After the 386 there was the 486. After the 486, Intel changed their naming scheme ( I remember hearing something about not being able to trademark numbers or something) to PENTium. To illustrate the similarity between the chips AMD released the K5. PENT=5...
Pentium 2, or in other words ((Pentium 1) + 1), if the K5 is the same as the (Pentium 1) then the ((K5)+1) would be the K6. The Pentium III or the ((Pentium 1) + 2), would be the same as the (K5) + 2) or the K7.
Although they moved up to the K7, they continued production of K6 based chips, K6-2, and K6-3 are newer revisions of the K6 core. Just don't ask me why they chose the letter 'K'.
The studies did NOTHING to prove a causation, ie: Napster usage CAUSED the people to buy more CDs. It just proved a correlation, ie: people who use Napster buy more CDs than those who don't.
Although I cannot stand the RIAA, the more I think about it something just seems wrong about Napster making a profit off of someone elses work.
Like, oh let's see, Amazon.com? Yahoo? Ebay?
If those studies about Napster users buying MORE music than the average consumer are true then there is nothing wrong with Napster making money on providing a service.
If Napster was not doing this is for profit, then it would be an easier case for me. But with Napster doing this as a business, it seems fair that the record companies should get a cut; even if they don't really deserve any more money.
If the information that I referred to earlier is accurate, then the RIAA and the individual record companies ARE getting a cut. They benefit fromNapster's use.
I can't speak for every techie out there, but as for myself, I'm VERY politically oriented. I registered to vote right after I turned 18. I've voted in every election since then(Both national and local). I've collected signatures for certain causes I believe in.
Not only did I study it, but I actually took a class on the US Constitution. I want to know how things work, and why they work the way that they do. I think that what holds back "geeks" from being a political force is that we all have such wide ranging beliefs on social and fiscal issues.
I happen to be a Republican. One of those right wing guys that Peter Jennings likes to talk badly about. I know many geeks who are further to the right than I am, I also know just as many that are to the left of even Ralph Nader.
What is there to tie us together? Nothing, that I can see.
The gun rights people have something that ties them together. The abortion rights people have their common bond. The environmentalists have their agenda. You name any special interest's group and they have something that they ALL believe in.
What do we all believe in? We can't even agree on Napster.
My problem is a dependance on Openfirmware and 603 or higher processors. Most of my PPC hardware either doesn't have open firmware because it's Nubus(Power Computing Power 120, and two 6100s) or doesn't have a 603 or higher processor (7200/120).
I've been using the internet since the early 90's. When I first got my account on the Un*x box at the University. I had to call into the RS6000 with my 2400 baud modem to gopher, ftp and telnet.
You sound like one of those annoying cigar smokers who bitches because he got dirty looks from people 15 years ago before cigars were chic and now everyone is smoking cigars.
No, I wasn't here in the early days. The fact that I was born in the 70s made that impossible. Just because I haven't gone grey and and still have all of the hair on top of my head makes no difference.
I don't care whether or not you happen to like the fact that I'm saying it, but when everyone and their mother starting listing their web addresses at the bottom of TV commercials and when AOL adoped the flat rate fee for access is when the signal to noise ratio went in the crapper.
Do you think that the dominance of Wintel over Apple was due to technological superiority or because of Steve Jobs's ego getting in the way of good business decisions?
Yesterday my Grandmother mentioned to me the Napster case. She's by no means a techie and she didn't understand many of the details of the ruling, but it took me nearly 10 minutes to describe to her that Napster wasn't the only game in town.
People think that Napster is the only thing out there. Just like many users of a certain three initial ISP seem to think that there is no other way to get connected to the internet.
Maybe this will be good for us over all. Without the attention of the clueless newbies we can hold onto (at least for a moment) that feeling that we had when the internet was OURS. Before the great boom of 1995-1997.
People are clueless in general. The American public isone of the worst. In fact, it makes me ashamed for my countrymen.
From the misconceptions and misinformation that Napster is an "MP3 Swapping Web Site" to the pure ignorance of the belief that "Cop Killer" bullets can be shot through the blade of a bulldozer, people don't care about accuracy of information as long as it's entertaining.
Last semester, I had a professor who tried to convinve me that nobody had ever thought the world to be flat. His reasoning was that since people could see that the Earth's shadow was round, they couldn't have possibly thought that the earth was flat. My response, "A Quarter is both flat and round." A few people in the class actually laughed.
Back to my original point, you can't expect government officials to be any less clueless than society at large.
You've just made my case for me. You are an individual user. Your ISP is not responsible for things that you do without their knowledge.
