Someone must have sanitized it. Look in the entry for Breakout. Anyway, Woz removed 50 chips from the design and the Jobs was paid $5,000 for the work. Jobs lead Woz to believe that it was a $750 reward, so he gave Woz half of that. In other words, Jobs pocketed $4625 for doing absolutely no work and screwed Woz.
Seems I must have misinterpreted the statement above... apologies.
It happens.
Frankly, I'm still not 100% sure how to interpret that sentence, probably part of its meaning gets lost in translation somewhere..( you don't happen to speak Dutch ? =)
Sorry, English and a little French & Arabic. I'll try rephrasing,
I do not believe that the tests are culturally biased. I believe that the idea of them being culturally biased is bullshit. I was also pointing out that in African-American culture, there is a strong theme of anti-intellectualism. Look at some of the later responses to my post and you'll see what I'm talking about.
An example of cultural bias would be if there were questions that only one group of people are likely to know the correct answer. An example of this would be to ask the student to name four brands of sunscreen. Black and brown people don't use sunscreen and would therefore be less likely to be able to name four brands of a product that they never need. Or a word associations where you must take a word and select the one that is least related such as taking the term "Beach" and the potentially related items "Tanning", "Swimming", "Surfing" and "Whale". In this hypothetical example, the correct answer is "Whale", but a black person doesn't go to the beach to tan so for him/her "Tanning" is the word least associated with a beach.
Ah yes, the condescending, angry, white liberal douche. I knew you'd show up eventually. You know nothing of our internal politics or struggle.
What you have just illustrated is exemplar of what I was referring to.
When a black kid achieves academically, people who choose not to do so accuse him/her of "trying to be white" or "selling out". This continues into adulthood where success in academia or the professional world is treated much the same way. It's treated with scorn and derision, fueled by jealousy. But, this only comes from those who have failed to achieve on their own. When a black man or woman takes his or her God given abilities and works hard to use them to achieve success, it make a lot of people unhappy. Black people who could have, but didn't and white liberals who need black people to be dependent upon them.
It's more than that. It's two-fold. You need black people to be dependent upon you for the entitlement programs that you so generously give out and you need black people to fit into the model that you believe they should occupy. You need this because it's the only way to explain away your failure to achieve. When a black guy gets a job that you were hoping for, you need for it to be affirmative action because without that you have to face the hard truth that there are minorities that are better than you.
Take someone like Cornell West, or Skip Gates as an example, they don't engage in those sort of juvenile efforts to compel conformity of thought. Why? Because they are successful in their fields.
I've grown beyond schoolyard politics and social pressure.
Fair point. Do pharmaceuticals get patents for their medicine? If yes this might actually work.
Oh hell yes. Think about this, if they didn't would we really have three competing boner pills on the market today?
As things stand today, in the US, I believe that they get 20 years from the moment of invention. If it takes 8 years to get through clinical trials, they still have 12 years to make a bazillion dollars off of it. If it works with no or very few serious side-effects, you could imagine a smallpox-like vaccination effort. Every new child would get the vaccine. Most adults would get it. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that 3 billion people could possible get this cure before the patent runs out. So, let's be conservative here. We'll say that it costs 1,000 per person for the cure. Over the course of those 12 years, we're talking about over a trillion dollars in sales. You just can't beat that.
I'm black and I score at least three standard deviations above the norm on IQ tests.I don't buy the culturally biased bullshit about the tests. Unfortunately there's an anti-intellectual theme in much of African American culture. Through peer and societal pressure, black kids learn to under-perform.
If I'm black and I can do well academically, then others can too. Just pull your damned pants up and read a book.
I hear this argument all the time, but I think this counter-argument is much more effective.
If a drug company develops a working cure for HIV/AIDS, they can do no wrong for the next generation. They'll eventually own most other drug companies. Just imagine the commercials. "You could buy brand A aspirin or your could by GloboCureCorp's aspirin. Remember GloboCureCorp's fantastic success with the plague of the 20th century. Who are you going to trust your headache to? GloboCureCorp's aspirin, brought to you by the people who cured AIDS."
