>As it stands, I can only think that those who actively oppose nuclear power don't really think so.
Some of us are simply opposed to leaving a big fat nuclear waste mess for our kids to deal with. The problem is already much bigger than a lot of people realize.
What happens when the power company goes bankrupt and shuts down the nuclear reactor for good? The waste sits in rotting containers on the power plant property. Before we create more of it, someone needs to find a solution to the problems that nuclear power creates.
We know that carbon production *might* be a problem and causing the global warming we are seeing.
We know that nuclear waste disposal *is* a real problem, here and now.
Building more plants right now, is stupid and short sighted.
The question I have is if we can build all these nuclear plants and feed the grid, why can't we use alternative energy and feed the grid just as easily? We need to build 93 bln worth of power distribution infrastructure for wind but not for nuclear? What the fuck kind of sense does that make?
(Hint: it doesn't make sense)
It doesn't add up. Obama is snowing us again. The "ya ya nuclear" people are either letting Obama snow job them or are paid lobbyists.
So much for "no lobbyist" promises that Obama made. He's full of shit like the rest of them.
ya but if you went through the trouble to build the linux pc, it takes less time to automate this stuff than it will to answer the phone, drive to your mom's, and reinstall the video driver every time there's a kernel update.
Just sayin...
I know a ton of developers (including myself) that use mac os and apple gear. I also use linux and windows os's. Mac use is actually prevalent with the developers I know.
What I'm using to do what at any moment depends on who is paying my salary, what their requirements are and where I am physically located. If I'm at the beach, I'll be shelled into my servers using ssh over a VPN from the iPhone, on Edge if I have to:-p.
Now you equate GPU speed with power. Like he said, it's not rocket science and that's all that's changed. Figure out the target gaming potential you need to reach, pick out the graphics card(s) that will deliver the performance you need, then pick a CPU that can push the frame rates the graphics card(s) are capable of.
Even with a pair of the newest GPUs out there, pretty much any quad core beyond phenom is powerful enough to push enough frame rate to saturate the GPUs. Any more CPU than this is wasted on gaming. GPU is the bottleneck (assuming 4GB of RAM and a quad core made in the last 2 years) so that's what you need to base the rest of your decisions on and where you need to spend the most money.
The parent's points are all valid. The OP needs only to figure out what GPU he needs to run Oblivion at 1080p. The rest will fall into place by supporting the GPU capability.
I found the answer in under 10 seconds by typing "graphics card performance oblivion 1080p 2010" into google.
He needs at least 2 7900 GTXs running in SLi to get 40fps, a GTX 280 or ATi 4890 would be a much better choice, though he could get by with a single 8800 GTX, which is dirt cheap. I have one sitting on a shelf. It would have trouble with some newer games tho. I have an ATi 4870 and it happily handles most new games with aplomb. I also have a crossfire chipset so when it doesn't, I'll just add another one or get a pair of 4890s.
you rename rpm or yum (or whatever), and write a wrapper script that automates reinstalling the video driver by parsing the output from the package manager and reinstalls the video driver if it sees "kernel" in the package manager output, and/or renames the pm again, replacing it with the script if it sees the name of the package manager.
It's not rocket science. While I agree that linux is not for normal users "out of the box", with a few simple tweaks, you can automate everything.
Linux is an engineer/hobbyist's OS. You can make it do anything you want, including update itself without breaking stuff and other things that would make it suitable for your mom. The distro maintainers aren't allowed to do it because of copyright and the fact that the nVidia vendor driver is closed source. That doesn't mean you can't do it yourself. You also have the choice of using nVidia's proprietary crap or the open source version of the driver, which would also eliminate the problem.
I've seen similar issues on windows (like bluescreens, bad drivers), so it's not like linux is any worse. At least it's predictable. In this case you created your own problem by using nVidia's crap driver instead of the one that came with the distro. Which leads me to the next question. If you are capable of knowing that nVidia's driver existed, and capable of installing it, aren't you capable of writing a simple shell script to handle the driver reinstalls?
"They're not doing it because they want it; they're doing it because they're paid to do it."
Doesn't this describe just about any paid project? Just sayin'
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So how do you know piss can't be tasted in American coffee?
