You’re also begging the question... not all e-books have a search function. A lot of the time they just half-ass it and scan the pages with no OCR... then they expect you to pay the same for that as you’d pay for a real book. WTF?
Spread over the thousands (or millions) of units that are produced, that cost is relatively minor compared to the cost of producing the actual unit. It is natural to conclude that a digital copy should cost much less because you don’t have to pay for the physical object.
A digital copy can be copied which essentially costs nothing, and so you can get even more volume, spreading that R&D and marketing over even more people and costing even less. That was my whole point.
The cost of a book is tangible. Chipping, pressing, bleaching, cutting, printing, binding, packaging, storing, transporting, vending. It happens every time a copy is sold. When you buy a copy, that is what you’re paying for. A tangible good.
The cost of a PDF is intangible. Writing, typesetting, marketing, webhosting. It already happened. It happened once; it’s paid for. Millions of copies can be sold with very negligible overhead. It’s nothing but a giant number. Ones and zeros. Costly to produce, but easy to replicate.
£9 for an e-book is borderline ridiculous in my opinion. I guess some people will buy that, though.
Oh! I’m terribly sorry. When comparing two trolls – those Facebook users, and yourself – it’s naturally possible to get them confused when one of the trolls denounces trolling, then claims it applied to the other troll, not himself.
Me? I am nothing. Nothing but a troll trolling trolls. They keep biting, this must be good bait.
You think I am angry? How funny. I am not angry. I am laughing. I am laughing at you. You are funny. You are hilarious. Your hysteria is hysterical. YOU are the one who is apparently angry. Your original post just oozes with your repressed anger, rotting hatred and stifled frustration. But oddly enough you think I am angry. Why is that? Is this what psychologists call projecting? Or is it just the psychotic need to have your own statements "confirmed true", hence you'll imagine any such thing that will confirm to your own delusions that everything's safe and your little world won't fall apart on you?
You're a funny little man, clown. Do you have any other tricks, or is Troll all you've got?
Fucking hell. I came back to check this thread and it appears he’s a complete freaking psycho. Luckily in America (most states, anyway) it’d be perfectly legal to shoot a moron like him if he actually tried to act out one of his thinly-veiled threats against you.
Eh? Implying that white people know what human bodies are worth (because they own slaves, of course!) isn’t supposed to be offensive?
Saying someone’s going to die before you because their Slashdot UID is lower than yours isn’t supposed to be offensive?
Taking one person’s comment, making an asshole of yourself, and then claiming that all Indians are assholes when in fact you are the one who is making an asshole of himself – that isn’t offensive?
Joking about waiting for someone’s house to get blown up because *gasp* he dared to say something that offended some Muslims? You, sir, have no class. None at all.
And last but not least, moderation is earned. Whining when the mods give you bad karma is pathetic. Stop.
You’ve earned a freak. I’d be honoured if you chose to make me a foe, too.
How about, STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY?... They have nothing better to worry about?... Time well spent, you goofs.... Glad to see they have their priorities straight.
They obviously have more money than they know what to do with... I’m accepting donations, they should’ve just asked.
I was thinking of something more along the lines of a hack to dim the contrast drastically when a bright flash is detected, but that actually might work just as well... albeit it would require an extra input (speed), which might be a more difficult hard-hack.
To contrast with that, in American culture even if your parents disowned you your extended family would probably still speak to you and your friends would probably actually be supportive of you. There definitely wouldn’t be the same sense of public humiliation to the degree that there would be in a Muslim society.
Well, it really does depend somewhat on the circumstances. Your family would consider you to be essentially dead so your relatives would have absolutely nothing to do with you. Most of your acquaintances would also avoid you, but in a large enough city you could probably get by because most people wouldn’t know who you were or know that you’d been disgraced. However in a small town everyone would know about it and you’d likely have no choice but move away because nobody would associate with you publicly (especially if you had deserted Islam)... due to the familial ties you’d probably be related to half the people in town anyway, at least by marriage, and news would spread quickly.
Anyway that is the information I have gathered from the stuff I have read; you’d have to read up on some stuff on your own to find out whether it’s generally true or not. I tried Google but the signal-to-noise was pretty low... mainly discussing whether or not children should be disowned for marrying non-Muslims, or asking how to get their family to approve of such a marriage without being disowned, which isn’t what I was looking for.
