What was your score? Another thing that makes me suspicious is that I didn't actually post anything - I just pasted in a URL that dialected the the copyright violation notice, or some such. Being, as it was, a cut and paste, it got moderated up to 4 (like all cut and pastes do:P ).
So, I'm saying, my post was a no-op. No content, nothing with which to agree. That email is spam.
Come on, someone else has to have gotten this. Speak up!
did you get the mail, or not? i really want to know if someone is evil enough to harvest addresses from a/. posting and spam to them regarding some stupid article on news.com - especually since i really like that site.
And I don't mean M$, for once. Just like an all-asian society is equally as racist as an all-caucasian society, so is a 'club' that does not allow men equally as sexist as a 'club' that does not allow women.
And, the 'greyday' thing makes me ill. If every page on the web was plain and grey with nothing but content, well, we'd have a super-fast, zero bullshit, banner ad-free resource from which to draw. Gee, that would sure suck, wouldn't it?
At some point, people have to realize that equality means equality - working together as equals, not apart as 'equals.' Espousing 'women can do it just as well as, or better than men' is not a stance of equality, it is a stance of separation. I'm sorry we've had a male-dominated society for the last 6,000 or so years, I realize it sucks - get over it, your short-sighted approach is not helping.
At least, here in Raleigh it is.. The really, really high paying jobs are still those for people with 7-10 years experience as a programmer/admin/project manager - and companies looking to fill those spots usually want more mature people.
it's not that difficult.. "it" being porting linux to a NUMA-Q.
Really? So you've done this?
uhhhm... you're talking about two different things. i said 'porting linux to a numa-q.' numa-q is a brand name of a type of (x86) server. so, there's really no porting of linux to be done.
you said 'coding an OS for numa,' which is completely different from what i said. you prolly meant, in the context of linux, 'coding numa for an OS,' but, whatever.
and yes, i've heard of the ASCI boxen.
have you ever used DYNIX side by side with IRIX in a NUMA environment? I guess it's really apples to oranges, because of the processor difference, but I'd be interested to see how an equitable comparison would look.
I may be misunderstanding but, from what I understand NUMA is not strictly for multiple boxen. I was more under the impression it was the middle step between SMP and MPP clusters...
An actual NUMA-Q server is a (up to) 4-way Xeon box in a 4X rack cabinet. NUMA is software that lets a bunch of those share RAM and processor time. Sequent (IBM) recently overcame the old 64 processor limit on their NUMA implementation.
Maxed out, with the enterprise cabinet, 4GB of RAM and 100GB of storage, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Sequent's web site seems to be down right now.. (cough). Heh.
And, as to why you might want one, we average over 400 processes at any given time with a load avg of around, uhm, zero, on our production box. These things can take a LOT of abuse.
But 64?? How about wasting 60 of those CPU's. Whats the point. At this time if you want that many cpu's in the same box you should stick with IRIX, etc. Linux is working on it but it isn't even close yet......
I'm pretty sure it's not a 64-way SMP box. It's 16, 4 way SMP boxes in giant purple cabinets.
The article is misleading. NUMA is not the same as SMP. Hope that helps.
Btw, these boxes also all run NT. (but who cares?):P
That will give you a much more robust solution, at a lower price point, and give you the flexibility to optimize the system for YOUR apps, not how the scheduler wants to distribute your data across a non uniform access time memory pool. And don't get me started about SANS, compared to a true cluster IO system...
What if I were to get you started about run queues?:P You can totally limit any application, service, resource, or whatever in DYNIX to however many processors (out of the NUMA cluster) or RAM (also) you want it to have.
Also, no one who buys them pays full price. People who buy a lot get a massive, massive discount.
And they're purple. (well, they used to be in a purple cabinet)
Honestly, though, I have no idea why anyone buys them. I love the one we have, but, well.. I woulda bought a bunch of rack-mounted alphas. I guess people buy them for the same reason all large corporate purchases go through -
Someone made a well-timed compliment to someone else's golf fame.
(NUMA is a method of sharing CPU and RAM access across mutliple boxen)
NUMA-Q's are x86 boxen. They have some really, really, really cool features. I do wonder if IBM plans to write drivers for the FibreChannel SCSI adaptors and etc that come standard with most NUMAs.
