Alternatively, you can charge whatever you want for GPL'd software and not give it to them until they pay. They can then go distribute it if they want, but they'd have to be motivated enough to do so. The only difference with commercial software in this regard is that it's not legal when they redistribute commercial software.
Not completely true, you allowed to charge money for as much as it takes for the media (last time I checked), but if you distribute you must make the source code available.
Where he is completely wrong is his claim that Unix is no longer a platform for innovation....... So if he wants to work on a platform where everything will always be consistent, he can go work for Apple or MicrosoftOtherwise, he'll just have to make Gnome so good that no one will want to use anything else, because there isn't any way to shove things down people's throats in the *nix world.
I think you are getting confused, microsoft are the ones that innovate! And thats what he wants [i guess]... {insert saterical comment here}
Just a thought, the only time I ever check out the biggies is when slashdot, or sharkyextreme, artechnica, or a number of others point me there. Normally I can get a more detailed opinion [especially on/.] about the story. Thank god for people always willing to dig up more info and the moderation [when it works right].
What about absentee voting, that has been around for years, perhaps hundreds. You never hear people decrying the loss of anonymity. Anyone who votes online should have enough brains to figure out that this could mean a little bit more persuasion from one party the next time, but hey, voting is hopefully something that people take more seriously than advertising.
That said, and going back to the main discussion, voting online does not yet seem to me to be such a great idea since we have our own governments allowing themselves to track through our email trolling for keywords thinking its a good idea. Anyways, therefore, ipso facto, etc, dont put it on the net until there is a standard means of full authentication of oneself in digital form, perhaps people should have to apply for an internet id, like a state id, passport, or license. Then that could be it. Our just wait for visual recognition.
you seem to have a good point, and believe strongly in what you say. Question is how fat is your ass seeing as you definitely know HTML.
hypocracy and vehemence get you nowhere, im just trying to make a point. Don't stand for something and take the high horse if you're just as bad, you could be out helping people right now but you are probably at your boring job typing on/. just like me.
Watched something on the discovery channel about all the companies bidding in that competition. NASA deemed McDonal Douglas' desgin unsafe, which they said was bull. In the next month one of the test flights ended up with the rocket landing, then falling on its side and blowing up. Try finding that MPEG! (well, they showed it on TV, so they might have it available).
I have to agree with some of the posts and go with the whole "it's not good enough unless you've got the whole kit". Such as the little doohickey in arkanoid, or a steering wheel. And personally, I can't get enough of Pinball (which is now officially dead!). But there is a way to get hold of these things, albiet expensively. Go to ebay and check out gaming, and then antiques or retro (can't remember). You can grab some sweet equipment.
I suggest you do this, although never to a monty python foot. However, Jon Katz is just asking to be ignored..... and now my immitation of John Katz:
Bla bla bla, geeks are misunderstood intelligencia of our nation. wah wah wah mp3's and napster free the musician bla bla wah fub fub look at me im not i geek but i understand them, they sit in their room and jerk off and its cool wah wah
If people cared so much about struglling indie artists then they'd at least take a step in that direction and try to _find_ it. It's sad fact, but most of the music buying [listening] public are also the most inclined not find music for themselves but to have it served to them. Yes I'm talking about anyone from puberty to thirty.
Let's assume for once that the above point is non-arguable [i could make an exception case out of myself, but i won't, because hell I read/. so you could hardly call me a model consumer]. Anyways, I entered college two years ago, and even though I thought my music was eclectic, I noticed and heard other music from others I'd never heard. Amongst most of it was the 'radio crap,' but not all of it.
The point is that because of dorm life and the availbility of a large amount of mp3's, I now have a lot of music that I would never have even considered owning or listening to, real gems of music that never gets played. Some of it indie, some of it really small time label stuff, some of it 'mainstream'[minus one karma point].
Want more details? Going into college I listened to mainstream rock. That was it. Since then I've gone all over the place with my music tastes, with 70's funk, electric, and small time indie stuff that i hear on the radio late at night. No way am I going to buy all of it, but I am much _more_ less inclined to buy the stuff that people want me go after. I have no idea how this will translate when broadband really hits the outside world, but I hope that trend continues, because it means most people aren't as dumb as they seem. Let's hear it for Aphex Twin! The only stuff to code to.