Some of us actually do know all about how grind vs. flow rate and temperature affect extraction, and don't over extract our coffee. Some of us even know all about roasting, what arabica is, and how to hold a conversation about the differences in acidic content between Ethiopean and Sumatra Mandheling, and how their acidity affects the flavor. We know why french roast is used in presses, italian roast is used in espresso machines, and can set a grind and extraction time which will result in perfect crema.
There are several varieties of American coffee which are exquisite. Kona and Blue Mountain are just a couple which are highly sought after. Not all of them taste like ass. It's poor roasting, brewing and dispensing practices that ruin American brewed coffee you may get in the united states. The coffee is fine. You just need to find a place that can consistently roast coffee correctly, then grind and brew it yourself or go to a coffee house that does it right. Chances are you are better off doing it yourself.
I think your statement should more accurately read "Most americans don't know how to brew and serve coffee". The American coffee itself is not usually the problem.
no the forward looking way to deal with this is to add a second ECM. One ECM controls mission critical stuff (brakes, steering, ignition, gas), and has a very small software package running on it. The other ECM is where the fancy features go, like GPS, dash gauges, radio and everything else that isn't necessary to performing the basic function of being a car.
the first ECM would never get very large. The second would be the wild west...
I own a mustang. The problem with it is the gas pedal is too close to the side of the console. If you push it all the way down it will get stuck, especially if you have an after market carpet in the driver's side and it rides up under the gas pedal.
It's happened to me. Pretty scary actually. Luckily I had the presence of mind to kill it before I rear ended the car in front of me.
My driver's side carpet is now securely velcroed....
IANAL but If I slandered my employer on facebook I would expect to be fired. I'm not sure how slandering a teacher at your school is (or should be) any different.
While it's legal, and you are within your free speech rights to post anything you want, that doesn't protect you from repercussions from the organization you are talking smack about. It protects you from getting arrested ; )
The school is well within it's rights to suspend a student who's publicly talking smack about a teacher. Free speech is guaranteed by the constitution, not your school's charter.
IMHO the student made a libelous claim on a public forum. The first amendment doesn't protect her from getting suspended. I guarantee this suit will be dismissed. It should be.
Fiber is overkill. Fiber is only needed for runs longer than 100m, which is the max length of ethernet over copper.
Personally I'd roll with Cat 6a. It's the right combination of cost and future proofing. You can stream 1080p over 10Mbps with a ton of headroom. I can't realistically ever see data transmission requirements higher than 10Gbps for your house. 10Gbps is way more than enough for a family of 100 to each stream their own 1080p HD movie, surf the internet, and stream mp3s at the same time they are downloading a giant game patch.
read up on what cat 5 is and you'll understand why that idea won't work. The impedance(resistance, ohms) is wrong and you need to have twisted pair to enable reliable 100Mbps transmission speed. The twist of the wire is critical for noise cancellation.
Anyway, by the time you solder up a jig on both ends to make such a solution work you could've pulled new cat5e and have gigabit for your LAN(or Cat 6a for 10Gbps)
Obama is ignoring solar power. 8bln will buy a 1.3GW facility at the current price of $6000 per MW.
Nuclear is not the answer. It's unsustainable and the wrong thing to do. We could power the entire country with 180 square miles of solar cells used to replace roofs. There's over 1000 square miles of roofs, completely wasted space.
Obama is selling us out. He could use the 56bln planned for nuclear to finance truly clean renewable energy.
Give the homeowners a tax credit to install them then pay them for the power they generate (instead of the power companies). You'd have to be an idiot to not take advantage of that.
You can disagree all you want, but you are still wrong.
What is not covered, section 2 of the policy: 2. Loss or damage caused by:
you deliberately damaging or neglecting the electronic equipment;
you not following the manufacturer’s instructions;
routine servicing, inspection, maintenance or cleaning;
the use of accessories.
If you smash it with a hammer and represent that it was an accident, to collect, you have committed fraud.
Deliberate destruction of property to collect insurance is called "insurance fraud" and is illegal, no matter how cool someone thinks it is to stick it to the man.
To claim a PhD (or 100000 of them)has enough knowledge to fully understand the dynamics of the climate is not logical.
All we understand is the observed effects of the climate. We can't even predict what the climate will do in one location in 5 days. Assuming we can predict what the entire climate of the earth will do for the next 20 years is folly. Anyone that claims they (or anyone) can strikes me as an idiot.