If you serve up copyrighted material against the copyright holders wishes, you've broken the law. But it's not your ISP's obligation to check the contents of every computer which gets its internet access through their network.
The individual USERS of Napster have to worry about whether or nor their hosting legal files. Napster does not.
Some copyright holders don't care if their material is shared. So it's not a matter of blocking ALL users who traffic in copyrighted material. That's why the burden falls to the copyright holder.
For example, I hold the copyright to the entire contents of this message, but I don't mind if people make copies of it and share it for free. By your logic, if you reply to this message and quote any part of it you should lose your/. account.
It's more like a chap on the street pointing you to the dealers who provide cocaine, which legally can NOT be sold in the US.
More like someone saying "Hey this bar three blocks south and one block east of here is great. You can ALWAYS meet women there." He could mean prostitutes, or he could mean sluts. Prostitution is illegal, being a slut is not.
When then do the telephone book publishers become accessories to the solicitation of prostitution? We all KNOW what "Massage Parlor" and "Escort Service" mean. Yet you'll find pages and pages of them in your local yellow pages.
I don't understand why people don't seem to get this. They provide a service that can be used for either legal or illegal purposes. When someone is reported for using the service illegally, they terminate the account. What more do they need to do?
If you go to your local head shop and you ask to see the bongs you will be told that they don't cary aany drug paraphernalia. If you ask to see one of their water-pipes, you will be shown the best smoking accesories that they have. Once you've got your water-pipe, it's your responsibility to use it in a legal manner.
Or think of a pet store. If you go in and buy one hamster or gerbil per week, pretty soon they're going to wise up and stop selling them to you. If you ask for a shaved hamster, they're going to throw you out.
It's up to YOU, the user/client/patron to do the right/legal thing with any product/service. It is not the responsibility of the service/widget provider to insure that you walk the straight and narrow path. I don't care if it's easier to do it that way, it's still not right.
Yeah you should prepare for the day when the UN is going to come in with guns and kill you.
First off, you stupid bastard, I was talking about making preparations to keep our data and methods of communication secure. Strong Crypto and such.
Or you could of course wake up to the fact that other countries without guns are not having any problems.
Like Australia, which saw a surge in their crime rate after their most recent gun ban? Or how about 1930s-1940s Europe, gun bans kept those people safe didn't they?
What is it with you people that every discussion about the power of the people versus the power of corporate and government interests must degenerate into a dialog about how evil guns are?
No, you dumb ass. Sound travels faster through water. Sound travels as a compression wave, a compression wave can travel faster through a denser substance. Sound travels very rapidly through a solid piece of steel.
When they took the first amendment, you didn't care because you had nothing unpopular to say.
When they took the second amandment, you didn't care because you didn't own a gun.
When they took the fourth amendment, you didn't care because you had nothing to hide.
When they took the fifth amendment, you didn't care because you weren't guilty.
When they took the sixth amendment, you didn't care because you weren't waiting for a trial.
When they took the eighth amendment, you didn't care because you'd never been arrested nor convicted of anything.
When they took the ninth amendment, you didn't care because as long as you had your job and a place to live you didn't need any other "rights".
When they took the tenth amendment, you didn't care because you're not concerned with national politics or state's rights.
But you actually get up and arms when the corporate suits come after your SOFTWARE? Give me a break.
We must fight the good fight, we must do everything that we can to win. However, we must also be prepared to lose. We must have plans in effect just in case things don't go our way.
Stuff like this is going to make the boys at havenco VERY rich some day.
"Reese, Sgt. Tech-Com DN38416 assigned to protect you, you've been targeted for termination."
"Cyborgs don't feel pain. I do. Don't do that again. Listen, and understand! That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever! Until you are dead."
Slashdot Mirror
I'd say that you give them a loose set of rules.
It has to use TCP/IP, and it has to be easily portable to multiple OSes.
Wish list features to include download resuming, searching the host for certain file names, a GUI, chat while downloading, and et cetera.
If the program ever happens to make it into widespread use, I'd like to see the RIAA try to sue a bunch of high school kids over their school project.
LK
I have a problem with that as well. If mankind evolved from monkeys because of some adaptation, why then do monkeys still exist?
After the 386 there was the 486. After the 486, Intel changed their naming scheme ( I remember hearing something about not being able to trademark numbers or something) to PENTium. To illustrate the similarity between the chips AMD released the K5. PENT=5...
Pentium 2, or in other words ((Pentium 1) + 1), if the K5 is the same as the (Pentium 1) then the ((K5)+1) would be the K6. The Pentium III or the ((Pentium 1) + 2), would be the same as the (K5) + 2) or the K7.