A cure for AIDS is a virtual license to print money. No one would suppress that if they developed it.
I don't have asthma, I do have an allergic condition that sometimes requires that I use a bronchodilator. I have a prescription for an albuterol inhaler. I also have over the counter epinephrine inhalers.
My prescription inhaler costs about $37.00, my over the counter inhaler cost about $18.00. Epinephrine isn't as good because of all of the side effects that you mentioned, but I like having it as an option. It provides an incentive for the albuterol inhaler manufacturers to not raise their prices too high.
Do inhalers have to use ANY propellant? Or do they include the propellant so that they can minimize the amount of the active ingredient so that the consumer needs to buy lots and lots of inhalers?
No you asshole. They use propellant because when you're having a fucking asthma attack, you can't generate enough negative pressure with your lungs to properly atomize the medicine!
Ahh yes the evil corporations, the ones who MANUFACTURE THE FUCKING MEDICINE IN THE FIRST PLACE! Those rotten corporations, the ones who develop all of the medicines that people need and use.
Those rotten sons of bitches, bane of clueless know-nothings the world over.
Someone else beat me to the punch, but yes metal. You can burn metal and it's not organic. I wouldn't want to breathe in any of the gases that are released from that either, but they're not aromatic hydrocarbons and therefore carcinogens.
Say the person who benefits from the city fire department, police department, highway department, health department that enforces sanitation and public health regulations, the water and sewer, departments that provide safe water and take away sewage
I don't know about where you live, but where I live we pay for water and sewage. Thankyouverymuch.
I'd put good money on the bet that within 20 years, we'll see a resurgence of physical media - books, games,etc.
I agree, if it's not banned either by environmental regulation or by media collusion. These so called millennials don't yet have enough perspective to understand what is going to come of the trends that they're embracing. People my age lived through the obsolescence of 8-Track, vinyl records, cassettes, BetaMax, DIVX, VHS, LaserDisc, MiniDisc, 5.25" floppies, 3.5" floppies, Zip Disks, Jaz Disks, Bernoulli disks, MO drives and I'm sure a few other things that I haven't thought about since the 1980s. When they've been stung a few times, like the rest of us have, I think they'll be more reticent to embrace digital distribution.
We? Who the fuck is "we"? You got a turd in your pocket? Oh, you must be under 20. Wait until you're my age kid. Live through a couple of abandoned formats and you'll learn the attractiveness of a medium that doesn't rely on a third party remaining in business.
Ah yes. The old "blame the language for the lack of a developer's skills" ploy. It's a sad carpenter who blames his tools for his incompetence. It's a sadder carpenter who blames a tool for other carpenters' incompetence.
I can't speak for other workplaces, but there are certain languages that people at my company develop in and you can get a pretty good idea of a programmer's skill level by what language he develops in. Anyone who develops in only one language is very good at that language. S/He can solve any problem you throw at him/her in that one language. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but demand is not constant. Sometimes, they need more people in a different department. If you are a one language programmer, you have very good odds of being let go when that happens. If you are competent in many, you can go far.
The hands down best programmer I ever worked with could code in anything from FORTRAN 77 through.NET and his code was always amazing. But, that's one out of hundreds.
Burning organic matter releases aromatic hyrdocarbons. They are carcinogens.
Remember, people have actually evolved being exposed to burning organic matter. IIRC Homo Erectus had fire.
You seem to believe that carcinogens are not found in nature. Wood smoke is particularly bad. There has been documented DNA damage done by exposure to wood smoke.
You need to get this bullshit out of your head that just because something's natural means that it's good for you.
Smoke from any burning organic matter is a carcinogen.
The thing is that people inhale less marijuana smoke than they do tobacco smoke so there's no definite link between the amount of smoke that even heavy potheads inhale and cancer.
Out of curiosity, what behavior from KDE 3 is not possible in KDE 4?