OTOH, there is noooo reason not to use dynix on a NUMA. It's included with the (MASSIVE) cost of the box, it's based on BSD, it's a nice OS with tons of kick-ass features, and it's symbiotically enmeshed into these servers.
Hey, I wonder if IBM is actually gonna write a NUMA layer for linux? I mean, if they don't then all you end up with a buncha 4-way rack mounted linux boxes.. for $365,000 apiece.
One other thing, Sequent (now IBM) has the absolute best support I have ever seen. I have sent email to their web site about completely esoteric crap and had them call me back and get a dialogue open with the developer of whatever I was having trouble with. If you've got the cash and don't wanna deal with Solaris, DYNIX is the way to go.
-- blue, who is wearing his Sequent hat today.
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Oh, and I'm always a girl when I am in chatrooms. I've been doing that for years. I'm only a 40 year old male in meatspace.
Well, I'm sorry that you're so unhappy with who you are that you've spent the last couple of years masquerading as a foreign woman in a chat room.
Maybe you should get some therapy, or talk with your insurance company about getting gender-transitive surgery.
You know why you've never heard that? Because if they said it, the government would come kill their children.
Look, as I clearly stated, I understand that atrocities do happen. Give me at least a little credit.
The people with whom I have spoken in chat, as well as the people I have met who have immigrated from China, just don't strike me as being horrified and repressed victims of a facist regime. It's not like talking with or reading stories written by people from Cambodia under Pol Pot - China is a very, very different society from ours. To hold them to western standards without a little digging into their history and culture is wrong.
It's not like these sorts of things never happen in the USA. People get dragged off to jail all the time for stupid reasons. Sure, maybe they don't get nailed down to a piece of plywood for months on end, but if they did, would we hear about it?
I'm just asking all of you to have a little objectivity about the whole situation. I personally think that the 'communist' gonvernment in China sucks rocks - but I also think that our government, or any government more concerned with self-preservation than with the advancement, culturally and technologically, of its people, sucks just as much.
-- blue
I don't think it's as bad as people make it sound.
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I chat with a lot of people from China, and they're always suprised to hear what Americans think life is like over there.. I ask them if it's ok to say anything they want in chat, and I've never had anyone say 'well, no, I can't talk about the government, because they'll come and kill my children.'
I believe that crappy things DO happen to dissenters in China, and I think it's wrong as wrong can be, but I wish everyone would take ANYTHING coming from the American press with a big-ass grain of salt. They (the press) are only out to make money, and writing stories about how life over there isn't that much different from life anywhere else does not pay the bills.
uh.. they pick COREL linux as their fave of the herd.. i mean.. come on.. corel? it absolutely sucks raw baby mice.
not that any other linux distro would have done better in a 'desktop OS' deathmatch, but that's another story.. the least they could have done was pick a good distro.
And if it's going to ask me what my monitor is then it should believe me when I tell it the answer. I've had linux tell me I gave it the wrong monitor info, if it knows enough to tell me the info I gave it is wrong, why doesn't it give itself the RIGHT info? It's silly.
Hi. I'm really curious about a few things.
1) What the hell are you talking about? Linux doesn't care at all what monitor you use. Are you meaning to say 'X windows' is wanting that info or are you meaning that "linux" wants 'my monitor's refresh rate capabilities?'
2) What distro are you using that does all of this?
IBM has been working on, and has actually built and tested, a 1GHZ PPC chip. I supported the UNIX boxen involved when I worked there.
I'm not sure why it's not on the market, since the live chip test was well over a year ago. Maybe they're soaking as much cash as they can out of the lower-speed chips.
aren't likely to buy the album at the price that the RIAA wants to charge for it.
That is exactly the crux of the matter. Musicians or no, this whole thing is about money money money, and not just a fair amount of money, but the greatest amount of cash they can wring from you. -- 'whatever the market will bear.' Napster lowers the cost ceiling by maybe a buck or two, and that could end up costing the RIAA billions..
the people would simply make better music and give it away for free. most OSS authors will go out of their way to remove and replace proprietary/copyright code from their projects - if for nothing other than pride.
stealing really is just stealing. if you like the music, buy the @Q#$@!# cd.