Although they moved up to the K7, they continued production of K6 based chips, K6-2, and K6-3 are newer revisions of the K6 core. Just don't ask me why they chose the letter 'K'.
I don't understand your confusion.
LK
The studies did NOTHING to prove a causation, ie: Napster usage CAUSED the people to buy more CDs. It just proved a correlation, ie: people who use Napster buy more CDs than those who don't.
= pr000721
http://www.jup.com/company/pressrelease.jsp?doc
Thank you.
Although I cannot stand the RIAA, the more I think about it something just seems wrong about Napster making a profit off of someone elses work.
Like, oh let's see, Amazon.com? Yahoo? Ebay?
If those studies about Napster users buying MORE music than the average consumer are true then there is nothing wrong with Napster making money on providing a service.
If Napster was not doing this is for profit, then it would be an easier case for me. But with Napster doing this as a business, it seems fair that the record companies should get a cut; even if they don't really deserve any more money.
If the information that I referred to earlier is accurate, then the RIAA and the individual record companies ARE getting a cut. They benefit fromNapster's use.
LK
I can't speak for every techie out there, but as for myself, I'm VERY politically oriented. I registered to vote right after I turned 18. I've voted in every election since then(Both national and local). I've collected signatures for certain causes I believe in.
Not only did I study it, but I actually took a class on the US Constitution. I want to know how things work, and why they work the way that they do. I think that what holds back "geeks" from being a political force is that we all have such wide ranging beliefs on social and fiscal issues.
I happen to be a Republican. One of those right wing guys that Peter Jennings likes to talk badly about. I know many geeks who are further to the right than I am, I also know just as many that are to the left of even Ralph Nader.
What is there to tie us together? Nothing, that I can see.
The gun rights people have something that ties them together. The abortion rights people have their common bond. The environmentalists have their agenda. You name any special interest's group and they have something that they ALL believe in.
What do we all believe in? We can't even agree on Napster.
LK
My problem is a dependance on Openfirmware and 603 or higher processors. Most of my PPC hardware either doesn't have open firmware because it's Nubus(Power Computing Power 120, and two 6100s) or doesn't have a 603 or higher processor (7200/120).
I'm stuck with MKLinux if I want a Linux distro.
LK
You mean to tell me that in 1985 you were getting 4 or more "Get Rich Now, ask me how." e-mails per day?
LK
I'll say it again, when AOL introduced the flat rate fee for connectivity is when the signal to noise ration on the net really went in the crapper.
I wasn't here in the 70s. Virtually none of us were. What's more important to you, the veracity of the claim or the one who is making it?
I've been using the internet since the early 90's. When I first got my account on the Un*x box at the University. I had to call into the RS6000 with my 2400 baud modem to gopher, ftp and telnet.
You sound like one of those annoying cigar smokers who bitches because he got dirty looks from people 15 years ago before cigars were chic and now everyone is smoking cigars.
No, I wasn't here in the early days. The fact that I was born in the 70s made that impossible. Just because I haven't gone grey and and still have all of the hair on top of my head makes no difference.
I don't care whether or not you happen to like the fact that I'm saying it, but when everyone and their mother starting listing their web addresses at the bottom of TV commercials and when AOL adoped the flat rate fee for access is when the signal to noise ratio went in the crapper.
Do you think that the dominance of Wintel over Apple was due to technological superiority or because of Steve Jobs's ego getting in the way of good business decisions?
LK
Yesterday my Grandmother mentioned to me the Napster case. She's by no means a techie and she didn't understand many of the details of the ruling, but it took me nearly 10 minutes to describe to her that Napster wasn't the only game in town.
People think that Napster is the only thing out there. Just like many users of a certain three initial ISP seem to think that there is no other way to get connected to the internet.
Maybe this will be good for us over all. Without the attention of the clueless newbies we can hold onto (at least for a moment) that feeling that we had when the internet was OURS. Before the great boom of 1995-1997.
LK
People are clueless in general. The American public isone of the worst. In fact, it makes me ashamed for my countrymen.
From the misconceptions and misinformation that Napster is an "MP3 Swapping Web Site" to the pure ignorance of the belief that "Cop Killer" bullets can be shot through the blade of a bulldozer, people don't care about accuracy of information as long as it's entertaining.
Last semester, I had a professor who tried to convinve me that nobody had ever thought the world to be flat. His reasoning was that since people could see that the Earth's shadow was round, they couldn't have possibly thought that the earth was flat. My response, "A Quarter is both flat and round." A few people in the class actually laughed.
Back to my original point, you can't expect government officials to be any less clueless than society at large.
