If more atheists were like him, there'd be more atheists.
Many atheists, unfortunately for them they are some of the most visible atheists, like Dawkins and Hitchens come across as assholes. Assholery turns people off. Condescension turns people off.
Penn practices a principled non-belief that even many believers can come to understand and respect. In my humble opinion, he would have the best shot at becoming a successful atheist missionary(so to speak) but because he's not a pushy asshole, he wouldn't want the job.
Of course the Republicans wouldn't know anything about playing dirty though, would they...
Karl Rove was the master of it. The big difference is that he didn't have several broadcast networks prepared to publicly question the sanity of anyone who complained about his dirty tricks.
I'm not concealing anything. I am a conservative. However, I am an ideologue and not a partisan. I make just as much noise about Republicans who are wrong too.
I'm not an advocate. I don't have any desire to trick you into listening. If I tell you that your house is on fire and you don't like that I used the cliche term "burning down", that's your shortcoming, not mine.
For the record, when I say mainstream media, I mean "ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, HuffPo, DailyKos, Jon Stewart, and pretty much any newspaper that has 'Times' in the name"
It drives me nuts to have racist right-wingers attempt justify their views by bringing up left-leaning figures like MLK, as if that somehow makes their point credible.
Dr. King was a Republican.
We don't have to have a news channel dedicated to spreading lies and misinformation.
Your local provider must not carry MSNBC.
We don't try to impeach YOUR shitty President for massive crimes when you've worked tirelessly to impeach ours over blowjobs.
Repeating this lie doesn't make it any more true. Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury, subornation of perjury and obstruction of justice. He was being deposed in a sexual harassment lawsuit, HE LIED UNDER OATH, he suggested to other people that they lie under oath and he engaged in intimidation of witnesses.
The fact that minorities fared much worse under Obama than they did under Bush, before going on to re-elect him with record turn out indicates that a lot of them voted primarily upon his race.
It wasn't about his performance. It was about the color of his skin.
I don't know anything about you. I am black. I have seen it with my own eyes. Black Americans have a love and devotion for Barack Obama that I have never seen with any other public figure. It's because he's black.
It's not because Tea Party groups are fringe elements. It's because the average American is only outraged when they are told to be by the mainstream media. The same media that gives Obama the glory-hole treatment every week isn't going to direct people to be upset about the unfair treatment of the opposition.
Without Palin, McCain would have lost by an even greater margin. Palin took what would have been a crushing, embarrassing defeat and left McCain with just a sound beating.
Same here. I didn't have much interest in downloading these files because I have no 3D printer and I'm not likely to get one in the near future. As soon as I heard that the Obama administration was throwing it's weight around, I started looking for mirrors.
I suppose it would take the additional step of adding scars to explain it but lumbar plates could cause a metal detector hit. And how would they prove that you didn't have them?
Yeah, hide them in a belt buckle or behind your cufflinks. A metal signal with the wand gets a visual check that verifies there is metal that looks expected. I can think of 100 ways to get bullets past the worthless security we have today. Only a change to zero-metal policy would defeat them, and that would result in severe problems for the travel industry.
Someone who is truly determined could sneak a bullet through security inside of their body. I guess that real X-Ray scanners could prevent that but how far do we go?
My oldest firearm is 90 years old and it works just like it did in 1923. They're not going to be breaking down within the lifetime of anyone who is alive today.
As written, personal defense wasn't ever an intention
You are incorrect. The contemporaries of the men who drafted the US Constitution(and in at least one case, one of the men himself) also wrote the Pennsylvania constitution, which since 1776 has contained some form of this provision "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state"
The right to own a firearm for both the national and personal defense was a concern during the 18th century. Despite what you may have read on the huffington post, this is not a late 20th century invention.
Or they are deliberately lying because they don't like to acknowledge "militia" in the wording.
George Mason, one of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention, said this "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.". In other words, we're all the militia.
Tench Coxe, member of the Continental Congress, said this "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
From your bandying about trivia about the inspiration for team sports to the gaps in your knowledge about the intended meaning of "militia" shows that you are projecting. Your accusations about us apply far more to yourself.
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I really like Penn.
If more atheists were like him, there'd be more atheists.
Many atheists, unfortunately for them they are some of the most visible atheists, like Dawkins and Hitchens come across as assholes. Assholery turns people off. Condescension turns people off.
Penn practices a principled non-belief that even many believers can come to understand and respect. In my humble opinion, he would have the best shot at becoming a successful atheist missionary(so to speak) but because he's not a pushy asshole, he wouldn't want the job.
LK
Of course the Republicans wouldn't know anything about playing dirty though, would they...
Karl Rove was the master of it. The big difference is that he didn't have several broadcast networks prepared to publicly question the sanity of anyone who complained about his dirty tricks.
LK
I'm not concealing anything. I am a conservative. However, I am an ideologue and not a partisan. I make just as much noise about Republicans who are wrong too.