Anyone else notice that NT 4 performed better than Win2k? Hmmm, maybe microsoft will start learning the reason why things like VI are still around since the seventies in any *NIX distro: They Work! Newer does not always mean better, but it does mean that you lack all the special features
Perfectly, true, but there is no base whatsoever for the claim that the license is more important than the product itself. Don't bother citing Microsoft, what made them successful was neither the quality of their product nor the license, it was the marketing.
I would have to say none of those was the reason why. Either you have bad long term memory, or are a 15 year old troll. Microsoft didn't market their product [talking about DOS baby], PC's were bought in large numbers simply they were cheaper than macs and could get the same stuff done. Anyone could have done it... Move on four - six years and microsoft is now in the luckiest position in the world, now they try to market and advertise, god knows why, they hardly need to bother.
What's wrong about plugging a place that you think is cool. And as for trying to get people to live there, you actual read the subject header? CHuCK thinks that you are a big meany that doesn't understand "cool." It's cool to live/walk past a supercomputer of that caliber when you are a CS, just as if you are a gear head that walks past a Ferrari F1 garage everyday to work..
You're forgetting about reading dude. They've got the alleycat, which is one of the best small venues i've ever been in. Granted they get headlining bands most of the time, but that's not what they are aiming for. BTW, what's wrong with a bit of techno, ministry of sound is great, and some of _the_ best techno comes out of england [sorry, ill throw in a chem. bros. followed by perfect circle].
Is more schools to support secure POP servers. I use outlook (sorry)and i ran etherreal on linux boxen only to notice in packet a nice little tag saying USERNAME: XXX and then PASSWORD: XXXXXX
I thought eek, so much so that I'm pestering my school (which is normally sealed tight as drum in respects of security) to get on the ball. Maybe they have a solution, but i ain't obvious to me. In regards to the whole SSH/telnet argument. Well, our school supports both, and even though they don't go out of their way to get people to use SSH most do [probably because its WPI] and those who don't run risk/could care less. In terms of things that _don't_ matter, ICMP is completely firewalled outside of the intranet and overall im impressed.
Now its time for my point: I go to a tech school and many of us know tux by his first name, BUT when i visit _other_ schools [liberal arts type stuff that i dont know dick about] its surprising how much people just don't care about their security, and education will not wash there, because the users just dont care as long as they get their pr0n and mp3s... sigh what to do
Trying to avoid adding a "me too" here. Even though I grew up in Mass (another great place for techies), spent last eight years in the Thames Valley [that's including Guildford]. A couple of extra things about the Thames Valley:
Bracknell
While considered by many to be a shite place to live, you are right next to many of the most famous places around [Ascot, landed gentry, need I say more?] and you get to work in the same town as the Met[eorogical] Office. What's so great about them? Well they've got one of the fastest Computers around, a Cray T3E, which cranks out weather information for all around the world. 90% accurate or some such. It's just a shame that england's weather is inherently unpredicatable. Bracknell's other claim to fame is the amount of Big tech companies there, Sun, Oracle, 3M, etc, but I've really never seen any startups.
Reading
Actually mentioned by wired in this month's issue [where they rate the top 40 tech areas in the world] they've got tons of VC going in there right now, although I haven't seen much development with my own eyes, I believe its there. Plus there's the awesome Reading Festival which featured Metallica two years ago
But do what you want, I could be wrong - Tyler Durton
Maybe you didn't understand me fully. Partially Open allows development without losing your IP (if you need be so protective). For instance:
I am sure that Dungeon Keeper, the Civ series (for sure) and X-com allow to build more levels when you get bored.
As for the others, if they did have that, imagine the extension of playability that you see with the ones that allow you to that. Sim City allowed you to build terrain, imagine if it provided enough of a SDK so that you build your own feature addons instead of waiting 2-3 years to be able to drive/fly/create a tower in the thriving city you built 10 years ago...
That is why i quoted Doom as an example, it was designed in mind for people to easily hack it, and id could care less as long as you bought the commercial version. Personally I modded levels/sounds/sprites to hell just for fun and passed them round to friends/BBS's. And don't even get me started on Halflife with its excellent free[speech as well as beer, i don't know] mod Counter-Strike. This type of stuff can only be an improvement on 90% of the stuff out there.
PSX comes to mind about this... It took CD's [which you can burn], why not create a simple SDK for independent developers and hobbiest [yes they do exist] instead of trying to take the emulator off the market (and trying like hell to stop people successfully hack their boxes to get past the gay regionalization [but thats another arguments]).
the one thing i find scary about this article...
