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The Geek Compound Prepares for Y2k

So with the end of the world less than 48 hours a way, it seemed necessary that CowboyNeal, Hemos, the Pope, and myself all pile into CowboyNeal's gigantic truck thing and trek over to the local mega grocery store to prepare for the upcoming apocolypse. Click the link below to read exciting excerpts from our shopping list... if enough of you do so, then we can officially declare our purchases as tax deductable! Now we'll just cross our fingers and hope that whatever regime seizes control of michigan on Jan. 2 honors deductions from the previous government. CmdrTaco & The Pope's shopping cart

First off I needed self defense. Since it was snowing, I decided that a large snow shovel would nicely fill the 2 roles: Convenient weapon to be used against intruders aiming to steal my waffles, and after the dust settles, I can also use it to prevent the pizza man from slipping on the ice on my porch and suing me (Or worse, dropping my pizza into the snow!)

Now that I can defend myself, its time to feed myself. I made a fatal assumption: Almost all of my food purchases were microwavable. I purchased a gigantic "Feeds 8" box of lasagna. Since I don't each much, I figure it can last me a month or more. Especially because I'll probably have to it it frozen. Nothing fills you up like an ounce or two of frozen lasagna. My other major food purchase was a box of 60 microwavable waffles, a jello dessert treat, and ingrediants to make tacos on 2 seperate occasions.

Since I'm not relying on my microwave to work, I purchased a bottle of Irish Whiskey and a bottle of Vodka. The Pope opted the yuppie route and selected a bottle of Bombay Saphire gin, vermouth, and olives. The world may be ending, but he'll be having a 9 martini end of days.

For entertainment, I selected 'Hercules', the classic disney film of only a few years ago featuring Susan Egan on vocals, and the amazing Andreas Deja animating a hero instead of the mega villian for once. Again, I realize this is short sighted since my DVD player will require electricity, so as a backup plan, I purchased the most recent issue of the National Enquirer so that after the fall of civilization I could thrill to the stunning tales of George W Bush's Jr's torrid affair, as well as Shania Twain returning to her hubby following... a torrid affair.

Hemos' Shopping Cart I suspect that Meijer's, a friendly local mega-grocery-hardware-pharmacist-greenhouse-furniture-photo-store was not quite anticipating the sheer flood of people coming in for the "The Apocalypse". However, through sheer perseverance, I was able to secure the most hallowed of all shopping treasures:

6 Gallons Distilled Water. And Whiskey.

That's right - not only will I be able to keep myself drinking clean water, and brushing my teeth regularly (With my new tube of toothpaste, Item #4125056208) as well as flossing (Item #381370099183) but I'll have also have the gift of alcohol. With my natural and well known affinity to Bushmills, I'm already planning how I'll turn the Geek Compound into the Midwest's most powerful distillery. I've drawn up plans on how to convert my former burned out home into a giant high class distillery. From there, we'll extend our control of surrounding area, and parley it into control of the Greater Great Lakes area.

Yes, the power of whiskey.

While those plans are working out though, unlike Rob, I've actually purchased canned goods that I can eat. Yes, stretching from tuna fish to chicken in a can, I'll be sitting and riding on the high hog post World Wide collapse. Assuming my can opener is Y2k compliant.

I also purchased quite a number of vitamins. To understand this point, you should understand that I take about five pills per day - ginseng, selenium, a multivitamin, and a B complex. Wanting to maintain my health and girlish figure for the next thousand years, I've procured the above vitamins - in bulk. Yes, if it weren't for that damn half-life problem I'd be popping vitamins and experiencing natural organic growth for the next thousand years.

sigh But the best purchase of all is the one I couldn't put on there. I've got myself a 50 gallon drum of nanites, which I'll be using to recreate the world as I see fit. I'm thinking Teletubbies.

CowboyNeal's Shopping Cart My list is short. I've been in survival situations before (I'm referring to family get-togethers here) so I know how to make the most of a situation and be resourceful.

First up, plenty of beer. I figured I was gonna need it to celebrate the new year anyway, and if something should go awry, it'll help dull the pain in my final hours, not to mention that a broken beer bottle makes an excellent weapon for hand-to-hand combat. My choice in brew (for the inquisitive) was Bass Pale Ale.

A snow shovel. Since I moved, I've been without s snow shovel, which has been a bit of a pain since Michigan is an area that seems to attract quite a bit of snow. If the apocalypse should happen to miss me, I still think there will be snow to shovel in the next millenium. Also, it makes a wonderful weapon for self-defense, but with a much longer range than the beer bottles. (CT:The epic battles between CowboyNeal and CmdrTaco will do for shovel combat what The Highlander did for swords. Check your listings for pay per view showtimes).

Candles. And not just any candles, I got religous candles. Each one has a prayer unique to that candle. I"m not even Catholic, but I figure I may need light when the power goes out, and why not have God's help on my side? If I am gonna survive, why not do it piously? I'm already thanking God that they were priced to move.

Batteries. My usefulness for a generator could come and go, but I figure batteries will stay in style well into the next millenium. I got enough to power my flashlights and some for my discman as well. Regardless of what happens, I'm sure they'll see some use.

I didn't concern myself with food or water so much, because I figured I could just melt some of the endless supply of snow outside for water, my parent's house is just a short drive away where my father will no doubt be out killing for food first chance he gets.

445 comments

  1. On a serious note. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's what you really need: - a battery-powered radio; - potassium iodine (KI or KIO3, you can get some for 5 bucks--in Canada it's prescription only but the natural food stores freely sells some) in case of a power plant instability event, there's plenty in stores now, but people might be fighting over this stuff next week (especially gun-maniac americans); - guns will be useless (help people instead of being selfish) unless it's for terminating yourself; - food for 1-2 weeks, at most (after two weeks alone in a dark cold hole, radiation or not, you'll want to come out anyway before you go mad); - something to read to get the horror off your mind. Remember if there's an event in your vicinity, you have a half-hour to get to your hole. The first moments after the event are the most important. Good luck! (especially if you're on the east coast)

  2. What are you all worried about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This Y2K mania is a big sham, Y2K won't happen for another 48 years!

  3. No, that -was- weak. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..and dumb, too.. But hey, be my guest.. People taste good...like...Soilent Plaid!

  4. ROFL -Re:Advice from my Boss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah... seniority... mmmm...

    1. Re:ROFL -Re:Advice from my Boss by Duxup · · Score: 1

      The only prob is . . . i'm new! If we have to eat more than 2 people, I'm in bad shape.

    2. Re:ROFL -Re:Advice from my Boss by mgroeninger · · Score: 1

      >For those of you bringing weapons to work for the event, those with the better weapons get the better parking spots.

      I don't know, based on the above statement, senority may be something you could create.


  5. Re:Y2K Survival by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    The AK-47 won't do you much good, since you're one person. When you run into a group of well-drilled expert-marksman survivalists, you'll be toast. When you run into an SUV accessorized with half-inch steel plate, you'll be toast. And roadkill. When you try taking something from a house with murder holes over the front porch, you'll be chipped meat on toast. Literally.

  6. Not apocalyse, but.... by Bob-K · · Score: 2

    I don't think the power is going to go out, I don't think there will be mass hysteria, we won't be returned to the Stone Age. But if all the computers break, we'll be plunged back into the bleakness of the 1970's.

    Trouble is, there's no place to buy leisure suits anymore.

  7. I live prepared for Y2k by TaxSlave · · Score: 1

    I run a used bookstore and have approximately 30,000 Y2k compatible information storage and retrieval devices in stock.

    If the apocolypse comes, I expect books to be the next TV, and I'll be a millionaire.

    Of course, I'm obliged to point out, as a purveyor of information, that neither the century, nor the millenium, are due to end until the END of 2000. 11 eggs do not make a dozen, and there was no year zero. Just because everybody on TV is an idiot, doesn't mean you have to be.

  8. Yeah, it's not 2048 yet... but when it does... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hold on to your bippie!

  9. about microwaveable stuff - by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    true hurricane Floyd story:
    Hey, I was ready this summer with a 3kw generator and two 120A/h marine deep discharge batteries powering a converted 650W computer UPS that'll keep lights, stereo and vid games (only essentials) going during power outage - when Floyd knocked us out for about 6 hours I had to fire up the generator to make microwave popcorn - oh the horror of it all!

    Boojum
    backing up stuff like there's no tomorrow

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  10. Re:offtopic reminiscience of apple ][ -- fixed by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

    You can find a number of Apple II emulators for Linux at ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II. However, the IBM PC style 360K floppy drives physically cannot read Apple formatted 5.25" disks, as PC's use MFM encoding and Apple used GCR. Not to worry though, because most of the popular stuff has been put into disk file images that are also available for download. Unfortunately though, I didn't see Oregon Trail on that site, but maybe someone will upload it.

    Damn, I should have previewed. :-(

  11. Re:Planning ahead by zuvembi · · Score: 2

    ROTFLMAO

    I thought it might be something like that. I realized about 30 seconds after I posted that the other alternative was that your neighbors were vegatables, or close enough to it for government work.

    Mmmm, seitan - ray's wheat meat kicks ass (yes I know it's not tofu - but it's all in the same section of the food mart).

  12. Re:As someone said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean "OS/2 jihad-world" forums, don't you?

  13. Re:my y2k plans... by Serial+Spiller · · Score: 1

    When you use a computer I bet you get a lot of ID 10 T errrors, don't you. A smarter man (such as myself ) would have purchased BB guns instead of the plastic dart guns you bought. And everyone knows if your stocking up on liquor you need to get the huge jug of Sothern Comfort. And don't forget to set the date on your laptop back to 1998, at least this way when everything shits the bed you get to look at your saved porn.

    Got Porn?

  14. score one for Apple by Pope · · Score: 2

    Well, barring any Physical problems (ie HD failure, but that can be easily fixed) or oxidation, my little 3 year old Mac's system calendar is good til the year 27,000 AD or something like that. It also goes back to 15,000 BC, in case of time warps.

    I plan on keeping the thing til it dies or I do, which ever comes first :)
    I hope LinuxPPC is as forgiving!

    Pope

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    It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
    1. Re:score one for Apple by j_edge · · Score: 1

      oh, that bites
      $ cal 27000
      cal: illegal year value: use 1-9999

  15. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Haven · · Score: 2

    Pentium II processors also make good drink coasters or toilet paper substitute, never both at the same time though.

  16. Too kewl. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..but you'll die in your geekness... Wait, will you get beamed aboard before your dreamworld is crushed?

  17. tax-deductable? by crayz · · Score: 1

    C'mon, you already have something like $1.5 million, w/ a $90,000/year salary, do you really need to declare your Pizza Rolls as tax-deductable?

    j/k

  18. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    isn't 101010 the 10th of the 10th month of 2010?
    (October 10 2010)

  19. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by SEWilco · · Score: 2
    how will you land if there are no landing lights?
    Actually, if the lights go out in Chicago one should point the nose of the plane to the south. Like Florida.
  20. with all the money Andover gave you guys... by dibos · · Score: 1

    you'd think you'd have no problem buying a power generator and lots of backup gasoline :-)

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  21. Re:The Golden Bee by JohnCatz · · Score: 1

    multi-stagers make GREAT missiles.

    believe me, I know from experience.

    BTW, anyone know if it's a federal crime to shoot down a mail plane over the Adirondacks?

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    "A /. reader's time is a wonderful thing to waste." --JohnCatz '99
  22. Re:As someone said... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    Actually, a good bonfire around any bunker will suck up enough oxygen to kill the inhabitants. This is a lot more probable than a Molotov cocktail.

  23. Re:offtopic reminiscience of apple ][ by SoftwareJanitor · · Score: 2

    I believe you can find a shrinkit archive of Oregon Trail here

    Check the file list, and search for oregontr.shk and you should be able to find it.

  24. Re:As someone said... by jsm · · Score: 1
    Uh, that's what I'm doing. Did anyone actually stock up on food? Hello?

    Some gun-toter once said "If one person has food and another has a gun, the one with the gun is gonna eat." He forgot that if both people have food, they'll both eat, but if they both have guns, than neither one will eat.

  25. When the bubble bursts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the first day of Christmas, my gun dealer sold to me, a Franchi SPAS 12 with a folding stock, can't you see?

    On the second day of Christmas, my gun dealer sold to me, some double-00 and rifle slugs that can cut down trees

    On the third day of Christmas, the liquor store gave to me, 1 crate of vodka, 2 crates of Crown Royal, and all for free (see items #1 and #2)

    In all seriousness, let the power go out. My 90 lbs of Rottweiler works quite fine in the ensuing black-outs....

    Besides, I've got enough K-D to last until Christ walks the Earth.

    1. Re:When the bubble bursts by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 1

      The Spas-12 has a choke on the barrel. dont't try shooting rifles slugs from it, or you'll kill yourself
      ^. .^

  26. Re:Crisis - great for the economy by staplin · · Score: 1
    no matter what happens, grocers and retails are cleaning up

    Right up to the point when there's a riot (whether or not anything really happens at Y2K), and all those grocers and retailers are looted, losing all the profits they made preY2K to clean up the mess.

  27. Y2K shopping lists by HP+LoveJet · · Score: 1

    Funny--I was just thinking, as I packed this morning for my weekend in darkest Vermont, that this will probably be the only time I ever bring a battery-powered emergency radio and a pair of cufflinks on the same trip.

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    1. Re:Y2K shopping lists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found your Y2K shopping list quiet intresting. Personally I don't think that Y2K is such a big deal. The only world that I think might crash is the Internet world. I find it so hard to believe that noone thought of this earlier. My shopping list is compossed of left over chocolate candy from Xmas. My wife also has plenty work for me to do at the house. If the world system crashes as we know it at least my wife will have the nicest house. Your Truly, The BigGuns

    2. Re:Y2K shopping lists by kootch · · Score: 1

      now I've got to ask this right away...

      CUFFLINKS?!?!?

      who are you, Magyver?

      are you going to build a bomb with a battery-powered radio and cufflinks?

      and this question goes to the /. crew... why didn't any of you buy WD-40, Q-Tips, Duck Tape, Paper Clips, Rock Salt, etc.?

      Those are the most important items you need in ANY survival setting... as demonstrated by our role model, Magyver. (it's a shame he's on that crummy Stargate sitcom now).

      peace.

    3. Re:Y2K shopping lists by handorf · · Score: 1

      What makes you think they don't already own sufficient (WD40|DuctTape|Q-Tips|Rock Salt)? Be prepared. :-)

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    4. Re:Y2K shopping lists by RedX · · Score: 1

      You can never have enough WD-40 and Duct tape...

    5. Re:Y2K shopping lists by HP+LoveJet · · Score: 1

      Well, I was kind of hoping I could melt them down if need be, to recover the precious metals. Also, my girlfriend got them for me for Christ-Related Consumer Festival and wants me to wear them to New Year's dinner. But I'll keep the bomb thing in mind.

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      spawn_of_yog_sothoth
    6. Re:Y2K shopping lists by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Guys, you forgot kitty-litter!

  28. Re:nobody remembered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just make sure the toilet paper is Y2K compliant. Otherwise it will turn into Sears catalogs on the stroke of midnight.:)

  29. Re:Planning ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    And by the way, if you see your Peapod delivery van this weekend, would you be sure and tell it...


    SEITAN!! SEITAN!! SEITAN!!

  30. Re:offtopic reminiscience of apple ][ -- fixed by T-Ranger · · Score: 1
    It looks like its in the incomming directory..

    Prehaps the /. effect will influence the maintainer to move it over to a +r dir...

  31. sure it will. by mcc · · Score: 2
    Things will happen for the simple reason that the person who made this post and the person who made this post and people like them are going to make them happen.

    The computers will be fine of course, but think about it from these people's perspective: you're sitting around, it's new years day, you have all this stockpiled ammunition.. you aren't going to bother to find out whether civilisation really collapsed or if the ATMs aren't working or if your pager doesn't work. That's too much trouble. You'll probably just assume civilisation has collapsed and start looting anyway, especialy if you've been drinking all that stockpiled vodka and whiskey.

    Get enough people doing that, and civilisation will collapse with or without the computers. Happy new year!

  32. Don't forget... by Giant+Robot · · Score: 1

    a copy of your bank statements etc, now that you are paper millionaires...

  33. Thanks by tilly · · Score: 1

    I thought it was him, but I wasn't sure.

    So I made sure I didn't make it sound like it was original.

    BTW another unoriginal quote I like...

    "If you can't laugh at yourself, eventually other people will."

    Showed up in a discussion on why a spoof of slashdot keeps on getting rejected when people submit it...

    Cheers,
    Ben

    --
    My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
  34. You can't hit what you can't find... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ..I'd just like to see some of you freaks come out to my neck of the woods. The hills are the last place someone's going to be f'ing around unless they live there. We're -used- to spotty power, firearms & borderline psychotics.

    Where else does the food come to you in 500-lb packages? Some preparation required.

  35. Y2K Survival by pieguy · · Score: 4

    All I need for Y2K is an AK47 and plenty of ammo. Anything else I need....I'll just take.
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    1. Re:Y2K Survival by drix · · Score: 2

      Yeah why not.. I mean they've always been magnates for positive PR in the past ;)

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      I think there is a world market for maybe five personal web logs.
    2. Re:Y2K Survival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      alice suspenders and belt, frags and .45 LAW on your back, clipped to the suspenders and the AK in your hand, my personal supply will be slightly different

      1. MP5 and a glock 23 in .40
      2. Belgian made BAR mk II .300 WIN MAG
      3. pre '64 Winchester model 12 12ga, hold the slide and you get full auto @)
      4. Bo and Luke Duke's favorite explosive delivery device, Browning Bear compund bow + aluminum arrows + half stick of dynamite.
      5. ...and to finish it off, a gallon of Uncle Jesse's white lightinin' 1947 vintage
    3. Re:Y2K Survival by SilverSeed · · Score: 3

      And the AK47 will come in handy once I go crazy from seeing the word "Y2K" so often...

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      "The amount of intelligence in the universe is a constant. Unfortunately, the stupid population keeps on rising"

    4. Re:Y2K Survival by in8 · · Score: 1
      All I need for Y2K is an AK47 and plenty of ammo. Anything else I need....I'll just take.

      IF YOU"RE in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia Just make certain its an 'friendly' (i.e. no bayonet lugs, no pistol grip, no goofy thumbhole stock) looking rifle - and 30 inches long or longer otherwise (the feds say a rifle is 26+ inches long)... it'll be illegal Jan 1 1900.

      checkout http://www.guncompliantstocks.com/ for more info. hmmm - I guess the newer uglier looking but still functional semi-auto AK47 will be called the Y2K47 %^)

    5. Re:Y2K Survival by no-s · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm thinking a wrecking bar and a powerful bolt-cutter (e.g. mini jaws of life) would be the handiest things to have in the event of serious exigency. Just in case.

    6. Re:Y2K Survival by agshekeloh · · Score: 2

      I live about half an hour from CmdrTaco. If everything goes to hell Saturday, I'll just go see him. Saves me the trouble of shopping beforehand.

    7. Re:Y2K Survival by ph43drus · · Score: 1
      Exactly. That's why I've equipped myself with frag grenades (great for crowd control), a LAW missle launcher (for those pesky armored vehicles), an AK-47, and a .45 (just in case, y'know). Oh yeah, never go in the front door. Shoot out a window, throw in some tear gas, climb on in and loot.

      Now I just gotta figure out how to walk with all this...

      Jeff

    8. Re:Y2K Survival by charlesc · · Score: 2

      If the gun manufacturers were smart, they'd have renamed this thing the "Y2K47" a long time ago :).

      Chuck.

      --
      "So many ways to skin a cat, and still everyone uses a great big knife."
    9. Re:Y2K Survival by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's your Klingon pride...

