Will you and everyone else stop talking like xbox is already a smashing success? What've we seen of it so far, a few screen shots and a botched demonstration where it locked up?
First off I would like to mention that even if we do kill off an entire species, it means that natural selection isn't working for that species...we are doing it a favor by extinguishing it's agony...
Natural selection is implied to be just that, "natural". There's nothing natural about polutants in the air and water, nor is it possible for animals to develop a natural defense against shotguns, rifles, nightscopes, etc... Those just tip the scales way too far against them, and they're certainly not natural. A.45 caliber bullet will pass through the engine block of a car - how is an animal to evolve to the point of being immune, especially in the very limited time frame of just a few years?
If natural selection were working it would be harder to catch, or taste bad, or be poisonous by now...(people have been fishing for millenia- read the bible)
The things people eat are pretty gross, sometimes... Lobster guts, monkey brains, cow balls, mushrooms (fungi found growing on cow shit, basically)... We drive plants to extinction, which in turn drives animals to extinction because they have no habitat or food left. Or the animals that do adapt, say mountain lions, are killed if they have the "audacity" to enter into an area that's been populated by humans. Survival of the fittest? Why do people care if a mountain lion eats a baby, i wonder?
And yes... i eat steak and sushi - all the good stuff, i do realize that those choices (not so much with steak, i don't think, since cattle are raised by us) have a material effect on the world...
"If anyone here works in advertising or marketing, please kill yourself".
Hate to break it to you buddy, but it's advertising and marketing that get products and services heard of... Hence, clients, customers, dollars and income.
no, you don't need formal education to start a company. You don't even need experience.all you need is the $100 or so that so many companies in delaware will charge you to incorporate in their state. But that doesn't guarentee you'll succeed.
Comparing your experience from 3 years ago to today is mostly useless. Money was free back then, everyone was eager to find the next big thing, and you barely had to say that you knew anything but "computers" in order to get a decent job.
Well, it wasn't that easy. But lets' see you take that $700 today and turn it into $30,000 in your checking account a year from now. No offense, but it's different times...
Yes... Rather than concentrate on any one particular thing, i've found that my experience in graphic design, as well as marketing, reporting, and copywriting plus having a deep interest in the technical side of business has enabled me to make it further than i ever would have if i'd just concentrated on the one.
Currently, i can sit in on just about any meeting, and understand what each side is saying, and translate to the other side. And when IT in my company tells me what's being asked for isn't possible, i'm able to show them that it is actualyl possible, and not even that hard.
Diversity diversity diversity.
IT has commoditized itself - the only way to stand out is to diversify.
And experience trumps all, in my book and from my accounts. I'm 25 now, part of the work force since 18, and am the only person of less than 30 in the company of over 80 employees...
So, yes, diversify, but don't put too much faith into a piece of paper. People want to see real world accomplishments much more today than they do a piece of paper...
What Yahoo should do is go to the WTO and challenge France's laws as being a barier to free-trade.
But really... I've always wondered why we have all these different states in America. Soon, with every company having to obey every countries laws, there'll become the point of wondering what the point of countries even are, except for their historical signicances...
I hope it's been pointed out somewhere in here that GE owns both NBC and GM. Just so we all know who's reporting what...
"Gee, NBC is saying great things about GM's future".
They should be required to post a disclaimer. As should any television station, newspaper, or other media. They should all make it clear who's interests they're vested in.
paying the same amount for internet access... with even more widespread tracking, more ads, ads which don't even look like ads (product placements and paid reviews anyone?).
Okay, i guess you could use NetZero, but in the end you're surrendering exponentially more amounts of information about yourself by using the internet than by watching TV. Because TV is so limited. They can only get a vague concept of your household via checking and seeing what your'e watching, as opposed to, knowing exactly what information you're seeking out (search engines), or just having a much clearer, more refined idea of your interests, thanks to the hundreds of thousands of niche websites out there.
