"Some people say our app store rules are dark and impenetrable, so we're opening things up in order to give everyone a better look at the internal workings."
Actually after taking a second look at the "logic" presented in TFS, it starts making more sense.
Zappa is best appreciated when really stoned or tripping out on acid or mushrooms. That's when the connections and the lyrics in his music suddenly seem so brilliantly clever like an inside joke that nobody else in the room - or in the whole universe - can understand. Similarly, the connections and leaps of logic in the summary are the kind of thing that won't speak to you unless you just sucked back a few bowls or you're otherwise in a state where you could spend 30 straight minutes examining the wrinkle patterns on the backs of your hands.
If you don't like this submission, you're clearly not high enough.
What's the magic FOSS connection to the song "broken hearts are for assholes" and in particular the lyric "You're an asshole, you're an asshole, that's right! You're an asshole, you're an asshole, yes yes!"
I can't seem to find that device on the apple store, or on the at&t website, or on walmart.com... so how exactly is your advice relevant to the average person who happens to find themselves in the middle of a police encounter?
It's all well and fine for you to type this while sitting comfortably at your computer sipping a hot beverage, but in the reality of a moment out on the street, you will find yourself facing a cop (or several) with a baton who takes your recording device away, smashes it into pieces, then proceeds to deliver you a series of injuries consistent with "resisting arrest."
This, and also the fact that your entire mindset will be different when you know you are participating in the greatest voyage humankind has ever contemplated... vs. just being part of some experiment where you are locked up for 500 days.
Okay, what are you personally doing to fight the spread of CCTV throughout the public realm?
What are you personally doing to fight the creation of linked databases from multiple sources (e.g. your employment records, health records, telephone records, amazon.com purchase history, etc.) that perform datamining on the population?
What are you personally doing to fight the pervasive monitoring of all communication media, including the response you are thinking about crafting right now?
Just having a sense of generalized anger or outrage is cool and all, but I'm not sure what social force you think is going to stop - or even slow - the adoption of these increasingly powerful surveillance tools by just about everybody out there with a buck to spend and an interest in you as a citizen, marketing target, voter, potential terrorist, potential employee, etc.
Believe it or not, I'm on your side here. I don't like the idea that in a few more decades there will be no such thing as privacy. I'm afraid I just don't see our current trajectory heading in any other direction but one.
It is not the technology you should be worried about, it is the erosion of rights against unlawful search (including surveillance) and seizure you need to watch out for.
These are more linked than you're willing to admit. The availability of these tools and technologies is like candy to those who already have an ideological proclivity to "bend the rules." I agree that accountability is really important in this debate and that the erosion of rights is a big problem. But I'm less convinced that a bunch of people claiming something is illegal is going to do much to delay the creation of "new normal" where privacy is concerned.
Good point. No government or corporation in human history has ever done anything illegal, especially when they have the means to do it completely undetected.
Not too long ago, people would have branded you a kook had you suggested there would one day be devices that can look under your clothes to capture an image of your skin, genitals, and anything you might be carrying on your person.
I walked through one of those very devices last week at the airport when I flew home.
Today, a hobbyist could easily build an autonomous surveillance robot the size of a small rodent that has everything it needs to capture sound and audio and either store the resulting feed or stream it to a server somewhere. In 20 more years, how much smaller than "rodent" do you think that robot could be? How about 50 years? And what about if it's a government or corporate lab with a big budget building the thing rather than a hobbyist?
I'll say it again: I hope you're not too attached to the notion of privacy.
True story: I typed a very similar program into a display model Commodore 64 in a department store, except I didn't make lines 20-30 an endless loop, I made it a for/next loop of 1-100 then cleared the screen and returned to the "what is your name" prompt.
Then I hung back with my other nerd friends and we laughed our asses off while a string of unwitting shoppers fell into our "trap"
Of course, other kids our age used their after school time to do things like playing sports or getting to second base with their girlfriends.
Who said anything about cameras? Think about the ways in which technology has changed over the past 50 years. Now project forward (or attempt to) 50 years while accounting for the fact technological advancement is accelerating.
Fifty years from now, if somebody says "I'm safe from surveillance here. There are no cameras in this house," the correct response will be "awwww, aren't you cute!"
Personally, I'd love to see a system that automatically monitors video footage of every single highway merge ramp in the city where I live. Maybe if all those assholes who fly up the shoulder and cut in at the last second (in order to gain a dozen car lengths when merging onto the highway) were to get an automated $90 ticket in the mail two weeks later, they'd catch the hint.
When everything goes completely to shit and I'm huddled in some parched wasteland with a band of emaciated survivors, I'm going to use my dying breath to yell "Jenga!!!"
I suppose I'd animate that as a bunch of letters aimlessly milling about while discordant music plays in the background. Then the letters eventually align themselves into the two words, but it's limp and dangles downward at the end, like it can't muster the energy to be a solid, rigid phrase.
it is way beyond the point at which I give a flying fuck
The reason you give a flying fuck is that an event like this (a supernova the brightness of the full moon lasting for weeks or months) will bring out all of people's craziest fears. For some span of time, society will operate in a significantly less rational way. So you want to do your best to figure out two things: how long will this period of irrational behaviour last, and will that irrational behaviour manifest in ways that affect me?
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Exactly. Like this guy.
plus there would be a couple thousand riders paperclipped to it
Classic.
The jokes just write themselves!
"Some people say our app store rules are dark and impenetrable, so we're opening things up in order to give everyone a better look at the internal workings."
Don't worry, I'm sure he's holed up somewhere safe by now.