Climate science is in roughly the same stage in it's lifecycle that medical science was when Alcmaeon performed the first known dissection back in 535 BC. We have only recently, in the last 100 years, been able to observe the climate with any reliable measure.
We're still figuring out the basics. Predicting the behavior of a system you don't understand is impossible. You may as well tape a few thousand possibilities on a wall, blind fold yourself, and throw a dart at the wall. The result will be just as likely to be accurate.
AGW zealots have an argument for everything. No matter what happens your SUV caused it.
I'd like to know why the upper half of the US used to be covered in 4km thick ice until 10000-20000 years ago when it all melted and left the great lakes as well as the finger lakes in new york state. It's been getting warmer ever since, on average.
How does AGW "science" rationalize this?
I knew global warming was happening back in 1979 when I was 10 and read a book about the ice age and how the glaciers covering north America melted. Does anyone really think this is a new phenomenon? The earth freezes and warms up and there's nothing anyone can do about it other than adapt. Get over it. It's a cycle that's 100's of thousands of years long. The earth has always and will always be changing, including the climate and there isn't shit you can do about it.
Eventually we will be back in a deep freeze. Here's a climate theory for you: Shit happens, deal with it.
We don't need AGW to supply a reason to clean up our act. Dirty air and grime on everything is enough reason for me. AGW is a political tool that is taking advantage of a natural cycle to produce profit (via carbon credits) and a reason to jack up our taxes and give special interests money. What's worse is the politicians behind it are hypocrites and waste more energy than any 20 middle class people.
I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to fall for the bullshit. Yes global warming is happening but people have nothing to do with it. Stop being a sucker.
Crysis and lots of other games use multiple cores. The problem is GPUs are the bottleneck. It does no good to have multiple cores if the GPUs can't process the frames as fast as the CPUs can push them. The only game that actually will use 100% of a modern core right now is Crysis. The rest of them easily run on a single core at less than 80% utilization. Get a quad video card set up and you'd see an advantage to a game that used 2 or more cores.
I'm not sure where you got this information from, but it's wrong.
Here's a partial list: Supreme Commander Grand Theft Auto 4 Unreal Tournament 3 Flight Simulator X 10tacle: Elevon Activision/Lionhead: The Movies Lost Planet The Last Remnant Left 4 Dead ArmA 2 World in Conflict Crysis Far Cry 2 Alan Wake Kingsoft Mission Against Terror Rybka Anno 1404: dawn of Discovery Red Faction: Guerrilla Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising Left For Dead 2 Prototype Resident Evil 5 Tomb Raider Underworld Prince of Persia 2008 Shattered Horizon Left 4 Dead 2 Batman: Arkham Asylum Aliens vs. Predator Colin McRae: Dirt 2 Dragon Age
Only problem is when you see a game like this using your cores, it's still dropping frames and your CPUs are at 30-50% because the GPUs just aren't up to snuff yet to take advantage of all this new frame pushing power.
In 2007 the assertion that nothing is using multi core was true. That's all changed, and we've found out that now we need a quad video setup to actually see any advantage to it.
"We do not support construction of new nuclear reactors as a means of addressing the climate crisis. Available renewable energy and energy efficiency technologies are faster, cheaper, safer and cleaner strategies for reducing greenhouse emissions than nuclear power."
"We're getting a little tired hearing nuclear industry lobbyists and pro-nuclear politicians allege that environmentalists are now supporting nuclear power as a means of addressing the climate crisis. We know that's not true, and we're sure you do too. In fact, using nuclear power would be counterproductive at reducing carbon emissions. As Amory Lovins of Rocky Mountain Institute points out, "every dollar invested in nuclear expansion will worsen climate change by buying less solution per dollar..."
What are we going to do with the waste? Until I hear a good answer to that question, nuclear power just doesn't cut it from my standpoint. Obama's nuclear plan, just like the rest of his policy, and US government policy in general, is shortsighted and leaves the burden on our kids. If we put 8bln into real solutions, we'd be able to build one.
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>As it stands, I can only think that those who actively oppose nuclear power don't really think so.
Some of us are simply opposed to leaving a big fat nuclear waste mess for our kids to deal with. The problem is already much bigger than a lot of people realize.
What happens when the power company goes bankrupt and shuts down the nuclear reactor for good? The waste sits in rotting containers on the power plant property. Before we create more of it, someone needs to find a solution to the problems that nuclear power creates.