      If anybody intends to loot me, I intend to kill them with my bare hands.

  36. Screw you all.. I'm going home by Aquaman616 · · Score: 2

    I'm just boycotting the whole damn thing... No bottled water, no ammo (the slingshot I own and lego man heads will have to do), and whatever I have in my house... which, as usual, consists mainly of hard cider, fine german liquor, and cup o' noodles. If need be I'll just build something out of my mindstorms and program it to go out foraging for me...

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  37. I'll be ready... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went do to the local sporting goods store yesterday and got a BFG-10K and a Rail Gun for longer range targets.

  38. Re:The Golden Bee by PugMajere · · Score: 1

    hey, the cluser of "D" engines is really cool.
    If it doesn't melt your engine mount.

  39. [OT] /. messed up my sig! by Giant+Robot · · Score: 1

    don't even try compiling...

    1. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jeez, I saw the line and worked that out duh, plus you need a
      #include for the printf usually...and I've only just come across C
      come on....

    2. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by WinTired · · Score: 1
      Do they all really have to be globals?

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    3. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by tjackson · · Score: 1

      the error was on the printf("%4d") part. it put a space after the % sign. Also, it was missing a ");}" at the end. Here it is, all better. int a=10000,b,c=2800,d,e,f[2801],g; main(){for(;b-c;)f[b++]=a/5;for(;d=0,g=c*2;c-=14,p rintf("%4d",e+d/a),e=d%a)for(b=c;d+=f[b] *a,f[b]=d%--g,d/=g--,--b;d*=b);}/*comment so slashdot can't be the problem...*/

    4. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by Giant+Robot · · Score: 1

      of course i already know this, but even after i type this in, and save it under slashdot, it does not change (save does not work well for some reason). This is pretty new, it had worked before, but now it just messes up.

    5. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes...I tried to compile it...I even added the ) you left off the end...it still doesn't work. "Parse error at end of input"

    6. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pi? big deal...

    7. Re:[OT] /. messed up my sig! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      add );} at the end...

  40. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by billybob+jr · · Score: 1

    They could still ring things up manually tho, right?

  41. my plans by pulski · · Score: 1

    My plans for Y2K include getting enough gas for my backup generator and keeping myself near my closet full of baseball bats of various sizes and compositions. (Wood/Aluminum)

    Well, maybe I'll buy some Twinkies and a case of Jolt.

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    1. Re:my plans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not baseball bats-- GUNS!!!!

  42. My own plans by Pope · · Score: 2

    Well, I gotta go food shopping tonight anyway, then get up REAL early tomorrow to do some last minute laundry. I ain't gonna face no Apocalypse with dirty underwear!
    Things I still need are: candles, booze+mixer, water, more fresh fruit, and a flashlight. I should probably have all of these around the bunker anyway.
    I have enough toys to last for a lifetime: a brand new Scrabble game from X-Mas (play me for food!),
    a giant box of Lego, rescued from my parents' basement (I figure I can make a new barter system using it),
    a set of electronic drums and a bass guitar,
    enough comics and magazines and novels to keep my whole block occupied, or burn as fuel,

    I live in a basement with tile floors, so if the heat goes off, I'll not be every happy. However I got a brand new pair of Docs last week, so I can at least stomp whoever tries to take my stuff! :)

    PS I'm not the Pope in the article, it's just a family resemblance.


    Pope

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  43. As someone said... by tilly · · Score: 4

    "As you know, some people are stocking up on food and water to prepare for the upcoming collapse of civilization. I'm not. I'm stocking up on guns and ammunition so I can *take* the food and water from all those people who didn't figure out what collapse of civilization means!"

    Cheers,
    Ben

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    1. Re:As someone said... by BrashenWolf · · Score: 1

      Yes... but you forget... the Renaissance reenactors have a slight advantage on you... THEY have been practicing with their swords for years. They are the real ones we need to take out first, while we still HAVE Guns&Ammo(TM).
      Remember this well.. DEATH TO THE RENNIES!!!

      Oh wait... damn... I'm one of those rennies... please ingnore the previous statements...

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      "A friend in need is a friend indeed... A friend with breasts and all the rest.. a friends that's dressed in leather...
    2. Re:As someone said... by Salant · · Score: 1
      Thats the point you seem em in the city.

      But how many well camo'ed crazies have you seen in the forst???

      None hehehe thats the point

    3. Re:As someone said... by Wellspring · · Score: 3

      I know what the collapse of civilization means.

      My list includes a bastard sword, chain mail, soft leather boots, a number of belt pouches, my trusty travelling spellbook, and fifty feet of rope. As long as I don't bump into El Ravager or Teflon Billy, I should be just fine!

      While you puny mortals use your thrice-cursed 'technology', I will be racking up easy experience points taking out dead-eyed suburbanites as I become the Elvish fighter-mage I was always destined to be.

      Tell Bill that in the coming Age of Sorcery that there can be only one!

    4. Re:As someone said... by Nonesuch · · Score: 1
      Yeah, but this gun-toter says that I have both a gun and food.

      Preparedness means that you not only stock up on food, water and fuel to protect yourself from the elements, but you also stock up on the tools necessary to protect yourself from the people who didn't prepare.

      Guns and food are not mutually exclusive commodities. Where I shop, you can buy both in the same trip.

    5. Re: As someone said... by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1
      Why wouldn't they both be able to eat? Observe the counter-argument:
      1. Guns can kill living things
      2. Animals are living things
      3. By 1 & 2, guns can kill animals
      4. If dead, some animals are edible
      5. Food is edible stuff
      6. By 4 & 5, if dead, some animals are food
      7. By 3 & 6, a gun can convert an animal into food

      Why did I format it this way? Because I'm bored.

      Seriously, though, your argument falls apart, because it assumes a constant world in which either part of the population has edible resources ('food') and part has confiscatory resources ('guns'), or the population is all fed, or it is all armed. Your argument is that the second world is better than the first or third. True, but it is not possible. We live in the first world, and--by an argument whose validity you seem to accept--in that world those who can take eat and those who cannot starve.

      The upshot is that if any man is to be secure, he must either ensure that all men are safe and secure, or that he is able to prevent them from living at his expense. Since the first is impossible, the second is the only viable alternative.

      Pity, though; it'd be nice to feed everyone.

    6. Re: As someone said... by Zugok · · Score: 1

      hmmm, I think the original definitions of first second and thrid worlds have been somewhat distorted. I had thought that first world meant a country was under a capitaist system, second world under a communist regime, and third world has neither politcal alignment. These days first world seems to mean developed, and third world means poor country.

      --
      "I just can't sit while people are saying nonsense in a meeting without saying it's nonsense" J Watson, Sci Am 288:(4)51
    7. Re:As someone said... by Aqualung · · Score: 1

      My list includes a bastard sword, chain mail, soft leather boots, a number of belt pouches, my trusty travelling spellbook, and fifty feet of rope.

      What, no lantern? Looks like the only thing you're destined to becomine is grue-food >;)

      ----
      Dave

      "I love chess! It is like ballet only with more explosions!"

      --

      - Dave
    8. Re:As someone said... by cheese63 · · Score: 4

      Your plan is a little short sighted. You see, I stocked up on guns and ammo, but I also have an underground bunker. I figure I can take the first 30 or so intruders with the blasts from my shotgun, but after the mob climbs over the pile of dead corpses I'll be forced to change out of my army fatigues and into my civilian clothes, and then shout "lets take his food" in an attempt to blend in with the mob. I'll quickly pull one of the corpses over and dress him/her up in the army fatigues, and then claim that he was the shooter. I'll become a hero among the mob, and will assume the position as absolute leader. I'll direct my group to the local armory to overrun the government task forces and take control of their guns and tanks. With my newly armed troops, I will then take control of the region, and later the world.

    9. Re:As someone said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope Ossama Bin Laden takes all you bastards out. Happy New Years, you infidels !!!

    10. Re:As someone said... by zigzag · · Score: 1

      Bring it on, bro. I'll be waitin for ya.

    11. Re:As someone said... by veldrane · · Score: 1

      It was Dilbert's creator. (Scott Adams?)
      Or at least he was the one I heard quote it.

      -Vel

    12. Re:As someone said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what I can't figure out about dressing in camo or army fatigues. Camo is supposed to make you inconspicuous...but everyone I see in camo stands out. It says to me, "this is the guy I should go see when I get hungry after the socio economic collapse because he has food that I and the rest of the hungry mob can take away from him." Hey, if he kills me first...I was going to die of hunger anyway, but I have a chance. That's just my opinion. I'd rather dress like Bubba cuz everybody knows Bubba hasn't laid down any supplies beyond the 12 pack he already drank.

    13. Re:As someone said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stock up food so....you can outsurvive everybody until the end of February?

    14. Re:As someone said... by Troll_Hunter · · Score: 1
      One Molotov Cocktail will take care of you in your bunker..

      And the invading hoardes will have their food pre-heated. :^)

      So keep those hatches or doors closed!

  44. On a serious note... by MrScience · · Score: 5

    I've got a family of five to take care of, so I'm not taking chances. The store was out of water last night (one full isle was empty!), but this morning I snagged 50 gallons (red cross says 1-3 gallons/day/person, so that should last 10-20 days)

    If nothing happens, consider donating your stockpile to your local charity. There are plenty of people that need the food, and that's what I'll be doing after a few days.



    --

    You quitting proves that the karma kap worked. The most annoying of the whores shut up. --CmdrTaco

    1. Re:On a serious note... by MrScience · · Score: 1

      No, no, no. The brains are not hosted in their corpses (or is that corpsi...). They are maintained in something similar to a hydroponics laboratory, interfacing directly with a computer.

      --

      You quitting proves that the karma kap worked. The most annoying of the whores shut up. --CmdrTaco

    2. Re:On a serious note... by HardLogic · · Score: 1

      "Imagine a beowulf of human BRAINS."

      Reconsider. That's a COMMITTEE...

  45. ... by IshamaelNT · · Score: 1

    I don't know about anyone else, but i have enough spam and ramen to keep me alive for... well, you can't live very long off spam and ramen...

    1. Re:... by antibryce · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about?!?!

      It got me through several years of college!

    2. Re:... by kootch · · Score: 2

      I've heard rumors about the spam and ramen combination.

      The rumor is that through the excessive imbibing of preservatives and salts used in the packaging of these two mainstays, it is possible to increase your life-span because of their intrinsic ability to preserve foods through long periods of time...

      they induce a sort of hibernation after a month of that being all you eat, at which point, you go into stasis. At any given moment, people can "thaw" you out by soaking you in a vat of warm water (similar to what was done with Han Solo in "Return of the Jedi"

    3. Re:... by natek · · Score: 1
      That's because your "ramen" is only a cheap imitation of the one true "Pao Mien"! Here in Taiwan I could live forever off of Prince Noodles and President Imperial Big Meals. Well, pao mien AND man tou...

      Nate

  46. Re:My List (If I had time) by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 2
    My list is simple.
    • Water
    • Kerosine and Kerosine stove
    • Warm clothes and blankets
    • Ramen
    • Canned food
    • Can opener
    • Powdered drinks
    • Jerky
    • Pictues of friends
    • Dog food for dog
    • 2 cases of 00 buckshot
    • 2 cases of .40 180 grain jhp
    • 2 cases of .22lr 40 grain
    • 20 cases of 155 grain 9x19mm FMJ for the Uzi
    • 10 LAWS rockets
    • Deisel oil for surplus Sherman tank
    • Spare batteries, gasoline, oil and .50 BMG belted ammo for Honda (for autodueling)
    • EMP generator with 50 mile radius to wipe out all non-shielded electronics in the Portland-Vancouver area
    • Toothbrush
    • Toothpaste

    Anything else you could recommend?

  47. Famous Last Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T. Rex upon seeing comet falling: "Yarg!!! I AM A TYRANoSAURUS!!! What is a puny comet to ME?!!! Yarg" Romans Upon Seeing Barbarians: "OO dear, look at those dreaded barbarians how uncooth" USA at Y2K: "Remain calm, all is well" The rulers of the earth at any given time always have a hard time giving it up to the next rulers. But it's inevitable.

  48. Re:Am I the only moron manning their machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand that feeling except for me it is even better not only is it my system. It belongs to a Billion dollar a year company and I am just a temp.
    My back up plan if I can't fix any problem that my arise sorry I am just the temp admin. assisted. What do I know.
    Maybe you should have hired me on full-time as a tech before the year end. Rather then being cheap and letting me hold my title.

  49. Re:My List by palutke · · Score: 1

    Only 10 condoms but 48 rolls of toilet paper? Either you're not getting as much as you think, or you need to see a gastrointestinal specialist. :)

    --
    'I ain't a liar, baby, and I ain't proud I just want what I'm not allowed.' -- Violent Femmes, 36-24-36
  50. The Person who said it... by docvego · · Score: 1

    If I'm not Mistaken it was Scott Adams who said that one.


    DocVego
    "The Cure Your Looking For"

    --
    DocVego
    fngeeks.net
  51. Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... 300lbs wheat - Check 150lbs corn - Check 500lbs assorted grains, rice and beans - Check 100lbs sugar - Check 20lbs honey - Check month supply canned goods - Check 100 gallons water - Check garden seeds - Check radiation survey meter - Check many batteries - Check berkfield water filter - Check many propane bottles - Check tiny generator - Check 30 gallons gasoline in approved containers - Check 800 rounds 7.62x39 - Check Chicom AK cleaned and oiled - Check .357 ammo - Doh! .22 ammo - Doh! 12 gauge ammo - Doh! Wild Turkey - Doh! Shit. Another trip to Wal-mart. Cpt_Kirks

    1. Re:Let's see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While your there you might as well get all the things you checked, cause I'm taking thenm while your out...;)

  52. Re:NYC Police Prepared & Masdison Square Garden by xtremex · · Score: 1

    We are about 5 blocks from Time Square...they are predicting terrorist attacks..basically 14 million morons will be watching Dick Clark..some bastard drops a grenade...THAT's nothing...wait until 12 million panicking people start going crazy! I'd take a grenade attack any day

    --
    If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  53. Kill the Fuzzy Animals and Drink the Dirty Water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I live in Austin... the best thing to have is a gun so that I can kill and eat bambi. I might drink the lake water... but I think I would rather get drunk. The second best thing would be an aluminum can and some gun so that I could build a MacG style nuke to scare off the perverts in the neighborhood. Damn those perverts!

  54. The List by IANALBIPOIS · · Score: 1

    1. My pet lemur (named Mr. Groove)- to steal from other survivors
    2. Oxygen
    3. Kleenex Tissue - Makes great toilet paper and tissue
    4. Rubber Bands
    5. Typing paper
    6. Frozen "White Castle" food
    7. Generator
    8. VCR
    9. 10 Gallons Gas
    10. $300 in batteries
    11. My entire collection of the Andy Griffith Show
    12. My Macintosh
    13. Assortment of Jelly Beans
    14. Products containing CFCs
    15. My Guitar

    G^is la revido mia amikos, Jimmy Smith

    --
    /* Signature goes here I am not a lawyer, but I play one in school */
  55. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for that useless comment?

  56. Safety by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    The plane has a landing light (like a huge floodlight). I've landed at small country airfields (grass strips and the like) at night with no runway lights -- it really isn't too difficult. If the city goes dark we plan to head south-west, to a particular airfield we know quite well with a very large runway (LOT, Lewis University), 7000'. This assumes total power outage everywhere -- if power outages do occur but are limited in scope, finding an area of lights and landing at a nearby, well-lit field will be a non-issue.

    Areas of firework activity are NOTAMed (NOtices To AirMen) and temporarilly prohibited. 1000' above the ground is plenty hight to avoid fireworks. Avoiding bullets is a non-issue. We will avoid clusters of such activity, such as Cabrini Green and parts of the South side, but even if we did not, 1000-1500' AGL is high enough rob all but long range rifle bullets of nearly all of their energy. That danger is not too significant, and we will be avoiding the areas of greatest gunfire activity. As for big geek rockets going off, it is possible, though it would be extremely illegal to do so without NOTAMing the airspace ahead of time (if they go higher than a couple hundred feet, and the FAA does go after people who do that sort of thing unannounced and thereby endanger air traffic, especially in the vicinity of large airports such as Midway and O'Hare). The likelihood of that is very, very small. Being anyplace on New Year's Eve (Y2K or not) is a calculated risk, butIMHO hanging out in the average big crowd is much more risky than our little jaunt over the city will be.

    --
    The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
  57. Re:Y2k Update by Sethb · · Score: 2

    I hear you there, I'm the Y2K dood for the College of Humanities & Fine Arts at the University of Northern Iowa, and I've got all of our systems taken care of except for ONE GUY, a Prof with a Pentium 120 running Windows 3.11 and a slew of old software. I've been trying to get his computer updated for a month and a half, to no avail, he's never available. I guess he'll have some fun when he gets back, it'll be interesting to have a test case to observe, if nothing else. :)
    ---

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    When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. --Robert A. Heinlein
  58. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but wacking someone with a baseball bat is more fun

  59. If we shouldn't worry, why does the government? by *Pres* · · Score: 1

    Funny how these days it's so "in" to not worry about Y2K. But until 1/1/2000 nobody knows what will or won't happen. So IMHO all this macho talk about "nothing's gonna happen" is exactly that: macho talk. FYI, our governments *are* preparing to deal with possible disasters or terrorist threats. They need the public to stay calm and not panic. And we're doing exactly what we're supposed to do. Coincidence? ;-)

  60. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by Kp2 · · Score: 1

    Well, I'm living in Oregon right now. I'm stocking a 12 gauge, a 20 gauge, and a 22 handgun with boxes of hollow-points. I'm also stocking my girl and a shiny vinyl shirt and beer. Add this to my Apple //e and //c; Indigo 2, Sparc 2, PPro, 386 and 486; I'm ready to fuck and protect!

    --
    Eat my butt
  61. Re:Learning from Y2K by ufdraco · · Score: 2
    Actually, this is being worked on, believe it or not.

    See RFC 2550 for all the glorious details. I'll leave it to you to decide whether it is a reasonable assumption that the computer systems of today will really outlast our solar system (let alone the end of the universe) and/or still have the same system of time (24 hours, dated from 1 CE, etc) many many years from now (the RFC extends *that* far). Either way, we'll never have a rollover again if we follow the RFC.

    --

    ufdraco

  62. Y2K... by nuxx · · Score: 1

    I'm going to be spending my Y2K inside of some sort of bunker at one of the big three auto manufacturers tech centers in the Detroit area. It seems that we'll have various state and fedral government organizations sitting around with us (watching us?) too... This makes the extent of my preparations a DAT of everything important that I've ever written, in my pocket. That, and various non-alcoholic bevarages, realistic enough to mess with management's head.

  63. Re:nobody remembered by Haven · · Score: 2

    the geeks at the compound can use their PII processors as TP

  64. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Doctor+Memory · · Score: 1

    I plan to tie my network cables to my disk drives and create a 25GB bolo.

    --
    Just junk food for thought...
  65. The Feds come a knock'n by Kagato · · Score: 1

    Anyone wann'a take some bets on if the Feds on going to come a knocking on the Slashdot doors to censor the talk of Y2K guns and looting?

  66. Of Ebay and Army Surplus.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I took the wind fall from my Redhat and VA IPO's, bought armor plating from an old Battle ship, a Dell Power Edge Server and a couple of generators on ebay. I spent the weekend welding it on my trailer. When my wife asked what I was doing, I told her it was vitally important that at least 1 quake3 server survive the collapse of civilization.

  67. NYC Police Prepared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have it on reasonable authority (A NYC Hospital Admin who staff was told to not stray more than 5 minutes from the hospital tommorow night) that the NYPD have purchase 250K body bags.

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Posted anonymously as this is not supposed to be public.

  68. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Alpha42 · · Score: 1

    Uhh.. no.