LK
You've just made my case for me. You are an individual user. Your ISP is not responsible for things that you do without their knowledge.
If you serve up copyrighted material against the copyright holders wishes, you've broken the law. But it's not your ISP's obligation to check the contents of every computer which gets its internet access through their network.
The individual USERS of Napster have to worry about whether or nor their hosting legal files. Napster does not.
LK
Since today is Wednesday, I recommend Nigro's Restaurant and Lounge. There will be wall to wall sluts there tonight.
Route 148 in North Versailles. Approximately 15 miles from downtown Pittsburgh.
Some copyright holders don't care if their material is shared. So it's not a matter of blocking ALL users who traffic in copyrighted material. That's why the burden falls to the copyright holder.
/. account.
For example, I hold the copyright to the entire contents of this message, but I don't mind if people make copies of it and share it for free. By your logic, if you reply to this message and quote any part of it you should lose your
LK
Actually, hamsters and gerbils are perfectly good snake food. They'd probably assume that's what you were using them for.
Mice and Rats are cheaper. They'd know why you're buying them.
LK
It's more like a chap on the street pointing you to the dealers who provide cocaine, which legally can NOT be sold in the US.
More like someone saying "Hey this bar three blocks south and one block east of here is great. You can ALWAYS meet women there." He could mean prostitutes, or he could mean sluts. Prostitution is illegal, being a slut is not.
When then do the telephone book publishers become accessories to the solicitation of prostitution? We all KNOW what "Massage Parlor" and "Escort Service" mean. Yet you'll find pages and pages of them in your local yellow pages.
LK
I don't understand why people don't seem to get this. They provide a service that can be used for either legal or illegal purposes. When someone is reported for using the service illegally, they terminate the account. What more do they need to do?
If you go to your local head shop and you ask to see the bongs you will be told that they don't cary aany drug paraphernalia. If you ask to see one of their water-pipes, you will be shown the best smoking accesories that they have. Once you've got your water-pipe, it's your responsibility to use it in a legal manner.
Or think of a pet store. If you go in and buy one hamster or gerbil per week, pretty soon they're going to wise up and stop selling them to you. If you ask for a shaved hamster, they're going to throw you out.
It's up to YOU, the user/client/patron to do the right/legal thing with any product/service. It is not the responsibility of the service/widget provider to insure that you walk the straight and narrow path. I don't care if it's easier to do it that way, it's still not right.
LK
The "Don't let the boss find out" clause.
LK
Yeah you should prepare for the day when the UN is going to come in with guns and kill you.
First off, you stupid bastard, I was talking about making preparations to keep our data and methods of communication secure. Strong Crypto and such.
Or you could of course wake up to the fact that other countries without guns are not having any problems.
Like Australia, which saw a surge in their crime rate after their most recent gun ban? Or how about 1930s-1940s Europe, gun bans kept those people safe didn't they?
What is it with you people that every discussion about the power of the people versus the power of corporate and government interests must degenerate into a dialog about how evil guns are?
LK
No, you dumb ass. Sound travels faster through water. Sound travels as a compression wave, a compression wave can travel faster through a denser substance. Sound travels very rapidly through a solid piece of steel.
Take a physics class.
LK
When they took the first amendment, you didn't care because you had nothing unpopular to say.
When they took the second amandment, you didn't care because you didn't own a gun.
When they took the fourth amendment, you didn't care because you had nothing to hide.
When they took the fifth amendment, you didn't care because you weren't guilty.
When they took the sixth amendment, you didn't care because you weren't waiting for a trial.
When they took the eighth amendment, you didn't care because you'd never been arrested nor convicted of anything.
When they took the ninth amendment, you didn't care because as long as you had your job and a place to live you didn't need any other "rights".
When they took the tenth amendment, you didn't care because you're not concerned with national politics or state's rights.
But you actually get up and arms when the corporate suits come after your SOFTWARE? Give me a break.
We must fight the good fight, we must do everything that we can to win. However, we must also be prepared to lose. We must have plans in effect just in case things don't go our way.
Stuff like this is going to make the boys at havenco VERY rich some day.
LK
How's this...
"Reese, Sgt. Tech-Com DN38416 assigned to protect you, you've been targeted for termination."
"Cyborgs don't feel pain. I do. Don't do that again. Listen, and understand! That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear, and it absolutely will not stop. Ever! Until you are dead."
Tada
LK
Arnold was the T-800, Cyberdyne System's Model 101. Living flesh over a hyper-alloy combat chassis. Fully armored, very tough.
Robert Patrick was the T-1000. A mimetec poly-alloy, liquid metal terminator.
LK