We know that carbon production *might* be a problem and causing the global warming we are seeing.
We know that nuclear waste disposal *is* a real problem, here and now.
Building more plants right now, is stupid and short sighted.
The question I have is if we can build all these nuclear plants and feed the grid, why can't we use alternative energy and feed the grid just as easily? We need to build 93 bln worth of power distribution infrastructure for wind but not for nuclear? What the fuck kind of sense does that make?
(Hint: it doesn't make sense)
It doesn't add up. Obama is snowing us again. The "ya ya nuclear" people are either letting Obama snow job them or are paid lobbyists.
So much for "no lobbyist" promises that Obama made. He's full of shit like the rest of them.
> It could be worse, they could be building coal plants instead of wind.
They are. Google: coal plant 2010
I'm sure you can refine the search a little to get better results.
ya but if you went through the trouble to build the linux pc, it takes less time to automate this stuff than it will to answer the phone, drive to your mom's, and reinstall the video driver every time there's a kernel update.
Just sayin...
I know a ton of developers (including myself) that use mac os and apple gear. I also use linux and windows os's. Mac use is actually prevalent with the developers I know.
What I'm using to do what at any moment depends on who is paying my salary, what their requirements are and where I am physically located. If I'm at the beach, I'll be shelled into my servers using ssh over a VPN from the iPhone, on Edge if I have to :-p.
Now you equate GPU speed with power. Like he said, it's not rocket science and that's all that's changed. Figure out the target gaming potential you need to reach, pick out the graphics card(s) that will deliver the performance you need, then pick a CPU that can push the frame rates the graphics card(s) are capable of.
Even with a pair of the newest GPUs out there, pretty much any quad core beyond phenom is powerful enough to push enough frame rate to saturate the GPUs. Any more CPU than this is wasted on gaming. GPU is the bottleneck (assuming 4GB of RAM and a quad core made in the last 2 years) so that's what you need to base the rest of your decisions on and where you need to spend the most money.
The parent's points are all valid. The OP needs only to figure out what GPU he needs to run Oblivion at 1080p. The rest will fall into place by supporting the GPU capability.
I found the answer in under 10 seconds by typing "graphics card performance oblivion 1080p 2010" into google.
He needs at least 2 7900 GTXs running in SLi to get 40fps, a GTX 280 or ATi 4890 would be a much better choice, though he could get by with a single 8800 GTX, which is dirt cheap. I have one sitting on a shelf. It would have trouble with some newer games tho. I have an ATi 4870 and it happily handles most new games with aplomb. I also have a crossfire chipset so when it doesn't, I'll just add another one or get a pair of 4890s.
you rename rpm or yum (or whatever), and write a wrapper script that automates reinstalling the video driver by parsing the output from the package manager and reinstalls the video driver if it sees "kernel" in the package manager output, and/or renames the pm again, replacing it with the script if it sees the name of the package manager.
It's not rocket science. While I agree that linux is not for normal users "out of the box", with a few simple tweaks, you can automate everything.
Linux is an engineer/hobbyist's OS. You can make it do anything you want, including update itself without breaking stuff and other things that would make it suitable for your mom. The distro maintainers aren't allowed to do it because of copyright and the fact that the nVidia vendor driver is closed source. That doesn't mean you can't do it yourself. You also have the choice of using nVidia's proprietary crap or the open source version of the driver, which would also eliminate the problem.
I've seen similar issues on windows (like bluescreens, bad drivers), so it's not like linux is any worse. At least it's predictable. In this case you created your own problem by using nVidia's crap driver instead of the one that came with the distro. Which leads me to the next question. If you are capable of knowing that nVidia's driver existed, and capable of installing it, aren't you capable of writing a simple shell script to handle the driver reinstalls?
quit slackin...
"They're not doing it because they want it; they're doing it because they're paid to do it."
Doesn't this describe just about any paid project? Just sayin'
So how do you know piss can't be tasted in American coffee?
Some of us actually do know all about how grind vs. flow rate and temperature affect extraction, and don't over extract our coffee. Some of us even know all about roasting, what arabica is, and how to hold a conversation about the differences in acidic content between Ethiopean and Sumatra Mandheling, and how their acidity affects the flavor. We know why french roast is used in presses, italian roast is used in espresso machines, and can set a grind and extraction time which will result in perfect crema.