You can't say "TV bad, because the cable companies can track you', while on the internet... because you're leaving a much more intricate trail online.
Though in 1984 they also have your kids spying on you, cameras all over the place, and always a big picture of Big Brother nearby, whose eyes are following you.
Kind of like dotcoms soliciting kids for their parents' buying paterns (it's illegal for companies to collect that information about kids themselves, but apparently, it's okay to ask kids about their parents - shame i forgot the reference), schools solititing their students to turn in their parents for smoking pot. 70 or 80% of the streets in most cities are under private survelance already, only a subpeona away from being checked out by the authorities, and who needs a TV in the living room following you, when the same can be done online through webbugs, eschelon, etc....
If it's not worse than the novel, it's getting there pretty quickly, just a few years late is all...
We've had processor and machine emulators and processor independance for so long now...
SoftPC, Soft Windows, Virtual PC, XF86, Virtual Playstation, Java, WINE, Wabi, MAME, and so many others...
Why should this one be the news?
While Java was basically the only one that's tried to dislodge x86, they've all shown that while it's feasible to run another architecture's binaries ontop of a CPU, it's not the preferred way of doing things.
YAE (yet another emulator)
And big deal if it only translates a program from one binary arch. to another... Without an equivalent OS, the calls have nothing to be translated into...
And i could lead into the slashdot mantra of if all programs were opensource, we wouldn't need somethng as sloppy as an emulator anyhow...
There is no reason to waste an amazing amount of money reinvinting the wheel every time one needs a new text editor or just because one is trying to circumvent someone else's IP. What a waste
Can you please explain to me then Gnome & KDE for starters? And how about FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. HURD? OpenOffice vs. Emacs? Mozilla vs. Konqueror? MySQL and PostGres?
etc. etc. etc.
Source is available and people still go and make their own incredibly complicated software rather than join into an existing enclave... Or are you just calling Linus an idiot for not developing something based off of AT&T's source code...?
For what your aiming at, i think you're off a little bit... For instance, what if the program that's in question was actually a promoted as a photoeditor? True, the photoediting functionality isn't implented yet, but if you include a GPLed library, it will convert digital movies to different formats... Could they get out of this whole thing by adding text editing to their app, and say "hey, it's really a text editor with additional* functionality!"
Okay, bad example... but the thing i was aiming for was if mozilla were GPL'ed, and AOL didn't own netscape, what would the outcome of my scenario be?
That AOL can't integrate free code anyhow anyway into their product?
Will the GPL prevent an interested third party developer from extending the functionality of a proprietary program with a GPLed tool?
If those are both no, why can't AOL choose to distribute the program or library with their product, even though they're under two different lcenses? It'd seem that you'd just need to click one okay to one license for the program and another for the library.
So, for a sort of real-world, yet fictuous scenario... Here's the premise:
1 - AOL has license to embed IE in their application. (true)
2 - Mozilla/Gecko has come of age.
3 - AOL hears users asking for a Gecko based browser.
4 - Could it pe possible for AOL to either modify Mozilla in such a way that it pipes it's output to a window in AOL's interface, without them releasing the source (forgetting that they own netscape)? Would there be any way for them to do so, and give users the option of which rendering engine to use?
5 - If 4 is not possilbe, what if a 3rd party developer modified Mozilla in such a way that it operates flawlessly from within AOL. AOL hasn't violated the license. Has the developer? Probably not, if they reverse engineered AOL's interfaces. So would it still be a violation if AOL chose to distribute the 3rd party's library with their application, if they provided source to the linked program?
AGHHHHHHH! The is kind of a brain melting excersize of what ifs, etc...
I can think of MP3 encoders that can use a proprietary or GPL'ed encoder, while themselves being proprietary. The only difference between that and this case (story) is that there are not currently available and comparable DLL's like what they're distributing separately, but with their app. Would it be okay, once there was a second DLL available, so that that one DLL wouldn't be the only way for the program to "function as advertised?"