Actually after taking a second look at the "logic" presented in TFS, it starts making more sense.
Zappa is best appreciated when really stoned or tripping out on acid or mushrooms. That's when the connections and the lyrics in his music suddenly seem so brilliantly clever like an inside joke that nobody else in the room - or in the whole universe - can understand. Similarly, the connections and leaps of logic in the summary are the kind of thing that won't speak to you unless you just sucked back a few bowls or you're otherwise in a state where you could spend 30 straight minutes examining the wrinkle patterns on the backs of your hands.
If you don't like this submission, you're clearly not high enough.
What's the magic FOSS connection to the song "broken hearts are for assholes" and in particular the lyric "You're an asshole, you're an asshole, that's right! You're an asshole, you're an asshole, yes yes!"
I can't seem to find that device on the apple store, or on the at&t website, or on walmart.com ... so how exactly is your advice relevant to the average person who happens to find themselves in the middle of a police encounter?
Therefore futile = voltage / current
It's all well and fine for you to type this while sitting comfortably at your computer sipping a hot beverage, but in the reality of a moment out on the street, you will find yourself facing a cop (or several) with a baton who takes your recording device away, smashes it into pieces, then proceeds to deliver you a series of injuries consistent with "resisting arrest."
In Soviet Russia, isolation breaks you!
This, and also the fact that your entire mindset will be different when you know you are participating in the greatest voyage humankind has ever contemplated ... vs. just being part of some experiment where you are locked up for 500 days.
Fight it.
Okay, what are you personally doing to fight the spread of CCTV throughout the public realm?
What are you personally doing to fight the creation of linked databases from multiple sources (e.g. your employment records, health records, telephone records, amazon.com purchase history, etc.) that perform datamining on the population?
What are you personally doing to fight the pervasive monitoring of all communication media, including the response you are thinking about crafting right now?
Just having a sense of generalized anger or outrage is cool and all, but I'm not sure what social force you think is going to stop - or even slow - the adoption of these increasingly powerful surveillance tools by just about everybody out there with a buck to spend and an interest in you as a citizen, marketing target, voter, potential terrorist, potential employee, etc.
Believe it or not, I'm on your side here. I don't like the idea that in a few more decades there will be no such thing as privacy. I'm afraid I just don't see our current trajectory heading in any other direction but one.
It is not the technology you should be worried about, it is the erosion of rights against unlawful search (including surveillance) and seizure you need to watch out for.
These are more linked than you're willing to admit. The availability of these tools and technologies is like candy to those who already have an ideological proclivity to "bend the rules." I agree that accountability is really important in this debate and that the erosion of rights is a big problem. But I'm less convinced that a bunch of people claiming something is illegal is going to do much to delay the creation of "new normal" where privacy is concerned.
Good point. No government or corporation in human history has ever done anything illegal, especially when they have the means to do it completely undetected.
Not too long ago, people would have branded you a kook had you suggested there would one day be devices that can look under your clothes to capture an image of your skin, genitals, and anything you might be carrying on your person.
I walked through one of those very devices last week at the airport when I flew home.
Today, a hobbyist could easily build an autonomous surveillance robot the size of a small rodent that has everything it needs to capture sound and audio and either store the resulting feed or stream it to a server somewhere. In 20 more years, how much smaller than "rodent" do you think that robot could be? How about 50 years? And what about if it's a government or corporate lab with a big budget building the thing rather than a hobbyist?
I'll say it again: I hope you're not too attached to the notion of privacy.
True story: I typed a very similar program into a display model Commodore 64 in a department store, except I didn't make lines 20-30 an endless loop, I made it a for/next loop of 1-100 then cleared the screen and returned to the "what is your name" prompt.
Then I hung back with my other nerd friends and we laughed our asses off while a string of unwitting shoppers fell into our "trap"
Of course, other kids our age used their after school time to do things like playing sports or getting to second base with their girlfriends.
Who said anything about cameras? Think about the ways in which technology has changed over the past 50 years. Now project forward (or attempt to) 50 years while accounting for the fact technological advancement is accelerating.
Fifty years from now, if somebody says "I'm safe from surveillance here. There are no cameras in this house," the correct response will be "awwww, aren't you cute!"
Personally, I'd love to see a system that automatically monitors video footage of every single highway merge ramp in the city where I live. Maybe if all those assholes who fly up the shoulder and cut in at the last second (in order to gain a dozen car lengths when merging onto the highway) were to get an automated $90 ticket in the mail two weeks later, they'd catch the hint.
And sooner than you think, the same will be true for when you're not "out in public" but are in your own home.
Hope you're not attached to the notion of privacy.
When everything goes completely to shit and I'm huddled in some parched wasteland with a band of emaciated survivors, I'm going to use my dying breath to yell "Jenga!!!"
We have a lot less work ahead of us that originally anticipated. Only 5.499999 million to go!
epic fail?
I suppose I'd animate that as a bunch of letters aimlessly milling about while discordant music plays in the background. Then the letters eventually align themselves into the two words, but it's limp and dangles downward at the end, like it can't muster the energy to be a solid, rigid phrase.
Wow. Who knew Jeff Foxworthy had a slashdot account!
it is way beyond the point at which I give a flying fuck
The reason you give a flying fuck is that an event like this (a supernova the brightness of the full moon lasting for weeks or months) will bring out all of people's craziest fears. For some span of time, society will operate in a significantly less rational way. So you want to do your best to figure out two things: how long will this period of irrational behaviour last, and will that irrational behaviour manifest in ways that affect me?