    Most modern PoS (Point of sale, not to be confused with anything else I'd like to call them) systems these days are useless if they lose contact with 'the brain'... places like CompUSA, Best Buy, etc are out of luck if something goes wrong. I know the local Best Buys here in Baltimore just closed up and went home. :( There's no procedure (or equipment) for them to do any checkouts 'manually'....

  69. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by technos · · Score: 1

    Baseball bats require you to be near your attacker. Guns don't.
    Baseball bats require coordination and strength. Guns don't.
    With a baseball bat, you get one chance to disable your attacker. With a Colt, you get six!
    Gunpowder makes a much better firestarter than a Louisville Slugger
    Guns do not require stealth. When you've got a baseball bat-equipped someone scoped at 200 yards, it really doesn't matter if he can hear the shot.

    --
    .sig: Now legally binding!
  70. Make love not war#$@$@$ by discore · · Score: 1

    look, wouldn't everyone rather be making love at the stroke of the doom clock instead of sitting in their roof with a loaded shotgun and a 1/3 full bottle of jagermiester?
    lets get our priorities straight here.

    tyler

    1. Re:Make love not war#$@$@$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      look, wouldn't everyone rather be making love at the stroke of the doom clock instead of sitting in their roof with a loaded shotgun and a 1/3 full bottle of jagermiester?
      if things go well, it'll be all three.
    2. Re:Make love not war#$@$@$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can have our cake and eat it too :) My schedule for the evening: 11:59 Hop into bed 12:04 Hop out of bed and apoligize 12:05 Run to the roof

  71. Re:Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey! Alcoholics go to meetings... :-)

  72. OT: Open Source Your Signature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What license is your sig currently under? Does it have a sourceforge entry or some other repository where we can submit bug reports and additional feature requests? This /. bug would have never happened if it was an OpenSignature(TM). I recommend the following replacement signature that enhances readability and comments to de-obfuscate the code a litte.

    /* sig_pi.c: This signature prints out PI.
    * To compile: gcc -o sig_pi sig_pi.c
    */

    #include <math.h>

    int main (void) {

    /*The following function prints out PI to 10 decimal places */
    printf("PI is approximately: %.10lf", M_PI);

    /*Return 0 to the OS upon success*/
    return 0;

    }

    1. Re:OT: Open Source Your Signature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real pretty but unfortunately breaks netiquette by being >4 lines. :)

  73. Uhmmm... by tpck · · Score: 1
    You people are all nuts!

    Am I the only one that hasn't made any special preparations? I haven't bought food, water, ammo (no gun, see) or anything like that. Well, actually, I do have a little bit more orange juice in the house than usual. But that's mearly a conincidence.

    My biggest worry on Y2K is that all you rampaging nutcases with guns will come out of the word work and run amok causing chaos in the streets. If you do, I'd just like to offer one piece of advice: go for the drunk partygoers first, they are easy prey. Don't come after me, I have a baseball bat and I'm not afraid to use it.

  74. Wish list by babbage · · Score: 2
    If the end of the technological world means the end of first posts, Natalie Portman's whatever, gleeps, and all the other debris that keeps Slashdot from being as great as it should be, maybe it'll be worthwhile after all.

    I'll miss the Simpsons though.

    Oh well, c'est la guerre.

    Goodbye technological era, we hardly knew ye. heh heh



  75. Is your tap still running? by Skip666Kent · · Score: 3

    Fill yer own damn bottles! It's that easy!

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    **>>BELCH
    1. Re:Is your tap still running? by MrScience · · Score: 1

      Yes, but I didn't have any bottles.
      That, and I don't really care for the tap water here. Too many additives. :-)

      --

      You quitting proves that the karma kap worked. The most annoying of the whores shut up. --CmdrTaco

  76. Re:Planning ahead by snorks · · Score: 1

    [ insert kickass Sweet Leaf riff ]

  77. Lets see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Whiskey--check

    Hookers -- check

    Jello -- check

    Suite at Ceasers -- check

    ok lets rock!

  78. They're all at the bowling alley.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ..or the bar..or watchin some NASCAR racin'..or at Wal-Mart.

    If there's hungry hordes at my door, I'm gonna wonder 'what the -fuck- are these guys doing 50 miles from civilization?'

    Think about it, Rambo Jr., if things get that far out of control, there's a little thing called the Nat'l Guard...or worse, the US Army. You mean to tell me you think they're not on their toes rightaboutnow? Remember the L.A. riots? Were you alive?

  79. I'll wait by georgeha · · Score: 1

    until you've fired thousands and thousands of rounds, and then come at your with my trusty flintlock, loaded with hand melted shot made from fishing weights, and hand made gunpowder (charcoal, potash and saltpeter iirc).

    George

  80. It's the booze that did it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..or was that some kind of fuel additive?

    1. Re:It's the booze that did it... by technos · · Score: 1

      Bought the booze 'cuz I wasn't sure I could fix the carbuerator with what I bought. I'd rather be drunk on the side of the road waiting for help to arrive than sober.

      --
      .sig: Now legally binding!
  81. Alcohol. by Myoot · · Score: 1

    Ah, I see that you too have realized that alcohol will be a valuable trade good in the upcoming Empire of the Beast-Lord. Josh

  82. China and Nukes.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. Don't forget China only has 1 time zone, yes they could have 3 or 4 but all the clocks in shina are set to the same time. So id there is a problem, it will hit ALL of china at once!

  83. How in the hell would the water turn off? by Ateran · · Score: 1

    Will someone please tell me why there's any reason to think that the water could turn off? I keep turning it over in my head, and I can't think of any critical systems in water distribution that should (read: I sure hope not), give a shit what year it is...

    1. Re:How in the hell would the water turn off? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Water pumps have enbedded timers. keep pump on for so long, the shut off. Well if the counter goes to 00 (binary = 0000000000000000 = test mode). then the pumps will become unstable. also if the power goes out then of course pumps can't pump. The timer thing also applies to water gates, dams, so on. OH they may not go into test mode, it depends on there design. so it is only a maybe. this is the same principle as any embedded system.

      Just for the record I would like to say the most of the money spent on Y2K testing/fixing went into fiking thins like reports that would print out 1/1/00. Things if somebody look at it they would know it was wrong.."it says here you bought this pIII 100 years ago, we ain't gonna let youz retunz that! what do you think? we stoopis?" of course the employees at fry's would get confused, but thats another story...

    2. Re:How in the hell would the water turn off? by tophewing · · Score: 1

      My Ex works for a company that manufactures the sensors/pumps/valve controls etc that are used in both clean water and sewage treatment plants. A year and a half ago they issued a statement that a good portion of their hard-coded circuits were not Y2K compliant and could fail. This could result in interruption in flow or failure to control flow (which could cause other problems). It went on to further say that they did not have the resources to manufacture enough replacement parts, nor have the trained staff if they did have the parts and as such wanted all of their customers to create contingency plans. As their stuff is used widely across the globe.. I'm not so sure everyone is going to have water the morning after.

      --
      WTF?!?
  84. Something.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ..wierd is going on on NY. I am Not the paraniod/conspiracy type.

    That said why are the welding manhole covers in time square? 7000 police officers in time square? 250 Kbody bags? local miltary gearing up for full alert? Late night pazza deliveries to gonerment/miltary buildings? after see all that NOW i'm paranoid.

    what are they planning? I don' think Y2K is going to be a problem but if all hell breaks lose and there is mass panic all this won't mater it just means no one will be able to escaped the panic by ducking into the sewers, 7000 dead police officers, military can't control people in a mass panic, (nobody can). All the experts say when this does happen, it has to run it's course, or it will be worse in the long run.

    Wierd, just wierd

    1. Re:Something.. by kvajk · · Score: 1

      Well, Y2K has received a lot of hype. And NYC is the big American New Year's event. So, they're figuring that if somebody wants to celebrate Y2K by blowing something up, Times Square would be the obvious target.

      As far as the manhole covers go, it just makes sense, to ensure that nobody plants a bomb under one, right?

      I doubt anything is going to happen, particularly with all those cops around, but if I were them I'd be nervous too. It's their job to be paranoid about stuff like this.

      Personally, I'm gonna spend Y2K on a friend's couch in a pleasant little suburban neighborhood in California, drunk as all hell. :)

  85. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by dsl · · Score: 1
    CD Drive - Open and use as a cup holder..

    But when there's no power, how do you propose to get the drive open?

    --
    I refuse, on principle, to have a .sig.
  86. Brass, Primers, Powder, Lead & Reloader. by Da+Unicorn · · Score: 1

    RANT
    Well, I only have 2K rounds built for the .44 Mag, but I have 50# of powder, about 10K JHP 240 grainers, several thousand Large Pistol Primers. 3 wheelguns and 4 long guns to burn them with. I can kill anything on earth with one of those placed properly. Defense and meat production in one.

    When we hear the chatter of those AK's and other ammo wasters, we hunker down and let them get in easy range and the wife I and I blow these cool
    1/2" holes through anyone attempting to appropriate our supplies. Gotta love how those .44 JHPs tear up tissue.

    Not much use against armor or in a pitched battle, but as we learned in The Nam the one with the most firepower does not necessarily win the battle or the war. Guerilla tactics will see me through any assault on our secluded home. Hopefully it won't be necessary. Looters may or may not hear the shot. They sure as hell won't know where it came from. We have snow so we will be dressed in white.


    Just think of it ... 1 Looter would feed the cats for a long time.

    Enough with the paranoia.

    /RANT

    ;=>>

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    #941 ;=> 43.4 N 91.9 W
  87. Re:Learning from Y2K by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I tired to allow for five digit years in some software I worked for last year, but sadly we had to cut it out - it probably would have been useful too as it was software for a big RBOC. You know they'll still be using the same sofwtare come Y10000.

    --
    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  88. Don't forget the twinkies... by rm+-rf+/etc/* · · Score: 1


    A closet full of sawed off shotguns, ammo, and twinkies will get you quite far in a disaster. Don't accept imitatins, twinkies are the only food guaranteed to be fresh long after you aren't.

  89. Re:Learning from Y2K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being a very astute programmer, I have noticed this problem also. But I agree with the previous post, in 8000 years I hope my ashes (which will be shot into space) will have reached a distant sun or been sucked into a black hole.

    As for the 2036 problem, we'll probably start working on that in 2030. I intend to be a long since retired millionaire by then. Not to mention its in March so I don't have to worry about freezing to death up here in the Northeast (although March can be a bit nippy)

    Seriously though, the 2036 problem is simply a recompile to fix. Granted, hardware and OS's need to support 64-bit integers and the time libraries need to be updated. I doubt it will take anywhere near the effort the Y2k bug has required.

  90. 8000 years from now I'll be very dead. by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 1
    And if I die tomorrow or in 50 years it won't really make a difference: I still won't care what sort of havoc is being caused in the year 10000.

    Unless I get frozen. Like Walt Disney.

    - A.P.
    --


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    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  91. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guns are only useful if you are prepared to shoot first. Most people have trouble doing that in a war, much less in your own home town.

  92. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by G27+Radio · · Score: 2

    My local electric company, Jacksonville Electric Authority, already sent out past due notices this month to some customers that apparently haven't paid their bill since December of 1899. The article didn't say anything about the 1.5%/per month late fee though as far as I know. And my electric bill hasn't arrived yet so I can't check mine out first hand.

    Forgive my lack of confidence in the "nothing's going to happen" attitude. Not that I'm freaked out either. Whether I live or die, I won't have to sit through any more Y2K meetings--provided I'm not sent directly to hell for eternity after the New Years Eve party ;)

    numb

  93. Y2K? by jbarnett · · Score: 1

    So what is the deal with this whole Y2K thing I keep hearing about? It sounds like geek speak for something... I need to re-read the jargon-file again. Is there a howto or FAQ on it some where? I searched http://linuxdoc.org but didn't find anything useful.

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    "`Ford, you're turning into a penguin. Stop it.'" -THHGTTG
  94. some people have such a skewed view of reality by tap · · Score: 1

    What's going to happen on Jan 1st? An accidental nuclear holocaust? Terrorists blowing up the space needle? Looters killing you for the jugs of water you're hoarding? Planes falling out of the sky? The dead rising from their graves to wreck the wrath of a vengeful god upon the earth?
    Not bloody likely. When the new year's parties are over, and most people no worse off than a hangover, what Y2K related event will have killed the most people? Most probably drunk drivers. Funny you don't see anyone worrying about that, even though it's a much more real danger than anything an AK47 can fend off.

  95. my y2k plans... by kortens · · Score: 1

    Well I went to Walmart to purchase a gun but found out that there's a 3 day waiting period in VA so I headed to the toy section and got several orange 9mm's. This way I can tell the bad guys I have a gun and not be lying. I then went to the local liquor store to get 2 gallons each of whiskey, vodka (for bloody mary's at work the next day), and tequila (since it's not warm here I'll pretend I'm in Mexico). In case the power goes out I charged up the laptop battery and loaded the hard drive with mp3's so at least I can listen to music while the world blows up. And just in case I downloaded much internet porn because everybody knows that the adult sites aren't y2k compliant.

  96. Mel Gibson Knows Best by PepperDude · · Score: 1

    I'm borrowing my father-in-laws' welder to turn my Ford Explorer into a Mad Max style buggy.

    My shopping will consist of hockey/motocross equipment and as many crossbows as I can find (for the turret, see?)

    1. Re:Mel Gibson Knows Best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahaha...good one

  97. Supplies? by FroMan · · Score: 1
    Okey, don't forget the important suff...
    Before midnight...

    1 BFG 2k

    200 Cells

    1 Railgun

    50 Slugs

    1 Hungery Howies phone number (616)457-333
    After midnight...

    1 Elizabeth, for first kiss of the decade...

    1 bed... (see above)
    That'll do it I think...

    --
    Norris/Palin 2012
    Fact: We deserve leaders who can kick your ass and field dress your carcass.
  98. Coffee!, or Being a Lisper in the Post-Apocalypse by noc · · Score: 1
    I'm shocked! There seems to be very little mention of coffee on everyone's lists. I've got about 10 lbs (4.5kg) of good coffee. Sure, I've got canned foods, legumes, pasta, wine, liquor, and iodine crystals for purifying water (I got 'em for backpacking), but what I'll be hiding from the roving post-Apocalyptic gangs is my COFFEE.

    When everything goes to shit and I can't use my lisp system, or scheme, or even Emacs Lisp, and I can only play with lisp problems using pencil, paper, and thought-experiments, I'll need all that coffee more than ever. I admit, though, that I'll be screwed once I run out, because it sure won't grow in the Pacific Northwest!

  99. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    The only NOTAM is for a laser light show near Aarora (169 radial of the DPA VOR, 8.6 nm from 0400 - 0800 zulu - 10:00pm to 2:00 am local time). Fireworks will not be a factor, as they go nowhere near high enough to be a factor (we can circle at 500 feet AGL and watch them if we like). Of course, bullets and amateur rockets are not NOTAMed. My biggest fear, though, is that the forecast will change for the worst and we'll have to cancel the flight because of low ceiling. So far it looks promising, though.

    The ATC systems all rollover at 6:00 PM Chicago time (0000 01/01/2000 zulu time). If that jetliner starts falling my way ATC *should* be able give me a traffic advisory, assuming they are still operating. If they aren't, I'll have 6 hours warning -- unless of course the power drops, in which case I'll have instantaneous warning by looking out the window.

    What's life without a little risk? *grin*

    --
    The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
  100. I'm thinking more along the lines of Spy Hunter... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    (while we're talkin Apple][ games)

    Get on something fast, get the hell outta there, avoiding conflict & shooting stuff that gets in the way.

  101. Re:Walt Disney's not frozen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh yeah I forgot, on the Walt Disney thing. I saw something on TV that he isn't frozen. It just been this great rumor thats been going on for some time...

  102. "There's two kinds of people in this world... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ..those with loaded guns and those who dig, (click-click).....you dig!

    -blondy

  103. Alternative shopping by termite666 · · Score: 1

    Being that I work In San Francisco,I have noticed a lot of plywood in the Bussiness district. I also noticed thge police left forms in our lobby wanting to know who is in charge of our building .San Francisco is not the place to be,with every cop on duty something bad is going to happen knowing these trigger pumping morons . I guess this means no alternative shopping,this year damn

  104. Re:Planning ahead by Darlock · · Score: 1

    Winnipeg is awfully cold in the Winter so we will have to riot and burn things to keep warm.

    I figure that if I hide out for a couple of days, most of the people in the downtown area will have either froze to death or will have killed eachother off. That's when the real looting and pillaging starts !!!

    If you notice some guy running down Portage Ave. with a sword in his hands (swords don't run out of bullets), just remember to yell out "/. rules" and I might spare you because I know you won't eat my meat supply. :)

  105. ..an opportunity for indiscriminate sex... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..a big city, drunken freaks, end(?) of the world & me on an unholy amt of [deleted]...sounds like a good time to me..

  106. Re:you are missing something very important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you just print out Jon Katz reviews. If that's not worthy of being used as toilet paper I don't know what is.

  107. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 1

    I intend to continue using my computers as computers even if society colapses...

    I have as much power as I want, and both my computers couldn't care less what year it is.

    --
    -- The act of censorship is always worse than whatever is being censored. Always.
  108. Hey can I work there too? by law · · Score: 1

    Hmmm.....

    I know this is in bad taste but I want to work where you work.
    Damn a boss with a sense of hummor.
    Just hope it does not get to the last item on that list or it would be a mistake.

    --
    "Think of it as evolution in action."
  109. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by technos · · Score: 1

    Of course it is! Nothing quite like scraping blood, brains and intestines off your aluminum bat after a good whacking. But survival in the Post-Apocalyptic era can't always be fun, can it?

    --
    .sig: Now legally binding!
  110. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by Neuroprophet · · Score: 1

    Come at me with that baseball bat and I'll drop you at 50 yards. I got 500 rounds of ammo saved up. Get real close to me, or I run out of ammo, and I will use my recently sharpened 440 staneless steel blade Katana. Swords are better than bats!

  111. ..wow, you're my hero. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This, ladies & gentlemen is why you were picked on in high school.

  112. the view from here. by bons · · Score: 1
    Hmmm. what time is it?
    Did it work?

    So far my favorite lines at work are: "If there's a lot of problems we'll page you." (Great, you don't trust our software but you trust the paging companies.) and "If the building has no power there will be security people at the dorr to check your bages and let you in." (Obviously they think Windows NT is just as useful without power...)

    Word is ABC & CNN are just doing minute by minute broadcasts. Man, I wish I was still hacking, wouldn't you love to be able to change those screens!

  113. Re:NYC Police Prepared & Masdison Square Garden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've also heard this, as well as supposedly, if something _DOES_ go horribly wrong, they've been authorized to use Madison Square Garden as Corpse Storage.. ya know, just toss 'em on the ice.

  114. Re:My list by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
    Fish's "Black Powder and Alcohol" was our Filksong for this past week on my Science Fiction radio show (no, not on the internet, we still use radio frequencies for more than bluetooth and PCS).

    I keep threatening to play "Blue Bread Mold", but that's been a forbidden song ever since we had about 20 of us kicked out of an all night diner for singing it over and over and over again (it was when the second guitar came into the restaurant that the manager asked us to leave).

    --
    Evan

    --
    "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
  115. I haven't prepared at all... by Formula_409 · · Score: 1

    I figure that if civilization does collapse and the apocalypse begins, I'm just gonna walk the earth, like that guy in kung fu. You know, walk from place to place, get in adventures, that sort of thing.

    --
    Fight the man, Hey wait... I'm the man
  116. Y2K shopping list: 1 item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two words: corrugated tin.
    Ever watch post apocalyptic movies? Everyone lives in corrugated tin huts. Everyone. I figure if I purchase enough corrugated tin now, I can make a pretty good life for myself in the hot/cold tundra/wasteland that is our next week.

