Let me ask you a very basic question, are you native american?
A small part, yes.
Great, we need to take the voting rights away from people like you.
Good luck. Since my second amendment rights are intact, you'll have a hard time of it.
And what makes you think you would have ever lost your second amendment? Let me guess because Bush and media crew was telling you that?
The Democrats themselves did. Let me throw a few quotes at you...
"We must get rid of all the guns." --Sarah Brady, speaking on behalf of Handgun Control Inc Phil Donahue Show, September 1994
"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step." -- Janet Reno
"I'm convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition -- except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors -- totally illegal." --- Nelson T. `Pete' Shields, Chairman, HCI
"Banning guns is an idea whose time has come." --U.S. Sen. Joseph Biden
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." --U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein
"No, we are not looking at how to control criminals, we are talking about banning the AK47 and semi-automatic guns!" -- U.S. Sen. Howard Metzenbaum
"We're here to tell the NRA their nightmare is true!." "We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" --U.S. Rep. Charles Schumer
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, 'I would have done it" --U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein
When we had a Democrat in the Whitehouse and a Democratically controlled congress it was a very real possibility.
If you've grown tired of losing elections, change your politics.
Not at all. The law didn't pass. Keeping that issue out of the hands of the Democrats helped to keep them from having the bully pulpit of the Whitehouse to push the agenda from.
You're talking about checkers and I'm talking about chess.
The second time, I duhno. I live in a very conservative area (Utah, of all places) and 'everyone else' was voting for him & I'm afraid I didn't give it the thought it required. I did, however, learn a valuable lesson & if you'll forgive me I promise to never make the same mistake again (next I get to vote against Oren Hatch - sorry everyone about him, it's an uphill battle, there).
I make no apologies. I voted for Bush because he was the only real choice for me.
Join the ACLU. Write your politicians. Vote third party. Be vocal in social circles (those of you that venture outside;))
2 out of 4 isn't bad. I will not join the ACLU or support them in any way unless they come about on my two big issues. I haven't seen a third party candidate that is any better than the offerings of the two major parties. When there is one, perhaps he'll get my vote.
No, another reason for the GPL is to keep anyone from taking free software, changing it, and not releasing the changes to the world.
The GPL allows this. You can make changes to GPLed software and not release the changes to the world. If you don't release the binaries, you dan't have to release the code.
I realize that you're trolling me, but I'm going to enjoy making fun of you anyway.
We were hoping all the barefoot, ignorant, bible thumpers who birth people like you would opt for abortion if it was cheap, safe and easy so we wouldn't have to put up with people like you for a lifetime, and even worse you reproduce and teach your kids to think like you so we will never be rid of your kind.
You apparently didn't do proper research. Religious people have a long history of opposing certain methods of birth control. They opposed legal abortion. How could you be so stupid as to think that they'd run out and get them en masse?
If some bigot wanted to rid the world of Muslims and Jews, would he poison the pork supply? No because no one would be that stupid, right? Well, apparently not you.
So the abortion plan backfired. All the intelligent, well educated enlightened people are using contraception and having abortions so they only have one or two kids
Apparently, if the plan didn't work, these people aren't as intelligent as they think they are. Right?
Plan B which hasn't worked so well either...
You're 0 for 2, doesn't sound like your intelligence is what you think it is.
i dont live in america so i dont know what commonly goes on, but do many people defend themselves with hulking great machine guns?
Not usually. Quite rarely in fact. Since 1934 do you know how many legally owned machine guns have been used to commit a crime?
One. An off-duty police officer was working as an assassin for hire. So much for the "Only law enforcement should have these..." argument.
are the police ok with people unleashing a barrage of hot lead from an m-16 if someone breaks into their house?
In most states, as long as you don't hurt anyone else the police are fine with it. Most states have what's called "no duty to retreat" when in your own home. What that means is that if someone has invaded your home you can infer that the person is willing to do physical harm to you or anyone else in the house and that you can use deadly force against such a person without having to exaust every other means first.