There are several varieties of American coffee which are exquisite. Kona and Blue Mountain are just a couple which are highly sought after.
Not all of them taste like ass. It's poor roasting, brewing and dispensing practices that ruin American brewed coffee you may get in the united states. The coffee is fine. You just need to find a place that can consistently roast coffee correctly, then grind and brew it yourself or go to a coffee house that does it right. Chances are you are better off doing it yourself.
I think your statement should more accurately read "Most americans don't know how to brew and serve coffee". The American coffee itself is not usually the problem.
no the forward looking way to deal with this is to add a second ECM. One ECM controls mission critical stuff (brakes, steering, ignition, gas), and has a very small software package running on it. The other ECM is where the fancy features go, like GPS, dash gauges, radio and everything else that isn't necessary to performing the basic function of being a car.
the first ECM would never get very large. The second would be the wild west...
I own a mustang. The problem with it is the gas pedal is too close to the side of the console. If you push it all the way down it will get stuck, especially if you have an after market carpet in the driver's side and it rides up under the gas pedal.
It's happened to me. Pretty scary actually. Luckily I had the presence of mind to kill it before I rear ended the car in front of me.
My driver's side carpet is now securely velcroed....
If it was a secret, it wouldn't be on slashdot ; )
IANAL but If I slandered my employer on facebook I would expect to be fired. I'm not sure how slandering a teacher at your school is (or should be) any different.
While it's legal, and you are within your free speech rights to post anything you want, that doesn't protect you from repercussions from the organization you are talking smack about. It protects you from getting arrested ; )
The school is well within it's rights to suspend a student who's publicly talking smack about a teacher. Free speech is guaranteed by the constitution, not your school's charter.
IMHO the student made a libelous claim on a public forum. The first amendment doesn't protect her from getting suspended. I guarantee this suit will be dismissed. It should be.
leveling up your alts is a gold sink.
To get to level 2 you need to help 40 old ladies across the street. n00b...
using macros is a ban-able offense. I'm level 80 and you should have to suffer just like I did.
Damned new players and their entitlement mentality.
Now you just have to do it 19 more times to get the tokens you need to flag for the raid.
Fiber is overkill. Fiber is only needed for runs longer than 100m, which is the max length of ethernet over copper.
Personally I'd roll with Cat 6a. It's the right combination of cost and future proofing. You can stream 1080p over 10Mbps with a ton of headroom. I can't realistically ever see data transmission requirements higher than 10Gbps for your house. 10Gbps is way more than enough for a family of 100 to each stream their own 1080p HD movie, surf the internet, and stream mp3s at the same time they are downloading a giant game patch.
read up on what cat 5 is and you'll understand why that idea won't work. The impedance(resistance, ohms) is wrong and you need to have twisted pair to enable reliable 100Mbps transmission speed. The twist of the wire is critical for noise cancellation.
Anyway, by the time you solder up a jig on both ends to make such a solution work you could've pulled new cat5e and have gigabit for your LAN(or Cat 6a for 10Gbps)
If it does work you'll be likely to get errors.
Obama is ignoring solar power. 8bln will buy a 1.3GW facility at the current price of $6000 per MW.
Nuclear is not the answer. It's unsustainable and the wrong thing to do. We could power the entire country with 180 square miles of solar cells used to replace roofs. There's over 1000 square miles of roofs, completely wasted space.
Obama is selling us out. He could use the 56bln planned for nuclear to finance truly clean renewable energy.
Give the homeowners a tax credit to install them then pay them for the power they generate (instead of the power companies). You'd have to be an idiot to not take advantage of that.
Oh here's a link to the policy:
http://supercoverinsurance.com/terms.php
You can disagree all you want, but you are still wrong.
What is not covered, section 2 of the policy:
2. Loss or damage caused by:
you deliberately damaging or neglecting the electronic equipment;
you not following the manufacturer’s instructions;
routine servicing, inspection, maintenance or cleaning;
the use of accessories.
If you smash it with a hammer and represent that it was an accident, to collect, you have committed fraud.
Deliberate destruction of property to collect insurance is called "insurance fraud" and is illegal, no matter how cool someone thinks it is to stick it to the man.
To claim a PhD (or 100000 of them)has enough knowledge to fully understand the dynamics of the climate is not logical.
