You are right, for now the problem-solving mindset is required as the cost of entry, for now. But regardless of how cool it is to be able to run a bleeding edge OS, that your next door neighbor has never heard off, I have a hard time believing that the goal of the countless people who are working their tails off day and night hacking code is to be a contributor on a OS that will be a continual 'also-ran'.
The linux community has to make up their minds and determine weather or not they want to be a real player, or if they want to take their ball and go home. If they want to be a real player that means doing the things that people do not want to do, not just doing what is the cool thing for the moment.
That means:
1) Making the linux installation so easy that a blind, deaf and possible emotionally disturbed farm animal has a good chance of completing the installation with requiring outside assistance.
2) Having a REAL source for help, help that doesn't require 8 years of experience at dealing with wacky off the wall PC issue in order to understand [i.e. lots of pictures and maybe a voice of by Barney the dinosaur]
3) And tech support that can listen to an absurd question and give an answer with out reminding the user how inferior that are to the average primate [although this is getting better, it has a ways to go].
If this is too much to ask then everyone can just go back to living in their own pretend world where we bitch and moan about Windows and how crappy of an OS it is, yet not providing a better alternative. Until linux can beat them at their game people should stop their bitching and spend that energy on cranking some code.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
Or, better yet does the right arm care what the left one is doing? I honestly do not think that the management of EToys has any idea of what being a good netizen means. And that is why it is very important that their actions are discussed in open forms (i.e./.) and that their actions against EToy stay visible in the news.
The complaints from Etoy may be easy enough to ignore, but the roar of the crowd of the community is much more difficult to turn a deaf ear to.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
Everyone (here) loves linux, it powerful, you can do whatever it is that you want, but please don't make me have to explain it to my mother-in-law.
But to take that next big step, someone will need to be able to explain it to good old Mom, and a lot of other people who are even more scared of the machine than she is. God bless the poor soles who are on the front line trying to spread the word of linux, because it is a thankless job that needs to be done.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
I wish you the best of luck in your new Michigan regime, whoever they may be.
Being a resident of the greater Washington DC area, I am hoping that the US government will be able to take control of the Y2K confusion and insert a stable government in DC by the cover of fireworks and nightfall.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
I do not think that anyone is pretending that copying [both legal and non] is occurring of almost everything, to include books, music, movies, and for that matter ideas. And could someone use the utilities that we have been discussing to aid in those pursuits? Yes.
But that is not the point of the argument; copies will be made weather by this manner or by some other method. The point is [or should be] that us fortunate few who have been blessed with access to this wonderful world of technology, make a good 'world' for those who will follow. I do not want 'my internet' to be ruled by companies that will determine for use what is fit content and what is not. I do not want to bow down to someone who will dictate what LEGAL material I may have on my web page and what I may not. And heaven forbid that I allow someone to tell me what I may and what I may not LINK to! I am proud to be in a community that feels that we have a level of responsibility that comes along with our good fortune. And that is why I have opted to join those who will make this information available. And with a bit of luck and determination we will prevail in the long run.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
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You are right, for now the problem-solving mindset is required as the cost of entry, for now. But regardless of how cool it is to be able to run a bleeding edge OS, that your next door neighbor has never heard off, I have a hard time believing that the goal of the countless people who are working their tails off day and night hacking code is to be a contributor on a OS that will be a continual 'also-ran'.
The linux community has to make up their minds and determine weather or not they want to be a real player, or if they want to take their ball and go home. If they want to be a real player that means doing the things that people do not want to do, not just doing what is the cool thing for the moment.
That means:
1) Making the linux installation so easy that a blind, deaf and possible emotionally disturbed farm animal has a good chance of completing the installation with requiring outside assistance.
2) Having a REAL source for help, help that doesn't require 8 years of experience at dealing with wacky off the wall PC issue in order to understand [i.e. lots of pictures and maybe a voice of by Barney the dinosaur]
3) And tech support that can listen to an absurd question and give an answer with out reminding the user how inferior that are to the average primate [although this is getting better, it has a ways to go].
If this is too much to ask then everyone can just go back to living in their own pretend world where we bitch and moan about Windows and how crappy of an OS it is, yet not providing a better alternative. Until linux can beat them at their game people should stop their bitching and spend that energy on cranking some code.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
Or, better yet does the right arm care what the left one is doing? I honestly do not think that the management of EToys has any idea of what being a good netizen means. And that is why it is very important that their actions are discussed in open forms (i.e. /.) and that their actions against EToy stay visible in the news.
The complaints from Etoy may be easy enough to ignore, but the roar of the crowd of the community is much more difficult to turn a deaf ear to.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
Everyone (here) loves linux, it powerful, you can do whatever it is that you want, but please don't make me have to explain it to my mother-in-law.
But to take that next big step, someone will need to be able to explain it to good old Mom, and a lot of other people who are even more scared of the machine than she is. God bless the poor soles who are on the front line trying to spread the word of linux, because it is a thankless job that needs to be done.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
I wish you the best of luck in your new Michigan regime, whoever they may be.
Being a resident of the greater Washington DC area, I am hoping that the US government will be able to take control of the Y2K confusion and insert a stable government in DC by the cover of fireworks and nightfall.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
I do not think that anyone is pretending that copying [both legal and non] is occurring of almost everything, to include books, music, movies, and for that matter ideas. And could someone use the utilities that we have been discussing to aid in those pursuits? Yes.
But that is not the point of the argument; copies will be made weather by this manner or by some other method. The point is [or should be] that us fortunate few who have been blessed with access to this wonderful world of technology, make a good 'world' for those who will follow. I do not want 'my internet' to be ruled by companies that will determine for use what is fit content and what is not. I do not want to bow down to someone who will dictate what LEGAL material I may have on my web page and what I may not. And heaven forbid that I allow someone to tell me what I may and what I may not LINK to! I am proud to be in a community that feels that we have a level of responsibility that comes along with our good fortune. And that is why I have opted to join those who will make this information available. And with a bit of luck and determination we will prevail in the long run.
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut
Look what I found... another link
all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut