I'd be interested in being able to get the 24/7 talk radio channel. I can listen to all of the greats, and the not so greats without having to be interrupted by baseball or soccer games.
How much support do you think USB would have gotten if the iMac had serial ports?
What is wrong with serial and SCSI? Why was the USB transition necessary? Nothing is wrong. It wasn't.
Hmm - we use serial, and get the entire macintosh market, or we use USB, and only get the iMacs.
Um, think about what you just said. If the iMac had been introduced with USB and serial the thought would have been "We can get EVERY mac on the market with this peripheral or just the iMacs". In reality the peripheral makers said "We can get EVERY mac on the market with this peripheral or just the iMacs".
Same dilemma either way. The only difference is that the consumer wouldn't have been screwed.
There was no transition from the Apple II to the Macintosh. They were two completely distinct product lines that coexisted for quite a long time together.
There was a transition(if memory serves correctly was in the late 80s/early 90s) around the time of the LC. Apple just stopped making II/IIIs. To help the people out Apple made and sold the IIe card for the LCs.
These were people with $20,000+ Avid systems to $2000 Radius Video Vision or Targa 2000 cards...
They managed fine, but your ISDN and scanner prevent you from buying their machines...
I am not a multimillion dollar business. I can't afford to drop that kind of money everytime some Apple exec gets a wild hair on his ass.
Apple did a great job at it, i don't know why you're complaining.
Apple does a great job of fucking us over and you don't understand why I don't like it? What if you get pulled over at a DUI checkpoint and before they let you go the cops do a great job of smacking you around
I can't fathom your stance of "i won't buy a new mac until OS X is out."
Then I guess you didn't buy a new mac with the expectation of running Rhapsody on it only to find out that Rhapsody was scrapped and OS X will only run on G3 based computers. Thank you buy no thank you Apple. I can buy an Athlon/Thunderbird/PIII and run virtually any version of Linux on it that I want.
But you'll let them off the hook and buy their hardware once they produce the software you want? Makes no sense.
You've apparantly never encountered an OS upgrade that breaks your programs and your device drivers. You obviously don't have over $1000 invested in legacy peripherals like I do. When Apple dons a BSDish hat, the application incompatibility problem should allbut disappear.
I'll think about giving Apple my money again when that happens.
Apple has a long history of changing hardware with no legacy support. and if you ask me it's for the better. look at the state of windows after 10 years of legacy hardware support
Aside from the Apple II/III to the Macintosh change there has been nothing as extreme from the beige to the see through change in hardware compatibility.
There's nothing wrong with keeping support for legacy devices as long as you don't break any of the new features to do it. For example, Colt still makes essentially the same Peacemaker that they made over 100 years ago. That doesn't interfere with incorporatig new metalurgical innovations though.
Maybe when OS X is out I'll reconsider, but untill then I'll just spend my money on my Linux/Gaming computers.
I've given up on buying any of Apple's new hardware at least until AFTER OS X is the "mainstream" Mac OS.
From 1990 through 1999 I was an avid Mac head. I still have my Mac Plus as well as a couple of other Macs and a Mac clone.
Apple's new policy of "We'll do it and MAKE them like it" has turned me off. Apple rendered many of my peripherals useless with their new hardware design. My ISDN "modem" is useless to me on a see-through mac. I have to buy a SCSI card to use my scanner on one of those new pieces of crap.
I take it personally. Apple WAS great. They've changed, they've become no different than any of the other corporate money machines that cares firstly about the bottom line than pleasing their customers.
I don't understand why the guys from MacOS rumors think that it's OK for Apple to act like a bully about this stuff.
Do you forsee a time when there will be a cease fire between proponents of Debian(and it's children) and the proponents of RedHat(and it's children) as it relates to LSB compliance and interoperability between.debs and.rpms?
Is when porno sites use the above lock in technique in conjunction with java scripts to cause a window explosion.
The link will look like "http://www.randompornsite.com/movies/excellent.mp g" but when you click on it, instead of the mpg, you get 12 windows flying open all over the screen.
The arguement could be made that it is the documentation which is being sold. Or possibly even 30/180/whatever days of tech support are being sold and the linux distro is just thrown in for free so that the actual item being sold isn't useless.
Is that teachers aren't properly educated as to what's going on in the world of computers.
These teachers go to school for 4-5 years learning what? How to teach! The teachers themselves can barely understand what's going on with the computers.
I do tech work at a school district in a Pittsburgh suburb, and if what I've seen is typical, then it's completely understandable that kids aren't learning anything more than button pushing in school.
I've had teachers fill out work request forms for their computers and when I go to take a look, the problem is that THE KEYBOARD IS UNPLUGGED! Or the power cord is not plugged in! Or the monitor isn't plugged into the computer.
The teachers who have no clue come in many different varieties, the ones which I detest most are 1. The 'pretty girls'. They have this "I'm just a girl, tee hee" attitude and don't care how ignorant they are. 2. The almost retired. They have the "I'm outta here in 5 more years so screw this learning new stuff crap." attitude. 3. The administrators. "I make $100,000 per year so I don't need to understand a fucking thing."
The people in charge of the school can barely turn the computers on and use them, how in the world do you expect them to be able to teach kids how?
Did it occur to you that perhaps Sodakar has an opinion based on a sense of right/wrong, and doesn't care about the details of laws he/she doesn't agree with?
So, like I said. He feels the way that he feels and doesn't want to let the facts, or reality, get in the way.
what you said, in other words, is: I feel it is my duty to define what other people mean by their statements and pass arbitrary judgements on them.
You stupid bastard. The 9th Curcuit Court of appeal isn't the 9th court that hears your case. It's based upon geopgraphical jurisdiction. The 9th Circuit covers one area and the 11th Ciruit covers another area.....
All a link is a piece of data identifying another page -- it's no different than a popup window.
Sure it is, you have direct control over what is in your popup windows. You have no control of what happens on the other end of a link.
Remember that PETA decision from a few days ago. Let's say that you have a link to HALO.org (the Handicapped Animal Lovers Of America) because you support their agenda. They forget to pay their bill to their registrar and someone else snatches it up and then launches a site based upon the Historical Anal LoveLife Of Aristotle. How can you be responsible for that? Can someone sue you because their kid happened to follow your link and get traumatized when he sees explicit pictures of a re-enactment of Aristotle's penchant for, um YOU KNOW?
If it's illegal to link to objectionable content, how long will it be before it's illegal to link to someone who then in turn links to objectionable content.
It could possibly lead to the RIAA suing yahoo, because yahoo links to "Joe Schmuckatelli's house of useless information", Joe links to "Hiram Lipschitz's big ass audiophile playhouse", and Hiram in turn links to "Leroy Jones's stereo equipment world" which then has links to "Sean O'Brien's MP3 universe" which has some illegal MP3s. Since out of everyone involved yahoo has the deepest pockets, you know who'd get sued.
Good grief! So, you find it impossible that ANY white man can respect a black man. Is that what you are saying?
Not at all. Have you ever heard Limbaugh speak of justice Thomas? There is immense respect there. In fact Limbaugh asked justice Thomas to perform his wedding.
I just find it impossible that the boobs that the DNC parades around to show that they're "down with" the black community could be respected by them.
McCain is an example of someone who is truly his own man, and the GOP bigwigs cannot STAND the thought of him being the President. Because they cannot control him.
The reason GW cleaned McCain's clock is because McCain is only a fiscal conservative. He did himself in with his comments on abortion, and other social issues. Let us not even mention McCain's temper tantrum when he lost.
A "man" who, without his father helping him with every step of his life, would be a nobody.
It wasn't his dad that got him his current job, it was a majority of the people of Texas.
First off. Being a liberal hater doesn't necessitate one have any particular skin color.
The last time I checked J. C. Watts and Rush Limbaugh had VERY different skin colors. Both are staunch conservatives. Please quit propagating the great lie.
The right to create a parody is protected. Peeople for the Eating of Tasty Animals can in no way be confused with the animal rights nuts so there is no way they there could be any confusion in the mind of any reasonable person.
The anti-cybersquatting act was a bad idea. Have you heard about verizonreallysucks.com? This law is all about giving power to big money organizations and businesses.
You're missing the boat. Let's say that apple, forgets to pay their bill on apple.com and I buy it at auction and set up an e-commerce site for selling fruit. A judge would be within the letter of the law to make me give it back to Apple.
Absolutely. You may have had some jerks as instructors, but that doesn't mean that everyone in the field is just as bad.
What I have a problem with are the pervasive hidden agendas, the constant assumption of spiritual truths.
I've never encountered anyone who hid his or her motives in the field of martial arts. Teachers who wish to to insure that their pupils will be peaceful, generally good people say so from the first time you walk through the door.
I don't feel that everybody who wants a workout without religion should be relegated to "an aerobics class".
Then they can go jogging. It's an instructors duty to impart information about right and wrong to his pupils.
If someone wants to learn how to defend themselves (e.g. a teenage girl doesn't want to get raped, an old man doesn't want to get mugged, a football player wants to keep in shape during the off-season), they should be able to do so without having spiritual values forced upon them.
Have you ever heard of pepper spray? Have you ever heard of a kabuto? How about a concealed weapons permit? The efforts of the lazy or the uninterested to distill out "the important parts" from things that they have no understanding of or respect for have lead us to innovations such as AOL and the like.
There is no one who can force you to believe something. If your teacher's beliefs contradict your own, you are free to cast his beliefs aside.
But I'm done arguing with you.
Fine. We're both set in our beliefs and no amount of arguing will change that.
Obviously I'm assaulting your religious sensibilities
I've never mentioned my religious beliefs. You are making assumptions.
Someone who has learned the techniques without learning the discipline can be as dangerous as a 4 year old with an uzi.
Read the Peta decision from a day or two back. The Anti-Cybersquatting" act gives a judge the power to take your domain away and give it to someone who has a copyright on it.
As I understand it, the scenario that you described is exactly the wya it happened with Peta and mtd.com, but the judge still took the domain.
Look at that peta decision. Lets say I buy one of these domains at auction. NetSol gets my cash. The former owner sues me because he has a copyright on that domain and a judge forces me to give it to him. So I just lost whatever I paid to buy it at auction, my fee to NetSol, AND however much I paid content creators for their work.
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I'd be interested in being able to get the 24/7 talk radio channel. I can listen to all of the greats, and the not so greats without having to be interrupted by baseball or soccer games.
LK
How much support do you think USB would have gotten if the iMac had serial ports?
What is wrong with serial and SCSI? Why was the USB transition necessary? Nothing is wrong. It wasn't.
Hmm - we use serial, and get the entire macintosh market, or we use USB, and only get the iMacs.
Um, think about what you just said. If the iMac had been introduced with USB and serial the thought would have been "We can get EVERY mac on the market with this peripheral or just the iMacs". In reality the peripheral makers said "We can get EVERY mac on the market with this peripheral or just the iMacs".
Same dilemma either way. The only difference is that the consumer wouldn't have been screwed.
LK
There was no transition from the Apple II to the Macintosh. They were two completely distinct product lines that coexisted for quite a long time together.
There was a transition(if memory serves correctly was in the late 80s/early 90s) around the time of the LC. Apple just stopped making II/IIIs. To help the people out Apple made and sold the IIe card for the LCs.
These were people with $20,000+ Avid systems to $2000 Radius Video Vision or Targa 2000 cards...
They managed fine, but your ISDN and scanner prevent you from buying their machines...
I am not a multimillion dollar business. I can't afford to drop that kind of money everytime some Apple exec gets a wild hair on his ass.
LK
Apple did a great job at it, i don't know why you're complaining.
Apple does a great job of fucking us over and you don't understand why I don't like it? What if you get pulled over at a DUI checkpoint and before they let you go the cops do a great job of smacking you around
I can't fathom your stance of "i won't buy a new mac until OS X is out."
Then I guess you didn't buy a new mac with the expectation of running Rhapsody on it only to find out that Rhapsody was scrapped and OS X will only run on G3 based computers. Thank you buy no thank you Apple. I can buy an Athlon/Thunderbird/PIII and run virtually any version of Linux on it that I want.
But you'll let them off the hook and buy their hardware once they produce the software you want? Makes no sense.
You've apparantly never encountered an OS upgrade that breaks your programs and your device drivers. You obviously don't have over $1000 invested in legacy peripherals like I do. When Apple dons a BSDish hat, the application incompatibility problem should allbut disappear.
I'll think about giving Apple my money again when that happens.
LK
Apple has a long history of changing hardware with no legacy support. and if you ask me it's for the better. look at the state of windows after 10 years of legacy hardware support
Aside from the Apple II/III to the Macintosh change there has been nothing as extreme from the beige to the see through change in hardware compatibility.
There's nothing wrong with keeping support for legacy devices as long as you don't break any of the new features to do it. For example, Colt still makes essentially the same Peacemaker that they made over 100 years ago. That doesn't interfere with incorporatig new metalurgical innovations though.