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Is katz. Please tell me Katz, what is your conception of the perfect human baby? What's that, there is none? But you said that because of the HGP parents would be able to pick the ideally suited baby. I thought you meant blonde hair, blue eyes.... But I could be wrong. See, everyone's cool in there own way, and no self respecting pair of parents would want it otherwise. They might try to save their baby from an unhappy life of malformed body parts, or basic immunity to things like ahlzeimers, but your specific fear is scarier than that. To think that you believe that everybody wants the same thing simply shows shortsightedness on your part.
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Not completely true, you allowed to charge money for as much as it takes for the media (last time I checked), but if you distribute you must make the source code available.
I think you are getting confused, microsoft are the ones that innovate! And thats what he wants [i guess]... {insert saterical comment here}
Just a thought, the only time I ever check out the biggies is when slashdot, or sharkyextreme, artechnica, or a number of others point me there. Normally I can get a more detailed opinion [especially on /.] about the story. Thank god for people always willing to dig up more info and the moderation [when it works right].
That said, and going back to the main discussion, voting online does not yet seem to me to be such a great idea since we have our own governments allowing themselves to track through our email trolling for keywords thinking its a good idea. Anyways, therefore, ipso facto, etc, dont put it on the net until there is a standard means of full authentication of oneself in digital form, perhaps people should have to apply for an internet id, like a state id, passport, or license. Then that could be it. Our just wait for visual recognition.
hypocracy and vehemence get you nowhere, im just trying to make a point. Don't stand for something and take the high horse if you're just as bad, you could be out helping people right now but you are probably at your boring job typing on /. just like me.
personally i think it was name :-) anyone else notice that X is the roman numeral for 10? As in DC-10, garunteed to go down?
Watched something on the discovery channel about all the companies bidding in that competition. NASA deemed McDonal Douglas' desgin unsafe, which they said was bull. In the next month one of the test flights ended up with the rocket landing, then falling on its side and blowing up. Try finding that MPEG! (well, they showed it on TV, so they might have it available).
I have to agree with some of the posts and go with the whole "it's not good enough unless you've got the whole kit". Such as the little doohickey in arkanoid, or a steering wheel. And personally, I can't get enough of Pinball (which is now officially dead!). But there is a way to get hold of these things, albiet expensively. Go to ebay and check out gaming, and then antiques or retro (can't remember). You can grab some sweet equipment.
and now my immitation of John Katz:
Bla bla bla, geeks are misunderstood intelligencia of our nation. wah wah wah mp3's and napster free the musician bla bla wah fub fub look at me im not i geek but i understand them, they sit in their room and jerk off and its cool wah wah
Let's assume for once that the above point is non-arguable [i could make an exception case out of myself, but i won't, because hell I read /. so you could hardly call me a model consumer]. Anyways, I entered college two years ago, and even though I thought my music was eclectic, I noticed and heard other music from others I'd never heard. Amongst most of it was the 'radio crap,' but not all of it.
The point is that because of dorm life and the availbility of a large amount of mp3's, I now have a lot of music that I would never have even considered owning or listening to, real gems of music that never gets played. Some of it indie, some of it really small time label stuff, some of it 'mainstream'[minus one karma point].
Want more details? Going into college I listened to mainstream rock. That was it. Since then I've gone all over the place with my music tastes, with 70's funk, electric, and small time indie stuff that i hear on the radio late at night. No way am I going to buy all of it, but I am much _more_ less inclined to buy the stuff that people want me go after. I have no idea how this will translate when broadband really hits the outside world, but I hope that trend continues, because it means most people aren't as dumb as they seem. Let's hear it for Aphex Twin! The only stuff to code to.
go away bot or i shall replace you with a very small shell
We have the technology...
Brought to you by CHuCK, who is still stuck somewhere in 1985
Anyone else notice that NT 4 performed better than Win2k? Hmmm, maybe microsoft will start learning the reason why things like VI are still around since the seventies in any *NIX distro: They Work!
Newer does not always mean better, but it does mean that you lack all the special features
I would have to say none of those was the reason why. Either you have bad long term memory, or are a 15 year old troll. Microsoft didn't market their product [talking about DOS baby], PC's were bought in large numbers simply they were cheaper than macs and could get the same stuff done. Anyone could have done it... Move on four - six years and microsoft is now in the luckiest position in the world, now they try to market and advertise, god knows why, they hardly need to bother.