    Since I do have the corrugated tin market cornered, I will offer a small tidbit of advice to the person saying, "But AC, how exactly can I cash in on the apocalypse, too?" I've got two more words for you: rope netting. Yup, you gotta store stuff in your corrugated tin hut, don't you? What better way to store it (apparently), than to hang it in rope netting here and there? Also serves wonders as a curtain, keeping the flies out of your Post-Apocalyptic saloon (or keeping them in, if you like that sort of thing).

    There. My gift to the world. Run to your surplus stores. Buy rope netting. Annie needs your help. Drink more Ovaltine.

  117. booo, you suck moderator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that was funny, moderate it up

  118. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by Cuthalion · · Score: 2

    As I'm sure many of you have noticed, the best way to play Oregon Trail was to forgo things like food at the start of the game, stocking up on ammo instead. Then, you cut a swath through the wildlife on the way out to Oregon to feed yourself.

    No, the only way to guarantee a win is to buy large negative ammounts of food and ammo, and use the proceeds to buy several hundred oxen, which will carry you accross the country in one day of game time.

    Some versions had some kind of weird bug that prevented this strategy from working, however.

    --
    Trees can't go dancing
    So do them a big favor
    Pretend dancing stinks!
  119. Why wait for Armageddon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    No, see..he's waiting for -you-.

    I don't care if it's Y2K or last Thursday, if you try busting into my house, you're getting "capped"... in the "dome", I might add.

  120. Guns! how 'quaint' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You keep your guns, but when my home made mustard gas starts raining on you, you can use them to put a round in your head to stop the pain.

  121. Re:Oh no! by mtnbkr · · Score: 1

    I hunt deer with a 357mag (Ruger GP100) loaded with hot ammo (I hunt in steep terrain, a handgun in a holster is easier to deal with than a rifle or shotgun on a sling or in hand). 50 yards would be no biggie. You're correct though, a rifle or shotgun is a better "disaster" weapon.

    Chris

  122. y2k by karmalien · · Score: 1

    remember when the apocalpyse zombies come aim at their heads

  123. Re:Religious Candles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup, 15 gallons of beer ready to in kegs and enough stuff to make at least another 20 gal. I think I'm ready. Speaking of which, I should go keg the stuff now.

    Tonya

  124. I'm leading the world by Zugok · · Score: 1

    I'm in NZ, leading the world to the next millenium. As I type this, it's 12noon, 12 hours to go, but bloosdy heck, I need an umbrella. It's bloody raining here, and it's supposed to be summer.

    --
    "I just can't sit while people are saying nonsense in a meeting without saying it's nonsense" J Watson, Sci Am 288:(4)51
  125. Re:Bank Statements by cebe · · Score: 1

    LOL my thoughts exactly... only I have $92.58 in my account (enough to go buy my liquor and pay my portion of a hotel room with friends) and I owe 27 grand in student loans.

    and yes... it has begun to go awry. I have cnn on behind me and headline news just reported 2000 some bank machines went down because they're starting to read it as 1900. (probably reading ahead... ex.. someone depositing money that they regularily cant get for 3 business days or something)

    woohoo... this is going to be exciting
    happy new year slashdot :) I'm gone to party now...

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  126. Re:Oh no! by Jonathan+White · · Score: 1

    Not necessarily, the best disaster weapon is whatever the user is most comfortable and best trained with, period.

    However if the user is proficient with both a shotgun and a handgun, the shotgun would normally be the better weapon to have when cvilization collapses.

  127. Re:The Golden Bee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A Mac10 is a 9mm parabelum(sp?) weapon and would have an effective range of 60 yards or so. (9mm para is a handgun round.) Don't count on hitting anything accurately past that. As for max range, maybe four or five miles, but don't quote me on that. It's just a guess.

    .30-06 has a max effective range of roughly 800 yards, but it would take quite a good scope and a rifle with a free-floating barrel (not touching the forearm) to come close to hitting anything accurately that far out. As a general rule, if it's more than 500 yards away, you might not want to bother.(Especially if you're not practiced at that range.)

    If you just want distance, any mid to high power rifle has a max range extending several miles if shot at a 45 degree angle from the ground. Even a whimply little .22 can go a couple of miles. I can't tell you exact distances for .30-06, though, as I just don't have the data. I'd make a rough guess of 10-15 miles.

    For the best accuracy, always remember to fire a fouling shot if the gun has been cleaned. The first bullet will always be off target from where the rest will go. If the rifle is new, I'd even go as far as putting 100 rounds through it before even trying to sight in a scope. For long distance accuracy, go bolt action only. Semi-auto is inherently less accurate due to the physics of the action.

    I can't help but find it a little humorous to hear the sheple bleat about these "nasty, new weapons, like 9mm handguns". 9mm para will be celebrating it's birthday in 2002. .45 ACP in 2004. And .30-06 got it's name by being put into military service in 1906. Anyone want to guess why the standard issue .45 is named "1911"?

    So much for being new.

  128. Re:My List by cruise · · Score: 1

    You try drinking 10 bottles of DR Pepper mixed with 5 bottles of capt and see how much toilet paper you use :)

    As for the condoms.... "10 condoms is enough for anybody" :)




    You are a threat to free speach and must be SILENCED!

  129. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Woody77 · · Score: 1

    Paper clip hole... Of course!

  130. Well, it was nice knowing ya.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You'll be the one the boys in blue (or green..or black if you're reeeeally bad) will be after. My ammo's for guarding my stash & hunting food. Guess if you have nowhere to go but the city that's your thing, but...duh.. If you have a deathwish, great..

    Seriously though..its going to be just like any other geek New Years...you'll end up watching Xfiles reruns & playing VtM.

  131. Re:You and Katz both. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah. Except he can't program a mindstorm to work its way out of a paper bag. You're one up on him!

  132. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    However, if you're going to use the P2 for #2, might I suggest that you remove the heat sink first...

    Maybe the best use for these old processors is as slinghshot projectiles....

    /. Geek launching old PII at the enemy: --Fift--- (sound of PII flying through the air)

    Attacker: Arrgh!! I can't see, I've got CPU pins sticking into my eye!!!.

    Attacker: a few minutes later: This is Pentium Xxxxxxx of BorG. Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated...

  133. Re:Religious Candles by penguinboy · · Score: 1
    a non working 20 meg 5 1/4 inch hard drive to cudgel with.



    Nice, though old 8" floppy drives cudgel much better. Of course, the platters from huge, ancient HDs can make quite good projectiles..

  134. Popcorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Won't the microwave for the popcorn require electricity? I guess there won't be a power outage after all...

    1. Re:Popcorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you time it right, you can probably pop your popcorn with one of the stray Russian nukes that will be landing shortly after the new year.

    2. Re:Popcorn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your timing isn't correct..... The nukes will be falling before midnight since rusia is in a different time zone..... So in the new year you will be eating popcorn that is already cold, although it will glow in the dark.....

    3. Re:Popcorn by KnightStalker · · Score: 1

      Actually, since they'll hit 2000 21-17 hours earlier than us, we'll probably be toasted before ever reaching the new year :-)

      --
      * And remember, it's spelled N-e-t-s-c-a-p-e, but it's pronounced "Mozilla."
  135. What a lovely green glow. by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

    While all of you are stockpiling your precious bullets, I will be digging for plutonium at the local reactor

    Guns won't allow you to take the Great Lakes region, but tactical nukes might give you a shot.

    (Note to any NSA or FBI agents reading this: I'm only kidding :-) )

    1. Re:What a lovely green glow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They know you're kidding, can't make nukes from that. Of course you can use it as a 'biological attack'!

    2. Re:What a lovely green glow. by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      You're right. I'd need a breeder reactor...

      There are a bunch of nuclear engineers here at Penn State. Maybe they would join me.

      I can see it now. They have the brains. I have the unquenchable homicidal desire. Together we would be unstoppable!!

  136. y2k solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #!/bin/csh -f if ($#argv $argv[$i] @ i = $i + 1 end Now that that's solved, what do we do about the date problem?

  137. Yeah, at pleasecomekillme.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone risk exposing themselves like that?

  138. Time to be compliant by dattaway · · Score: 3

    I'm inspired. I'm not expert about Y2K issues, but I'm afraid my refrigerator is not yet compliant. One trip to the liquor store down the street should fix that. Maybe put one of these X10 sensors in there and a perl script to log a pretty graph through a www interface if I need to check the temperature of the vital beverages. It never hurts to be fully prepared for events that only happen once in a 1000 years.

  139. what the hell is wrong with them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Irish Wiskey? Are they stupid? The Irish can't make wiskey! The Scots invented it! Scotch Wiskey is the best in the world. Wouldn't you like to spend the Apocalypse enjoying a shotglass full of Scotch!!!

    Just because you are a geek, doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have taste.

    1. Re:what the hell is wrong with them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ssshhhhh.. I don't want people hording all the real whisky!

  140. Dang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a bunch of alcoholics!

    1. Re:Dang by VChris · · Score: 2

      Y2K is at our feet

      A world apocolypse that we reap

      As I stand to watch the show

      A bottle of brandy - Down It Goes!


      --


      The difference between reality and fantasy is a nice soundtrack.
  141. Not ready for this afternoon... by re-geeked · · Score: 1

    Let's see:

    My car needs gas and an oil change,
    I have 4 dollars in my pocket and I'm $450 into my $500 overdraft protection,
    There's probably nothing in the fridge to make dinner with,
    My home machine's lame Win95 install hasn't been upgraded...

    I'm thinking I'll have to scramble to make it through the weekend even if nothing happens!

    Happy end of Y2K hysteria!

    --
    "You can't get something for nothing." - my grandfather, on the stock market and Reaganomics.
  142. Y2K and the Great Pacific NorthWet by Dubhain · · Score: 1

    Stopped at Win-Co the other day and stocked-up on food and necessities, but that had more to do with the fact that we didn't have any food in the house than fears of Y2K. Mention of Bushmills got me t' thinkin', though. I really should drive into town and pick-up a fifth of Jameson's. Be nice to have a nip to celebrate the new millenium. (My late) Grandpa would approve.

    Non-geek friends have been phoning and eMailing to ask me (at this late date) whether they should do anything about their computers for Y2K. I keep thinking I should BOFH them more....

    Haven't seen or heard of any great rushes on the stores out here (Salem, Oregon) yet. Last I'd heard, the stores had ordered more bottled water for the expected panic, and were stuck with a massive surplus. Then again, it rains here in the winter, so people may be planning to do the equivelent of the "snow-melt" thing. News services are all prattling that Portland's the most likely target for terrorist crap in the PacNW, now that Seattle's cancelled it's Y2K bash. Doesn't make much difference to me, as the wife and I were planning on staying home anyhow, and screwing-in the new year.

    Yeah, I've a shotgun, but don't expect to have to use it. Going to stay out of the city for a couple of days, though. Some of the more rabid religious types are getting downright wierd about the new millenium stuff. Luckily my wife and I do the home office thing, so as long as I've a net.connection, we're good to go. We're up in the hills above the city, so it should be fun to watch the show if of the zealots decide to hasten the second coming a bit. I'm thinking of picking-up a telescope, when I'm in town today.

    I was born and raised in Michigan (Flint / Flushing). Miss the snow. Hope you guys are enjoying it for me. I'd rather be shoveling than squelching around in the mud any day, but the wife has family out here....

  143. Happy Holidays! by Null_Packet · · Score: 0

    BTW- was it just me or did Rob forget that if his Microwave needs electricity, so does the freezer for all that Lasagna? Just curious.

    NP

    1. Re:Happy Holidays! by Hooptie · · Score: 1

      Snow!
      What snow!?!
      It is 75 degrees outside right now...

      --
      "Heavens, it appears that my weewee has been stricken with rigor mortis!" -- Stewie Griffin
    2. Re:Happy Holidays! by ShadowBlade · · Score: 1

      Well, the freezer isn't a problem. Just toss it outside in the snow!

    3. Re:Happy Holidays! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be from California or something. They live in MICHIGAN. Just leave the Lasagna outside and it will be frozen and safe (as long as the wolves don't develop a taste for frozen lasagna).

    4. Re:Happy Holidays! by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 2

      No you just pack it with Snow. (Ofcourse we havn't had any snow yet here in boston, so all bets are off).

      --
      Erlang Developer and podcaster
    5. Re:Happy Holidays! by flsquirrel · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't leaving the lasagna out in the snow let it open to theft by all the militant alcoholics with guns, baseball bats, katanas and broken beer bottles? Plus, you'll have to leave the safety of your bunker when you get hungary which would give someone in camo a chance to shoot you for food.

  144. Car...feh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hope the car's for boffing in & not going anywhere.. Think rushhour traffic's bad? Motorcycles, baby... 50+mpg & goes nearly anywhere. I knew I learned how to shoot left-handed for a reason..

  145. What pain have they got... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ..to drown?

    It's us fucks that have bitter meager lives that need the Drink. Too stressful today, geekin with the quad-Xeon Q3 box & teaching the Aibo a trick?

  146. Re:Soup man.... Soup! by Nspectre+Anatomy · · Score: 1

    And six months from now you'll be,



    "Steak, AGAIN?!!? Gawd, what I wouldn't give for some soup!"



    =8-)

  147. Y2K Women checklist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make sure you have a good stock of Great Northern beans and Lentil beans. Actually, make sure you have everything on this checklist.

  148. Long live ... by haus · · Score: 1

    I wish you the best of luck in your new Michigan regime, whoever they may be.

    Being a resident of the greater Washington DC area, I am hoping that the US government will be able to take control of the Y2K confusion and insert a stable government in DC by the cover of fireworks and nightfall.

    all persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental. - Kurt Vonnegut

  149. Trust the computer industry to shorten Year 2000 by dustpuppy · · Score: 2
    Along the lines of amusing Y2k quotes:

    "Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place."

    Thought I'd share that quote with the community - quite amusing I thought.

  150. Nice, but nothing's going to happen by mind21_98 · · Score: 2

    For example:

    1/1/99: Nothing happened
    9/9/99: Nothing happened
    10/1/99: Nothing happened
    GPS Rollover: Nothing happened

    Case in point: it's almost unlikely something will happen. But it's still good to prepare anyways.

    1. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      isn't 101010 the 10th of the 10th month of 2010? (October 10 2010)

      Yeah

      Psst - don't tell anyone, but that's the first day of your eternal life. However, since the day of death comes first you'll never see it.

      dawgzsz
    2. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love MREs, if I ever join the army I'll eat like a king!!! I think they're pretty tasty compared to ramen, rice, or lentils. If only they were as cheap as ramen...

    3. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Menthos · · Score: 1
      Hmmm... If I remember correctly, the GPS rollover caused some things to happen. But, if I remember correctly, it was no worse than the navigation systems of some cars in japanese rush hour traffic getting a bit paralyzed.

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      GNU/Linux. The Freshmaker.

    4. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by 101010 · · Score: 1

      Hey, watch it with the death proof... I have no plans of killing anyone.

    5. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by mr_spatula · · Score: 1

      Case in point of the problem existing: Look at the number of year digits YOU used. :)

    6. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by CyberPuppet · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I remember last year, i was in a Big W (a store similar to Walmart here in australia) and their computer system went down. All it meant was that checkouts were slower. Maybe thats why Australia is the most prepared country in the world hehe :P

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      So, you've got an O:Line? That dont impress me much du du da du.
    7. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by CyberPuppet · · Score: 1

      actually i prolly should explain this more. They had manual checkout books and prices on every item, so it was just a matter of calling more people off the floor onto the checkouts. Its good to see some companies are prepared for unusual eventualities and not just worried about making money (although they did make more money by being able to stay open hehe)

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      So, you've got an O:Line? That dont impress me much du du da du.
    8. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by MuteflY · · Score: 1

      and as we all know 2001 is the *true* millennium so it all makes perfect sense. good to know ive got an extra year to build up my supplies

    9. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by slackergod · · Score: 5

      Of course something will happen,
      the world is doomed!

      In fact, I can prove it:
      As someone pointed out,
      '42' in binary is 101010
      January 1, 2001 is 01/01/01, or 010101.
      Now, 42 is the meaning of life, the universe,
      and everything.
      010101 is the inverse of 101010,
      so January 1, 2001 is the inverse of life.
      And what is the inverse of life?
      Death, obviously.
      Therefore, January 1, 2001 is the end of all life.

      You were warned. Y2K is a fools' delusion.
      Scully was right. I'll be in my bunker.

    10. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, several companies had issues with 9/9/99. Nothing major, but there were still problems. It's likely to be similar with 1/1/00. I'm just hoping there are enough little problems to make next week fun.

    11. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by staplin · · Score: 1

      If you stocked up on the right stuff, save it for another emergency, or just save on January grcoery bills.

      All you have to do is save the jugs of water for the next time your water pipes are frozen, or the water main is shut off for construction.

      Canned goods can be eaten anytime... you could probably even skip a month's shopping if you are well stocked for Y2K.

      But if you bought army surplus MRE's or other such "survival food" may the gods pity your stomach. Or just leave them to your descendants so they can have them for Y3K - they'll still be "good".

    12. Re:Nice, but nothing's going to happen by Haven · · Score: 2

      I worked for best buy on 9/9/99, and the main frames that the registers transmit all thier data to crashed. They couldn't ring up anything for the first half of the day. That was a lot of money lost.

  151. Food of Champions by wrgsta · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you guys, but I'll be stocking up on plenty of corned beef hash. You can live on that shit for months!

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    --Microsoft Promotional Ad

  152. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by re-geeked · · Score: 1

    The game was made by MECC (Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium), which is still in business making educational software (although may have been acquired?), including a CD called Oregon Trail, which I'm sure is a souped-up version.

    However, it would seem likely that they could instruct you in finding a port or binary.

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    "You can't get something for nothing." - my grandfather, on the stock market and Reaganomics.
  153. Soup man.... Soup! by OctobrX · · Score: 2

    I bought about 150bucks worth of soup, and since we have a woodburning stove, and live backed up to a Nat'l forest service land, we are good to go! Oh, and I got about 20bucks worth of different medicines... Noone ever thinks of that. You get sick, and yer outta there when all the doctors are nuked.

    Happy Y2Trae! ;)
    OctobrX

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    1. Re:Soup man.... Soup! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Foo on that. We've got a generator, many gallons of gas and a freezerful of 1/4 steer. No soup for us! Steak all the way!
      -russ

      --
      Don't piss off The Angry Economist
  154. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by palutke · · Score: 1

    If you have the right keyboard, it can be a good bashing weapon. The old IBM 'clickey' keyboards are sturdy enough to beat someone to death . . . and resume normal function once the electricity comes back!

    --
    'I ain't a liar, baby, and I ain't proud I just want what I'm not allowed.' -- Violent Femmes, 36-24-36
  155. Bingo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...but I still needed the Y2k excuse to make my wife let me buy a gun.

    (If I'm lucky, she'll find out what it's -really- for! :) )

  156. Re:I'm glad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh. I forgot. Ill have to take my supply of JonKatz books into the new millenium.

  157. My New Year will be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    spent working, as I am employed at the local power plant, I thought I'd have some fun and cut the power to the town off and on, spelling in morse code "Just Kidding".

    1. Re:My New Year will be... by Ateran · · Score: 1

      I'll be the first to call you in on punitive damages after you give my grandmother a heart attack. That is, if the courts are still working.

      ROFLMAO

    2. Re:My New Year will be... by Ateran · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, is there any danger with the power going out?

  158. It's just the Guilianni-Clinton debates by georgeha · · Score: 1

    They're expecting a bloodbath when Rudy asks Hillary who's better at satisfying Bill, her or Monica.