In the Christians’ opinion, you are openly, unrepentantly, and unapologetically violating one of their unequivocal moral beliefs. What makes you think you’ll be welcomed there? Why would you even want to?
To borrow the example that was batted around earlier, Christians will tend to be very supportive and compassionate toward a girl who screwed up, got pregnant, and obviously needs some help managing the crisis she’s found herself in. However if this girl then goes out and gets an abortion, and then she continues sleeping around, why is she even going to that church? She’s openly slapping the church, its leaders, and their beliefs in the face by her actions. At some point they’ll confront her and ask her to find somewhere else to go where people share her sense of morality.
In short, if everyone at one place thinks that X isn’t acceptable and you think it is, then stop going there and find some other place where people agree with you on X.
It’d be equally stupid, pointless, and inappropriate for me to deliberately try to join a group of GLBT folks wearing a rainbow T-shirt that read “Love the sinner, hate the sin”. I’d fully expect to be told, in no uncertain terms, that I didn’t belong there, and there’s a good chance “polite” wouldn’t be entirely applicable to the manner in which I’d be asked to leave.
He’s not just one crazy lawyer, he’s the chairman of the Judicial Activism Panel... a public interest litigation firm which, ironically, is always telling the United States courts to release people we’re holding.
Even users with excellent karma are limited to 50 posts per 24 hours. You can post a few extra times as Anonymous Coward, but that ability tends to be even more quickly depleted. After a while you’ll just get a message reading, “You have used this resource too much recently. Please try again later.” or something to that effect.
If you get down-modded it also cuts down on your posting ability.
Slashdot Mirror
You’re also begging the question... not all e-books have a search function. A lot of the time they just half-ass it and scan the pages with no OCR... then they expect you to pay the same for that as you’d pay for a real book. WTF?
Well, no, but that’s beside the point. The heavier one, despite its lack of a search function, is actually much more costly to produce.
facebook ... backwards shithole, filled with idiots ... kill them all.
i never declared hate towards anyone.
Spread over the thousands (or millions) of units that are produced, that cost is relatively minor compared to the cost of producing the actual unit. It is natural to conclude that a digital copy should cost much less because you don’t have to pay for the physical object.
A digital copy can be copied which essentially costs nothing, and so you can get even more volume, spreading that R&D and marketing over even more people and costing even less. That was my whole point.
The cost of a book is tangible. Chipping, pressing, bleaching, cutting, printing, binding, packaging, storing, transporting, vending. It happens every time a copy is sold. When you buy a copy, that is what you’re paying for. A tangible good.
The cost of a PDF is intangible. Writing, typesetting, marketing, webhosting. It already happened. It happened once; it’s paid for. Millions of copies can be sold with very negligible overhead. It’s nothing but a giant number. Ones and zeros. Costly to produce, but easy to replicate.
£9 for an e-book is borderline ridiculous in my opinion. I guess some people will buy that, though.
Oh! I’m terribly sorry. When comparing two trolls – those Facebook users, and yourself – it’s naturally possible to get them confused when one of the trolls denounces trolling, then claims it applied to the other troll, not himself.
Me? I am nothing. Nothing but a troll trolling trolls. They keep biting, this must be good bait.
You think I am angry? How funny. I am not angry. I am laughing. I am laughing at you. You are funny. You are hilarious. Your hysteria is hysterical. YOU are the one who is apparently angry. Your original post just oozes with your repressed anger, rotting hatred and stifled frustration. But oddly enough you think I am angry. Why is that? Is this what psychologists call projecting? Or is it just the psychotic need to have your own statements "confirmed true", hence you'll imagine any such thing that will confirm to your own delusions that everything's safe and your little world won't fall apart on you?
You're a funny little man, clown. Do you have any other tricks, or is Troll all you've got?
Hey, dipshit. Why don’t you track him down, show up at his house, and make your threats in person? I hope you do. I hope he kills you.
Fucking internet tough guy. Of course you won’t.
Fucking hell. I came back to check this thread and it appears he’s a complete freaking psycho. Luckily in America (most states, anyway) it’d be perfectly legal to shoot a moron like him if he actually tried to act out one of his thinly-veiled threats against you.
Fuck yeah, America.
Eh? Implying that white people know what human bodies are worth (because they own slaves, of course!) isn’t supposed to be offensive?