How can it not be? The founders probbly still have a few large lots left, VC's do, larger investors do, mp3.com is probably on some internet mutual fund...
They don't need to get the okay of 50% of the share holders, they just need to get the okay from the shareholders which own 50% of the shares.
No... being part of the OS means that people somehow paid for them... If they started releasing all their "add-in's" as free downloads, that'd probably be much more easy to prove as being predatory pricing...
But it's tough... Apply rules like that, because it could actually endanger all free downloads. Given their size and dominance, they're likely to get yelled at whichever course they follow, so why not just go down the route that at least guarentees their software gets installed...
love PowerPC systems, I think they're absolutely amazing. However, I don't have the $10k to drop on an RS/6000, and I have no interest in purchasing an over-price Macintosh computer. They're too restrictive and limited.
WHAT?!? You'd buy an RS/6000 if only you had $10,000, but find $1700 for a 466 MHz G4, with IDE, Firewire, USB, 64-bit/33 MHz PCI slots, a 32 bit/66 MHz PCI slot, CD-RW drive, and gigabit ethernet "over priced, restictive and limited?"
How is that or is it that you're predisposed to hate apple, in which case you should have just said that.
Comparing prices of lots of 1000 processors, back in 1997 when it's 2001... Not especially useful information.
And i don't know what exactly you're talking about in reference to the PCI bus, but taking sound off of it spares 150KB/sec out of 132 MB/sec per CD quality channel... basically a drop in the bucket. And videos' been off of the PCI bus in x86 computers for years now... AGP, remember?
Every piece of correspondence at the company i work for is conducted via email on the intranet. Employee reviews, communications with vendors and managers, etc... And we're a "small company" (an 80 employee subsidiary of a multibillion dollar company, though left to our own mostly). Email is just more efficient for communicating with fellow employees on important stuff, and a bit more accountable than talking by the coffee pots. I wouldn't see why a larger company wouldn't want to use interoffice email to communicate things like corporate strategy. A paper memo can be leaked just as easily as an emailed memo, afterall...
I think i'm going to revert to AOL... I don't really see much point to not do it. Yes, i've a cable modem, (mediaone.net), but at the rate things have been going with high speed access (DSL companies going belly up left and right, media one just raised thier rates a bit this month) and the fact that there isn't a nationwide strong nationwide ISP aside from AOL makes me think that AOL is probably the safest place to create a permanent email addres... Yes, i've a domain registered, but that's just extra cost in the end.
I haven't yet converted, but i'm not seeing much reason not to... you can run all TCP/IP applications through AOL, just not any servers, etc...
I don't know. It's a consideration i've been toying with. And i think i'd much rather AOL/Time Warner be our "ruler" than Microsoft. At least that then provest that the ruler can be toppled, which means if AOL/TW screws around too much, they too can go by the wayside.
Have you noticed that most newer cars (i think all of them that are computer operated and street legal in the US) top out well short of what the police drive? It's not a fault of the engine, it's just that the engine itself isn't "allowed" to go faster than say 140 or 150 in many models of cars... Where's the protest against that?
Not for quite a while... Full motion video at 640x480 is 30MB/Sec - HDTV is quite a bit more, but even the lesser of the two is beyond the reach of standard IDE and SCSI devices (read: you need a RAID). So, yes, some people would be able to circumvent future protections, but it'd be beyond the reach of many other people...
The repo man would end up with the car, because he's acting as an agent of the owner of the title to the car... There might need to be a couple phone calls back and forth, but in the end the car's still not yours until you pay it off and get the title. Until that point the bank is basically letting you drive their car under the agreement that you're paying for it in installments, with interest...
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Will you and everyone else stop talking like xbox is already a smashing success? What've we seen of it so far, a few screen shots and a botched demonstration where it locked up?