In most places in the US, if you break into a house you can expect to have a hole put into you and when the police come they'll thank the homeowner before calling the coroner to take you away.
can you carry a machine gun around in a public place as long as it's hidden under your jacket and you have a license? or is it just pistols?
That depends on the state. A lot of people from other countries have no familiarity with the way laws work in the US, so I understand the confusion. I live in Pennsylvania. I have a "Concealed Weapons Permit" that means that I can legally carry any firearm that I can legall possess as long as it's concealed. It would be stupid for me to carry around a long arm for self defense, but technically it wouldn't be illegal.
On what grounds should the government get involved?
The government has the same right to criminalize abortion that it has to criminalize other forms of homicide.
The only arguments I hear from the right are based on religion.
Then you've only been listening to the ones who get showcased on CNN and Fox news.
How do you plan to raise all of the children who are born to parents who don't want them and/or can't take care of them?
There are years long waiting lists for adoptions. People are even going to other countries because they want to adopt a child. There are more than enough homes for these children.
Also, I believe that we should have government financed contraception available for everyone who wants it.
We'll have fewer unwanted pregnancies if people have free and easy access to contraception.
Badnarik (Libertarian) is pro-life, but believes the government should stay out of it,
That's a pusillanimous stand that functionally is no different than a pro abortion one.
Its about damn time you real conservatives (assuming you are one) got your party in order.
The GOP is not homogeneous. There are so many different groups that have so many different agendas that I don't believe that it's possible to get them all on the same page for every issue.
The only way that they can be alright is if the servers are truely dedicated- no surfing the net, no downloading from P2P, nothing other than hosting torrents. Even computers in the building that aren't servers need to be 'clean.'
I've done some home piracy a time or two and just to be smart, I've never used "work" machines for it. The level of liability is so much higher when dealing with business machines that it's not worth the convienence.
Difference is that it's against the law in the US to be an accessory to the crime of theft.
Apparently accessory to copyright infringement isn't a crime in Sweden.
If an American were to help a Chinese dissident express unpopular views in public, US law enforcement would never arrest the person for violating Chinese law.
But seriously, anyone being executed has already been isolated from the rest of society for a long time, with little danger to the public, so life in prison is clearly an option.
They may not be a danger to the public, but they are dangerous to other inmates and guards. Inmates and staff have been murdered by criminals serving life sentences.
Is that why Bush publicly stated in 2004 that he would sign a bill renewing Bill Clinton's Assault Weapons Ban?
He knew that it never stood a chance of getting out of congress. It was all politics. By saying that, he took an election issue out of the Democrat's hands.
Why just one amendment? Why not the whole Bill of Rights? Maybe even all 27(well, 26 if you don't count the repealed one; 18th) amendments?
Because the other constitutional rights are not under constant assault.
Or the other way of asking... which is the more issue to you; abortion or Bill of Rights?
They are both equally important to me, but if I had no other choice. I'd have to side with the second amendment. Positions on abortion sway quickly, gun rights always require a longer harder fight.
Murderers who are executed can't murder anyone else. I disagree with the Iraq war, I think that it was a horrible idea; But to me it's less important than if I get to pass on second amendment rights to my children or if my tax dollars are used to fund abortions.
I still can't believe we had the opportunity to say goodbye after the first four years but brought him back for four more.
I'm a two time Bush voter. Even with his shorcomings(and he does have many), the other candidate in the general election was even more unpalatable to me.
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A small part, yes.
Great, we need to take the voting rights away from people like you.
Good luck. Since my second amendment rights are intact, you'll have a hard time of it.
And what makes you think you would have ever lost your second amendment? Let me guess because Bush and media crew was telling you that?
The Democrats themselves did. Let me throw a few quotes at you...
--Sarah Brady, speaking on behalf of Handgun Control Inc
Phil Donahue Show, September 1994
-- Janet Reno
--- Nelson T. `Pete' Shields, Chairman, HCI
--U.S. Sen. Joseph Biden
--U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein
and semi-automatic guns!"