I can't speak for the others, but even when it's setup to mimic KDE 3.5.x, KDE 4.x still feels wrong. It's difficult to explain but if it's a problem for you, you know what I mean.
I just don't get the love for the 3.5 series. I liked 3.5.x and used almost everyday, but 4.x series is sooo much better in terms of speed, looks and apps. The KDE 4 series is IMHO right behind the Mac OS X in terms of goodness.
I think that may be why you like KDE 4.x. I am a former Mac user, just like former smokers, there are fewer harsher critics of Apple than their former users. I lost interest in the direction they were taking the UI back in the original OSX days. I haven't looked back since. I feel the same way about KDE 4.x, I find it less usable than KDE 3.5.x. I don't want the UI to get in my way and that's how it feels to me when I try to use KDE 4.x.
I think most people who long for the past truly forgot what it really was like. I never thought kde 3.5 was all that great, but think 4.5 was great.
Clearly, our opinions differ but I haven't forgotten anything about what the past was like. I still use Trinity KDE 3.5.x on my linux machines. I despise KDE4.x.
On the other hand, I'm glad that Obama is more concerned with practicality than idealism, because I find the idealism necessary to support SETI naive.
WHAT???? Idealism was the center of his campaign and he hasn't come up with one practical solution since he got into office. And no, blaming Bush doesn't count as a solution.
After decreasing during Carter's term, it began to climb after Reagan was elected and continued to climb under GHW Bush. During Clinton's term, the curve was reversed and the debt began decreasing again. Since 2000 it has been back on an upward climb.
You're playing word games "public debt" isn't the same as "national debt". And there's this canard about a Clinton surplus that decreased the national debt. That's a myth. The truth is that even though the increase in the national debt slowed down under Clinton, it rose every year of his presidency.
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Someone must have sanitized it. Look in the entry for Breakout. Anyway, Woz removed 50 chips from the design and the Jobs was paid $5,000 for the work. Jobs lead Woz to believe that it was a $750 reward, so he gave Woz half of that. In other words, Jobs pocketed $4625 for doing absolutely no work and screwed Woz.
LK
I think you're misremembering what happened there. Jobs ripped off Woz in that deal. Woz did all of the work and Jobs pocketed most of the money.
LK
Seems I must have misinterpreted the statement above... apologies.
It happens.
Frankly, I'm still not 100% sure how to interpret that sentence, probably part of its meaning gets lost in translation somewhere ..( you don't happen to speak Dutch ? =)
Sorry, English and a little French & Arabic. I'll try rephrasing,
I do not believe that the tests are culturally biased. I believe that the idea of them being culturally biased is bullshit. I was also pointing out that in African-American culture, there is a strong theme of anti-intellectualism. Look at some of the later responses to my post and you'll see what I'm talking about.
An example of cultural bias would be if there were questions that only one group of people are likely to know the correct answer. An example of this would be to ask the student to name four brands of sunscreen. Black and brown people don't use sunscreen and would therefore be less likely to be able to name four brands of a product that they never need. Or a word associations where you must take a word and select the one that is least related such as taking the term "Beach" and the potentially related items "Tanning", "Swimming", "Surfing" and "Whale". In this hypothetical example, the correct answer is "Whale", but a black person doesn't go to the beach to tan so for him/her "Tanning" is the word least associated with a beach.
LK
Ah yes, the condescending, angry, white liberal douche. I knew you'd show up eventually. You know nothing of our internal politics or struggle.
What you have just illustrated is exemplar of what I was referring to.
When a black kid achieves academically, people who choose not to do so accuse him/her of "trying to be white" or "selling out". This continues into adulthood where success in academia or the professional world is treated much the same way. It's treated with scorn and derision, fueled by jealousy. But, this only comes from those who have failed to achieve on their own. When a black man or woman takes his or her God given abilities and works hard to use them to achieve success, it make a lot of people unhappy. Black people who could have, but didn't and white liberals who need black people to be dependent upon them.