The report recommends that the digital copyright law be amended "to hold Napster, its users, and similar services accountable for copyright violations while maintaining protections from liability for service providers that are innocent bystanders to digital piracy."
Yoiks! So, they're trying to define 'service provider' in such a way that includes anyone who provides access to copyrighted material. I think Taco's comparison to nfs and port 80 is, (surprise!) uselessly inflammatory, but the change in the law could lead to a UK-ish sort of 'fear of liability' in service providers.
Interestingly, it seems weighted toward punishing companies, and does not mention person-to-person file transfers..
Short-sighted and useless.. I say, let them pass it, then use it as fuel to repeal the entire morass of crap that is the DMCA.
but news.com has a big story on it right now - apparently HP is releasing an itanium emulator for people to use to test ia-64 code on, code compiled with SGI's OSS ia-64 compiler.:P
apparently, there are only about 3,000 working ia-64 systems in the universe right now. (barring, of course, extra-terrestrial coincidental development of the ia-64)
The evidence showed "Microsoft's illegal conduct eliminated the serious threat that the browser and Java posed" to Windows.
Which I think is really funny, because, all rhetoric aside, java never was (and probably never will be) a threat to windows. This is exactly like saying that perl is a threat to windows.. It's all just claptrap created by people who get paid to regurgitate marketing rhetoric. Netscape said 'the browser will make the OS less important.. ' so the pundits said 'the browser will kill windows!' Heh, it just aint so. Same thing, to a much greater degree, with java.
Aint it ironic that the findings of a case against Microsoft, of all companies, come down to spin on marketing?
Slashdot Mirror
heh. it's not spam.
welcome to life in the fast lane.
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What was your score? Another thing that makes me suspicious is that I didn't actually post anything - I just pasted in a URL that dialected the the copyright violation notice, or some such. Being, as it was, a cut and paste, it got moderated up to 4 (like all cut and pastes do :P ).
So, I'm saying, my post was a no-op. No content, nothing with which to agree. That email is spam.
Come on, someone else has to have gotten this. Speak up!
did you get the mail, or not? i really want to know if someone is evil enough to harvest addresses from a /. posting and spam to them regarding some stupid article on news.com - especually since i really like that site.
paul steed isn't a developer, he's an animator/modeler.
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And I don't mean M$, for once. Just like an all-asian society is equally as racist as an all-caucasian society, so is a 'club' that does not allow men equally as sexist as a 'club' that does not allow women.
And, the 'greyday' thing makes me ill. If every page on the web was plain and grey with nothing but content, well, we'd have a super-fast, zero bullshit, banner ad-free resource from which to draw. Gee, that would sure suck, wouldn't it?
At some point, people have to realize that equality means equality - working together as equals, not apart as 'equals.' Espousing 'women can do it just as well as, or better than men' is not a stance of equality, it is a stance of separation. I'm sorry we've had a male-dominated society for the last 6,000 or so years, I realize it sucks - get over it, your short-sighted approach is not helping.
Thanks.
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At least, here in Raleigh it is.. The really, really high paying jobs are still those for people with 7-10 years experience as a programmer/admin/project manager - and companies looking to fill those spots usually want more mature people.
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blue
it's not that difficult.. "it" being porting linux to a NUMA-Q.
Really? So you've done this?
uhhhm... you're talking about two different things. i said 'porting linux to a numa-q.' numa-q is a brand name of a type of (x86) server. so, there's really no porting of linux to be done.
you said 'coding an OS for numa,' which is completely different from what i said. you prolly meant, in the context of linux, 'coding numa for an OS,' but, whatever.
and yes, i've heard of the ASCI boxen.
have you ever used DYNIX side by side with IRIX in a NUMA environment? I guess it's really apples to oranges, because of the processor difference, but I'd be interested to see how an equitable comparison would look.
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NT or DYNIX. No OS/2.
I can't wait to play Quake on one. Anybody want to give it to me for my birthday?
:P
There's no video card. There's also no keyboard or mouse port.
Should be a fun game of quake.
