My X wife thought marijuana was the SCOURGE of the world, because of her parents and DARE.
Then she realized she married someone that dallied in Marijuana use (medically and socially at times) and was FLOORED.
She almost divorced me over it, then realized, it didn't change the person she married, nor was it as bad as she thought.
Then she turned her angst towards DARE and her parents for lying ot her for so long.
BUT, the finality is this: She didn't have a problem with me using Marijuana medically, since in my state it is LEGAL. Her parents did, but they are idiots. She had a problem with ANYONE that did it that it wasn't medically excused because it IS ILLEGAL.
So yeah, some people are turned off enough just by the legality of it, and not the physical substance itself.
If the computer storing the game bits of code is based in the US, and he attacks it (hacks it), then he committed a crime under US law.
Don't tell me you actually think that people doing malicious hacking shouldn't be appropriately dealt with by the country whose laws they fucked over by hacking.... I mean, all you'd have to do is go to international waters and you could do all you wanted, to any country you wanted, to any server you wanted, and there would be no retribution.
Unless you where going for the point of if he copied it by USB method, he is guilty of criminal trespass as well as computer trespass.
Every major phone company and vendor would argue with you.
The only way it's your device is if you pay FULL retail for it, and get the unlock code, or if you purchase it fully unlocked (legally) at the time of purchase.
Otherwise, you own the plastic. The actual bits of code (I HATE that MS buzzword) is owned by Google, and the network you operate it on is owned by the telco.
Shame, as I would LOVE to agree with you, but the fact of the matter is, I doubt very much most of us actually paid RETAIL cost for our phones, therefore, we DON'T own them at ALL until the phone contract is up.
If you don't like that fact, then just pay full retail. Then, don't accept any updates, etc.
And I think that if we DO pay full retail, or after the 2 years (typical) contract period, we SHOULD get unlocked phones that we can choose the updates (to the OS, not to the phone itself operating system (the electronics)) to install or not to install to.
The actual radio OS isn't anything to be played with, and should be locked.
Google G1 / Android / HTC / TMobile have been telling us this is going to be an open platform.
Someone already "broke" the phone (which isn't a problem on an open platform)
Someone is already working on getting unsigned code working? I thought it was an open platform?
Manu / Hacker arms race? Why? Isn't this an open platform?
Sounds to me like its just about as open as the IPhone, and a few early adoption idiots where taken for a ride.
Very much happy with my Windows Mobile HTC Wizard. And, I don't have to go to anyones "repository" or "app store" to purchase things, nor do I have to worry about MS telling me what I can and cant run on my phone (I know, the albatross IS the last part of that statement).
IOW, Good job, Google. You've turned into everything you detested.
"It is wrong to use a military to bully other nations, but maintaining a military capable of deterring aggression is fine in my book."
ANd of course, the bullying is in the eye of whomever is talking.
I agree with you, though. We HAD a military capable of deterring agressions pre-Clintonia.
Then we where attacked. I attribute a lot of that to the fact, who cared? They had BEEN bombing us off and on for 10 years prior, and what DID Clinton do?
I'd MUCH rather have Bombs on Baghdad, rather than Bombs on Boston. I think most people in the USA would think the same way, even if they can't remember what happened last night, much less what happened 7 years ago.
We failed to have anywhere near the military might we did in the 80s or early 90s.
Notice, we only had a problem with things happening once before (Pearl Harbor). Then, they find out they can bomb our ships, and all we will do is bomb a pharmacological factory or a school. Nice job, wonder why they thought they might be able to get away with 9/11.
Pointing to 9/11 with nothing to back it up is pointless, to make a pun. 9/11 was a wakeup call, and one the American Populace seemingly forgot about. When we went to war with Afghanistan, I quitely made the remark at work that we better get this shit over with soon, because the world won't stand for another drawn out world war.
Look what happened. >7 years later, the world began turning against us, and the war continues.
Shoulda just nuked the fucks in the first place. After all, the locals enabled them, we gave them the weapons (and funny, whenever we come up against our own weapons, it becomes a stalemate), and now it's a literal shitstorm.
I, however, look at facts and not my own opinions. And I see terrorism at home is down (like we really had any in the past), and I'm not afraid to fly. I wasn't pre 9/11 either, but the activities around 9/11 pretty much made it clear it wasn't as safe as before. And yes, America has had terrorist threats since 9/22. Its just more convenient for the Obamatons to forget all that. Rewrite history as you like it.