It's more than that. It's two-fold. You need black people to be dependent upon you for the entitlement programs that you so generously give out and you need black people to fit into the model that you believe they should occupy. You need this because it's the only way to explain away your failure to achieve. When a black guy gets a job that you were hoping for, you need for it to be affirmative action because without that you have to face the hard truth that there are minorities that are better than you.
Take someone like Cornell West, or Skip Gates as an example, they don't engage in those sort of juvenile efforts to compel conformity of thought. Why? Because they are successful in their fields.
I've grown beyond schoolyard politics and social pressure.
LK
Fair point. Do pharmaceuticals get patents for their medicine? If yes this might actually work.
Oh hell yes. Think about this, if they didn't would we really have three competing boner pills on the market today?
As things stand today, in the US, I believe that they get 20 years from the moment of invention. If it takes 8 years to get through clinical trials, they still have 12 years to make a bazillion dollars off of it. If it works with no or very few serious side-effects, you could imagine a smallpox-like vaccination effort. Every new child would get the vaccine. Most adults would get it. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that 3 billion people could possible get this cure before the patent runs out. So, let's be conservative here. We'll say that it costs 1,000 per person for the cure. Over the course of those 12 years, we're talking about over a trillion dollars in sales. You just can't beat that.
LK
I'm black and I score at least three standard deviations above the norm on IQ tests.I don't buy the culturally biased bullshit about the tests.
Unfortunately there's an anti-intellectual theme in much of African American culture. Through peer and societal pressure, black kids learn to under-perform.
If I'm black and I can do well academically, then others can too. Just pull your damned pants up and read a book.
LK
John Wayne's real name was Marion.
Maria could be a man.
LK
I hear this argument all the time, but I think this counter-argument is much more effective.
If a drug company develops a working cure for HIV/AIDS, they can do no wrong for the next generation. They'll eventually own most other drug companies. Just imagine the commercials.
"You could buy brand A aspirin or your could by GloboCureCorp's aspirin. Remember GloboCureCorp's fantastic success with the plague of the 20th century. Who are you going to trust your headache to? GloboCureCorp's aspirin, brought to you by the people who cured AIDS."
A cure for AIDS is a virtual license to print money. No one would suppress that if they developed it.
LK
I don't have asthma, I do have an allergic condition that sometimes requires that I use a bronchodilator. I have a prescription for an albuterol inhaler. I also have over the counter epinephrine inhalers.
My prescription inhaler costs about $37.00, my over the counter inhaler cost about $18.00.
Epinephrine isn't as good because of all of the side effects that you mentioned, but I like having it as an option. It provides an incentive for the albuterol inhaler manufacturers to not raise their prices too high.
LK
Do inhalers have to use ANY propellant? Or do they include the propellant so that they can minimize the amount of the active ingredient so that the consumer needs to buy lots and lots of inhalers?
No you asshole. They use propellant because when you're having a fucking asthma attack, you can't generate enough negative pressure with your lungs to properly atomize the medicine!
LK
Ahh yes the evil corporations, the ones who MANUFACTURE THE FUCKING MEDICINE IN THE FIRST PLACE! Those rotten corporations, the ones who develop all of the medicines that people need and use.
Those rotten sons of bitches, bane of clueless know-nothings the world over.
LK
Someone else beat me to the punch, but yes metal. You can burn metal and it's not organic. I wouldn't want to breathe in any of the gases that are released from that either, but they're not aromatic hydrocarbons and therefore carcinogens.
LK
Say the person who benefits from the city fire department, police department, highway department, health department that enforces sanitation and public health regulations, the water and sewer, departments that provide safe water and take away sewage
I don't know about where you live, but where I live we pay for water and sewage. Thankyouverymuch.
LK
I'd put good money on the bet that within 20 years, we'll see a resurgence of physical media - books, games,etc.
I agree, if it's not banned either by environmental regulation or by media collusion. These so called millennials don't yet have enough perspective to understand what is going to come of the trends that they're embracing. People my age lived through the obsolescence of 8-Track, vinyl records, cassettes, BetaMax, DIVX, VHS, LaserDisc, MiniDisc, 5.25" floppies, 3.5" floppies, Zip Disks, Jaz Disks, Bernoulli disks, MO drives and I'm sure a few other things that I haven't thought about since the 1980s. When they've been stung a few times, like the rest of us have, I think they'll be more reticent to embrace digital distribution.