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I may be misunderstanding but, from what I understand NUMA is not strictly for multiple boxen. I was more under the impression it was the middle step between SMP and MPP clusters...
An actual NUMA-Q server is a (up to) 4-way Xeon box in a 4X rack cabinet. NUMA is software that lets a bunch of those share RAM and processor time. Sequent (IBM) recently overcame the old 64 processor limit on their NUMA implementation.
Maxed out, with the enterprise cabinet, 4GB of RAM and 100GB of storage, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Sequent's web site seems to be down right now.. (cough). Heh.
And, as to why you might want one, we average over 400 processes at any given time with a load avg of around, uhm, zero, on our production box. These things can take a LOT of abuse.
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But 64?? How about wasting 60 of those CPU's. Whats the point. At this time if you want that many cpu's in the same box you should stick with IRIX, etc. Linux is working on it but it isn't even close yet......
:P
I'm pretty sure it's not a 64-way SMP box. It's 16, 4 way SMP boxes in giant purple cabinets.
The article is misleading. NUMA is not the same as SMP. Hope that helps.
Btw, these boxes also all run NT. (but who cares?)
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That will give you a much more robust solution, at a lower price point, and give you the flexibility to optimize the system for YOUR apps, not how the scheduler wants to distribute your data across a non uniform access time memory pool. And don't get me started about SANS, compared to a true cluster IO system...
:P You can totally limit any application, service, resource, or whatever in DYNIX to however many processors (out of the NUMA cluster) or RAM (also) you want it to have.
What if I were to get you started about run queues?
Also, no one who buys them pays full price. People who buy a lot get a massive, massive discount.
And they're purple. (well, they used to be in a purple cabinet)
Honestly, though, I have no idea why anyone buys them. I love the one we have, but, well.. I woulda bought a bunch of rack-mounted alphas. I guess people buy them for the same reason all large corporate purchases go through -
Someone made a well-timed compliment to someone else's golf fame.
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blue
"it" being porting linux to a NUMA-Q.
(NUMA is a method of sharing CPU and RAM access across mutliple boxen)
NUMA-Q's are x86 boxen. They have some really, really, really cool features. I do wonder if IBM plans to write drivers for the FibreChannel SCSI adaptors and etc that come standard with most NUMAs.
OTOH, there is noooo reason not to use dynix on a NUMA. It's included with the (MASSIVE) cost of the box, it's based on BSD, it's a nice OS with tons of kick-ass features, and it's symbiotically enmeshed into these servers.
Hey, I wonder if IBM is actually gonna write a NUMA layer for linux? I mean, if they don't then all you end up with a buncha 4-way rack mounted linux boxes.. for $365,000 apiece.
One other thing, Sequent (now IBM) has the absolute best support I have ever seen. I have sent email to their web site about completely esoteric crap and had them call me back and get a dialogue open with the developer of whatever I was having trouble with. If you've got the cash and don't wanna deal with Solaris, DYNIX is the way to go.
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blue, who is wearing his Sequent hat today.
Oh, and I'm always a girl when I am in chatrooms. I've been doing that for years. I'm only a 40 year old male in meatspace.
Well, I'm sorry that you're so unhappy with who you are that you've spent the last couple of years masquerading as a foreign woman in a chat room.
Maybe you should get some therapy, or talk with your insurance company about getting gender-transitive surgery.
a/s/l?!?!
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blue
You know why you've never heard that? Because if they said it, the government would come kill their children.
Look, as I clearly stated, I understand that atrocities do happen. Give me at least a little credit.
The people with whom I have spoken in chat, as well as the people I have met who have immigrated from China, just don't strike me as being horrified and repressed victims of a facist regime. It's not like talking with or reading stories written by people from Cambodia under Pol Pot - China is a very, very different society from ours. To hold them to western standards without a little digging into their history and culture is wrong.
It's not like these sorts of things never happen in the USA. People get dragged off to jail all the time for stupid reasons. Sure, maybe they don't get nailed down to a piece of plywood for months on end, but if they did, would we hear about it?
I'm just asking all of you to have a little objectivity about the whole situation. I personally think that the 'communist' gonvernment in China sucks rocks - but I also think that our government, or any government more concerned with self-preservation than with the advancement, culturally and technologically, of its people, sucks just as much.
