is only rolling out FiOS in areas where other services are a threat. If they were forced to compete with other providers for the same service type they wouldn't be playing these fucking games.
1. So, to draw a conclusion from your own post, you can see that most companies are rolling out new technologies where they have to to stay competitive. Sounds like sound business premise to me, but what do I know.2. As far as companies being granted de facto use of the lines they themselves paid to have laid, and in some cases have to lease from other utility companies, that's called incentive. They don't > to come in, at the cost of millions, and either acquire the rights of way to install the equipment to provide infrastructure, nor do they have to even decide to do business in a community. It DOES cost, MILLIONS, to come in and put cable in, and in most cases of above ground, they end up paying a lease on the "tower space" on the poles from another utility. Explain to me how they should be forced to give another company access to their lines they took the risk of investing in. (Some cable companies have actually gone BROKE and are currently OUT OF BUSINESS because of attempting to provide broadband, so it isn't an unheard of risk).
I forgot, (and this will surely be popular) slashdot is usually of the opinion that nobody owns anything, and as long as you pay homage to the people your "borrowing" from, it's OK. Well, in the real world, where millions of dollars of other people's money (investors) are involved, the whole open source concept won't go too far, especially when it comes to utilities.
Still, if you have more than one or two options, and you just decide they all suck, that doesn't mean there is a monopoly. And as such, you shouldn't have the rights to come use lines I paid and took risk in installing "just because you want to 'give it a shot'".
Just my two cents worth, and of course, your mileage seems to vary.
--Toll_Free
No, actually, it isn't.
It's called reality. And making an analogy akin to flying cars is well.... Not reality.
Welcome to the real world. Where actually having a choice is NOT akin to NOT having a choice.
Call it flamebait, call it trolling, call it whatever you want. It's still a fact, if you have more than one or two completely different (companies, technologies, etc), nobody has a monopoly. Granted, it isn't coming over the same cable line or phone line (but, remember, you can get other DSL companies to give you your ISP, but it is still the "phone company" giving you the last mile), but wireless / satellite / cellular technology means you don't HAVE to be tied to the last mile now.
I've used satellite and I've used wireless. WiFi was / is just as good as wired internet for anything except gaming. As is Satellite. The latency is overcome the second information starts to come down.
My wifi location was almost 3 miles from the central node in SoCal. In Oregon, it was 4.5 miles. So, I am speaking real world.
Satellite, I wouldn't want again, just because of the modem / isdn backhaul. BUT, it does work, and if you have no other ISP capable of servicing you, it's higher speed than two cans and a string.
Funny, though, how I'm modded flamebait for stating a fact. There is little to no monopoly on internet in the US of A. Just because you don't like the only company servicing your community in your town in the technology you want doesn't mean there isn't another ballgame or technology around. It might not be as good, but........
Truth hurts, and it hurts those who stretch it to fit their own agenda best.... But you can't stretch the truth to be another truth, and a monopoly we don't have, not on the internet. (car analogy: You can choose a bus or a compact, but you will still get to the same store. Or another. I guess we have a monopoly on gas in the USA, eh? Since we only have a handful of gas companies.) Any other idiotic claims of monopoly are referenced to the Rockefeller's and gasoline (specifically Standard Oil).
--Toll_Free
No ISP that I know of has a Monopoly. You always have the option of Dialup (9 of 10 times, if you don't have a phone line (wired), it's your fault or choice.... Either you didn't order or want one, or you chose to live where you do, and if there is no phone service there, that's your CHOICE). In cases such as the one cited above, AT&T offers me internet via my cell phone for 40.00 a month now. Unlimited. Fast, no, but it works, and gets me internet anywhere I have a cell signal. My wifes phone does the same, for the same 40.00, but is high speed (she has a Black Jack II, I have a HTC Wizard).
No cell service, go satellite. That's pretty much available everywhere.
DSL is an option, albeit not everywhere.
WiFi (long haul) is becoming an option in some areas as well.
