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TSA Missed Boston Bomber Because His Name Was Misspelled In a Database
schwit1 sends this news from The Verge:
"Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the primary conspirator in the Boston Marathon bombing that killed three people, slipped through airport security because his name was misspelled in a database, according to a new Congressional report. The Russian intelligence agency warned U.S. authorities twice that Tsarnaev was a radical Islamist and potentially dangerous. As a result, Tsarnaev was entered into two U.S. government databases: the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment and the Treasury Enforcement Communications System (TECS), an interagency border inspection database.
A special note was added to TECS in October of 2011 requiring a mandatory search and detention of Tsarnaev if he left the country. 'Detain isolated and immediately call the lookout duty officer,' the note reportedly said. 'Call is mandatory whether or not the officer believes there is an exact match.' 'Detain isolated and immediately call the lookout duty officer.' Unfortunately, Tsarnaev's name was not an exact match: it was misspelled by one letter. Whoever entered it in the database spelled it as 'Tsarnayev.' When Tsarnaev flew to Russia in January of 2012 on his way to terrorist training, the system was alerted but the mandatory detention was not triggered. Because officers did not realize Tsarnaev was a high-priority target, he was allowed to travel without questioning."
A special note was added to TECS in October of 2011 requiring a mandatory search and detention of Tsarnaev if he left the country. 'Detain isolated and immediately call the lookout duty officer,' the note reportedly said. 'Call is mandatory whether or not the officer believes there is an exact match.' 'Detain isolated and immediately call the lookout duty officer.' Unfortunately, Tsarnaev's name was not an exact match: it was misspelled by one letter. Whoever entered it in the database spelled it as 'Tsarnayev.' When Tsarnaev flew to Russia in January of 2012 on his way to terrorist training, the system was alerted but the mandatory detention was not triggered. Because officers did not realize Tsarnaev was a high-priority target, he was allowed to travel without questioning."
That's a bomber, I mean bummer.
Table-ized A.I.
The most advanced systems in the world will never outpace human mistakes.
The TSA is operated by some of the most incompetent people the USA has to offer. They are the problem, not the hardware or software. I fail to see why they should get a "free pass" here on account of a bad database entry. Heads should be hung over this, especially considering the justifications thrown around for the continued existence of the TSA.
Doh!!!
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Copy Paste.
It's not that hard.
I've seen this story about Russia giving us warnings about the Boston bomber floating around elsewhere recently, why is this news now? We knew this back in 2013.
Despite the misspelling, the FBI interviewed him and determined he was no threat (unlike his friend who they interviewed after the bombing, and shot to death during the interview).
So what would it have mattered if airport security searched him after one of his trips to Russia? It's almost certain he wasn't carrying anything that would have got him arrested.
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soundex
Levenshtein distance
Hamming distance
More like this, can't be arsed to go looking them up, though. Those were three I knew off the cuff.
They would have "missed" Tsarnaev if he had a siren and a pink neon "TERRORIST" sign bolted to his forehead. Re: Nidal Hasan.
They only miss things they aren't interested in finding.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
I think the tacit implication here is that if Tsarnaev had been questioned on exiting the country the Boston Marathon bombing might have been averted, but is there really any substance to this? Do we think he would have changed plans had he been questioned? Pressure cooker outlets would have been alerted to refuse to sell him cookware? What exactly would the outcome likely have been had he been questioned?
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News at Nine: transliterations of names can be tricky... Some parts of the world use different alphabets...
It was not misspelled, it was just transliterated differently. The original name is Cyrillic, and "Tsarnayev" is actually closer to how it is supposed to be pronounced, but "Tsarnaev" is the more usual letter-for-letter transliteration that doesn't distinguish two modes of Russian "e" (it's pronounced as "e" in general, but as "ye" after vowels and at the beginning of words), and is the one that's usually used in passports. I wouldn't be surprised if "Tsarnayev" was how it was spelled in the documents that they've got from Russia, because the person on the other side translated it phonetically...
Either way, this points at a glaring issue in all those databases. If they require a perfect match, they're going to be very flaky for all kinds of foreign names - ironically, Arabic ones especially, which I assume are the most commonly searched ones. Remember that whole Qaddafi vs Gaddafi vs Kaddafi in US press when Libya was on the front pages?