-- U.S. Sen. Howard Metzenbaum
anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
--U.S. Rep. Charles Schumer
picking up every one of them... 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,
'I would have done it"
--U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein
When we had a Democrat in the Whitehouse and a Democratically controlled congress it was a very real possibility.
If you've grown tired of losing elections, change your politics.
LK
Kerry being the spineless little git that he is with a Republican House and Senate. What exactly could he have done that's so bad?
Fortunately, we'll never know.
LK
Do you see how this works against your interests?
Not at all. The law didn't pass. Keeping that issue out of the hands of the Democrats helped to keep them from having the bully pulpit of the Whitehouse to push the agenda from.
You're talking about checkers and I'm talking about chess.
LK
What about Bean Farmer Extreme and Nada III?
LK
The second time, I duhno. I live in a very conservative area (Utah, of all places) and 'everyone else' was voting for him & I'm afraid I didn't give it the thought it required. I did, however, learn a valuable lesson & if you'll forgive me I promise to never make the same mistake again (next I get to vote against Oren Hatch - sorry everyone about him, it's an uphill battle, there).
;))
I make no apologies. I voted for Bush because he was the only real choice for me.
Join the ACLU. Write your politicians. Vote third party. Be vocal in social circles (those of you that venture outside
2 out of 4 isn't bad. I will not join the ACLU or support them in any way unless they come about on my two big issues. I haven't seen a third party candidate that is any better than the offerings of the two major parties. When there is one, perhaps he'll get my vote.
LK
You're going to get flamed to hell and back on Slashdot for saying that.
I've been here for a long time. I can take it.
LK
No, another reason for the GPL is to keep anyone from taking free software, changing it, and not releasing the changes to the world.
The GPL allows this. You can make changes to GPLed software and not release the changes to the world. If you don't release the binaries, you dan't have to release the code.
LK
I realize that you're trolling me, but I'm going to enjoy making fun of you anyway.
We were hoping all the barefoot, ignorant, bible thumpers who birth people like you would opt for abortion if it was cheap, safe and easy so we wouldn't have to put up with people like you for a lifetime, and even worse you reproduce and teach your kids to think like you so we will never be rid of your kind.
You apparently didn't do proper research. Religious people have a long history of opposing certain methods of birth control. They opposed legal abortion. How could you be so stupid as to think that they'd run out and get them en masse?
If some bigot wanted to rid the world of Muslims and Jews, would he poison the pork supply? No because no one would be that stupid, right? Well, apparently not you.
So the abortion plan backfired. All the intelligent, well educated enlightened people are using contraception and having abortions so they only have one or two kids
Apparently, if the plan didn't work, these people aren't as intelligent as they think they are. Right?
Plan B which hasn't worked so well either...
You're 0 for 2, doesn't sound like your intelligence is what you think it is.
LK
i dont live in america so i dont know what commonly goes on, but do many people defend themselves with hulking great machine guns?
Not usually. Quite rarely in fact. Since 1934 do you know how many legally owned machine guns have been used to commit a crime?
One. An off-duty police officer was working as an assassin for hire. So much for the "Only law enforcement should have these..." argument.
are the police ok with people unleashing a barrage of hot lead from an m-16 if someone breaks into their house?
In most states, as long as you don't hurt anyone else the police are fine with it. Most states have what's called "no duty to retreat" when in your own home. What that means is that if someone has invaded your home you can infer that the person is willing to do physical harm to you or anyone else in the house and that you can use deadly force against such a person without having to exaust every other means first.
In most places in the US, if you break into a house you can expect to have a hole put into you and when the police come they'll thank the homeowner before calling the coroner to take you away.
can you carry a machine gun around in a public place as long as it's hidden under your jacket and you have a license? or is it just pistols?
That depends on the state. A lot of people from other countries have no familiarity with the way laws work in the US, so I understand the confusion. I live in Pennsylvania. I have a "Concealed Weapons Permit" that means that I can legally carry any firearm that I can legall possess as long as it's concealed. It would be stupid for me to carry around a long arm for self defense, but technically it wouldn't be illegal.