    George

  159. Re:Y2K slapped me in the face -- early! by technos · · Score: 1

    Master makes a series of 'notched' key locks, which are far harder to pick, pop, or rake open. I'm fairly adept; I can get any M1 open in under 30 seconds, any KW1, SC1, or M2 in under two minutes. I won't even touch them; Acetylene or cutting wheel only.

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  160. Re:nobody remembered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, yes... Sears catalogs. Oh, the nostalgia. Not as good as Caldor's, though...

    When I lived on the east coast, every sunday I'd run up to my mom, saying "Mom, guess what?!?! Caldor's has a sale!"

  161. Distilled water is a bad thing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You are not supposed to drink distilled water! It strips your body of minerals. You wont die or anything after a gallon, but its generally not a good idea. Distilled water is good for ironing, and uh various drug-related 'science experiments'. I sugguest you throw a big clod of mineral rich soil in your water now. Well maybe a small clod, need to get some iron in there.

    1. Re:Distilled water is a bad thing! by kiatoa · · Score: 1

      Baloney! Its a myth, you can get minerals from water but ya don't have to. Lots of people around the world drink rain water that (except for sulphur, nitrates and mercury compounds :) is essentially distilled. Just make sure you have a nice varied diet (ummmm... haven't eaten dog in over 15 years, poodle stew time). If you are worried about minerals take a multi-vitamin/mineral suplement. I have references for this somewhere and could dig 'em up if anyone cared.

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  162. 2 Poor Assumptions! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CmdrTaco, you made TWO poor assumptions. The first, as you stated, was buying all that microwaveable food. The Second one, that you missed, was assuming it would stay Frozen! - without electricity, you'd have to put it outside, and then it'll get stolen (or you'll have to stay outside and defend it with your pathetic shovel and freeze your butt off!).

  163. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by webslacker · · Score: 1

    It is if you're on the 20th floor of an office building.

  164. Re:My list by Xilope · · Score: 1

    Hamster food does taste pretty good... And it tends to freak out my sister in law.. which is another plus

  165. Here are my tips for surviving Y2k celebrations by Kris_J · · Score: 2
    I sent these around at the end of my last e-mail to all staff where I work...
    • Take a torch - preferably one of those soft lantern things.
    • Take a portable radio or TV - you want to know what's happening.
    • Don't go on the roads until dawn unless you absolutely have to.
    • Don't get blind drunk, you'll need your wits about you.
    These are for Australia, as we don't need to worry about the cold. Northern hemisphere residents should also concern themeselves with a sleeping bag, a rug and, if celebrating away from home, at least two nearby places to crash for the night (so at least one might have heat).
  166. Re:offtopic reminiscience of apple ][ by T-Ranger · · Score: 1

    Ya, but how the fuck do I unshrinkit?

  167. I will laugh at the unprepared!!!! by JM_the_Great · · Score: 1

    I've been growing 6 acers of potatoes over the last year....here's why:

    1) Excellent source of noutrition....a person can live for a year off 1/4 acer of potatoes a year.

    2) For said reason above I can sell them for an over inflated price...or for guns, ammo, beer, toilet paper, whatever I need.

    3) They can be used as ammo for spud guns. Laugh now, but wait until you see 1.5e+6 spuds attack your bunker.....

    4) The skins can be used for clothes.

    5) Electricity.....even if power does go out, my computers will still be running.

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    --Justin Mitchell
    "2nd Place is a fancy word for losing" --Bender (Futurama)
  168. Re:What!?! No duct tape!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget potatoes can be a spare source of alcohol as well :).

  169. Brewery Planned by JJ · · Score: 1


    Hemos seems to have swiped my idea of turning the remnants of his abode into a source for (life giving) whiskey. Actually, just yesterday I acquired the last bit of equipment I need to convert the burned out remnants of my home into the largest brewery on post-apocolyptic earth (or at least the Midwest.) And I've been preparing and improving my brewing skills for just this for several years. All of you with AK-47s, come on down to the Greater Chicago area, I'll be cranking up production soon and will have more than I can drink. Of course, nobody shoots the brewmesiter, unlike the piano player.

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    So long and thanks for all the fish . . . !!!
  170. Re:Baseball bats not as Good as Mag-Lites by Bombcar · · Score: 1

    I think you can combine the two - check out my 6 D cell mag-lite with modified endcap consiting of one 12 gauge shotgun shell. Doesn't hit anything at about 100 yards, but it will take down someone that the mag light can't. And then there's the 3 D cell converted to a 6 shot .357 revolver. And the other 6 D cell with a scope and .30-06 ammo.
    http://www.bombcar.com It's where it is at.

  171. Religious Candles by georgeha · · Score: 4

    I bought a bunch of Passover candles last spring, as they're certainly Y2K compliant (I just hope they're Y5.760K compliant!).

    I also bought an Air Zone Micro Rapid Fire EZ Squeeze 4 Shooter on sale, and am filing down the barrels to increase the missile speed (some of which barely clear the barrels). Any Y2K invaders better be ready to face a ruthless barrage of foam darts! And I have a bunch of snow shovels for hand to hand combat, as well as a non working 20 meg 5 1/4 inch hard drive to cudgel with.

    I still have to get 3 1/2 pounds of honey, 2 1/2 pounds of light malt, 1 pound of corn sugar, lager yeast and lots of Cascade hops, I want to get a batch of Papazian's famous Rocky Raccoon honey lager fermenting before the big day.

    In the event we have to evacuate, I bought a sled and affixed a rope to it a few days ago, so I can cross country ski away while pulling my daughter and computers.

    George

    1. Re:Religious Candles by technos · · Score: 2

      I also bought an Air Zone Micro Rapid Fire EZ Squeeze 4 Shooter on sale, and am filing down the barrels

      Two words: Bigger springs.

      If it's air powered, perhaps you should consider retro-fitting a Crossman CO2 pistol with the four barrel foam dart setup. A buddy of mine did it with some copper pipe fittings and Nerf darts. They hurt like hell!

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  172. In The Middle Of It... by trexl · · Score: 1
    It would appear that everybody is getting themselves ready to defend their home. I don't think that this is the way to go. I'll be preparing for the millenium by being amongst the people, and if they start to act up, I'll take care of them before they get to where I live. For any of you looking to gain an advantage with guns ... I will now take this opportunity to question your manhood. Eventually it's gonna come down to blunt force trauma. Kudos to the /. gang for choosing snow shovels, I for one will use my indominatble will ... I am the most powerful man in the universe.

    If nothing happens ... happy new year!

    1. Re:In The Middle Of It... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I am the most Powerfull Man in the Universe. I will not have you infringe upon my copyright!

      "Fall before my will!",--The Most Powerfull Man in the Universe!

  173. While you're out looting, who's watching your... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    network?

    Network Associates ads for the Apocalypse..

  174. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd have to argue that a handgun makes for much better crowd control though...

  175. don't buy water by Akeldama · · Score: 1

    why waste money on buying water, when you can take as much water as you want from tap, and just boil it? maybe not as mineral rich as tap, but it's clean. and besides, who needs minerals if you're gonna die anways?

  176. Worst Y2K Job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I talked to me mother last night and my step-dad is spending New Years Eve sitting a substation wit two State Troppers to put it back together if someone blow it up.

  177. Items you WON'T need for Y2K by Necroleptic · · Score: 1

    1. Confetti: Its not edible, and makes the apocalypse a messier affair. And when the water malitia comes around, do you want to look like a dork with aper in your hair?

    2. Condoms: These will PREVENT the propagation of the human race.

    3. A Stereo Blasting Party Music: Like you want to let the mutants from nuclear winter know where you are, as well as the other maniacs running aorund our post-apocalyptic world.

    4. Mistletoe: Its a poisonous plant! RUN! RUN! People who carry it around asking for "kisses" really want to murder you for your battery/water supply.

    By the way, I have pl,ans for next year and firmly believe nothing major is going to happen.

  178. Uses for computers after the apocalypse by hodeleri · · Score: 4
    • Monitors can be turned into handy solar ovens. Carefully remove the front glass plate, being careful not to destroy the rest of the glass inside. Line with tinfoil and place in front of the fire. Instant oven.
    • Cat5 can be used for tripwires to discourage those pesky looters, or in longer lengths to build a cable bridge across those deep mountain gorges.
    • Stacked computer cases can be used to create walls and barricades. By plugging the ventilation holes the dead air space can be put to good use as insulation. A few large office buildings should contain enough to build a comfortable dwelling.
    • Computer power cords can make excellent weapons by using the three-prong end as a mace or whip. Especially useful are power strips with a convenient handle and cord attached. Mice also fall into this category.
    • CDs can make mirrors, frisbee of death, or can be broken in half and used as a slashing tool. Whole they will also function as primitive shovels. Breakage will not be too big of a problem, especially with the vast stockpiles of AOL and other ISP CDs.
    • Floppy disks can be ripped apart and the inside cloth covering can be used for fire starting material. Making "disk bombs" will also effectively start fires. Save the tiny springs inside, you never know when they will be useful in bandit-discouraging traps.
    1. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by erinlee · · Score: 1
      • Computer cables can be used for a variety of purposes: durable shoelaces, snares for rabbits or would-be encroachers, simple tentmaking, and various other rope applications.
      • Obsolete docs make excellent firestarters, as does leftover dot-matrix paper (lots of people seem to still have that stuff kicking around, for some reason). The really thick manuals should make for long-lasting firelogs.
      • Inkjet cartridges should contain enough ink for several threatening anti-trespasser signs.
      • Power supplies could make for excellent booby traps, if set up to drop on intruders from sufficient height. They might also be used as "bolo" style weapons for hunting wild game.
    2. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by RickyRicardo · · Score: 1

      Try lining your compound with old circuit boards turned face down....no one will dare mess with you and your "Intel chipset valley of death" Also, though CD's make good projectiles for riot situations, lets not forget the natural aerodynamics of a 3.5 floppy. The probably go just as far, and are a lot more painful. I'm not too sure about Zip's, but they probably get the same hangtime.

    3. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by georgeha · · Score: 3
      • Keyboards make excellent Bracers of Defense. Strap one to each forearm and you can ward of blows all day long, with the spring-loaded keys cushioning each impact.
      • Old 5 1/4 inch hard drives are very effective mace heads. Nothing like 5 pounds of metal and casing to diable an attacker.
      • Old subnotebooks ( I'm thinking Compaq Aero's (the 486 kind) or my Thinkpad 500) make excellent articulating armor for your knees and elbows.


      George
    4. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by MWright · · Score: 1

      Printers and speakers would make nice projectiles, too




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    5. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2

      Some how I don't think my HP DeskWriter is all that areodynamic.

    6. Re:Uses for computers after the apocalypse by zi0n · · Score: 1
      Mouse - Could be gutted, DUCT taped(good for all things) and filled with sand or lead to be used as a swingable mace type weapon.

      CD Drive - Open and use as a cup holder..

      Zip drive disks - Take disk out of casing, DUCT tape Razor blades onto the surface, make 2 new holes, insert rope through both, tie rope and use as a spinning weapon.

      PIII (Gateway) Heatsync - Use pronged ends to tenderize meat.

      Keyboard - Beat the hell out of someones head with it! After one good use, it will be no good for defense so use keys as missing scrabble peices!!

      Have a safe end of the world!!!

  179. Surviving Y2K by yab · · Score: 1

    Since I know my box are going to be up but I can't trust my ISP I've prepared myself as every man should. I've downloaded as much old text adventures as I could find and checked the batterys in my mag-lite *(Don't wanna get eaten by that grue). When it comes to food I'm sure there will be plenty in those old coffee mugs on my desk, if it's edible is another question and if any looters decided to pop in I'll just turn off the light and we'll see who the grue eats first

    --nuqDaq yuch Dapol--

  180. Stick to reading. I can count too! by Skip666Kent · · Score: 2

    1st Millenium: 0-999
    2nd Millenium: 1000-1999
    3rd Millenium: 2000-2999

    In any base 10 numerical system, you have to account for zero. Are you trying to tell us that the ten digits of the decimal system are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10? Are calendar systems exempt from the basic rules of math? Exactly what planet are you from?

    11 eggs do not make a dozen

    Thanks for the tip! And remember - an empty carton contains zero eggs. (That's not a dozen either, in case you're wondering ;)

    there was no year zero

    Sure there was. It was the one before the year 1. Some call it '1 BC', but what's a little relativity among friends?

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    1. Re:Stick to reading. I can count too! by TaxSlave · · Score: 1

      1st Millenium: 0-999

      *snip*

      Completely wrong. There really was no year 0, therefore the FIRST year was numbered 1, and the 1000th year is 1000.

      In any base 10 numerical system, you have to account for zero. Are you trying to tell us that the ten digits of the decimal system are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10? Are calendar systems exempt from the basic rules of math? Exactly what planet are you from?

      Once upon a time, mankind had yet to discover the concept of zero. That's why the Roman Numeral System contains no character for 0. Since the calendar's numbering system was designed using roman numerals, ther was no year 0.

      I'm from this planet. Once upon a time, people on this planet didn't know as much as they do today. If they had known as much as they do today, we probably would have a calendar similar to the one spoken of by Isaac Asimov in "The Problem of the Moon."

      When controvery exists, it is usually best to go to the facts, not listen to Dan Rather.

    2. Re:Stick to reading. I can count too! by TaxSlave · · Score: 1

      Sorry. Italics for quotes, but I forgot to close, and clicked submit instead of preview. I might be a moron at times when it comes to writing clean html, but I do know basic calendar science.

  181. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I too live in Southern Mighigan, but have many relatives that live in the Northern LP (Lower Pennisula for you out-of-staters). All I know is if the shit hits the wall, I'm headin' up north. You see two Uncle in particular have the following "good" traits in common: A: Both are avid hunters B: Both are Federally Licensed Gun collectors and have a nice stockpile of arms and ammo. C: Both are Vietnam Vets and I'm quite confident they can hold their own if need be. Boy I'm glad I touched base with them at the Family X-Mas party a couple of weeks ago.....

  182. Re:Planning ahead by JacobO · · Score: 1

    Well, being in New Zealand as I type, I can assure you that your average new year involves a large amount of societal collapse anyway. If it didn't it would be a fairly embarrasing new year. Woohoo... we will be first nation to have televised mass-destruction!

  183. Y2k Update by pulski · · Score: 1

    Nothing like last minute planning. I just finished updating my company today and we are closed tomorrow. Chalk one up to good old procrastination.

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    1. Re:Y2k Update by jued0001 · · Score: 1
      I still have two people who have not gotten back to me about their systems, and this is the last day I'll be doing any work (Unreal Tournament doesn't count =]). Oh well, I guess they don't want to work after Dec 31st. =P

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  184. Nature's...food. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Well, he's got that time to bone up on his deer hunting. Now these critters that eat my roses will PAY, dammit! And be quite tasty, too.

    (No, I'm not redneck enough to go hunting for sport. If I was, I'd probably hunt lawyers.)

  185. Not prepared at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I haven't stocked up on food, weapons and/or pornographic materials. I figure if SOMEONE out there isn't poorly armed, then all you raving nutballs bristling with shotguns and rifles wouldn't have anyone to loot.

    And I wouldn't want all ya'll feeling bad.

  186. hmmm, I'd would have to see it to believe it. by zi0n · · Score: 1
    First lets look at the SIZE cal. of the weapon at hand. A 9mm is NOT a man/animal stopper and will do little damage to an animal of such size. It goes in the size of a pencil and might only create a exit wound 1-2 inch dia. if using JHP ammo (Hydroshock ammo is good). I personally own a 9mm Ruger and I would not risk the chance at using up ammo and wounding an animal that might not even die from the wound inflicted by using the wrong weapon. 50 yards is no problem if u are using a weapon designed for loger range shoots(357, 44, 45mag), but even a high quality 9mm (like a glock, sig, er a ol browning) would take a skilled marksman to place a shot given the situation.

    ps - Yes deer have big, thick boned shoulders that can and have reflected arrows shot at 70 lbs fitted with 145 grain Muzzy broadheads at 40 yards. So to think that a 9mm will even create a wound that would ensure a 2nd shot would be wishful thinking.

    1. Re:hmmm, I'd would have to see it to believe it. by Doco · · Score: 1

      Amen Russ!

      A 9mm shouldn't have much problem bringing down a deer. You say no - then why did the 8mm I used last year worked just fine killing 2 deer each at about 150 yards. That was with open sights, and I don't want to admit how many shots I missed with. This year with the scope I was at much higher accuracy.

      The size of the lead coming out of the barrel doesn't mean as much as the weight of the lead, and the speed it travels at. Remember physics (which is always y2k compliant) and E = m * v * v
      Engergy = Mass * Velocity squared.
      The amount of energy that is transfered to the animal (or man) is more telling of it's stopping power. If you catch a rib or the sholder of the animal, much (most) of the engergy goes into that animal and is usually translated into tearing up of the inards. So, a fast moving bullet is a good thing.

      The size of the round does affect the amount of air resistance and therefore how quickly the bullet loses energy, so it is nice to have smaller caliber rounds for long range (200+ yards) shooting. Heck - a shotgun with slugs isn't that bad to 75 or 100 yards.

  187. Y2k In PA! by RISCy+Business · · Score: 2

    Well, I don't know about you folks, but I'm pretty much ready for Y2k. I did my shopping last week. What'd I buy?

    * 1,500 rounds of .22 hollowpoint ammunition
    * 250 shells for 18ga shotgun
    * 250 shells for 12ga shotgun
    * Equipment for cleaning rifle scopes
    * Gun cleaning equipment
    * 30 cans of tunafish
    * 10 jars of peanut butter
    * 10 jars of jelly
    * 6 loaves of bread
    * plenty of bread making supplies
    * 240 12oz. cans of pop
    * 2 tons of bituminous coal for the coal heater

    So let's justify it!

    .22 Ammunition - Hunting for poli, er, uh, food.
    18ga Ammo - Hunting for mili, er, ah, food.
    12ga Ammo - Hunting for riot, er, um, food.
    Scope Cleaning - Hunting for.. er.. nevermind :)
    Gun Cleaning - You know what.
    Tunafish - Gotta eat!
    PB & J - Gotta eat!
    Bread - Gotta eat the rest on something! ;)
    Bread making - Well, if we run out of sliced... ;)
    Pop - We're very very thirsty. *grin*
    Coal - Well, er, we usually buy that much coal.. just not that often. ;)

    So, who wants to go riot, er, hunting for.. supplies and.. uh.. food with me? }:)

    =RISCy Business

  188. Ye Gods! They're all Alkies! by Uruk · · Score: 2

    Gin? Vermouth? Whiskey? Beer? I didn't hear "everclear" did I?

    Sounds like my plan - the world may be going to end, and you may end up with hideously fatal wounds that will chew you apart from the nuclear fallout, but they won't even care because they'll be so sauced up they probably won't even look up from whatever game they're playing at the time.

    Reminds me of a quote from a RedMeat comic strip -

    "You know Karen, I've been troubled lately by the possibility that a giant meteor could come hurtling out of the sky at any moment. The initial cataclysmic impact would kill millions instantly. The ensuing cloud of dust, smoke, and steam would destroy all remaining life over the next few months. During that time, the survivors would play out their remaining days in a grisly carnival of cannibalism and unimaginable agony"

    Be that as it may, I'm sure I'm not going to be the only one that will probably be somewhat impaired on new years eve.

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    -- Truth goes out the door when rumor comes innuendo. -- Groucho Marx
    1. Re:Ye Gods! They're all Alkies! by Cybervoid · · Score: 1

      Gin? Vermouth? Whiskey? Beer? I didn't hear "everclear" did I?

      Sorry, Rob, and friends all live in Michigan, and you can't legally buy Everclear here. And since they all live in Holland it's not an easy trip to Wisconson to buy any, up in the U.P., they do that all the time.