Saying someone’s going to die before you because their Slashdot UID is lower than yours isn’t supposed to be offensive?
Taking one person’s comment, making an asshole of yourself, and then claiming that all Indians are assholes when in fact you are the one who is making an asshole of himself – that isn’t offensive?
Joking about waiting for someone’s house to get blown up because *gasp* he dared to say something that offended some Muslims? You, sir, have no class. None at all.
And last but not least, moderation is earned. Whining when the mods give you bad karma is pathetic. Stop.
You’ve earned a freak. I’d be honoured if you chose to make me a foe, too.
I tip my hat to you, sir. That was good.
Hey, you, assh*** where the f**k did you learn to drive?!!!
Likely response:
“California, (expletive)... where did YOU learn to drive?”
But it’ll be $1.50 off the normal price of the plates!
(replace with other trivially-small amount that people will probably still go for)
Hmm. Troll? Why?
Is it because he pointed out a problem without offering a solution?
How about, STOP SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY? ... They have nothing better to worry about? ... Time well spent, you goofs. ... Glad to see they have their priorities straight.
They obviously have more money than they know what to do with... I’m accepting donations, they should’ve just asked.
I was thinking of something more along the lines of a hack to dim the contrast drastically when a bright flash is detected, but that actually might work just as well... albeit it would require an extra input (speed), which might be a more difficult hard-hack.
Bullshit. In America, maybe, but certainly not in a Muslim country.
To contrast with that, in American culture even if your parents disowned you your extended family would probably still speak to you and your friends would probably actually be supportive of you. There definitely wouldn’t be the same sense of public humiliation to the degree that there would be in a Muslim society.
Well, it really does depend somewhat on the circumstances. Your family would consider you to be essentially dead so your relatives would have absolutely nothing to do with you. Most of your acquaintances would also avoid you, but in a large enough city you could probably get by because most people wouldn’t know who you were or know that you’d been disgraced. However in a small town everyone would know about it and you’d likely have no choice but move away because nobody would associate with you publicly (especially if you had deserted Islam)... due to the familial ties you’d probably be related to half the people in town anyway, at least by marriage, and news would spread quickly.
Anyway that is the information I have gathered from the stuff I have read; you’d have to read up on some stuff on your own to find out whether it’s generally true or not. I tried Google but the signal-to-noise was pretty low... mainly discussing whether or not children should be disowned for marrying non-Muslims, or asking how to get their family to approve of such a marriage without being disowned, which isn’t what I was looking for.
In the Christians’ opinion, you are openly, unrepentantly, and unapologetically violating one of their unequivocal moral beliefs. What makes you think you’ll be welcomed there? Why would you even want to?
To borrow the example that was batted around earlier, Christians will tend to be very supportive and compassionate toward a girl who screwed up, got pregnant, and obviously needs some help managing the crisis she’s found herself in. However if this girl then goes out and gets an abortion, and then she continues sleeping around, why is she even going to that church? She’s openly slapping the church, its leaders, and their beliefs in the face by her actions. At some point they’ll confront her and ask her to find somewhere else to go where people share her sense of morality.
In short, if everyone at one place thinks that X isn’t acceptable and you think it is, then stop going there and find some other place where people agree with you on X.
It’d be equally stupid, pointless, and inappropriate for me to deliberately try to join a group of GLBT folks wearing a rainbow T-shirt that read “Love the sinner, hate the sin”. I’d fully expect to be told, in no uncertain terms, that I didn’t belong there, and there’s a good chance “polite” wouldn’t be entirely applicable to the manner in which I’d be asked to leave.
I had no idea that’s what you meant. Yeah, it sounds plausible.
He’s not just one crazy lawyer, he’s the chairman of the Judicial Activism Panel... a public interest litigation firm which, ironically, is always telling the United States courts to release people we’re holding.
Even users with excellent karma are limited to 50 posts per 24 hours. You can post a few extra times as Anonymous Coward, but that ability tends to be even more quickly depleted. After a while you’ll just get a message reading, “You have used this resource too much recently. Please try again later.” or something to that effect.
If you get down-modded it also cuts down on your posting ability.
I wasn’t talking about you; I was talking about this guy:
idiots who will insult your religion just because they know nothing makes you more mad.
kill them all.
I’m pretty sure it’s the latter.