Maybe when OS X is out I'll reconsider, but untill then I'll just spend my money on my Linux/Gaming computers.
LK
I've given up on buying any of Apple's new hardware at least until AFTER OS X is the "mainstream" Mac OS.
From 1990 through 1999 I was an avid Mac head. I still have my Mac Plus as well as a couple of other Macs and a Mac clone.
Apple's new policy of "We'll do it and MAKE them like it" has turned me off. Apple rendered many of my peripherals useless with their new hardware design. My ISDN "modem" is useless to me on a see-through mac. I have to buy a SCSI card to use my scanner on one of those new pieces of crap.
I take it personally. Apple WAS great. They've changed, they've become no different than any of the other corporate money machines that cares firstly about the bottom line than pleasing their customers.
I don't understand why the guys from MacOS rumors think that it's OK for Apple to act like a bully about this stuff.
LK
Do you forsee a time when there will be a cease fire between proponents of Debian(and it's children) and the proponents of RedHat(and it's children) as it relates to LSB compliance and interoperability between .debs and .rpms?
LK
Is when porno sites use the above lock in technique in conjunction with java scripts to cause a window explosion.
p g" but when you click on it, instead of the mpg, you get 12 windows flying open all over the screen.
The link will look like "http://www.randompornsite.com/movies/excellent.m
LK
The arguement could be made that it is the documentation which is being sold. Or possibly even 30/180/whatever days of tech support are being sold and the linux distro is just thrown in for free so that the actual item being sold isn't useless.
LK
IANAL, but I think that the shield that the GPL has is that there can be no "secondary sales" because there was no "primary sale".
LK
Is that teachers aren't properly educated as to what's going on in the world of computers.
These teachers go to school for 4-5 years learning what? How to teach! The teachers themselves can barely understand what's going on with the computers.
I do tech work at a school district in a Pittsburgh suburb, and if what I've seen is typical, then it's completely understandable that kids aren't learning anything more than button pushing in school.
I've had teachers fill out work request forms for their computers and when I go to take a look, the problem is that THE KEYBOARD IS UNPLUGGED! Or the power cord is not plugged in! Or the monitor isn't plugged into the computer.
The teachers who have no clue come in many different varieties, the ones which I detest most are
1. The 'pretty girls'. They have this "I'm just a girl, tee hee" attitude and don't care how ignorant they are.
2. The almost retired. They have the "I'm outta here in 5 more years so screw this learning new stuff crap." attitude.
3. The administrators. "I make $100,000 per year so I don't need to understand a fucking thing."
The people in charge of the school can barely turn the computers on and use them, how in the world do you expect them to be able to teach kids how?
LK
Did it occur to you that perhaps Sodakar has an opinion based on a sense of right/wrong, and doesn't care about the details of laws he/she doesn't agree with?
So, like I said. He feels the way that he feels and doesn't want to let the facts, or reality, get in the way.
what you said, in other words, is: I feel it is my duty to define what other people mean by their statements and pass arbitrary judgements on them.
That's pretty much it.
LK
You stupid bastard. The 9th Curcuit Court of appeal isn't the 9th court that hears your case. It's based upon geopgraphical jurisdiction. The 9th Circuit covers one area and the 11th Ciruit covers another area.....
LK
and don't bother to correct me, as I don't know/care about the details
IOW: I feel the say that I feel and I don't care if I'm a baby who is basing my opinion on nohting factual. Leave me and my little dream world alone.
I don't know much about the ARM family of processors. How does a 233mhz ARM compare to, for example, a 233mhz Pentium II?
LK
All a link is a piece of data identifying another page -- it's no different than a popup window.
Sure it is, you have direct control over what is in your popup windows. You have no control of what happens on the other end of a link.
Remember that PETA decision from a few days ago. Let's say that you have a link to HALO.org (the Handicapped Animal Lovers Of America) because you support their agenda. They forget to pay their bill to their registrar and someone else snatches it up and then launches a site based upon the Historical Anal LoveLife Of Aristotle. How can you be responsible for that? Can someone sue you because their kid happened to follow your link and get traumatized when he sees explicit pictures of a re-enactment of Aristotle's penchant for, um YOU KNOW?
LK
You've nailed it precisely.
If it's illegal to link to objectionable content, how long will it be before it's illegal to link to someone who then in turn links to objectionable content.