What's wrong about plugging a place that you think is cool. And as for trying to get people to live there, you actual read the subject header? CHuCK thinks that you are a big meany that doesn't understand "cool." It's cool to live/walk past a supercomputer of that caliber when you are a CS, just as if you are a gear head that walks past a Ferrari F1 garage everyday to work..
i remember that dude, pretty cool stuff. But I thought he was a canuck...
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Ooops, alleycat _hardly_ gets headlinging bands
You're forgetting about reading dude. They've got the alleycat, which is one of the best small venues i've ever been in.
Granted they get headlining bands most of the time, but that's not what they are aiming for.
BTW, what's wrong with a bit of techno, ministry of sound is great, and some of _the_ best techno comes out of england [sorry, ill throw in a chem. bros. followed by perfect circle].
USERNAME: XXX
and then
PASSWORD: XXXXXX
I thought eek, so much so that I'm pestering my school (which is normally sealed tight as drum in respects of security) to get on the ball. Maybe they have a solution, but i ain't obvious to me. In regards to the whole SSH/telnet argument.
Well, our school supports both, and even though they don't go out of their way to get people to use SSH most do [probably because its WPI] and those who don't run risk/could care less. In terms of things that _don't_ matter, ICMP is completely firewalled outside of the intranet and overall im impressed.
Now its time for my point:
I go to a tech school and many of us know tux by his first name, BUT when i visit _other_ schools [liberal arts type stuff that i dont know dick about] its surprising how much people just don't care about their security, and education will not wash there, because the users just dont care as long as they get their pr0n and mp3s...
sigh what to do
Bracknell
- While considered by many to be a shite place to live, you are right next to many of the most famous places around [Ascot, landed gentry, need I say more?] and you get to work in the same town as the Met[eorogical] Office. What's so great about them? Well they've got one of the fastest Computers around, a Cray T3E, which cranks out weather information for all around the world. 90% accurate or some such. It's just a shame that england's weather is inherently unpredicatable. Bracknell's other claim to fame is the amount of Big tech companies there, Sun, Oracle, 3M, etc, but I've really never seen any startups.
ReadingBut do what you want, I could be wrong - Tyler Durton
I am sure that Dungeon Keeper, the Civ series (for sure) and X-com allow to build more levels when you get bored.
As for the others, if they did have that, imagine the extension of playability that you see with the ones that allow you to that. Sim City allowed you to build terrain, imagine if it provided enough of a SDK so that you build your own feature addons instead of waiting 2-3 years to be able to drive/fly/create a tower in the thriving city you built 10 years ago...
That is why i quoted Doom as an example, it was designed in mind for people to easily hack it, and id could care less as long as you bought the commercial version. Personally I modded levels/sounds/sprites to hell just for fun and passed them round to friends/BBS's. And don't even get me started on Halflife with its excellent free[speech as well as beer, i don't know] mod Counter-Strike. This type of stuff can only be an improvement on 90% of the stuff out there.
PSX comes to mind about this...
It took CD's [which you can burn], why not create a simple SDK for independent developers and hobbiest [yes they do exist] instead of trying to take the emulator off the market (and trying like hell to stop people successfully hack their boxes to get past the gay regionalization [but thats another arguments]).
Is katz. Please tell me Katz, what is your conception of the perfect human baby? What's that, there is none? But you said that because of the HGP parents would be able to pick the ideally suited baby. I thought you meant blonde hair, blue eyes.... But I could be wrong. See, everyone's cool in there own way, and no self respecting pair of parents would want it otherwise. They might try to save their baby from an unhappy life of malformed body parts, or basic immunity to things like ahlzeimers, but your specific fear is scarier than that. To think that you believe that everybody wants the same thing simply shows shortsightedness on your part.
Okay, I know that this post was not really in line with the topic, but why the hell is it flamebait??!
- India want to go to moon
- People think India go to moon to help nuke research
- badass computer made
- India use badass computer, rocketry, and Open source video game to create ICBM
- India gets sued by RMS/GNU over violation of GPL in precedant setting class action lawsuit
- End result: Penguin has nuclear power
- redmond automagically disappears in a puff of smoke
wow, funnier than i thought that would be