Yet another evidence that all this stuff is little more but security theater. It doesn't matter whether it actually works, so long as people are convinced that it does. Unfortunately, they actually let a real terrorist through this time...
haven't they heard of soundex?
The soundex algorithm would have helped.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundex
I've written about this before; I used to write financial software for a living, and one of the requirements for a US bank was to provide a mechanism to detect transactions by an unauthorized person.
In short, the govt. provides a list of bad people in a text file. One name per line, all upper case, like it came out of an old batch system. We then check to see if the sender or receiver of any transaction /EXACTLY/ matches that string, case insensitive. If it's an exact letter-for-letter match, there's a flag that's set and the transaction is delayed, but it appears to go through as normal(*). What happens after that is the bank's responsibility, but that's the whole of the complexity.
Whoever made the list usually has a few variants of spelling; OSAMA BIN LADEN or OMASA BIN LADEN or OSMA BIN LADEN, for example. But that's it. Just spelling your name slightly differently is enough to avoid the flag. We're literally not allowed to add anything else, like soundex matching or handling foreign letters.
This is ~probably~ also how the TSA no fly list works, and why you still hear about false positives from time to time. It's also probably how any security works until it's been around for 20 years and they hire a contracting company to make them really good software that does what they want, instead of what they think they want it to do.
It just takes a very long time for software designed by a legislative committee with no technical awareness to morph into something usable, but that's government for you.
* - most transactions are not sent out until the end-of-day reconciliation anyway, so it looks like it's accepted like most other transactions, probably in a 'pending' state in your online balance - unless you're paying for a wire transfer or something.
"on his way to terrorist training"
Bullshit! I can't believe the Republicans are still sticking to that lie to try to scare the general public. That is a complete and utter lie. Besides the ones the CIA runs, there are no terrorist training camps. They're trying, and failing(!), to try to convince us that terrorists are a problem when the Republicans are the problem.
You are trying to be funny, right?
I know that to most of you, Republicans are responsible for everything from circles-that-can't-be-squared to bad breath, but really, I assure you that they didn't invent Muslim nutso bombers.
well well.. a spelling mistake in the end, a shame, the US cannot put a name correctly in a database.
They never tell you the truth. All assertion, no evidence.
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Never been known to fail..."
Baloney. The first rule of government bureaucracy is to blame your resources when you fail. The second rule is to demand more money to fix the problem.
is the last bastion of American freedom, but fear not, they have set aside 30 billion dollars and will be sending S.W.A.T. to every home to verify.
After 9/11, the dragnets were so broad and reckless that people whose names even resembled those of suspected terrorists ended up being dragged out in the night, held indefinitely, sometimes tortured, and in best-case scenarios "merely" put on no-fly lists and blacklisted from employment. Better to accept the possibility of an attack and remain a free country than accept that kind of disgrace.
Why would they have to *enter* the name twice, just click the identity, tag it and link to detention... sheesh...
who designed their app?? The folks who fucked up the obamacare websites? uhhhh ohhhh - looks like it was...
..sure they did..
Neither "Tsarnaev" nor "Tsarnayev" is the correct spelling; the correct spelling is "ЦÐÑнÐÌÐÐ".
As another commenter mentioned, utility companies solved this problem decades ago with technology like Soundex. Our intelligence apparatus is apparently crippled by incompetence, laziness, haste, provincialism, or all of the above.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev- T-I-M-T-H-O-M-A-S. I am professional hockey player.
That fiend had changed his name to "Tsarnayev'); DROP TABLE Terrorists; --"
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Seriously, this entire organization encompasses everything wrong with the Federal government. Massive privacy overreach, complete incompetence, and a literal NIGHTMARE BUREAUCRACY! This is one of the worst aspects of the Bush legacy, and "The One" has not done anything to curtail its power: http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL...
Agent: Tamerlan Tsarnev
Google: Did you mean: Tamerlan Tsarnaev
That would have solved the problem.
Exactly. This is clearly all Bush's fault. Glorious Leader Obamessiah never does any wrong.
Yes, actually you could argue it's Bush's fault, and the GOP's fault.