They choose to keep their people living in third world squalor in order to keep those in power, in power.
I know, it's hard to make the distinction, but it's true. We are not up against Zimbabwe militarily... We are up against a superpower. And a superpower, by definition, is not a third world country.
BUT, the peoples of China most definately live in third world squalor. So did those of the USSR in the 80s. Not having buttwipe is pretty third world to me.
The article I read this morning stated that this was only going to be used for grid monitoring, not for, as this piece of drivel states, rolling BPL out into rural areas.
BPL is dead. They can't fix the problems inherent to broadband, IE, feedline radiation.
Amateur radio is MORE important than the internet, sorry to say...
Accordingly, your theory would say that nobody in IT today would have learned on MS platforms.
I did.
And most people in the industry, outside of *nix and OS/400 types, also did. Or migrated from other machines to PC based hardware when the other machines (Commodores, etc) disappeared.
So saying that open source will breed tech types is complete bullshit. Tech types will figure out how to work on their machines as well as modify them, no matter what the operating system is.
I managed a Radio Shack store, 01-896*, in Florida.
Radio Shack stopped carrying most things due to liability. They even got sued for a kid coming in, getting a reed switch, and using it to kill his parents (true story).
From that point on, we where TOLD not to answer any questions, since answering a question can lead to legal actions against both you and the store (it's that entire helping the bad guy thing).
There are still some good kits available on the internet. Check out Google, it's your friend.
Yeah, or it could have something to do with the massive amounts of synthetic drugs on the US soil, huh?
Coming from San Diego (born and raised), I can tell ya, I watched Chemicals go from basically anyone can purchase at K-Mart to now you have to have a license.
The amount of meth labs has gone down TREMENDOUSLY, in San Diego and neighboring communities. They have now moved in to Mexico, where they don't HAVE the laws against chemical precursors.
Don't like the chemical laws on the books today? Better not have voted Demo. They are the ones (Feinstein and Pelosi) that put the anti-chem laws on the books!
You didn't have people making methamphetamine, Ketamine, MDMA, etc. in their garage's back in the day, also.
Want to be able to purchase chemicals? GO do it, and get the appropriate paperwork to do so.
I'm much happier having a tenth of the meth labs in San Diego that we had in the 80s.
Yes, it sucks, trying to get some chemicals (I use them in electronics), but at the same time, much less people blowing themselves up, and their neighbors.
Not the only reasons, but we can thank people like Feinstein and Pelosi for this: They introduced the meth based laws back in the late 80s and through the 90s.
I never said anything infringing upon your rights.
I was more inferring that the people voting for Obama mostly where youngsters. It's a simple fact, my friend, Obama got more young people out to vote than anyone before him.
That DOESN'T mean that said people getting out to vote are actually informed of what is going on. It only means they have little to go upon because of a lack of experience in, well, LIFE.
It's kind of hard to have people talk about what life was like in, say, Carter's reign over the US, but then again, the same age group that pretty much delivered the Obama vote delivered Carter, as well.
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You are exactly right.
My X wife thought marijuana was the SCOURGE of the world, because of her parents and DARE.
Then she realized she married someone that dallied in Marijuana use (medically and socially at times) and was FLOORED.
She almost divorced me over it, then realized, it didn't change the person she married, nor was it as bad as she thought.
Then she turned her angst towards DARE and her parents for lying ot her for so long.
BUT, the finality is this: She didn't have a problem with me using Marijuana medically, since in my state it is LEGAL. Her parents did, but they are idiots. She had a problem with ANYONE that did it that it wasn't medically excused because it IS ILLEGAL.
So yeah, some people are turned off enough just by the legality of it, and not the physical substance itself.
--Toll_Free
Sure they did.
Except crack was called freebasing. Ask Ricky Prior about basing coke.
And meth was called Marching Powder, Anti-Depressants and asthma medicine.
So, parent is right.
--Toll_Free
You started out telling that as a story.
And closed it as you where part of the assinine plot.
So, which is it? Stupid or an asshole?
Moving your city limits signs is a felony, by the way, if your doing it to get people arrested.
--Toll_Free
That's for the judge to take into account, not the police.