First off I would like to mention that even if we do kill off an entire species, it means that natural selection isn't working for that species...we are doing it a favor by extinguishing it's agony...
.45 caliber bullet will pass through the engine block of a car - how is an animal to evolve to the point of being immune, especially in the very limited time frame of just a few years?
Natural selection is implied to be just that, "natural". There's nothing natural about polutants in the air and water, nor is it possible for animals to develop a natural defense against shotguns, rifles, nightscopes, etc... Those just tip the scales way too far against them, and they're certainly not natural. A
If natural selection were working it would be harder to catch, or taste bad, or be poisonous by now...(people have been fishing for millenia- read the bible)
The things people eat are pretty gross, sometimes... Lobster guts, monkey brains, cow balls, mushrooms (fungi found growing on cow shit, basically)... We drive plants to extinction, which in turn drives animals to extinction because they have no habitat or food left. Or the animals that do adapt, say mountain lions, are killed if they have the "audacity" to enter into an area that's been populated by humans. Survival of the fittest? Why do people care if a mountain lion eats a baby, i wonder?
And yes... i eat steak and sushi - all the good stuff, i do realize that those choices (not so much with steak, i don't think, since cattle are raised by us) have a material effect on the world...
"If anyone here works in advertising or marketing, please kill yourself".
Hate to break it to you buddy, but it's advertising and marketing that get products and services heard of... Hence, clients, customers, dollars and income.
no, you don't need formal education to start a company. You don't even need experience.all you need is the $100 or so that so many companies in delaware will charge you to incorporate in their state. But that doesn't guarentee you'll succeed.
Comparing your experience from 3 years ago to today is mostly useless. Money was free back then, everyone was eager to find the next big thing, and you barely had to say that you knew anything but "computers" in order to get a decent job.
Well, it wasn't that easy. But lets' see you take that $700 today and turn it into $30,000 in your checking account a year from now. No offense, but it's different times...
Yes... Rather than concentrate on any one particular thing, i've found that my experience in graphic design, as well as marketing, reporting, and copywriting plus having a deep interest in the technical side of business has enabled me to make it further than i ever would have if i'd just concentrated on the one.
Currently, i can sit in on just about any meeting, and understand what each side is saying, and translate to the other side. And when IT in my company tells me what's being asked for isn't possible, i'm able to show them that it is actualyl possible, and not even that hard.
Diversity diversity diversity.
IT has commoditized itself - the only way to stand out is to diversify.
And experience trumps all, in my book and from my accounts. I'm 25 now, part of the work force since 18, and am the only person of less than 30 in the company of over 80 employees...
So, yes, diversify, but don't put too much faith into a piece of paper. People want to see real world accomplishments much more today than they do a piece of paper...
What Yahoo should do is go to the WTO and challenge France's laws as being a barier to free-trade.
But really... I've always wondered why we have all these different states in America. Soon, with every company having to obey every countries laws, there'll become the point of wondering what the point of countries even are, except for their historical signicances...
I hope it's been pointed out somewhere in here that GE owns both NBC and GM. Just so we all know who's reporting what...
"Gee, NBC is saying great things about GM's future".
They should be required to post a disclaimer. As should any television station, newspaper, or other media. They should all make it clear who's interests they're vested in.
OH SORRY.
FX86! or whatever it was that DEC and MS co-developed to run x86 apps on NT on Alpha's running NT
paying the same amount for internet access... with even more widespread tracking, more ads, ads which don't even look like ads (product placements and paid reviews anyone?).
Okay, i guess you could use NetZero, but in the end you're surrendering exponentially more amounts of information about yourself by using the internet than by watching TV. Because TV is so limited. They can only get a vague concept of your household via checking and seeing what your'e watching, as opposed to, knowing exactly what information you're seeking out (search engines), or just having a much clearer, more refined idea of your interests, thanks to the hundreds of thousands of niche websites out there.
You can't say "TV bad, because the cable companies can track you', while on the internet... because you're leaving a much more intricate trail online.