You see, they were too busy crying about Clinton's jizz on a Blue Dress to pay attention to some guy named "Bin Laden" who was blowing up embassies. They got so pissed at Clinton for launching cruise missiles at training camps that after he left office, Bush completely halted all operations against his network. Then they proceeded to ignore multiple public warnings and threats, and after the first airplane hit the tower Bush felt it was more important to finish reading "My Pet Goat" to some kids than it was to immediately ground all commercial air traffic in the region.
For the record, I'm a Conservative. But I'm not an idiot, either, and can do more than puke up "clever" insults I heard on Rush's nutjob radio show.
john or jhon or joohn....... every one gets a different one.
I said Sowndaex
This topic has been covered before...
http://slashdot.org/story/137228
It should have been: Archibald Tuttle
Sdelat' Ameriku velikoy Snova!
we can require everybody to change their name. but we still end up with Anderson, Andersen, Anderssen, etc.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
The next time they cavity-search your 9-year-old daughter at the airport, or microwave your pregnant wife, they're doing it to protect you from TERRORISTS!
When they log your license plates, traffic-cam your commute, snoop on your e-mail and phone calls, etc. remember: IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD! #OBEY. Do not object no matter what natural and/or constitutional rights they infringe! Above all, ask no questions! (you might be aiding TERRORISTS if you do).
It's all Security Theater (TM).
This EXACTLY like U.S. Border security; The elites want the cheap labor and hope to get the votes of a new permanent poor underclass so they demand no border control (and do not enforce immigration laws) while they pretend to be concerned and show-off border patrol vehicles and weapons, etc and propose bill after bill to "fix" the "broken" existing laws (which are only "Broken" in the sense that they're not being enforced).
The same elites (in BOTH parties - they work together) who let the entire Bin Laden family fly out of the US immediately post-911 (while US citizens were all grounded) without ANY of the normal investigative interviews ANY American family of a mass-murderer would have been subjected to, orders 70-year-old Catholic nuns to get groped at airports for our safety. The same elites who demand lax security at all the nation's cargo ports (so the billions of dollars of trade packed into massive shipping containers will freely flow and their stock market investments will rise) need to make sure YOU do not carry a quart of Mountain Dew onto a plane (to PROTECT THE NATION!!!). They demand online services provide access to your accounts, demand your banks hand-over your financial records, demand your phone company hand over your phone records, demand your doctor make all your medical records electronic and available to them online ("don't worry, it's all for your own GOOD" they say) ... don't worry, NONE of that information will be used by the IRS or the NSA to blackmail your elected politicians or your judges... but then they claim they just cannot find an actual terrorist even when given his identity long before the attack (oh, they MEANT to stop him, but they just COULDN'T help it! they mis-spelled his name!). They are counting on the public to generally be too stupid to ask questions and push-back before they can get their police state. Elites are always perfectly happy in police states... average people? not so much. Pay no attenttion to any of this. They'll give your food stamps and offer you legalized pot if you'll just look away while they sieze all your most-important rights.
Move along. Nothing to see here, it's all double-plus good.
Oops, must be Bush's fault :-)
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Jane Smyth from 1600 Foo Ave. is not John Smith from 1601 Foo St. One or both of these people might not even exist. If the database just did some simple consistency checks like that as a matter of routine, not only would they detain the right people, they'd gradually "heal" the database. Name, address, telephone, email, maybe a few other things without compromising everybody's security (no SSNs, etc.) and you'd get a much more robust ID.
Excellent point. I don't know why you've been modded as a troll. GP sounds exactly like Newsnight's Will McAvoy (Jeff Daniels).. the Hollywood fantasy version of a conservative who is "fed up" with how "real" conservatives have no options because their party has been "hijacked" by nutjobs.
It is really transparent.
Add the names of all TSA employees to the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment and the Treasury Enforcement Communications System.
Also, Add Dianne Feinstein and Richard C. Blum to the list. On the list add a note to Feinstein and Blum reading, "Kill on sight."
Looks like the noose around Feinstein's and Blum's necks is closing fast with the capture of California State Sen. Leland Yee and "25 other defendants, including Raymond Chow, a onetime gang leader with ties to San Francisco’s Chinatown known as “Shrimp Boy,” and Keith Jackson, Yee’s campaign aide."
Sometimes, death, comes in small packages.
Ha ha
They missed the Boston bombers because they are spying ON EVERYONE instead of focusing the spying, based on probable cause, on the correct folks.
Liberty.