And that's for the judge to take into account during sentencing, not during the guilt phase of a trial.
--Toll_Free
The 5th amendment is something the person being questioned has to invoke.
You honestly think that asking someone if they did it is entrapment?
--Toll_Free
What is the difference?
If the computer storing the game bits of code is based in the US, and he attacks it (hacks it), then he committed a crime under US law.
Don't tell me you actually think that people doing malicious hacking shouldn't be appropriately dealt with by the country whose laws they fucked over by hacking.... I mean, all you'd have to do is go to international waters and you could do all you wanted, to any country you wanted, to any server you wanted, and there would be no retribution.
Unless you where going for the point of if he copied it by USB method, he is guilty of criminal trespass as well as computer trespass.
--Toll_Free
Really?
Every major phone company and vendor would argue with you.
The only way it's your device is if you pay FULL retail for it, and get the unlock code, or if you purchase it fully unlocked (legally) at the time of purchase.
Otherwise, you own the plastic. The actual bits of code (I HATE that MS buzzword) is owned by Google, and the network you operate it on is owned by the telco.
Shame, as I would LOVE to agree with you, but the fact of the matter is, I doubt very much most of us actually paid RETAIL cost for our phones, therefore, we DON'T own them at ALL until the phone contract is up.
If you don't like that fact, then just pay full retail. Then, don't accept any updates, etc.
And I think that if we DO pay full retail, or after the 2 years (typical) contract period, we SHOULD get unlocked phones that we can choose the updates (to the OS, not to the phone itself operating system (the electronics)) to install or not to install to.
The actual radio OS isn't anything to be played with, and should be locked.
--Toll_Free
And that's the problem.
You pay for the "device".
Google OWNS the operating system.
Duetch Telecom OWNS the device.
You only pay for it to rent it while you use it, and then pay a monthly fee for network access on top of that.
And this is open, how?
--Toll_Free
So let me get this straight?
Google G1 / Android / HTC / TMobile have been telling us this is going to be an open platform.
Someone already "broke" the phone (which isn't a problem on an open platform)
Someone is already working on getting unsigned code working? I thought it was an open platform?
Manu / Hacker arms race? Why? Isn't this an open platform?
Sounds to me like its just about as open as the IPhone, and a few early adoption idiots where taken for a ride.
Very much happy with my Windows Mobile HTC Wizard. And, I don't have to go to anyones "repository" or "app store" to purchase things, nor do I have to worry about MS telling me what I can and cant run on my phone (I know, the albatross IS the last part of that statement).
IOW, Good job, Google. You've turned into everything you detested.
NEXT!
--Toll_Free
Eggs are there from birth.
Sperm are not.
--Toll_Free
That's what she said, hence him needing a smaller penis.
--Toll_Free
I don't recall the constitution or the bill of rights extending to all mammals, foolio.
I mean, don't international waters come into play for you, or does the constitution also extend to anywhere you want it to?
--Toll_Free
"It is wrong to use a military to bully other nations, but maintaining a military capable of deterring aggression is fine in my book."
ANd of course, the bullying is in the eye of whomever is talking.
I agree with you, though. We HAD a military capable of deterring agressions pre-Clintonia.
Then we where attacked. I attribute a lot of that to the fact, who cared? They had BEEN bombing us off and on for 10 years prior, and what DID Clinton do?
I'd MUCH rather have Bombs on Baghdad, rather than Bombs on Boston. I think most people in the USA would think the same way, even if they can't remember what happened last night, much less what happened 7 years ago.
--Toll_Free
9/11 was post Clintonia.
We failed to have anywhere near the military might we did in the 80s or early 90s.
Notice, we only had a problem with things happening once before (Pearl Harbor). Then, they find out they can bomb our ships, and all we will do is bomb a pharmacological factory or a school. Nice job, wonder why they thought they might be able to get away with 9/11.
Pointing to 9/11 with nothing to back it up is pointless, to make a pun. 9/11 was a wakeup call, and one the American Populace seemingly forgot about. When we went to war with Afghanistan, I quitely made the remark at work that we better get this shit over with soon, because the world won't stand for another drawn out world war.
Look what happened. >7 years later, the world began turning against us, and the war continues.
Shoulda just nuked the fucks in the first place. After all, the locals enabled them, we gave them the weapons (and funny, whenever we come up against our own weapons, it becomes a stalemate), and now it's a literal shitstorm.