Though in 1984 they also have your kids spying on you, cameras all over the place, and always a big picture of Big Brother nearby, whose eyes are following you.
Kind of like dotcoms soliciting kids for their parents' buying paterns (it's illegal for companies to collect that information about kids themselves, but apparently, it's okay to ask kids about their parents - shame i forgot the reference), schools solititing their students to turn in their parents for smoking pot. 70 or 80% of the streets in most cities are under private survelance already, only a subpeona away from being checked out by the authorities, and who needs a TV in the living room following you, when the same can be done online through webbugs, eschelon, etc....
If it's not worse than the novel, it's getting there pretty quickly, just a few years late is all...
But I don't watch tv much anyway, so it doesn't matter to me.
Is being on the internet 24/7 really all that much better than watching tv? I don't think so myself, personally...
We've had processor and machine emulators and processor independance for so long now...
SoftPC, Soft Windows, Virtual PC, XF86, Virtual Playstation, Java, WINE, Wabi, MAME, and so many others...
Why should this one be the news?
While Java was basically the only one that's tried to dislodge x86, they've all shown that while it's feasible to run another architecture's binaries ontop of a CPU, it's not the preferred way of doing things.
YAE (yet another emulator)
And big deal if it only translates a program from one binary arch. to another... Without an equivalent OS, the calls have nothing to be translated into...
And i could lead into the slashdot mantra of if all programs were opensource, we wouldn't need somethng as sloppy as an emulator anyhow...
Or am i missing something about the significance?
There is no reason to waste an amazing amount of money reinvinting the wheel every time one needs a new text editor or just because one is trying to circumvent someone else's IP. What a waste
Can you please explain to me then Gnome & KDE for starters? And how about FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. HURD? OpenOffice vs. Emacs? Mozilla vs. Konqueror? MySQL and PostGres?
etc. etc. etc.
Source is available and people still go and make their own incredibly complicated software rather than join into an existing enclave... Or are you just calling Linus an idiot for not developing something based off of AT&T's source code...?
For what your aiming at, i think you're off a little bit... For instance, what if the program that's in question was actually a promoted as a photoeditor? True, the photoediting functionality isn't implented yet, but if you include a GPLed library, it will convert digital movies to different formats... Could they get out of this whole thing by adding text editing to their app, and say "hey, it's really a text editor with additional* functionality!"
See they massive gray area?
Okay, bad example... but the thing i was aiming for was if mozilla were GPL'ed, and AOL didn't own netscape, what would the outcome of my scenario be?
That AOL can't integrate free code anyhow anyway into their product?
Will the GPL prevent an interested third party developer from extending the functionality of a proprietary program with a GPLed tool?
If those are both no, why can't AOL choose to distribute the program or library with their product, even though they're under two different lcenses? It'd seem that you'd just need to click one okay to one license for the program and another for the library.
Same should go here...
So, for a sort of real-world, yet fictuous scenario... Here's the premise:
1 - AOL has license to embed IE in their application. (true)
2 - Mozilla/Gecko has come of age.
3 - AOL hears users asking for a Gecko based browser.
4 - Could it pe possible for AOL to either modify Mozilla in such a way that it pipes it's output to a window in AOL's interface, without them releasing the source (forgetting that they own netscape)? Would there be any way for them to do so, and give users the option of which rendering engine to use?
5 - If 4 is not possilbe, what if a 3rd party developer modified Mozilla in such a way that it operates flawlessly from within AOL. AOL hasn't violated the license. Has the developer? Probably not, if they reverse engineered AOL's interfaces. So would it still be a violation if AOL chose to distribute the 3rd party's library with their application, if they provided source to the linked program?
AGHHHHHHH! The is kind of a brain melting excersize of what ifs, etc...