LK
Just like we no longer buy dead tree
We? Who the fuck is "we"? You got a turd in your pocket? Oh, you must be under 20. Wait until you're my age kid. Live through a couple of abandoned formats and you'll learn the attractiveness of a medium that doesn't rely on a third party remaining in business.
LK
I wish I had signed up when I first started reading the site. I'd be in the 4 digit UID club if I had.
LK
Ah yes. The old "blame the language for the lack of a developer's skills" ploy. It's a sad carpenter who blames his tools for his incompetence. It's a sadder carpenter who blames a tool for other carpenters' incompetence.
I can't speak for other workplaces, but there are certain languages that people at my company develop in and you can get a pretty good idea of a programmer's skill level by what language he develops in. Anyone who develops in only one language is very good at that language. S/He can solve any problem you throw at him/her in that one language. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but demand is not constant. Sometimes, they need more people in a different department. If you are a one language programmer, you have very good odds of being let go when that happens. If you are competent in many, you can go far.
The hands down best programmer I ever worked with could code in anything from FORTRAN 77 through .NET and his code was always amazing. But, that's one out of hundreds.
LK
I hate to say it but citation needed.
Burning organic matter releases aromatic hyrdocarbons. They are carcinogens.
Remember, people have actually evolved being exposed to burning organic matter. IIRC Homo Erectus had fire.
You seem to believe that carcinogens are not found in nature. Wood smoke is particularly bad. There has been documented DNA damage done by exposure to wood smoke.
You need to get this bullshit out of your head that just because something's natural means that it's good for you.
LK
Smoke from any burning organic matter is a carcinogen.
The thing is that people inhale less marijuana smoke than they do tobacco smoke so there's no definite link between the amount of smoke that even heavy potheads inhale and cancer.
LK
That should have been their first clue that it was fake Apple. Steve Jobs doesn't give a damn about anyone else.
LK
Out of curiosity, what behavior from KDE 3 is not possible in KDE 4?
I can't speak for the others, but even when it's setup to mimic KDE 3.5.x, KDE 4.x still feels wrong. It's difficult to explain but if it's a problem for you, you know what I mean.
LK
I just don't get the love for the 3.5 series. I liked 3.5.x and used almost everyday, but 4.x series is sooo much better in terms of speed, looks and apps. The KDE 4 series is IMHO right behind the Mac OS X in terms of goodness.
I think that may be why you like KDE 4.x. I am a former Mac user, just like former smokers, there are fewer harsher critics of Apple than their former users. I lost interest in the direction they were taking the UI back in the original OSX days. I haven't looked back since. I feel the same way about KDE 4.x, I find it less usable than KDE 3.5.x. I don't want the UI to get in my way and that's how it feels to me when I try to use KDE 4.x.
LK
I think most people who long for the past truly forgot what it really was like. I never thought kde 3.5 was all that great, but think 4.5 was great.
Clearly, our opinions differ but I haven't forgotten anything about what the past was like. I still use Trinity KDE 3.5.x on my linux machines. I despise KDE4.x.
LK
On the other hand, I'm glad that Obama is more concerned with practicality than idealism, because I find the idealism necessary to support SETI naive.
WHAT???? Idealism was the center of his campaign and he hasn't come up with one practical solution since he got into office. And no, blaming Bush doesn't count as a solution.
LK
After decreasing during Carter's term, it began to climb after Reagan was elected and continued to climb under GHW Bush. During Clinton's term, the curve was reversed and the debt began decreasing again. Since 2000 it has been back on an upward climb.
You're playing word games "public debt" isn't the same as "national debt". And there's this canard about a Clinton surplus that decreased the national debt. That's a myth. The truth is that even though the increase in the national debt slowed down under Clinton, it rose every year of his presidency.
LK