Until somebody re-invents fuzzy search, this will remain a problem for transliterations between Roman and Russian alphabets.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Good point highlighting how Slashdot still doesn't support Unicode in 2014 by the way...
You gotta love this rewrite of history. Let's go back to when the Soviet Union was invading Afghanistan shall we...
It was Saint Ronald Reagan in office who proclaimed those very same people who later did the attacks as "freedom fighters" worthy of illegally diverting funds for arms (look up Iran-Contra Scandal). Every republican loves to trot out that old red herring "Since 9/11 we haven't been attacked again." completely ignoring who was in power on 9/11, the anthrax attacks and the sniper attacks at the time. If the TSA was truly effective, then the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber and yes, even the 9/11 attackers themselves wouldn't have made their way onto those planes to begin with since everyone of them were supposedly on watch lists...
The TSA is, and always has been, nothing more than security theater. It is 100% reactionary to threats that either were successful or attempted. Someone tries to put explosives in their shoes, we all have to have our shoes off. Someone tries to get explosives in their underpants, we all have to go through invasive searches of our private parts. Someone uses a sharp object to cut the throats of flight personnel, they take away nail clippers because they can be sharp. It is rumored that explosives can be in liquid form so they ban all liquids, even unopened bottled water.
I will agree with you on one point though, it was a FULL Congress that passed the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act. It was the FULL Congress that renewed it too. So in that regard it was both parties that enabled this shit.
I have a US "Green Card". I had to fill out about 27 forms and the last three required me to print my name in block letters, one letter per square. Being British I have of course impeccable printing.
All the correspondence had my name spelled correctly but when I got the card - my name was spelled incorrectly.
"It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for" - Will Rogers.
Need Mercedes parts ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrUixFDW3Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orxbrfRbbEU
Oh great, now the government will overcompensate by making the search logic even fuzzier, generating far more false positives. Is your name one letter off from someone on the No-Fly list? You're not going to be allowed to fly either. It was bad enough when the TSA was grounding flights when 8-month-olds matched the name of a terrorist, now you're going to have way more of that.
Don't believe me? After the Underwear Bomber was caught in 2009, Homeland Security decided to prevent it from happening again, by drastically increasing the No-Fly lists and broadening it to encompass flights to Canada and Mexico.
FBI Interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev 2 Years Ago http://boston.cbslocal.com/201... BOSTON (CBS) – Slain Boston Marathon bombings suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev had spoken to investigators prior to Monday’s bombing and subsequent manhunt. CBS News correspondent Bob Orr first reported, the FBI interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder brother of Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, in 2011 at the request of a foreign government to see if he had any extremist ties, but failed to find any incriminating information. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was arrested Friday night after a violent manhunt in Greater Boston. The Tsarnaev brothers were legal residents of the United States. CBS News correspondent John Miller reports Tamerlan Tsarnaev was likely questioned because of suspected ties to Chechen extremists. Miller says Tamerlan Tsarnaev had a sit-down interview where they likely asked him questions about contacts and surroundings. CBS News reports although the FBI initially denied contacting Tsarnaev, the brothers’ mother said they had in an interview with Russia Today. Zubeidat Tsarnaeva said her son got involved in “religious politics” about five years ago, and never told her he was involved in “jihad.” Tamerlan Tsarnaev died after a violent shoot out and chase with police Thursday night. His brother continued on the run until his capture in the backyard of a Watertown home.
Sorry buddy, but if you think that Obama is the center of all the problems your not seeing the big picture. It doesnt matter who the president is, the system is setup the way it is and one president will be the same as the other.
Since congress is landlocked in this crazy congressional drawn district and many of them are only challenged by even crazier people, the real problem is there.
In the end, this president, the former president and the next few presidents, plus the congress, supreme court and pretty much are entire government will go down as the worse of all time....but i would like to say, your singularly focus on one person means you will do nothing to help stop it because your fantasy land thinks that the president you vote for next time will fix it, but he/she wont..even if by some fucking miracle you get someone who truly wants to change it, you still got 435 idiots in one chamber, 60 idiots in another, then 9 idiots who are looking at them and paving the way for more stupid behavior (supreme court)
Obviously, still not everyone has read this yet.
Espescially it seems like we're talking about #1, #9, #30 and #37 and #38, while we're at it.
bickerdyke
All terrorist are now required to be named John Smith, if you are a John Smith then you need to change it because only terrorist can be called John Smith.