LK
On what grounds should the government get involved?
The government has the same right to criminalize abortion that it has to criminalize other forms of homicide.
The only arguments I hear from the right are based on religion.
Then you've only been listening to the ones who get showcased on CNN and Fox news.
How do you plan to raise all of the children who are born to parents who don't want them and/or can't take care of them?
There are years long waiting lists for adoptions. People are even going to other countries because they want to adopt a child. There are more than enough homes for these children.
Also, I believe that we should have government financed contraception available for everyone who wants it.
We'll have fewer unwanted pregnancies if people have free and easy access to contraception.
LK
Badnarik (Libertarian) is pro-life, but believes the government should stay out of it,
That's a pusillanimous stand that functionally is no different than a pro abortion one.
Its about damn time you real conservatives (assuming you are one) got your party in order.
The GOP is not homogeneous. There are so many different groups that have so many different agendas that I don't believe that it's possible to get them all on the same page for every issue.
LK
The only way that they can be alright is if the servers are truely dedicated- no surfing the net, no downloading from P2P, nothing other than hosting torrents. Even computers in the building that aren't servers need to be 'clean.'
I've done some home piracy a time or two and just to be smart, I've never used "work" machines for it. The level of liability is so much higher when dealing with business machines that it's not worth the convienence.
LK
Difference is that it's against the law in the US to be an accessory to the crime of theft.
Apparently accessory to copyright infringement isn't a crime in Sweden.
If an American were to help a Chinese dissident express unpopular views in public, US law enforcement would never arrest the person for violating Chinese law.
LK
But seriously, anyone being executed has already been isolated from the rest of society for a long time, with little danger to the public, so life in prison is clearly an option.
They may not be a danger to the public, but they are dangerous to other inmates and guards. Inmates and staff have been murdered by criminals serving life sentences.
LK
Is that why Bush publicly stated in 2004 that he would sign a bill renewing Bill Clinton's Assault Weapons Ban?
He knew that it never stood a chance of getting out of congress. It was all politics. By saying that, he took an election issue out of the Democrat's hands.
LK
What the hell kind of good does it do to vote for the pro-gun candidate when he eviscerates everything else the country is supposed to have stood for?
If you don't like the way we vote, give us another alternative.
LK
Why just one amendment? Why not the whole Bill of Rights? Maybe even all 27(well, 26 if you don't count the repealed one; 18th) amendments?
Because the other constitutional rights are not under constant assault.
Or the other way of asking... which is the more issue to you; abortion or Bill of Rights?
They are both equally important to me, but if I had no other choice. I'd have to side with the second amendment. Positions on abortion sway quickly, gun rights always require a longer harder fight.
LK
Murderers who are executed can't murder anyone else.
I disagree with the Iraq war, I think that it was a horrible idea; But to me it's less important than if I get to pass on second amendment rights to my children or if my tax dollars are used to fund abortions.
LK
Pick all of the nits that you want, Bush won for these reasons.
If the Democrats courted instead of demonizing us, they'd have the Whitehouse and Congress.
LK
You got what you voted for. Thanks.
Yes, I did. An executive branch that is pro second amendment and pro life.
You're welcome.
LK
It's always refreshing to see someone who blatantly admits that money is much more important than human rights, free speech and privacy.
I can and will only vote for candidates who are both pro life and pro second amendment.
LK
I still can't believe we had the opportunity to say goodbye after the first four years but brought him back for four more.
I'm a two time Bush voter. Even with his shorcomings(and he does have many), the other candidate in the general election was even more unpalatable to me.
LK
Observant muslims usually take the Kosher meal because the rules of Kosher and the rules of Halal are close enough to one another.
LK
Evil against Evil. Although I'd argue that since Intel doesn't sell the organs of executed political prisoners, they are the lesser evil.
So, I guess that makes Intel the Jason in this conflict.
LK
In MY day, we had to actually get chicks drunk at parties. Now, these kids just have to press a button.
LK