I, however, look at facts and not my own opinions. And I see terrorism at home is down (like we really had any in the past), and I'm not afraid to fly. I wasn't pre 9/11 either, but the activities around 9/11 pretty much made it clear it wasn't as safe as before. And yes, America has had terrorist threats since 9/22. Its just more convenient for the Obamatons to forget all that. Rewrite history as you like it.
--Toll_Free
Mod this parent up.
I'm amazed.. American schools brought you into these lines of thinking?
I didn't think we had real schools left... You must be old, like me :)
--Toll_Free
China is most definately NOT third world.
They are first world (these distinctions SUCKS).
They choose to keep their people living in third world squalor in order to keep those in power, in power.
I know, it's hard to make the distinction, but it's true. We are not up against Zimbabwe militarily... We are up against a superpower. And a superpower, by definition, is not a third world country.
BUT, the peoples of China most definately live in third world squalor. So did those of the USSR in the 80s. Not having buttwipe is pretty third world to me.
--Toll_Free
The article I read this morning stated that this was only going to be used for grid monitoring, not for, as this piece of drivel states, rolling BPL out into rural areas.
BPL is dead. They can't fix the problems inherent to broadband, IE, feedline radiation.
Amateur radio is MORE important than the internet, sorry to say...
--Toll_Free
No, I don't.
It happened just outside of Ft. Myers, Florida, though. The store that the parts where purchased at was a company (Tandy) owned store.
It was a teen aged kid, and he killed his parents.
--Toll_Free
I call bullshit.
Accordingly, your theory would say that nobody in IT today would have learned on MS platforms.
I did.
And most people in the industry, outside of *nix and OS/400 types, also did. Or migrated from other machines to PC based hardware when the other machines (Commodores, etc) disappeared.
So saying that open source will breed tech types is complete bullshit. Tech types will figure out how to work on their machines as well as modify them, no matter what the operating system is.
--Toll_Free
The US is NOT a democracy.
It's a democratic republic.
BIG difference.
You voted?
--Toll_Free
Windows 3.1 and multimedia PC's are about two decades apart.
--Toll_Free
I managed a Radio Shack store, 01-896*, in Florida.
Radio Shack stopped carrying most things due to liability. They even got sued for a kid coming in, getting a reed switch, and using it to kill his parents (true story).
From that point on, we where TOLD not to answer any questions, since answering a question can lead to legal actions against both you and the store (it's that entire helping the bad guy thing).
There are still some good kits available on the internet. Check out Google, it's your friend.
--Toll_Free
Yeah, or it could have something to do with the massive amounts of synthetic drugs on the US soil, huh?
Coming from San Diego (born and raised), I can tell ya, I watched Chemicals go from basically anyone can purchase at K-Mart to now you have to have a license.
The amount of meth labs has gone down TREMENDOUSLY, in San Diego and neighboring communities. They have now moved in to Mexico, where they don't HAVE the laws against chemical precursors.
Don't like the chemical laws on the books today? Better not have voted Demo. They are the ones (Feinstein and Pelosi) that put the anti-chem laws on the books!
--Toll_Free
You didn't have people making methamphetamine, Ketamine, MDMA, etc. in their garage's back in the day, also.
Want to be able to purchase chemicals? GO do it, and get the appropriate paperwork to do so.
I'm much happier having a tenth of the meth labs in San Diego that we had in the 80s.
Yes, it sucks, trying to get some chemicals (I use them in electronics), but at the same time, much less people blowing themselves up, and their neighbors.
Not the only reasons, but we can thank people like Feinstein and Pelosi for this: They introduced the meth based laws back in the late 80s and through the 90s.
Democrats, welcome to your future.
--Toll_Free
I never said anything infringing upon your rights.
I was more inferring that the people voting for Obama mostly where youngsters. It's a simple fact, my friend, Obama got more young people out to vote than anyone before him.
That DOESN'T mean that said people getting out to vote are actually informed of what is going on. It only means they have little to go upon because of a lack of experience in, well, LIFE.
It's kind of hard to have people talk about what life was like in, say, Carter's reign over the US, but then again, the same age group that pretty much delivered the Obama vote delivered Carter, as well.
And the similiarities are erie. VERY erie.
--Toll_Free