  189. Planning ahead by DanaL · · Score: 4

    Lucky for me, I (like many /. readers, I suspect) live in a time zone that provides plenty of time to prepare.

    I get up for work every morning at almost exactly midnight, Aukland time, so if New Zealand society collapses, I plan to skip work and go back to bed for a few hours, so that I am well rested for all the rioting and looting. I'm not generally inclined to riot and loot, but as has been mentioned before, Winnipeg is awfully cold in the Winter so we will have to riot and burn things to keep warm. (I am again fortunate, because I have almost 5 years of accumulated University notes to use for fuel)

    As for food, I'm a vegetarian, so I have to be a little more picky in my food choices (I can't eat my neighbours, at least not many of them). I'm hoping that the canned peas and carrots will be left for last at the grocery store.

    Dana

    1. Re:Planning ahead by zuvembi · · Score: 1

      As for food, I'm a vegetarian, so I have to be a little more picky in my food choices (I can't eat my neighbours, at least not many of them). I'm
      hoping that the canned peas and carrots will be left for last at the grocery store.


      Are you going under the theory that it's okay for you to eat vegetarian's, because hey after all their certainly vegetarian!

    2. Re:Planning ahead by DanaL · · Score: 2

      Nah, but some of my neighbours are dumb enough that I call them the Cabbage People.

      Also, I am reassured because I have just talked to several friends who say they wouldn't eat tofu-based products, even if the world is ending, so I'll have my pick of the Tofurkeys at the supermarket...

      Dana

  190. Wood and Porn (Re:Y2K Survival) by Punto · · Score: 1
    I've been playing Age Of Empires 2 lately, and I noticed that the base of the economy was not "weapons", but wood. Sure, with more weapons you win the game, but the way to buy weapons was:

    1) get wood
    2) build farms
    3) sell food on the market
    4) buy weapons (and other resources) with the gold

    It's not apocalipse, but it was a pretty rough era..

    By the way, what about porn?? Sure, the net is full with porn, we have porn on the tip of our fingers, but what if the net colapses? How many GBs of porn is enough.
    I say a diesel generator plugged to a machine with a 13GB HD, with the date set to 1/1/1970. That'll get me 30 years..

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  191. Batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a feeling the simple and often underestimated battery will become a valuable commodity... and i'm prepared to kill for my Duracells :)

    1. Re:Batteries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got an entire box full of 'em (120 batteries to be exact)
      And I'm keeping them all to myself! hahaha!!

      Mikael Jacobson

  192. Re:The Golden Bee by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    It only takes a couple of minutes to paint "death to the infidel!" on it. Who knows, you might even hit me. :-)

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  193. Getaway from Y2K by erinlee · · Score: 1

    I've got to mention how my brother Enki is spending the Y2K clickover: he and his friends have planned for a year to have a camp-out in the woods. They should currently be setting up their campsite at an undisclosed location in the Canadian wilderness, complete with propane heating, hot tub, shower and full kitchen facilities. They're even planning on taping a radio show, What The Hell, to netcast from the site. (Sorry, couldn't resist giving them a plug. Besides, their Y2K provisions list, which is certinly competitive with the best I've seen here, is linked under "events" or the Y2K banner there.)

    I, meanwhile, am likely going to be partying with Dick Clark with my sweetie, possibly heading out for hometown celebrations which include a mass wedding (yeesh) and fireworks if the weather is OK. I was going to head out for provisions tomorrow morning, but only for party snackage and a box of "Millennium" crackers. It only recently occurred to me that, Y2K bug or no, I'm likely in the more hazardous situation: a basement in my bf's over-dense subdivision full of disgruntled gangsta-wannabe teenage boys. Likely sitting directly beneath a plate glass window of kickable height, defending a hoard of pizza, drinks and Playstation games.

    Then again, I live in a rural enough area that we have our own well for water (no municipal service) and have a generator. Frankly, we're set. Now I just have to wait for Tuesday to see if the guys' Getaway from Y2K turns into something resembing the Blair Witch Project. I guess I can attempt to tune in to the station this Sunday to hear them muttering: "Fsck, it's cold." "Yeah, but we got an excellent view of the riot fires."

  194. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll take you on. I get my Aluminium bat, you get your sword. I real life bats are far easier to wield. If you are not holding the blade correctly or twist, or bends as do most "stainless steel" katana's your screwed. Unless of course you've been traing in KIA for 10 years. which there are very few people that have done that in the states at least. As a matter of fact I can count all those people on my fingers. Which I am one of BTW.

  195. Master of the Great Lakes by brazil · · Score: 1

    I thought I was the only one plotting for control of Michigan at midnight!

    Oh well, I'll just get trampled at the Metallica concert at the Silverdome instead!

    Nothing like floor seats at a football field!

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    Dan.
  196. Yup... :o) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I too, am responsible for a large (?? 10000+ user) network..

    But I'll be spending the evening with my wife..

    I have faith in my network. I know it will hold.

    Even though many /.'ers won't admit it, Technology is our religion. We must have faith in these dark times.

    I have Faith. The Technology will hold.

    "And as the skies did darken,
    the Chosen Few did ascend to thier holy NOC's,
    to wait for the Coming of the Apocalypse,
    which was foretold by the Pundits."

    "Waiting silently in their holy NOC's,
    the Apolalypse did not come, and the
    Chosen Few did return Tuesday to their desk jobs,
    As the users did cast the Pundits, and PHB's,
    and Windows NT Sysadmins back into eternal
    DOSness from whence they came, saying "we've
    had enough of your crap!",
    And there was great rejoicing."

  197. Re:What!?! No duct tape!?! by drox · · Score: 1

    I'm horrified to see that none of you included duct tape on your list of things to have for Y2K (especially so soon after the Slashdot 10 Ten Hacks story).

    Maybe that's because they already have a couple pallet-loads of duct tape lying around the compound. That way there's no need to buy more at the last minute.

  198. nobody remembered by mrzaph0d · · Score: 2

    toilet paper...

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    1. Re:nobody remembered by Lally+Singh · · Score: 1
      Visual C++ Documentation works well...

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    2. Re:nobody remembered by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

      Some of us DID remember toilet paper.

      But then, I always buy a big carton of it at the local warehouse club, and as last payday we were at the "time to buy another 144-roll carton of T.P." line, I've got T.P. for the millenium.

      Will trade rolls of T.P. for ammo, food, or slaves. . .

    3. Re:nobody remembered by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      That's an anglo necessity. Much of the world does fine without it. Just be prepared to stop doing anything else with your left hand. :)
      -russ

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    4. Re:nobody remembered by anatoli · · Score: 1

      Good you reminded me. I need to buy some diapers...hopefully they still have them in stores...local public is paranoid...
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  199. Hmmmmm by cyberassasin · · Score: 1

    Slow day at the office, errr compound, Huh?


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  200. Y2k list by The+Maverick · · Score: 1

    I really like Hemos' idea of getting whiskey. Thats actually the only thing I've got to get me through Y2k and any potential problems. Good ole' Crown Royal (best rye money can buy.)

  201. you are missing something very important by Alton · · Score: 0

    You are all going to really regret having bought all that food and alchohol when you realize you forgot the toilet paper. You'll need those shovels to fight over that last square...


    BTW, Hemos, I believe drinking distilled water is actually bad for you. Since it doesn't have the standard salts and minerals present in drinking water, it actually removes salts and minerals from your body as it passes through, and leaves you even worse off. Distilled water is for use in clothing irons and household use.

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  202. Never understimate the power of soup by GreggBert · · Score: 1

    I am the proud owner of three cases of Campbells Chicken, Brocoli, Cheese and Pototo Soup. I look forward to cracking open a can, pouring myself a shot of Bushmills and watching the mushroom clouds in all their splendor.

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    If you don't understand anything I post, please accept that I ate paste as a small boy...
  203. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there is no electricity, then water cannot be pumped. This also includes sewage... and I live at the top of a hill.

  204. Re: What about a ten foot pole? Etc. by Driph · · Score: 1

    No trusty adventurer should leave his/her home without one.

    As I was convinced by my girlfriend to travel to Austin for New Years away from my native Las Vegas, any y2k planning I've done has gone to moot(well, aside from "Get the hell out of Vegas.")

    Now my main dilemma is whether we'll jump into the masses for A2k or find a lil club or house party somewhere off the drag to celebrate...
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  205. Yo, Hemos, watch out! by michajoe · · Score: 1

    about those

    >> 6 Gallons Distilled Water.

    You definitely do NOT want to drink distilled water. Well, maybe a glass if youre really thirsty - but definitely not 6 gallons. This stuff can kill you. DEAD. And if the rest of the world survives, that would be kinda ... well not so cool. Think about that :-)

  206. ..I was going to kill with my batteries... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Hurling spent car batteries off the roof is a great way to discourage looters...and gives me the opportunity to chant "Molten lead..molten lead.." Well, assuming I've melted them...but anyway..the image of lead plates & acid spraying everywhere is worth it. Bludgeoning a few monkeys down there is just a bonus.

    Why is this the first thing that came to mind?

    I'm ready to party..

  207. Re:Oh no! by zi0n · · Score: 1
    we were talking more about Hunting with handguns... I just listed a couple of weapons fer fun. I would agree that a shotgun is a better choice all around for the new-average user. I takes less skill to use buck, pheasent or steel shot to detour multiple enemies. In a confrontation with multiple oncoming attackers the pistol would not be as effective unless every shot were placed correctly. The scatter weapons (including homemade explos. and mines) are much more efficent BANGS fer ur BUCK. Automatics would be nice, but we are talking real life situations so...

    Now lets say we were in an urban envior., the pistol and shotgun would be a choice for short range building and street fighting. Now lets take the fight into the open fields and woods, the rifle (fer distance and power) would rule the day. I have heard that a man trained in high levels of Martial Arts can be a lethal opponent. But put him in a (non hand to hand) firefight and his fighting skills would be useless.

  208. Re:Silly Silly Slasheads by Cybervoid · · Score: 1

    That was pretty fun on the way to work this morning, the black ice I mean. I like the fact that I could slide around the corners instead of the boring old, slow down, look both ways, then go meathod we are all used to. It also helps when there is no one around too I guess.

  209. You know you're on Slashdot when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...you get 4 detailed responses regarding model rockets, and 0 about the range of a 30-06.

    May the Reigning Beast-King of the Apocalypse have mercy on your souls.

  210. I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine and I are going to take our planes up and be airborn over Chicago at midnight, simply to mock all the Y2K-panic stricken people afraid to fly. Of course, both our planes have gyroscope-driven instrumentation and radios from the 1970's, none of which have ever cared about the date. A 777 with a glass cockpit might be a little more exposed to potential Y2K issues...

    Still, it will be fun to thumb our noses at Y2K, and who knows -- if the airports are as quiet as everyone is predicting, maybe O'Hare will finally let us into their airspace and do some low passes over that huge runway! Plus, if all the lights in the city go out all at once, what better place to watch that than from 1500 feet overhead? :-)

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    1. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by Lally+Singh · · Score: 1
      Duck And Cover!

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      Tell him the next version of Windows will be faster, more reliable, and easier to use!

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    2. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by staplin · · Score: 2

      Provided you aren't smacked with a jet liner that has lost all instrumentation and is falling out of the sky in your general vicinity.

      Despite the Y2K panic, I bet you'll have a few airborne traffic hazards to avoid. ;-)

    3. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm... how will you land if there are no landing
      lights?

    4. Re:I will mock the Y2K madness from 2000 feet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... With a thud.

  211. my plans by nerdling · · Score: 0

    Gonna have a nerdbash at my friends house, we have pretty much every fun dreamcast game: NFL2k, Vigilante 8 (its good, like carmageddon), soul calibur, marvel vs capcom, and whatever the other people have. Were gonna have a q3a tourney, but only one thing. The electricity better stay on and the roving bands of looters better stay the hell away or we'll chuck ass pennies at you. My mom wents nuts in the kitchen, she made this giant 1.5 ft diameter cake, all chocolate, and we're ordering like 4 extra large lou malnati's deep dish pizzas. Wilmette parties kick arse more than you can believe. Drugs an Alki-hol are a plenty, everyones invited, but you have to bring a shotgun and a power generator, and an extra dreamcast controller.

    "Im sitting in the motherf*cking basement with a shotgun and a bottle of holy water, and Im motherf*cking serious." my sister on y2k :)

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  212. Re:My List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    >(You may not be getting any /. geeks.. but some of us are)

    Hahaha. You're right I won't be getting any geeks. Girls however is another thing. Hope you like "getting /. geeks" I've heard they're great...

  213. End of the world stuff... by MoodyLoner · · Score: 3

    Okay, bought two weeks of food and water and juice and etc. Went by the local cheap department store sporting goods racks looking at the shotguns.

    Mmmmm. Shotguns.

    Area effect to make up for lack of gun skills (at least compared to everybody else that plays ^%$*$# Unreal Tournament Deathmatch. @^##@^&$$!!!)

    But, alas, it was not to be. My lovely wife reminded me that paranoid, short-tempered people shouldn't be allowed access to firearms. Can't imagine how paranoia and short temper came up, unless it was that little "And when I'm finished blowing the heads off the aliens that are using Y2K to take over, I can put them on Tiki Torches in our front yard!!" comment.

    That was my mistake. She hates Tiki Torches.

    So, all I have to face the New Year is a razor-sharp Highlander katana replica. There can be only one, and with all the firearms out there, it probably won't be me...

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    Alexandria Morrigan born 2/22/01 l. 20.5in wt. 7 lbs. 5 oz.
    1. Re:End of the world stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (If you knew my nick, you could track me down and loot my bunker ... that and I'm not at work, and don't feel like dialing in to get an emailed password ;-)

      I ALMOST bought a crossbow to keep on hand, but ended up being too lazy. But you've gotta admit, if someone comes at you with a crossbow, you'll atleast look twice... So due to my procrastination, all I have is my flashlight. A simple, 6d mag. You people with baseball bats, don't come near me... you people with guns, please, feel free to join me for dinner. ;-)

      Seriously, I live in earthquake country. I've got a little food, and I've got a little water, and I don't expect to need either.

  214. No, nobody saw The Postman. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't you people see The Postman?

    No. Nobody did. Those 2500 or so people who were spotted buying tickets were Costner's immediate family, and they were all payed by him so that he didn't end up lookin like a complete ass. (And they all snuck out after the opening credits.)

    You have to wonder how he pitched this show to the Studio execs... "OK, nobody wanted to see me in a post-apocalyptic ocean wasteland, but how about if we used the same script, and make it a post-apocalyptic midwestern wasteland?"

    I mean c'mon, Waterworld was bad enough, but (as my mother put it) it was just "Max Max, watered down."

  215. web sites for watching y2k around the world ?? by faithhopeandcharity · · Score: 1

    Does anyone have a list of good websites or chat places were we can get an update on what is happening in other time zones (without having to listen to all that stupid tv chatter)

  216. agreed. by zi0n · · Score: 1
    357 is a proven weapon in the field exspecially if u load ur own ammo. I used a .44 mag w/ scope and holster fer 2 seasons and when tuned and practiced with, was effective well past 50 yds. I dont have great nerves for shooting handguns and would take a rifle anyday over a handgun, but the handgun is much more fun ;) As for my 9mm, it lays a scattered pattern that I wound never trust past 35 yards. The P-90's werent made for hunting, but rather home defense.

    *legal* Disaster weapons of choice - 1)12 gauge ITHICA, coated flat black, 9 round mag. and polymer stock with all the nifty little addons 2) MAK-90, wood grips and thumb stock fitted with a 4x20 scope and and extra milled upper reciever(none of that side mount shit!),flash hider/muzzle lift kit and MEGA bananna clips w/ russian JHP.

  217. My Y2K shopping list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One (1) bag of hamster food
    One (1) toilet paper tube
    One (1) pack of matches, eddylights
    One (1) Hamster

    If anyone tries to break in, I'll have the *pleasure* of shooting them with a rodent. If no-one breaks in, then I will simply have the *pleasure*.

    I think I'll name the Hamster Raggot.

    Jailbrekr (god@kendryl.bc.ca)

  218. How come nobody remebered to stock up on towels? by jfunk · · Score: 2

    At least I'm going to know where my towel is. Christmas lights may also come in handy in case I have to strangle a few "trespassers."

    "Now you get off my propr'ty, y'hear ."

    Of course, I'll probably be very drunk when the clock does go around. I'll also be waiting at the main breaker box for whatever building I'm in for the crowd to yell "happy new year!"

    Imagined sounds: "vvvvvrrrrrrr-r-r--r--r", "AGGGGGGGH, it was all true! The four horsemen are coming!"

    Ah the pains I go through to amuse myself.

  219. Haha by Mandrias · · Score: 1

    Dr. Strangelove rules!


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  220. Don't prepare--just loot by WolfShades · · Score: 1

    I'm not worried about food and stuff come midnight tomorrow. I simply plan on looting the grocery stores. I live in one of those areas where, if abject terror starts, everyone will start looting the electronics stores for expensive merchandise. While they're all doing that, I'll just load up my Firebird with all the food it can hold and take off before anyone realizes the electronic equipment they just stole is useless 'cause there's no electricity. Of course, I'm sure someone else has thought of this, so I'll bring my gun along to erase any competition....

  221. Party Like it is 1499 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We decided the best thing to do is participate in the party at the local castle. If worse comes to worse, they have hundreds of gallons of ale and wine, 12 ft walls, bagpipers, and none thinks twice about you carrying swords. And even if it doesn't who could argue with a night spent with hundreds of women in bodices and corsets....

    1. Re:Party Like it is 1499 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got room for one more! ;)

  222. Re:Gun toting 2000. by in8 · · Score: 1

    hmmmm - I guess you've never been through the LA riots of '92 have ya? You've gotta learn from the past that the authorities can and will at times NOT HELP you at ALL.

  223. Rip it apart!! by zi0n · · Score: 1
    Well a screw driver and a pair of needle nose plyers are good tools to use for this.

    OPEN doesnt refer to "Push button".

  224. my compliments to CowboyNeal and Hemos by bubbasatan · · Score: 0

    My choice of spiritous beverage for this New Year's eve is also Bushmill Irish Whiskey. I am quite fond of it, and have found it to be one of the smoothest whiskeys I have consumed. Naturally, the smoothness of the whiskey will be very important as the world collapses about our ears. Secondly, Bass is one of my favorites, ranking approximately the same as Guinness and Caffrey's on my beer list (in other words, tied for #1). I am pleased that there are other people in the world who feel that it is important to go out in style. As for *millenium* plans, I intend to be on the web seeing what havoc is wreaked by the Y2K failures . Perhaps my Bushmill will keep me happy enough to not notice the world choking on its last polluted breaths. Hey, if not, at least I'll see the world through blurred vision at the last.

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  225. All I need is duct tape by Paolo · · Score: 1

    I've already bought thirty 200 ft spools. Duct tape is good for creating makeshift shelter, clothing, skiis, food, containers, computers, restraints, shovels, napkins, kleenex, fuel...

    I'll be safe no matter what happens! ;)
    PS-Duct tape has no date rollovers or timed demos. Major plus.

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  226. The Best plan! by Jack-o-Lantern · · Score: 1

    I plan to wait until sunday for the After Y2K sales. I figure like for Christmas and Thanksgiving, the prices on water, ammunition, cases of beer will go rock bottom. And I can be prepared in an economically fashion for the next millenium. (I already found the perfect Cristmas gift for my niece!)

    Jack-o-Lantern

  227. Silly Silly Slasheads by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Now I know why all my snow is gone!!! you guys bought snow shovels and today... there isnt a speck in Grand-Rapids to speak of... (Lots of fun black ice though!.. .weeeee no stopping for intersections anymore!!!)

    Have you guys ever considered advertising on cable tv??? gimmie a call.