LK
I'm not an advocate. I don't have any desire to trick you into listening. If I tell you that your house is on fire and you don't like that I used the cliche term "burning down", that's your shortcoming, not mine.
For the record, when I say mainstream media, I mean "ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CNN, MSNBC, HuffPo, DailyKos, Jon Stewart, and pretty much any newspaper that has 'Times' in the name"
LK
We'll see the kind of treatment it gets on Meet The Press and Hardball.
LK
It drives me nuts to have racist right-wingers attempt justify their views by bringing up left-leaning figures like MLK, as if that somehow makes their point credible.
Dr. King was a Republican.
We don't have to have a news channel dedicated to spreading lies and misinformation.
Your local provider must not carry MSNBC.
We don't try to impeach YOUR shitty President for massive crimes when you've worked tirelessly to impeach ours over blowjobs.
Repeating this lie doesn't make it any more true. Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury, subornation of perjury and obstruction of justice. He was being deposed in a sexual harassment lawsuit, HE LIED UNDER OATH, he suggested to other people that they lie under oath and he engaged in intimidation of witnesses.
LK
I think 90% of black children are in unwed single parent households now for example
70% of black children are born out of wedlock but that also includes children born to co-habitating unwed parents.
LK
The fact that minorities fared much worse under Obama than they did under Bush, before going on to re-elect him with record turn out indicates that a lot of them voted primarily upon his race.
It wasn't about his performance. It was about the color of his skin.
I don't know anything about you. I am black. I have seen it with my own eyes. Black Americans have a love and devotion for Barack Obama that I have never seen with any other public figure. It's because he's black.
LK
You're half right.
It's not because Tea Party groups are fringe elements. It's because the average American is only outraged when they are told to be by the mainstream media. The same media that gives Obama the glory-hole treatment every week isn't going to direct people to be upset about the unfair treatment of the opposition.
LK
Yes but they arent trying to throw the country under the bus just because the president is black.
No, they were willing to throw the country under the bus just to get a black president.
LK
His choice of running mates was the best thing about his campaign. He was regarded with suspicion by conservative Republicans.
He needed something to give them a reason to show up in November. Palin did just that.
He had the misfortune of going up against one of the best campaigners in recent history.
Exit polling shows that McCain would have lost by an even greater margin without her.
LK
Repeating this lie doesn't make it the truth.
Without Palin, McCain would have lost by an even greater margin.
Palin took what would have been a crushing, embarrassing defeat and left McCain with just a sound beating.
LK
Same here. I didn't have much interest in downloading these files because I have no 3D printer and I'm not likely to get one in the near future. As soon as I heard that the Obama administration was throwing it's weight around, I started looking for mirrors.
LK
I wish I had mod points.
LK
To pick a nit. I have read the constitution and I don't believe that my correspondence is private. I do, however, believe that it should be private.
LK
nothing is "required" They *are* the law.
They certainly seem to think so.
LK
But, that's not "required". Correct?
LK
I suppose it would take the additional step of adding scars to explain it but lumbar plates could cause a metal detector hit. And how would they prove that you didn't have them?
LK
It would appear that you are operating under several misconceptions.
Very little of the NRA's funding comes from gun manufacturers.
New technology doesn't eliminate demand of old guns. Curio and Relic firearms are booming.
LK
Yeah, hide them in a belt buckle or behind your cufflinks. A metal signal with the wand gets a visual check that verifies there is metal that looks expected. I can think of 100 ways to get bullets past the worthless security we have today. Only a change to zero-metal policy would defeat them, and that would result in severe problems for the travel industry.
Someone who is truly determined could sneak a bullet through security inside of their body. I guess that real X-Ray scanners could prevent that but how far do we go?
LK
My oldest firearm is 90 years old and it works just like it did in 1923. They're not going to be breaking down within the lifetime of anyone who is alive today.
LK
Your inability to understand it doesn't equate to its absence.
LK
Perhaps in your experience, two quotes and one citation are "lots".
Your inability to understand that you're incorrect, doesn't mean that you are not.
LK
You obviously have no idea about history.
Right back at you sir. I'll expand on this later.
As written, personal defense wasn't ever an intention
You are incorrect. The contemporaries of the men who drafted the US Constitution(and in at least one case, one of the men himself) also wrote the Pennsylvania constitution, which since 1776 has contained some form of this provision "That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state"
But don't take my word for it.
The right to own a firearm for both the national and personal defense was a concern during the 18th century. Despite what you may have read on the huffington post, this is not a late 20th century invention.
Or they are deliberately lying because they don't like to acknowledge "militia" in the wording.
George Mason, one of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention, said this "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.". In other words, we're all the militia.
Tench Coxe, member of the Continental Congress, said this "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom? Congress shall have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American ... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the People."
From your bandying about trivia about the inspiration for team sports to the gaps in your knowledge about the intended meaning of "militia" shows that you are projecting. Your accusations about us apply far more to yourself.
LK
If I misunderstood your argument, by all means, correct me.
Why does the government need to enshrine its right to raise a defensive force in the bill of rights?
LK