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I chat with a lot of people from China, and they're always suprised to hear what Americans think life is like over there.. I ask them if it's ok to say anything they want in chat, and I've never had anyone say 'well, no, I can't talk about the government, because they'll come and kill my children.'
I believe that crappy things DO happen to dissenters in China, and I think it's wrong as wrong can be, but I wish everyone would take ANYTHING coming from the American press with a big-ass grain of salt. They (the press) are only out to make money, and writing stories about how life over there isn't that much different from life anywhere else does not pay the bills.
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uh.. they pick COREL linux as their fave of the herd.. i mean.. come on.. corel? it absolutely sucks raw baby mice.
not that any other linux distro would have done better in a 'desktop OS' deathmatch, but that's another story.. the least they could have done was pick a good distro.
And if it's going to ask me what my monitor is then it should believe me when I tell it the answer. I've had linux tell me I gave it the wrong monitor info, if it knows enough to tell me the info I gave it is wrong, why doesn't it give itself the RIGHT info? It's silly.
Hi. I'm really curious about a few things.
1) What the hell are you talking about? Linux doesn't care at all what monitor you use. Are you meaning to say 'X windows' is wanting that info or are you meaning that "linux" wants 'my monitor's refresh rate capabilities?'
2) What distro are you using that does all of this?
3) Why has no one else asked you this?
If it pisses you off so much, don't use it.
Thanks,
Blue
IBM has been working on, and has actually built and tested, a 1GHZ PPC chip. I supported the UNIX boxen involved when I worked there.
I'm not sure why it's not on the market, since the live chip test was well over a year ago. Maybe they're soaking as much cash as they can out of the lower-speed chips.
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blue
Man, you win.
aren't likely to buy the album at the price that the RIAA wants to charge for it.
That is exactly the crux of the matter. Musicians or no, this whole thing is about money money money, and not just a fair amount of money, but the greatest amount of cash they can wring from you. -- 'whatever the market will bear.' Napster lowers the cost ceiling by maybe a buck or two, and that could end up costing the RIAA billions..
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blue
hi troll!
What open source software clone/rip off is better?
Here's the same list I gave last week:
http://slashdot.org/comme nts.pl?sid=00/05/16/1512238&cid=62
enjoY!
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blue
the people would simply make better music and give it away for free. most OSS authors will go out of their way to remove and replace proprietary/copyright code from their projects - if for nothing other than pride.
stealing really is just stealing. if you like the music, buy the @Q#$@!# cd.
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blue
The report recommends that the digital copyright law be amended "to hold Napster, its users, and similar services accountable for copyright violations while maintaining protections from liability for service providers that are innocent bystanders to digital piracy."
Yoiks! So, they're trying to define 'service provider' in such a way that includes anyone who provides access to copyrighted material. I think Taco's comparison to nfs and port 80 is, (surprise!) uselessly inflammatory, but the change in the law could lead to a UK-ish sort of 'fear of liability' in service providers.
Interestingly, it seems weighted toward punishing companies, and does not mention person-to-person file transfers..
Short-sighted and useless.. I say, let them pass it, then use it as fuel to repeal the entire morass of crap that is the DMCA.
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blue
but news.com has a big story on it right now - apparently HP is releasing an itanium emulator for people to use to test ia-64 code on, code compiled with SGI's OSS ia-64 compiler. :P
:P
apparently, there are only about 3,000 working ia-64 systems in the universe right now. (barring, of course, extra-terrestrial coincidental development of the ia-64)
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blue, posting with mozilla m15
news.com quotes:
The evidence showed "Microsoft's illegal conduct eliminated the serious threat that the browser and Java posed" to Windows.
Which I think is really funny, because, all rhetoric aside, java never was (and probably never will be) a threat to windows. This is exactly like saying that perl is a threat to windows.. It's all just claptrap created by people who get paid to regurgitate marketing rhetoric. Netscape said 'the browser will make the OS less important.. ' so the pundits said 'the browser will kill windows!' Heh, it just aint so. Same thing, to a much greater degree, with java.
Aint it ironic that the findings of a case against Microsoft, of all companies, come down to spin on marketing?
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blue