All we understand is the observed effects of the climate. We can't even predict what the climate will do in one location in 5 days. Assuming we can predict what the entire climate of the earth will do for the next 20 years is folly. Anyone that claims they (or anyone) can strikes me as an idiot.
Climate science is in roughly the same stage in it's lifecycle that medical science was when Alcmaeon performed the first known dissection back in 535 BC. We have only recently, in the last 100 years, been able to observe the climate with any reliable measure.
We're still figuring out the basics. Predicting the behavior of a system you don't understand is impossible. You may as well tape a few thousand possibilities on a wall, blind fold yourself, and throw a dart at the wall. The result will be just as likely to be accurate.
AGW zealots have an argument for everything. No matter what happens your SUV caused it.
I'd like to know why the upper half of the US used to be covered in 4km thick ice until 10000-20000 years ago when it all melted and left the great lakes as well as the finger lakes in new york state. It's been getting warmer ever since, on average.
How does AGW "science" rationalize this?
I knew global warming was happening back in 1979 when I was 10 and read a book about the ice age and how the glaciers covering north America melted. Does anyone really think this is a new phenomenon? The earth freezes and warms up and there's nothing anyone can do about it other than adapt. Get over it. It's a cycle that's 100's of thousands of years long. The earth has always and will always be changing, including the climate and there isn't shit you can do about it.
Eventually we will be back in a deep freeze. Here's a climate theory for you: Shit happens, deal with it.
We don't need AGW to supply a reason to clean up our act. Dirty air and grime on everything is enough reason for me. AGW is a political tool that is taking advantage of a natural cycle to produce profit (via carbon credits) and a reason to jack up our taxes and give special interests money. What's worse is the politicians behind it are hypocrites and waste more energy than any 20 middle class people.
I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to fall for the bullshit. Yes global warming is happening but people have nothing to do with it. Stop being a sucker.
Crysis and lots of other games use multiple cores. The problem is GPUs are the bottleneck. It does no good to have multiple cores if the GPUs can't process the frames as fast as the CPUs can push them. The only game that actually will use 100% of a modern core right now is Crysis. The rest of them easily run on a single core at less than 80% utilization. Get a quad video card set up and you'd see an advantage to a game that used 2 or more cores.
I'm not sure where you got this information from, but it's wrong.
Here's a partial list:
Supreme Commander
Grand Theft Auto 4
Unreal Tournament 3
Flight Simulator X
10tacle: Elevon
Activision/Lionhead: The Movies
Lost Planet
The Last Remnant
Left 4 Dead
ArmA 2
World in Conflict
Crysis
Far Cry 2
Alan Wake
Kingsoft Mission Against Terror
Rybka
Anno 1404: dawn of Discovery
Red Faction: Guerrilla
Operation Flashpoint 2: Dragon Rising
Left For Dead 2
Prototype
Resident Evil 5
Tomb Raider Underworld
Prince of Persia 2008
Shattered Horizon
Left 4 Dead 2
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Aliens vs. Predator
Colin McRae: Dirt 2
Dragon Age
Only problem is when you see a game like this using your cores, it's still dropping frames and your CPUs are at 30-50% because the GPUs just aren't up to snuff yet to take advantage of all this new frame pushing power.
In 2007 the assertion that nothing is using multi core was true. That's all changed, and we've found out that now we need a quad video setup to actually see any advantage to it.
"We do not support construction of new nuclear reactors as a means of addressing the climate crisis. Available renewable energy and energy efficiency technologies are faster, cheaper, safer and cleaner strategies for reducing greenhouse emissions than nuclear power."
"We're getting a little tired hearing nuclear industry lobbyists and pro-nuclear politicians allege that environmentalists are now supporting nuclear power as a means of addressing the climate crisis. We know that's not true, and we're sure you do too. In fact, using nuclear power would be counterproductive at reducing carbon emissions. As Amory Lovins of Rocky Mountain Institute points out, "every dollar invested in nuclear expansion will worsen climate change by buying less solution per dollar..."
http://www.nirs.org/petition2/index.php?r=sb
What are we going to do with the waste? Until I hear a good answer to that question, nuclear power just doesn't cut it from my standpoint. Obama's nuclear plan, just like the rest of his policy, and US government policy in general, is shortsighted and leaves the burden on our kids. If we put 8bln into real solutions, we'd be able to build one.