I can think of MP3 encoders that can use a proprietary or GPL'ed encoder, while themselves being proprietary. The only difference between that and this case (story) is that there are not currently available and comparable DLL's like what they're distributing separately, but with their app. Would it be okay, once there was a second DLL available, so that that one DLL wouldn't be the only way for the program to "function as advertised?"
How can it not be? The founders probbly still have a few large lots left, VC's do, larger investors do, mp3.com is probably on some internet mutual fund...
They don't need to get the okay of 50% of the share holders, they just need to get the okay from the shareholders which own 50% of the shares.
No... being part of the OS means that people somehow paid for them... If they started releasing all their "add-in's" as free downloads, that'd probably be much more easy to prove as being predatory pricing...
But it's tough... Apply rules like that, because it could actually endanger all free downloads. Given their size and dominance, they're likely to get yelled at whichever course they follow, so why not just go down the route that at least guarentees their software gets installed...
love PowerPC systems, I think they're absolutely amazing. However, I don't have the $10k to drop on an RS/6000, and I have no interest in purchasing an over-price Macintosh computer. They're too restrictive and limited.
WHAT?!? You'd buy an RS/6000 if only you had $10,000, but find $1700 for a 466 MHz G4, with IDE, Firewire, USB, 64-bit/33 MHz PCI slots, a 32 bit/66 MHz PCI slot, CD-RW drive, and gigabit ethernet "over priced, restictive and limited?"
How is that or is it that you're predisposed to hate apple, in which case you should have just said that.
Comparing prices of lots of 1000 processors, back in 1997 when it's 2001... Not especially useful information.
And i don't know what exactly you're talking about in reference to the PCI bus, but taking sound off of it spares 150KB/sec out of 132 MB/sec per CD quality channel... basically a drop in the bucket. And videos' been off of the PCI bus in x86 computers for years now... AGP, remember?
Every piece of correspondence at the company i work for is conducted via email on the intranet. Employee reviews, communications with vendors and managers, etc... And we're a "small company" (an 80 employee subsidiary of a multibillion dollar company, though left to our own mostly). Email is just more efficient for communicating with fellow employees on important stuff, and a bit more accountable than talking by the coffee pots. I wouldn't see why a larger company wouldn't want to use interoffice email to communicate things like corporate strategy. A paper memo can be leaked just as easily as an emailed memo, afterall...
I think i'm going to revert to AOL... I don't really see much point to not do it. Yes, i've a cable modem, (mediaone.net), but at the rate things have been going with high speed access (DSL companies going belly up left and right, media one just raised thier rates a bit this month) and the fact that there isn't a nationwide strong nationwide ISP aside from AOL makes me think that AOL is probably the safest place to create a permanent email addres... Yes, i've a domain registered, but that's just extra cost in the end.
I haven't yet converted, but i'm not seeing much reason not to... you can run all TCP/IP applications through AOL, just not any servers, etc...
I don't know. It's a consideration i've been toying with. And i think i'd much rather AOL/Time Warner be our "ruler" than Microsoft. At least that then provest that the ruler can be toppled, which means if AOL/TW screws around too much, they too can go by the wayside.
Have you noticed that most newer cars (i think all of them that are computer operated and street legal in the US) top out well short of what the police drive? It's not a fault of the engine, it's just that the engine itself isn't "allowed" to go faster than say 140 or 150 in many models of cars... Where's the protest against that?
Not for quite a while... Full motion video at 640x480 is 30MB/Sec - HDTV is quite a bit more, but even the lesser of the two is beyond the reach of standard IDE and SCSI devices (read: you need a RAID). So, yes, some people would be able to circumvent future protections, but it'd be beyond the reach of many other people...
Maybe i'm just tired...
The repo man would end up with the car, because he's acting as an agent of the owner of the title to the car... There might need to be a couple phone calls back and forth, but in the end the car's still not yours until you pay it off and get the title. Until that point the bank is basically letting you drive their car under the agreement that you're paying for it in installments, with interest...
So, what was you point with this?