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  228. hehehe by zi0n · · Score: 1
    Thinking ahead is good!! I have family in the boonies myself and I will leave my house in the city in a moment to head out to the country. Much easier to defend a home outside of an urban setting. If ur uncles were grunts in the war, then I would agree u will be safe there ;) Those boys had to be tough as nails to stay alive in that fucking hell.

    zI

  229. No KODT fans here, I guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the references went over people's heads. My question: Where are you going to find a Hackmaster +12? MoodyLoner (from behind the firewall)

  230. More uses for Cat5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A guy at the office told me about how at a previous workplace there was a guy who borrowed cat5 every weekend, and brought it back all tangled up. Turned out he was using it for bondage... Might provide something interesting to do when the power goes out and you've got all this home network crap lying around doing nothing...

    1. Re:More uses for Cat5 by GFD · · Score: 2

      Sombody moderate this one up, funny! :o

  231. Jasa's Y2K List by Jasa · · Score: 1
    A propane powered BBQ (Also useful as a flame thrower)

    A 1lt bottle of Jonny Walker Scotch (Also useful for making fire bombs)

    A large Maglite tourch (Also useful as a club)

    Vast quantities Toliet Paper (Sh.. Happens)

    Batteries (Various uses)

    Two 1.5 litter bottles of Mineral water and a large can of baked beans (Enought to survive on until more can be fought for)

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  232. TacoMan!!! by LisaCat · · Score: 1

    Happy New Year! Thanks for a curiously informative year of info. You Linux guys sure know how to make a girl swoon!
    Hugs, Lisa
    ps. Hamster Havoc rules.

  233. .308 holes.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...make invisible souls. So sayeth the t-shirt.

  234. No Toliet Paper?? by fr0g · · Score: 0

    you eeeeeediot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you ass will still need wiping.

  235. I want Jon Katz for Y2K by A4Joy · · Score: 1

    Why? Because he'll be able to regale me with movie reviews and entertaining features about school shooting and the media's perception of the shooters?

    Fuck, no. So I can eat him when there's no food left!

  236. Cufflink bomb! by technos · · Score: 1

    Items needed for cufflink-based bomb timer:

    1 Empty windshield washer solvent bottle
    4 feet lamp-cord
    1 styrofoam block, approx. 6x6.
    1 pair cufflinks
    1 knife
    1 roll duct tape
    4 C batteries, stolen from battery-powered radio
    some water

    Assembly directions left to your imagination..

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  237. Learning from Y2K by Da+Penguin · · Score: 1
    Well, Y2K (for the ignorant this is Year 2000) is almost upon us. It has been a problem for many and we should learn from it. By this I mean the not-so-notorious Y10K problem, the now four digit years will not work in the year 10000.

    You may think that it is much to early to think about it. It is impossible that 20th century programs would be used in the year 10000, right? Just like programs from the 70's would not be used in the year 2000...

    Now do you see what I mean? We have to learn from our bidigit mistakes and make sure that 8000 years from now it will not happen again.

    1. Re:Learning from Y2K by Microlith · · Score: 1

      learn to count...

      1970-2000 = 30 years

      2000-10000 = 8000 years

      Numerous things will drive software much farther along in that time frame.

    2. Re:Learning from Y2K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about really learning from Y2K and fixing the damn 2036 problem with unix?

  238. Re:Some thoughts... by Mindwarp · · Score: 1

    Hehe - the Wombles comment really tickled my fancy (ooerrr missus!)

    For those of you who live outside the U.K., some information on exactly what the Wombles are can be found here.

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  239. Bargain, bargain, bargain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First off, that Lasagna probably isn't going to taste very good after a week without power...

    I'd stock up on more alcohol, it's probably the best bargaining chip out there if anything actually does happen... hey, I'll trade you a shot of Vodka for that grenade launcher... or how about a can of beer for that gas generator...

    And best of all - if all else fails, you can still get drunk off your ass.

  240. the real reason why you WILL need them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Confetti:great to use to start fires!

    Condoms: Emergency water storage! you say yuck now..

    A stereo Blasting Party Music:so I know where your at!

    Mistletoe: How else am i going to get someone close enough to murder them for the battery/water?

  241. Y2K slapped me in the face -- early! by Markonen · · Score: 3

    This morning I woke up to the rancid smell of perishing perishables. Little inspection proved the hypothesis -- my refridgerator had decided it was best to store my food at room temperature. This was curious, but I *really* started to get irritated when my microwave didn't work either. At this point my primary suspect was an unpaid electricity bill, but the fully-functioning TV, Hi-Fi set and general lighting made that unlikely.

    I spent most of the morning trashing my food and wondering what was going on.

    Moral of the story: the fuse box is a great starting point in any Y2K -related practical jokes you are planning.

    1. Re:Y2K slapped me in the face -- early! by EricWright · · Score: 2

      A similar thing happened to me at work this morning. The room I'm in has cubicles around the perimeter, and a few in the center of the room. At once, all of the computers around the perimeter shut off. The one's in the center of the room, the lights, and most everything else was unaffected. Someone managed to trip the circuit breaker with a portable space heater!!

      Eric

    2. Re:Y2K slapped me in the face -- early! by ceo · · Score: 1

      If I was hosting a New Year's Eve party this year, the first thing I'd do would be to put a big padlock on my apartment's breaker panel with a note reading "Very funny, buster."

      Problem is, many of my friends are serious lock geeks.

    3. Re:Y2K slapped me in the face -- early! by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      I came into work this morning to find that the power supply on the file server had decided to kill itself last night. It was already scheduled to be replaced on Tuesday by a rack server with redundant power supplies. Even computers can say "You can't fire me, I QUIT."


      -B

  242. Re:Some thoughts... by MarchHare · · Score: 1

    Distilled water is NOT good. What you need is
    natural/mineral water. Unless you have a source
    of minerals (calcium/sodium/etc) that you can
    add to it, drinking distilled water will take
    away these same minerals from your body. Buy
    bottled water instead.

  243. My plans - or lack thereof by Levine · · Score: 1

    I haven't stocked up any more than usual. I figure if the time comes, I'll have much more fun making personal attack helicopters and fully automatic gunpods out of standard household items. Already on the planning board: a gun that launches breakfast cereals at Mach 1.

    Levine

  244. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by evilphish · · Score: 1

    actualy looking at the pattern of blood brain matter and bits of skull after a 12 gauge slug tears threw somebody's skull at point blank range on a wall is alot cooler. that and a bullet threw the head will cause alot more bleeding then a cracked skull. mmmmmmm death
    Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the war room..

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    who sez death can't be funny....www.endlesssorrow.com
  245. As long as gravity still goes, so will your water. by Mr_Plow · · Score: 2

    In California, we keep bottled water handy in case of an earthquake, by which a severed water main can either a.) cut off your water supply or b.) contaminate your water supply. But why is everyone going apeshit over hoarding water for Y2K? Is an old Win 3.1-based 486 controlling your city's water supply? I'm not an expert in municipal water or anything, but I would tend to assume that the natural-laws-of-physics-driven flow of water would continue regardless of what year it is. If you're worried about the second-coming, then you should at least be looking forward to the free wine that will be coming out of your tap!
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  246. My teeth and ambitions are bared... by Jeremy+Lee · · Score: 1

    ...Be prepared!

    In the Magic Bag I have two lightsticks, a first aid kit, solar-powered radio, portable saw, GPS, palmpilot, mobile phone, condoms, survey maps of the city and surrounding national parks, compass, torch, swiss army knife, signalling mirror, various tools, a space blanket, and a towel. But they don't count because I always carry those around with me anyway[1].

    For Y2K, I'm adding a bottle of Butterscotch Schnapps, a tub of chocolate mud-cake ice cream, my entire collection of water-weaponry[2], a change of clothes, and a trenchcoat. I plan to keep my SuperSoaker XP70 loaded and nearby at all times, because you never know what kind of weirdoes are out this time of year. My only fear is that I may be outgunned by nerf.

    [1] Yeah, so I'm a gizmo klepto. They pack nicely away into the bag, weigh less than you think, and are regularly very useful. Except the saw.

    [2] We have the world's biggest waterfight planned.

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    Jeremy Lee | Orinoco
  247. Gun toting 2000. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After 2000 comes and goes and nothing happens I many of our boastful pioneers will THEN boast that "I packed my trusty 38, y'all know, j'st in case them varmints wanted ta take my food here" Hmmmmmm come on? I say not 1. Get a grip people. Geez. They said Americans were gun happy. Now I believe it.

  248. Re:Spring Water+ Pure Grain Alcohol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    None of those commie bastards(fellow looters) are going to get their filthy hands on my precious bodily fluids Colonel... now I must insist that you tell me the radio lockout code for those bombers!

    RJ Bastard

    "Why Guiness? Well, once I've slept it off in the morning, I can always pour some thick, delicious Guiness on my waffles!"

  249. Re:Bushmills and other warm stuff by whizistic · · Score: 1

    Dude! The best way to spend Y2K is with loving friends and family. In my case, that means getting togeather at the local high school with mom, dad, brothers & sisters, and of course, the sysadmin. Open up a computer lab and do some "Y2K Stress testing" on the network. i.e. have some kickass half life and unreal deathmatches .

    Now, to make the activity Y2K compatible;

    55 Gallon drum of 87 grade gasonine
    5 Honda generators
    5 APC UPS's (gotta filter that power!)
    5 Hurricane lamps (for when the light fails)
    1 Case Jolt Cola (how else you gounna stay up all night?
    1 Case of pork rinds (just in case)

  250. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by lightPhoenix · · Score: 1

    My 20 gauge shotgun will bludgeon first posters and anything else just fine. It just does a few more things than a bat. Great thing is, I fired off some rounds today, so I know it works great, but its about a hundred years old, therefore Y2K compliant.

    -jeff

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  251. Advice from my Boss by Duxup · · Score: 5

    My current employer provides various wan networking support around the world so for 48 hours our company is going to be 95% staffed during that time. After our last (thank you lord) Y2k meeting the following bits of advice was issued from my employer via memo:

    For the 5% who will not working over the event (Y2k) please if you drink, have a designated driver.

    For those of you working over the event please use the designated drivers we will have here on site, we'll be drawing straws to see who they are tomorrow. (This one is actually true.)

    For those of you brining weapons to work for the event, those with the better weapons get the better parking spots.

    If things go for the worse during the event and the catered food is not enough, those with the least seniority will be killed and eaten first.

  252. y2k readiness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, we prepared, and nothing too bad happened.. everyone is probably drunk and passing out now. Cheers to another 1000 years of neat stuff.

  253. y2k..... by mackga · · Score: 1

    Nice shopping list, guys. Fortunately, we are sposed to have temps near 70 here in SE GA, so I'm not worried about wood for the fireplace - though I may buy a bunch of those fake logs for cooking in case the power goes out. Beer and plenty of it. Beef jerky and chips round out a nutritious beginning of 2000.

    One more server to patch and I'm outta here. Happy New Years everyone on /.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    "shop smart:shop s-mart" ash

  254. It was a great time! by FreeUser · · Score: 2

    As a followup it was a wonderful flight, and a great view of the fireworks! :-) We were by no means alone up there -- the most dangerous aspect of the flight wasn't the city lights going out (they didn't), the bullets from the southside (they missed), or the fireworks themselves, but the dozens of other aircraft and helicopters flying around in the same airspace!

    (Posted Jan 03, 2000)

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    The Future of Human Evolution: Autonomy
  255. If this doesn't work I'll fall back on Meijers by AlkalineDog · · Score: 1

    I've already prepared for Y2k by making bets with a lot of people that civilization won't collapse. If I'm right, I'll reap the benefits. I'f I I lose I'll pay them by credit card (even the fi' couldn't put them out of use).

  256. Utterly Scared! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard about their convenience store trek, yesterday, when I listened to "Geeks in Space." Those guys scared the death out of me! I keep hearing about problems here and there. So, I even went to Church last night and thought I'd be safe. But everybody keeps talking about the problems.

    Since I'm on a budget--it's my New Year's resolution to make more more and spend less, I'm going to wait till tomorrow, till I hear the reports from the other side of the world so I can budget on how much I need to stock up on. Provided there are any more provisions left!

  257. The amusement value of purchases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to a gas station. You know those paddle-ball games with the wooden paddle and rubber ball attached with a rubber band? Buy one of those. Buy a 10-pack of condoms. Buy a pack of razor blades. Take them to the counter and buy them. Then ask for the key to the restroom.


    Yeah, it's off-topic, but it's funny as hell and the world's gonna end anyway.

    1. Re:The amusement value of purchases by technos · · Score: 1

      After an automotive breakdown (failed gasket in a Edelbrock 650), I went into a gas station hoping to procure some stuff to repair it. I bought two large coffee's, a half-quart of mineral oil, two cheap pinball games, a small bottle of Captain Morgan, a pack of razor blades, some sewing needles, a pack of Lucky, and three non-lubricated condoms. The plan was: Use the oil to break the rusted plate screws, the needles and razorblades to scrape what remained of the gasket off, and use the condoms as a temporary gasket. The pinball games were disassembled for their springs, which were then used to replace the ones I had lost during the troubleshooting process.

      You should have seen the face of the elderly gentleman behind the counter. I think he called the cops after I walked out of the place, because they met me at my truck (a half mile down the road)and were way too curious about the contents of my shopping bag.

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  258. Re:My list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    made from real hamsters? yum! mmm.. furry....

  259. Mag-lite by Terra+Native · · Score: 1

    A recurring theme in many posts seems to be the reassurance of having a weapon on hand. If something bad really does happen, a shovel will not help when fighting the Communist invaders. The Communists are frightened by bright light, and that is why I have secured a large Mag-lite flashlight from Sears. I happen to be in New York at the moment, but am fleeing to a mountain in Vermont to escape the onslaught of innocent life that will occur when Dick Clark drops the ball in Times Square.
    The Communists and the disciples of Osama Bin Laden will begin gassing the crowds just as I am making my third run down a slope during "Midnight Runs" in Vermont. I will have my Mag-Lite in hand just in case.

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    __ While you sleep, I creep... gaining ground by the week.
    1. Re:Mag-lite by tweek · · Score: 1

      For some reason your post conjured up images of Red Dawn and the snowmobile scene in Die Hard 2. gi figure growing up on movies =P

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      "Fighting the underpants gnomes since 1998!" "Bruce Schneier knows the state of schroedinger's cat"
  260. Hello!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I need to take my medicine.

  261. Am I the only moron manning their machines? by xtremex · · Score: 1

    I am completely responsible for our network as it's my baby..I built it from the ground up and I'm not trusting anyone with my labor of love...so I'll be sitting in the NOC reading /. with the elevators shut off making sure our customers can get their friggin email. :)

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    If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
    1. Re:Am I the only moron manning their machines? by NME · · Score: 2

      Me too. Just me and my big-assed thermos of coffee. All night.

      uck.
      Happy New year, indeed.

      -nme!

  262. Canadians == Y2K compatible by MrPlab · · Score: 2

    If you're from the greatest country in the world (according to the United Nations) then you'll already be prepared for the wrath we're calling Y2K. How, you may ask.. but it's quite simple. Living in the cold tundara that inhabits everything Canadian, we have already been accustomed to the cold, dry air that will imminentley cover the rest of the world due to lack of electricity (let me remind you that Detroit, less than 0.1 mile away from Canada across the river, is considered a moderate climate and not included in the Y2K Compatibility. Sorry Detroit.).

    In my Igloo I have no power, no running water, and no indoor toilets. I use the good old Canadian Maple Leaf as toilet paper, and Moose (or Caribou, depending on the migration patterns for that particular time of year) as Canadian bacon, a source of food. I'm doubting these animals will explode due to the Y2K bug, and hopefully neither will the leaves. I have a fresh supply of water underneath my house that will never run dry as long as the United States keeps flushing their toilets (which brings a new meaning to "free trade"), and as a bonus, the water also includes a good amount of fibre due to obvious reasons. The basics of shelter, food, and water are covered quite comfortably.

    But we must not forget the need of entertainment to keep Canadians happy and content with themselves. A few Canadian beauties are known to take off their parka's at the local (and local I'm meaning 60miles away) strip club - where the Molson Canadian tree beer is always cold, and the women only have long underwear on! Yeehaw! Don't forget though: No snowshoes, No service.

    And with that being said, I'm not afraid of Y2K what-so-ever.. and I have no reason to believe any other Canadian should. I'll have my basics and a little added entertainment.. and if all else fails, the Molson Canadian Beer Tree to get piss drunk and not remember what the year is anyway.

    Giving into the stereotypes of Canada,
    Matthew
    _____________________________________

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    sortakinda.ca | canadian paraphrasing.
  263. Re:Coffee!, or Being a Lisper in the Post-Apocalyp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always stock up on coffee. At any given time I have probably 12 of those big ass cans. You can kill my wife and kids, you can steal my food, you can even break my windows with a rock but you don't fuck with my coffee.

  264. Y2K == Oregon Trail by Skyshadow · · Score: 4
    I'm treating Y2K like that old Apple ][ game "The Oregon Trail".

    As I'm sure many of you have noticed, the best way to play Oregon Trail was to forgo things like food at the start of the game, stocking up on ammo instead. Then, you cut a swath through the wildlife on the way out to Oregon to feed yourself.

    I figure any Y2K crisis is pretty much the same thing. Food, spare parts, even Hemos' whiskey are all available to the person with enough ammunition to spare. So, when my apartment has turned onto the Flaming Ciditel of Death and *I* control the greater Great Lakes region (having crushed the pathetic and drunken /. resistance), remember that you heard it here first.

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    Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
    1. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by cebe · · Score: 1

      yes you can find it here

      the Oregon Trail Apple II Disk Image and Applewin emulator are at the bottom of the page :)

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    2. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by MWright · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but in The Oregon Trail, the wildlife doesn't shoot back!




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      "But really, I think life is just a game of Mao Nomic." -Purplebob
    3. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by drenehtsral · · Score: 1

      Hehehhehe =:-) We usta have that in middle school on the school computers. I remember i would take one of those disks so i could get access to the computer room, and then i'd play my pirate copy of Conan The Barbiarian instead =:-)

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    4. Re:Y2K == Oregon Trail by T-Ranger · · Score: 1
      Has anyone done a remake of this classic game? Or at least a half decent emulator and copies of the origional?

      I dont think I ever actualy won :P

  265. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm naive to weapons, but surely shotguns would be more effective at crowd control? If you need to take down lots of people real fast, wouldn't a shotgun be better?

  266. I'll be at 3200 ft, on the ground... by Barbarian · · Score: 2

    Calgary, Alberta, where I live, is at 3200 ft already.

  267. Re:Oh no! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not if he could deflect bullets with his hands...hmm, might have a bit of trouble with the ol' shotgun tho...

  268. My List (If I had time) by Kid+Zero · · Score: 4

    a. Toilet Paper. A good case of Scott Tissue will do.
    b. Ramen and Soup.
    C. Vitamins
    d. Warm Clothes.
    e. blunt heavy object. I'll work my way up to firearms. I figure the first few will be dumb...
    f. Diapers. I have two kids.
    g. big flashlight and batteries. spare blunt object.

    *just kidding*

    1. Re:My List (If I had time) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A large box of condoms. After all with that kind of ammo, a food supply and no law, sex shouldn't be hard to come by.

  269. What!?! No duct tape!?! by kaiser · · Score: 1

    I'm horrified to see that none of you included duct tape on your list of things to have for Y2K (especially so soon after the Slashdot 10 Ten Hacks story).

    For you MacGyver fans, you'll probably also want to include a Swiss Army knife and possibly some potatoes (as a source of electricity and food).

    -- Winston Yen

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    -- Winston Yen
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits."
  270. I did mine .... by taniwha · · Score: 2
    I did my y2k/end-of-the-world preparedness shopping .... I went to Peets.