There are options NOT listed above, but those cover the majority of instances. Between long range wifi, dialup and satellite, cable companies don't have a monopoly on providing internet service almost anywhere.
--Toll_Free
(And yes, I do know what I speak of. I am in a Comcast area, use DSL by choice, and my vacation home is serviced by Microwave. I had to figure it out for myself (I am serviced by a Hotel WiFi vendor, but pay 50.00 a month for three quarter megabit service) in order to get it, get the service, etc., but it wasn't too hard. Go to the hotels in the area and find out what services them for high speed.
Incidentally, the only other options we have are Satellite (Wild Blue and DirecPC) and DSL. I'm too far from the C/O for DSL, so this was my only low-latency option.
Get's a little old, however, hearing people throwing around the term "monopoly" or "monopolistic" when they really don't know what the FUCK they are talking about.
--Toll_Free
I particularly like the little bit about how they will hold off on implementation while these important privacy concerns can be addressed.
Who wants to bet that addressing this means waiting under a rock until no one's looking and then going forward with substantially the same nonsense?
I would be more inclined to believe that to be read as "they will hold off until privacy concerns can be addressed" should be "they will hold off until laws have been enacted ensuring no immediate action(s) can be taken against Charter".--Toll_Free
A 'smuck' would be one who smucks.
DUH.
And I, am offended at your lack of knowing about them...... Me being a smuck.
--Toll_Free
Damn, you beat me to it. And I really needed to slap someone today. ;-)
I'm assuming with something other than a large trout?--Toll_Free
RTFA. Source doesn't need to be re-cited every time someone who doesn't read TFA acts confused.
--Toll_Free
Except that they should only be able to sue for profits not gained, and actual expenses to date.
They should NOT get to sue for boxed price of software if it was never finished, never shipped, and never cost them anything additional after point X.
IOW, 19 dollars isn't profit gained on each box. There is no reason they should be able to sue and get damages based upon the entire cost of loss being profit, since you have to figure out of that 950 million (figures from Google themselves, supposedly) they would have had to have pumped money into creating the product, pressing it to disk and getting it into stores.
Probably half the original number, based upon my limited knowledge of software profit margins...
--Toll_Free
He made reference to it being his guess.
You don't NEED to provide evidence for something you "believe". Hence the term, belief?... :)
Then, you go on to state he is a dipstick (by not qualifying it as parent did, with "my money is on the likelihood" makes it a statement of fact. As such, and publishing it, you just committed libel, or are dangerously close. At the very least, defamation comes to mind.
Personally, I think your both full of crap... But then again, I know nothing of either of you, sans these posts.
Now add in commute time, time spent getting ready for work, getting "unwound" after work, etc., and your back up to at least a third.
And how many people in IT "END" the day when they get home, don't THINK about projects at work or actually work on home PCs or VPN'ed to work.
When you actually sit back and figure out your quality of life in IT, it sucks, and you don't make SHIT. Your time off work is spent (at least an hour, give or take, a day...) thinking about work and things work related. All that is time you DON'T get to count as "away from work", because your not getting to actually enjoy that time, YOUR STILL WORKING.
When I worked in IT, I spent over an hour a day in traffic, probably closer to 90 minutes. I spent another good hour or more getting ready for work in the morning, and was on call 24x7 for remote entry to the server farm, and at least once a week I was on call to be the idiot with the key, that had to show up and push keys if the remote links went down. All that, as well, is counted as time at work.
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Yes. I now own my own business. Fledgling, but it's mine.
I worked in IT for over a decade and a half, once for a Fortune 5 company. Reported to the CIO.
I never worked somewhere that I didn't think my seniority wouldn't help me. If you do, your a fool.
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You need to learn math skills.
8 hours a day, is a third of a day.
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China can't buy MS.
There are laws dealing with foreign gub-mints / investors and gub-mint contractors (which ms is).