It could possibly lead to the RIAA suing yahoo, because yahoo links to "Joe Schmuckatelli's house of useless information", Joe links to "Hiram Lipschitz's big ass audiophile playhouse", and Hiram in turn links to "Leroy Jones's stereo equipment world" which then has links to "Sean O'Brien's MP3 universe" which has some illegal MP3s. Since out of everyone involved yahoo has the deepest pockets, you know who'd get sued.
LK
Good grief! So, you find it impossible that ANY white man can respect a black man. Is that what you are saying?
Not at all. Have you ever heard Limbaugh speak of justice Thomas? There is immense respect there. In fact Limbaugh asked justice Thomas to perform his wedding.
I just find it impossible that the boobs that the DNC parades around to show that they're "down with" the black community could be respected by them.
McCain is an example of someone who is truly his own man, and the GOP bigwigs cannot STAND the thought of him being the President. Because they cannot control him.
The reason GW cleaned McCain's clock is because McCain is only a fiscal conservative. He did himself in with his comments on abortion, and other social issues. Let us not even mention McCain's temper tantrum when he lost.
A "man" who, without his father helping him with every step of his life, would be a nobody.
It wasn't his dad that got him his current job, it was a majority of the people of Texas.
LK
Oh, ok. Bill Clinton "REALLY" respects Jesse Jackson.
Charles Rangold and Al Sharpton are "REALLY" good friends of the white liberal bigwigs of the DNC.
Sure. I've got some swamp land in florida that I'd like to sell you if you believe that.
LK
First off. Being a liberal hater doesn't necessitate one have any particular skin color.
The last time I checked J. C. Watts and Rush Limbaugh had VERY different skin colors. Both are staunch conservatives. Please quit propagating the great lie.
The right to create a parody is protected. Peeople for the Eating of Tasty Animals can in no way be confused with the animal rights nuts so there is no way they there could be any confusion in the mind of any reasonable person.
The anti-cybersquatting act was a bad idea. Have you heard about verizonreallysucks.com? This law is all about giving power to big money organizations and businesses.
LK
You're missing the boat. Let's say that apple, forgets to pay their bill on apple.com and I buy it at auction and set up an e-commerce site for selling fruit. A judge would be within the letter of the law to make me give it back to Apple.
This is precicely what just happened with PETA.
Do you really not get it or are you pretending?
LK
Sheesh, how defensive.
Absolutely. You may have had some jerks as instructors, but that doesn't mean that everyone in the field is just as bad.
What I have a problem with are the pervasive hidden agendas, the constant assumption of spiritual truths.
I've never encountered anyone who hid his or her motives in the field of martial arts. Teachers who wish to to insure that their pupils will be peaceful, generally good people say so from the first time you walk through the door.
I don't feel that everybody who wants a workout without religion should be relegated to "an aerobics class".
Then they can go jogging. It's an instructors duty to impart information about right and wrong to his pupils.
If someone wants to learn how to defend themselves (e.g. a teenage girl doesn't want to get raped, an old man doesn't want to get mugged, a football player wants to keep in shape during the off-season), they should be able to do so without having spiritual values forced upon them.
Have you ever heard of pepper spray? Have you ever heard of a kabuto? How about a concealed weapons permit? The efforts of the lazy or the uninterested to distill out "the important parts" from things that they have no understanding of or respect for have lead us to innovations such as AOL and the like.
There is no one who can force you to believe something. If your teacher's beliefs contradict your own, you are free to cast his beliefs aside.
But I'm done arguing with you.
Fine. We're both set in our beliefs and no amount of arguing will change that.
Obviously I'm assaulting your religious sensibilities
I've never mentioned my religious beliefs. You are making assumptions.
Someone who has learned the techniques without learning the discipline can be as dangerous as a 4 year old with an uzi.
LK
Read the Peta decision from a day or two back. The Anti-Cybersquatting" act gives a judge the power to take your domain away and give it to someone who has a copyright on it.
As I understand it, the scenario that you described is exactly the wya it happened with Peta and mtd.com, but the judge still took the domain.
LK
Look at that peta decision. Lets say I buy one of these domains at auction. NetSol gets my cash. The former owner sues me because he has a copyright on that domain and a judge forces me to give it to him. So I just lost whatever I paid to buy it at auction, my fee to NetSol, AND however much I paid content creators for their work.
No fucking thanks.
LK