    I figure that without good coffee I'm toast

  271. Call me morbid.. by Blue+Lang · · Score: 1

    But I'm hoping for armageddon.. I'm gonna go hang out at the dam and see if the sky turns red with the blood of two thousand years of sin..

    Failing that, I'll go home and go back to coding. :)

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    blue

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    i browse at -1 because they're funnier than you are.
  272. not exactly "funny ha ha" by Xerxes · · Score: 1

    I will have a lot of red licorish, dried apples and vodka. I have an inflatable raft in the trunk of my car in case the heat cased by all those vaporising christians at rapture casues the polar ice caps to melt, bringing about a waterworld scenario.

  273. Re:Baseball bats are better than guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but you forget we are geeks who all hate society and ready to shot everyone because we've been playing half life too long... Also think of all that extra shooting accuracy and techniques and resistance to gore we get from UT and QIII

  274. Mercenary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone interested in joining my new Mercenary squad. I figure we work for whoever has the supplies, or just take the supplies from them. We'll live like kings! I need new recruits in all divisions. A primary concern should be capturing a large supply of oil. As oil could be used for heat, fuel for vehicles, and to produce electricity. Transportation is what makes an army. I am currently basing my headquarters in Michigan. Reply to this to join...

    1. Re:Mercenary... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  275. Tacticle Nuclear Missile by ph43drus · · Score: 1
    I figure any guy who can get his hands on that kind of equipment (.50 cal Machine Guns, Sherman Tanks, LAWS rockets, and knows his ammo), probably has a shot at it. I suggest a small neutron bomb, most of the radiation will disipate in a couple of days (screw wasting the electronics of Portland/Vancouver, kill everyone in the area).

    Just stay clear of Olympia.

    Jeff

  276. Bunker..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I will be in the well stocked bunker that the large IT company I work for has, eating nice catered food, course once the apoclypse starts I will be eating MRE's.

  277. As a fellow Michigandor... by Rabbins · · Score: 2

    ... I know the necesity of always having alchohol on hand.

    While my favorite whiskey would have to be Wild Turkey (shoot one for me), I commend the Slashdot crew for carefully loading up on the ol' Mountain Dew.

    The distillary is also a grand idea... Whiskey is incredibly easy to make (any fellow brewers out there would know), and you folks being in Holland would be a quick little jaunt fo me to stock up on grandpa's tea.

    Thanks,

  278. Need H2O for Y2K? by milythael · · Score: 1

    Do you have a water heater? Depending on size, this could provide between 20 and 120 gallons of water in a time of need.

  279. My Y2K Plans ;-) by eric2hill · · Score: 1

    I just bought three cases of duct tape so that I can tape everything in my home down so when the world stops spinning (come 1/1/2K) I will be the only one who is able to eat off of unbroken dishes!

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    LOADING...
    READY.
    RUN
  280. You shoud get a.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hand operated reverse osmosis filter. You can find them at your local sporting goods store for $80-$120. They are great little devices that will decontaminate just about any kind of water. I got one for use when mountain biking (just drop it in a stream to re-fill your bottle), but it has come in handy a few times at home. Just a few years ago here (Flagstaff) during a cold winter, a sewer pipe cracked and contimanated much of the city water. Well, not to worry, this thing did a great job of filtering out anything that was in there. Not a bad thing to own, all in all.

  281. Spring Water+ Pure Grain Alcohol by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 1

    We all knew that the flouridation plot would come to something like this. i got my Kalashnikov, 2000 rds of tungsten core ammo, 50 cases of corned beef hash, and plenty of mescaline to see me through the coming tribulation. Jesus is coming, and he looks pissed.
    ^. .^

  282. I'm Prepared For Y2K by Steve+B · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find the 2000 Babylon 5 calendar, so I settled for a cat calendar instead.
    /.

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    /. If the government wants us to respect the law, it should set a better example.
  283. My Y2k Shopping list. by NullGrey · · Score: 1

    1) A shotgun
    2) ammo

    Everything else can be looted easily among the chaos.

    "See this? This is my BOOM-Stick!"
    "Good.. Bad.. I'm the guy with the gun."
    -Ash, "Army of Darkness"

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    1. Re:My Y2k Shopping list. by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2

      My thoughts exactly.

      Thats why I headed down to the local gun show and bought me a Mossberg 590 shotgun. 8+1 rounds mean fun in the streets for me.

      Me and old Mossy are going to party like it's 1999.

  284. Now, *this* is a Y2K plan... by Winged+Cat · · Score: 1

    As society collapses due to Y2K panic, I will reside with my fellow endangered subspecies, homo commonsensus, and watch self-fulfilling prophecies of disaster play themselves out from a distance. We will maintain enough of a military and police capability to send rioters out into the wastelands that used to be large cities, where they can forage with less resistance.

    Meanwhile, civilization will continue in our enclave (which will include enough defended farmland to feed us). With the future-fearing majority of humanity out of our hair, we will proceed unimpeded to develop nanotechnology, bioengineering, and other technologies to make our lives and ourselves better. (We would not be averse to a little organized raiding of our own if, as time goes on, it turns out that we forgot to claim some important resources. Indeed, we may even capture some of the more promising tribes to use as our own labor force, at least until we can start manufacturing truly intelligent robotic servants. We expect little resistance capable of withstanding us: an AK-47 doesn't do much against a tank.)

    We expect to achieve spaceflight and move ourselves into colonies at the Earth-Moon Lagrange points before someone manages to figure out how to launch the nuclear missiles from their abandoned silos. The final extermination of all life on Earth is expected to be a pretty, if sad (in a nostalgic sense), sight from orbit. Won't you join us there to ring in 2001?

  285. The List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I'm not posting what I have stockpiled (if anything) and where I live so that I know I won't be one of the people that the mobs come after to loot, pillage, rape, burn, kill, etc.

  286. my list is complete (except for the merlot) by G27+Radio · · Score: 2

    water - I already have several gallons of bottled water already since my tap water sucks

    food - still working on the leftovers from christmas. they'll probably still be in my fridge well past Y2k anyway

    woman - I realized that this might be important in a post-apocolypse world. Not that anyone could truly replace my PC, washer, and dryer should the electricity go out.

    medication - It would be irresponsible to enter the next millenium unprepared. So, I have made certain that I have any important medication I need, and enough knowledge to grow an acre or two of it if necessary.

    alcohol - guinness bass corona jack daniels kj chardonay (?sp?). Any suggestions on a good merlot?

    numb

  287. Ramen Noodles by BoyPlankton · · Score: 1
    Having recently graduated college, I have a seemingly endless supply of Ramen Noodles in the event that the apocalypse should occur tomorrow night. All I need now is some bottled water and propane for the camp stove and I'll be good-to-go.

    Boy Plankton

  288. alright! My kind of y2k survival stock! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know where I'm going to be when my beer supply runs out!

    Rob Malda
    116 E 18th St
    Holland, MI 49423
    616-994-0441

  289. Uses for Keyboards after the apocalypse by jagger · · Score: 2

    Keyboards could be used as primitive shingles for your house. They also make excellent weapons, budgeoning, strangling, whipping, its all in there. The original IBM keyboards can be used as boat anchors. If you need to scale a wall you can throw the keyboard side over the top and then climb up the cord (grapling hook style) most useful for getting into the neighbors fortress at night without being discovered.

  290. Oh no! by zi0n · · Score: 1
    I am from Southern Michigan and I know at least one group that believes our county will be the only remaining county ABOVE water on Jan. 2! Then we cant forget about the fruit loops that are stocking Food, Gas, Gens, and Handguns in their garage/so_called_bunkers. Oh, and WTF is up with people buying handguns? A rifle or Shotgun is MUCH easier to kill FOOD with and does just as much damage(if not more) than a Handgun!! Can u picture some urbanite out in a pasture taking pop shots at a deer 50 yards out with a 9mm Ruger!! Ha! Well I guess if the choas is to come I might as well get into it by buying all the Doritos, Twinkies and Mug rootbeer I could possibly store in my house. Oh and I think a generator could be useful so that I can run my computer. (Overclock the processor fer heat..;)

    Michigan is a wierd place to live thats for sure. I think its the weather....

    1. Re:Oh no! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2

      If you can't hit a deer in the shoulder at 50 yards with a 9mm semiauto, you shouldn't own one.
      -russ
      p.s. deer have big shoulders.

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      Don't piss off The Angry Economist
  291. The Golden Bee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the vertical range of a 30-06 or a Mac10? There will be lots of things in the air at Midnight over Chicago other than lakefront fireworks.

    Some drunken geeks will be watching "October Sky" as their New Year entertainment and then decide to go out and launch some Estes rockets - maybe even trying (in an alcohol enhanced reality) the cluster of "D" engines they were always dreaming about.

    1. Re:The Golden Bee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oooh, maybe I should finish painting that three stage rocket I bought a few months ago. =)

      Mikael Jacobson

  292. Bank Statements by TheTomcat · · Score: 1

    Someone mentioned that we should all go out and get hard copies of our current banking info, should something go awry.

    I say: Take the $900 in my account! I owe 12 grand on my student loans. Fair trade if you ask me! (-;

  293. My list by dsplat · · Score: 2
    As usual, I got my shopping done early:

    • Y2K compliance upgrade disk for Win 9x machines.
    • Beer & beer making supplies in case the water isn't drinkable.
    • Cell phone number of friend on Y2K team for local power company.
    • Leslie Fish's tape Firestorm containing such useful songs as Black Powder and Alcohol, Blue Bread Mold and The Day It Fell Apart.
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    The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
  294. Is there a website about various geekhouses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a website about various geekhouses/geekcompounds around the US and world?

  295. pick one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need toilet paper, kleenex, paper towels, AND napkins. Pick one and stick with it.

  296. My List by cruise · · Score: 1

    The Geeks don't know good booze

    Here is my list!

    A 10 pack of trojans. (You may not be getting any /. geeks.. but some of us are)
    5 botles (1.75 litre) Captain Morgan's Rum
    10 bottles (2 litre) Dr. Pepper
    48 rolls of toilet paper (Mr. Whipple Is a fetishist)
    4000 rounds of 44 calibre amunition. (no, i'm not paranoid.. it's for "target practice"!)
    Thats the important stuff.. Now the other stuff
    A full tank of gas in the car.
    A lockpick kit (need to make a master key for my apartment complex for when the looting starts)
    Several back issues of Linux Journal (for when the toilet paper runs out)


    You are a threat to free speach and must be SILENCED!

  297. Baseball bats are better than guns by georgeha · · Score: 2
    not baseball bats-- GUNS!!!!


    • Guns require ammo, bats don't.
    • Gusn require reloading, difficult to do in the mittens and gloves required in upstate New York's winter.
    • Baseball bats are stealthier, just one muted thwonk!
    • Wooden baseball bats can be used to start a fire to simmer wort and make beer.
    • Baseball bats are inherently Y2K compatible, guns have lots of moving parts, each one of which needs to be Y2K certified.
    • Baseball bats can be wrapped in a white sheet for stealthy winter use without affecting their use. It's hard to find a gun's trigger when it's wrapped in a sheet.


    George
  298. Feh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Didn't you people see The Postman? You don't need a shovel. You need a sword. The guy with the sword manages to create an army of miscreants. Just watch out for an out of work/food/booze Kevin Costner.

    As for fine quality beverages and supplies:
    (1) Bottle of Cap'n Morgan's Private Stock
    (1) Bottle of Smirnoff Vodka.
    (3) Bags of large potatos
    (1) Plans to build a M.A.S.H. like distillery.

    Anything else, just behead your neighbors with the aforementioned sword. Oh, be sure to get a full tank of gas the night before, so you can get to looting the grocery stores early.

  299. Fully Y2K Defiant by Coram · · Score: 1

    I'm set, prepped and kitted up for a big one.

    I am stocked up with several cases of Carlton Cold, a fine Australian brew, for myself and friends.

    My black CK jeans are hanging over a nearby chair, next to my "Fuck the Millenium" tshirt, which incidentally took 2 months to arrive after I ordered it online.

    I'll be reporting events live from Sydney, one of the early entrants to Y2K, to various folk around the globe. What bigger media event than the appocalypse?

    Actually I'm looking forward to a good dose of rioting. And looting. Contemplated what you'd go for? Fancy some new clothes that you really don't want to spend the money on? How about expanding your cd collection. Perhaps one of those juicy Toshiba laptops you've been drooling over? mine runs linux great.

    Or maybe you'll just take the flexible option and go for cash? Hey sure, that's how I've always done it.

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    I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster, get yo own goddamned money!
  300. "Nobody likes a math geek Scully" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  301. My list by gorilla · · Score: 2

    I bought 2 big bags of hamster food.

  302. offtopic reminiscience of apple ][ by _outcat_ · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, I just had to comment on this. I'm but a young tyke, still in HS, but Oregon Trail on the Apple][ was one of the first games I ever played.

    From kindergarten to 6th grade, my computer classes at my (small, dying, private) school consisted of ancient Sierra games for 16 mint-condition Apple ][e's (they're still used for those poor kids to this very day. Now I get 486's running Win95. Yeckkkch...)

    The best part was definitely the hunting. And the dire warnings about who got diptheria and died. And leaving messages on the tombstones. Oh, heck, I miss that game. Someone port it to Linux. Or, is there anything out there to emulate that really old Apple stuff? I have a working 360k 5 1/4" drive...

    offtopic as ever and expecting to feel it in karma....

    --
    Angry IT woman in big clompy boots. And talking lint!.
  303. Karma Points? by Rabbins · · Score: 2

    Will my karma points get me anything in the new society?

  304. rum as currency by Swordfish · · Score: 2
    Way back in the olden days in Australia, about 1800 AD, there was not enough money. So people used rum as a currency. This went on for about 10-20 years, until money could be printed in the new colony.

    I suggest that you immediately go out and purchase about $2000 worth of rum. It could be a better investment than Internet stocks if things go well.

    But seriously though, I'm very afraid that nothing at all is going to fail, and a lot of people are going to verrrry unhappy!

  305. Re:Bushmills and other warm stuff by drenehtsral · · Score: 1

    All i've got stockpiled for Y2K is about a dozen packs of ramen, 2 cases of homebrewed hard cider (which won't actually be fully aged until spring), and some odds and ends.
    I would be drinking Bushmills (or maybe Black Label) this newyears, 'cept an old friend is back in town, and there is a tradition of Tanqueray to be upheld...

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    Play Six Pack Man. I
  306. When will it all end... by balneary · · Score: 1

    The economy won't collapse until late in january because no one will have to buy anything all month. We'll all be living off all of the stuff we've been stashing away.

  307. Inverse, shifts, and american politics... by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 2

    101010
    shr A, 1
    010101

    From this we can see that there will in fact be a political shift to the right.

    Nooooo! Bush for president.
    Ok, you were right, it is the apocalypse.

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    -- perl -e'print pack"H*","6e656d6f406d38792e6f7267"' /. ate my old sig. Bastards.
  308. Reason why they might not be able to... by tilly · · Score: 2

    Some animals are people.

    Most animals are very good at making themselves scarce when confronted with people. People have not developed that reflex. Therefore people are easier to hunt than most other animals. (Particularly in crowded urban environments.)

    So this is not a case of has/does not have edible resources. It is a case of being edible resources!

    HTH,
    Ben

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    My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
  309. Don't fear Y2K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fear October 10, 2001 @ 10:10AM

    10/10/01 10:10
    1010011010 = 666

  310. Crisis - great for the economy by ch-chuck · · Score: 3

    d'ja notice that about every 'y2k plan' involves "going out and buying stuff" - no matter what happens, grocers and retails are cleaning up this season.

    Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching!

    Boojum
    Backing up stuff like there's no tomorrow.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  311. Gas cans by buzzcutbuddha · · Score: 1

    Yeah well I just found out that I have to go work service in the *worst* part of town by myself if anything goes wrong for a contract...makes me wonder if I shouldn't have bought that shotgun like I wanted to. Hmmmm, thank goodness I have my claymore.

    btw - I purchased 4 2.5 gallon gas cans (all the 5 gallon ones were purchased many eons ago) and lots of batteries, new flashlights, a battery powered alarm clock, a battery powered shortwave radio receiver, a battery powered police scanner, and four cases of water, because here in PA, United Water said all of a sudden that they aren't quite sure that they will be compliant. I also got a Y2K compliant handcrank can opener.

    oh yeah, and a ton of vitamins and herbal goodies!

  312. Me, my Chivas Regal, and Grandma's chest freezer by bildstorm · · Score: 1

    Yup, I'll be surviving Y2K in the only properly fitting way - hanging out with those who don't rely on technology.

    Having acclimated to the perpetual 50 degree weather inside Grandma's house, I figure we can burn about 3 logs a day and stay perfectly warm. We can cook on the woodstove too.

    Now, when it does get a bit nippy, I have the Scotch.

    Any since those freezers contain SO MUCH FOOD, well, last estimate was we'd need to get food come March. (Ok, so one can't really live on only ice cream, but who cares, right?)

    And, don't forget the board games! Yes, Grandma has bought something like 30 games over the past few years. There's nothing better than playing Scrabble and Monopoly!

    Happy New Year everyone!

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    The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. - G.B. Shaw
  313. snow shovel by stak · · Score: 1

    I think the snow shovel is a little under rated right now, I mean with nuclear winter on the horizon, a lot more people might want to have some snow shovels around.

  314. Power Failures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As for where I am right now, nothing power related is going to happen. Most power companies have been running on the year 2000 since last april. In other words, right now all of their machines say 12/30/2000 so rolling over from 2000 to 2001 isn't going to be a problem. So I guess CmdrTaco can nuke his Lasagne.

  315. power cord & generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good thing to do would be too hook your generator up to your house (with a one phase plug in one end and a three phase plug in the other)

    just remember to unplug three phase things such as stove,washing machine,etc... and turn of the main power switch

    (the reason for doing this would be so that you will still be able to use single phase items such as lights,computer,etc...)


    Mikael Jacobson

    (Don't blame me if you didn't understand or if you get electricuted)

  316. Some thoughts... by jd · · Score: 2
    • If the Doctor Who Missing Episodes aren't Y2K compliant, does that mean they'll be found?
    • Mead is better than beer, IMHO. But, then, I'm English and prefer Real Ales, too.
    • It's possible to distill using an ice-pack, a plate, a collander, a small bowl, and a saucepan. However, this should not be done unless it is for educational purposes in a Chemistry class.
    • Distilled water is probably the single-most useful item you can get. Snow has a LOT of toxins from air pollution, and river water will likely become contaminated when the factories start exploding.
    • I hope Slashdot is Y2K-compliant - I'd hate to loose all that karma.
    • To build a radio capable of reception, you need a safety pin, a metal straight-edge razor-blade, an ear-phone and some wire. The pin and the razor-blade serve the same purpose as a tuning crystal. It'll be good enough to pick up short-wave radio within a State or two, which isn't bad for a radio made up of junk. (Source: Wireless World, 1944, US military receiver, used by POWs and in situations where conventional receivers would not be safe or possible.)
    • So far, the only people seriously affected by the Y2K bug are Microsoft (SecurityFocus) and some British banks (BBC). Somehow, if they're going to be the only casualties, I suspect nobody is going to cry too much over the choice.
    • I recently destructively tested a packet of M&M's for Y2K compliance. They failed the test, but I found that patching with a Penguin Mint fixes the problem.
    • Penguin Mints seem to fix most Y2K bugs found in edible produce. I am conducting further tests on the ceiling.
    • If civilisation collapses, and all is laid to waste, the Wombles will make their bid for power. Sneaking out of their lair, in Wimbledon Common, and armed with semi-automatic tidy-bags, they will clean up England once and for all. You have been warned!
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    It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)