See, problem solved NSA style......
PS, NSA still needs to listen to your phone calls, make sure you are not a John Smith in disguise
"The father of the Boston bombing suspects claims to Channel 4 News that the FBI telephoned his elder son after the attack, and prior to a fatal shootout that claimed the life of a police officer."
"the FBI interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder brother of Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, in 2011 at the request of a foreign government to see if he had any extremist ties"
"Tamerlan Tsarnaev attended a workshop sponsored by the CIA-linked Jamestown Foundation,Izvestia reports today (see English translation here). The Russian newspaper cites documents produced by the Counterintelligence Department Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia confirming that the NGO “Fund of Caucasus” held workshops in the summer of 2012 and Tsarnaev attended."
The problem is not a\ mis-spelling, there are many ways of rendering Russian names into Roman script. Both 'Tsarnaev' and 'Tsarnayev' are correct. The problem is relying on exact spellings instead of sound-alikes or approximate string matching.
Just try looking up Tchaikovsky in any catalogue; you will at least half a dozen different spellings depending on the cataloguer's native language.
Good point highlighting how Slashdot still doesn't support Unicode in 2014 by the way...
Slashdot BETA doesn't appear to support Unicode either, for that matter.
There's a web-page that can mangle names like what John Travolta did to Idina Menzel by calling her "Adele Dazeem" at the Oscars.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev comes out as Tristan Thompseen
Tamerlan Tsarnayev comes out as Tristan Thozomas
Sometimes they tell the truth; when it is in their best interest.
This. The story may or may not be true, but their willing and demonstrated duplicity in past Congressional reports makes it suspect. Here the story serves their interests by (1) making it seem like it's not really their fault they missed the guy, and (2) making it seem like should grab and harass near-matches and misspellings of peoples' names. It *ALSO* does not say *WHO* misspelled the name when entering it in the database. Because that person should probably be fired.
Obligatory XKCD comic...
http://xkcd.com/327/
"Oh. *looks closely at name on passport* I see you're from Durkadurkastan. Entry denied. Be on the next available flight out or we'll put you on a flight to the beautiful resort village Gitmo instead."
Seems like the misspelling shouldn't have mattered.
Can anybody tell me why Jeff Bauman was taken in A WHEELCHAIR with both lower legs blown off, rather than an ambulance GOING TO HIM?
Talk about stupid and gullible. You're all acting as if this wasn't a false flag event. Please explain - why was he WHEELED away from the scene of the 'bombing' to an ambulance, rather than the ambulance going TO HIM AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS?
This is a failure of the database, which should be tolerant of misspellings, particularly of transliterated names from alternate alphabets. However, it also underscores the issue that "name" is a pretty poor means to identify people. Legitimate names may have multiple spellings, different order based on culture, are prone to miscommunication, are mutable (you can legally change it), are variable (if it doesn't fit in the fields on the form, or you have multiple names, you get to choose what part to use), and they are non-unique. It's further complicated by the ability for forge documents, or take advantage of various local rules about identity documentation. There are many people groups in Africa that give names to their kids, then rename them later in a naming ceremony, often with 4-6 names. Any of them will appear on various bits of legal paperwork at some point.
I'm not saying that it's 100% worthless information, but a name is not a reliable means of identifying an individual, particularly one in a large population. The practice of making name-keyed do-not-fly lists is silly. Ostensibly the list combines name and birth-date, which helps, if that information can be gotten reliably. Even biometric passports can be relatively easily forged today - and screeners are likely to put more faith in them due to the added technology.
So, I guess only people who blindly agree with every policy and excuse every stupid mistake made by every Conservative administration are allowed to call themselves Conservatives?
No true Scotsman, indeed.
The government has had software to deal with alternate spellings of names for years. Either it wasn't very good or never put to use.
While most of your post is spot on there is no way for the TSA to have stopped the 911 attacks since it was formed 2 months after that happened.
So what was the point of harassing people you suspect of being prospective terrorist recruits and then apparently not monitoring their activities closely enough to stop them from actually carrying out an attack? Stopping this guy from getting on a plane would have just pissed him off even more. He was already allowed to live in this country, but the one thing he loved (boxing) was taken from him because he was not a US citizen. Harassing him further... even making him stay here rather than getting on a plane, seems like it would have been a terrible idea. Let him get on a plane to leave the country... and don't let him come back if you think he is a terrorist.