To put it in perspective, when I was in high school, I did a 2 day job at our local electronics "junk shop". It was tagging devices to go into a "connex" box (shipping container) to go to China. This was in the late 80s or early 90s.
Anything HP, Tektronix or Fluke wasn't allowed to go. Some things had to have certain boards pulled out, and some things where just not allowed to go. This went all the way back to WWII technology (the store was a military surplus store).
The Chinese didn't care. They came for the steel and aluminum chassis the electronics came in.
Such a bummer. Even though some of it was "hollow state" tube stuff, it was still good equipment... We threw it haphazardly into two connex boxes, two semis came and took them, and that was the end of it.
BUT, it was censored.. ALL of it, due to export restrictions and trade laws. Same reason MS won't be owned by an entity from a gub-mint we find "hostile".
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No, I meant twenty to twenty five thousand dollars a month.
This is the Bay Area. We have more millionaires than SoCal. Of course, their wealth is all subject to the ups and downs of their stock options, but...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/apa/723370120.html twenty three thousand a month.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/723180186.html 10,000 a month for a 3 bedroom
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search/apa?minAsk=10000 Lets just make it easy... Theres all of them above 10k. Granted, some of them are for sale prices in the ghettos, but.... Gives you an idea of WHY people out here make what they do.
And one of the reasons I left the rat race of IT after a LONG time.
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What happens when you're using it, and your neighbor fires up bittorrent.
Wifi is nowhere near the point of replacing broadband. Hell, cable modems have more bandwith to share between customers than wifi.
It's a good backup, though. I'll give it that.
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I have AT & T / Cingular as well.
Well, originally I was a Cingular customer, but now have signed a new contract.
My wife and I both have data plans, she has a Blackjack II, I have a HTC Wizard.
I paid 60 a month extra for unlmtd data on Cingular, 50 a month now on AT & T. With this, I get 200 msg a month and otherwise, unlimited data, tethered or not.
My only gripe is now that I have experienced her phone, being 3G, tethered on the laptops, I realize just how slow the EDGE and related technology is.
But, I've never had a problem with Cingular or AT&T, and I've been tethering since the day I got the phone. Matter of fact, I realized the USB port on the last phone was dead because it wouldn't tether, not because it wouldn't charge.. charging worked fine.
Blackjack II, total crap. Windows mobile NEEDS a touch screen.
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Nah, they won't.
I live in the area, and let me tell you, people would rather KNOW they are going to have a paycheck, at least in theory because of seniority if nothing else, than NOT because they jumped ship to get a 20K a year raise.
Not when you paid nearly a million dollars for your 3 bedroom house.
There ARE people within a few miles of my house paying 25 thousand dollars a month in RENT.... My neighborhood is in the 2 to 3K a month range, and if I KNEW I could pay my bills with the economy going to the toilet, there is NO good reason for me to jump ship for a raise.
Three years ago, they ALL would have jumped ship. It's a different type of world now, since foreclosures, etc. are looming everywhere. Local trash mags have foreclosure sales listed, as do newspapers.
Apple should pony up some of those profits, but a smart board and CFO would realize, they might need a bit of cheese to get them through the thin period we can all see coming.
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DAX publications is actually a yellow pages publisher in some parts of the US of A.
Might not be the same people, just sayin....
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This type of case usually is prosecuted this way. Even if the Canadian's wouldn't have helped, we still would have prosecuted them in the US of A.
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Reasoning? Simple. They have assets here
The judgment against them means not only can we seize their assets, but we can get rid of them with the guilty verdicts, if I remember correctly. Otherwise, the "seizing the assets" thing we all hear so much about means little more than we are depriving them of the assets, but not disposing of them. Having a criminal judgment means we off them to the highest bidder (usually, our government holds auctions to dispose of this type of stuff, unless it holds onto it for it's own reasons).
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After spending the better part of a couple days attempting to fool C & C Gold under Vista X64, I think I found my solution.
16 bit and 64 bit = bloods n crips.
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