This all presumes that there where actual deaths and actual terrorists, and actual (non-hollywood style) bombs, and that the whole thing was not just a scripted hollywood made-for-tv production in order to set the precident that the millitary can operate domestically and "lock down" an entire city on command. By the way, was interesting they happened to have all that millitary hardware staged right there on-hand...
Someone can just change their name by one letter on their passport and get through a checkpont? Really?
Which reminds me of when I was trying to track down the likely parties involved in that missing $8.7 billion in Iraqi oil funds (kept on account at FRBNY, or the New York Fed, the government contractor was JPMorgan Chase, and the funds, although tenuously overseen by the Ex-Im Bank at Baghdad, were really controlled through the Coalition Provisional Authority, or CPA---Iraq), ascertained that Timothy Geithner was chair of the NY Fed at that time, while his old college roomie and best-friend-forever, Daniel Zelikow was the managing director at JPMC in charge of that contract, while it took quite some time to deduce that Reuben Jeffery III was the CPA guy, as his name was consistently misspelled in government files, reports and sites (Reuben Jefferies, or Reuben Jeffrey, or Jeffrey Reuben, etc.).
Timmy Geithner moved on to be Treasury Secretary, while Danile Zelikow is back at Goldman Sachs and Reuben Jeffery III (former Goldman Sachs dood) became CEO at Rockefeller Financial (replacing the previous CEO who died by suicide, of course, quite a few "suicides" surrounding that entire affair, especially the most bizarre "suicide" of Philip Merrill, who was head of Ex-Im Bank at that time in Iraq, and was about to meet with a journalist?
Dark Questions About a Deadly FBI Interrogation in Orlando
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/24/dark-questions-about-a-deadly-fbi-interrogation-in-orlando/
Two Lawmen, Two Stories of a Boston Marathon Witness Killing
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/26/two-lawmen-two-stories-of-a-boston-marathon-witness-killing/
of course, had we nabbed this guy ahead of time, he'd be a poster child for "government abuse!!11!!" and brought up every time some slashdotter wanted to bolster his kumbaya rainbow pony worldview.
you obviously didn't bother to learn more than the media chose to feed you. While the Starr report had maybe 20 pages of salicious details, the other thousand were about shady payoff details to the Chinese government including dual use technologies for campaign cash, as well as lies under oath.
All the stuff Sandy Berger trousered out of the National Archives, but is still available for anyone with a brain and not into sound bite politics.
But don't let that stop ya from dodging the issue.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9XYoVI0fdqsC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=TECS+soundex&source=bl&ots=UlL1vx8oQK&sig=OTf4ty8uc2iLUhYApTAtAqXyu2w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QHA0U8iyFImthQfn74DYAw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=TECS%20soundex&f=false
No you don't have to blindly agree, nor agree to everything. Blaming the GOP for 9/11 is really dumb though. Are you seriously defending that argument?
The left wing is conservative. The right wing is liberal. The parties have flipped-flopped so many times, it doesn't make sense to use "liberal" or "conservative" to apply to either, as often it depends on the specific issue.
And nobody needs to try to make the conservatives look bad, they do plenty good of that on their own.
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Every time you make a mistake the errorists wins.
The Russian e is pronounced ye. It sounds like a translation problem.
...weren't wasting your resources to snoop on Angela Merkel and to hack Belgacom, this guy would have been caught. You would have worked with FSB to track and nail down the guy before who could do anything wrong.
But you know what ? Wahabist terror was invented by YOU and YOUR friends. It helps the Military Industrial Complex to have 500 billion dollar+ revenue. So, no real interest to extinguish the fire.
Rather, you start new ones all the time. Just recently your stone-age Wahabist friends started a new fire in Syria.
Good Buttfucking, my dear Anglo far-relatives.
Gruesse
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"we can let everybody immigrate and make them part of our armed forces and police. Including muslims. Our pinko-liberal books say so."
FUCK THAT.
Free Advice from Germany.
Actually, he made at least one conservative look good, but you're restoring my faith in yammerheads.
I note that you did not dispute any of the factual points he made, nor did you show how you can avoid reaching the same conclusion.