Why spend all that money on an underwriter, you ask? Look at all the OTC stocks that basically do nothing... The underwrite goes out and drums up interest in your stock prior to it's going public... But not with other investors, but rather the institutional folk, the ones that REALLY drive stock prices up and down...
Slashdot made it with OpenIPO because they're a well established site that many people had heard of... But if you're just starting out and plan on taking your company public, you'd be making a really bad decision to use a process like that unless you were POSITIVE that there would be significat interest in your company.
Another company sees the opportunity to make money. You could do the same... roll your own distro, incorporate, get some VCs behind you and you too could be a Linux billionair.
I don't understand why people think that having "close ties" to the Linux community will neccessarily help a company.
LinuxOne doesn't need anything from the community, thanks to the GPL. They can purchase a copy of redhat, get the source CD, rearrange the files a little and presto! a brand new distro. And there's nothing that anyone can do about it.
So long as Linux continues to be developed with under the GPL (meaning as long as Linux exists) we'll see more and more of these companies. There's no rule that says they need to contribute anything back to the community. There's no rule that states they need to give shares to anyone. And even when someone does give shares (Like Redhat and VA) they do it out of the kindness of their hearts, because the developers can't hold anything back from them.
So, as angering as this may be for some of you, there reallyt isn't anything you can do but grit your teeth and wait til the next outfit surfaces...You developed under the GPL... This is one of the consequences. Sorry!
I haven't used M11 on Linux, but I can tell you that on both Win32 and the MacOS, while Mozilla looks cool, it's unusably unstable...My systems usually run without any major hiccups, but the moment M11 was launched, my machines would quickly grind to a halt....
I'm not bashing Mozilla, i hope that's not what it sounds like. I like Mozilla. It's just not in my eyes releasable (as of M11)... I'll go download M12 and (*hope*)that more progress has been made....
Verisign also charges more or at least use to charge more for basic secure certificates. Looks like the days og just buying a certificate for your server are over. Now you have to buy a whole package of services and you probably won't be able to get wildcat certificates any more either. Which is a real problem since I shouldn't have to pay $950*x just for a few servers in my own domain for easier adminstration purposes to do internal stuff via a secure web page.
If what you want to do is admin your server over a secure webpage, you don't need their services at all. Just generate your own certificate and *presto*... your own secure server connection.
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If the price on their certificates goes up, that'll be bad... but really you only need to purchase a certificate if you're setting up an ecommerce site. If that's what your doing, then $500-$1000 is a drop in the bucket. If that's not what you're doing, you can probably just sign your own.
You can go ahead and create your own keys and certificates... What you're paying Verisign for is not 100% related to your keys.
First, you're paying to have a certificate that's been signed by an authority that just happens to be preinstalled in 99% of the browsers out there.
You're also paying for the "trust" factor that goes into getting a certificate. Yeah, the lowerst level ones aren't much more than filling out paperwork, but (AFAIK) in order to get one of the more expensive ones, you must go through more steps to establish "who" you are.
If all you want is to establish secure connections, you don't need either of their services. If you want to be able to do so without having a little warning pop up on a users screen, you need to enlist their services.
That all said, if the merger/acquisition goes through, close attention should be paid to their pricing... If they immediately yank the low-cost certificates, or even if it's an eventual thing, a big stink will need to be made IMMEDIATLEY...
You just give two CPU's the exact same tasks to perform and measure the amount of time it takes... Therefore, the Alpha's faster...
If you still want to say otherwise, i'd venture to say that both the K7 and P6 (especially the K6 though) are not really executing x86 instructions anyhow... They've got microcode that converts x86 instructions to their native instructions, because x86 was just too cumbersome...
Regardless, though... It's not at all hard to compare an Alpha to a Pentium...
I'll go ahead and take away my +1 bonus because i'm about to say somehting that's not nice about redhat. Well, not redhat... But just because everyone here owns Redhat stock, that doesn't make this a newsworthy event... Stocks split all the time. It changes nothing. You get twice as many shares but they're all now worth 1/2 as much. They do this to "make the stock more accessible to the smaller investors" which means nothing because anyone can buy a single share of the stock... and if you can't squirrel away $200 for a single share of the stock, you shouldn't be buying up stocks anyways... Show your support for the company by buying their products instead.
Linux is not free as in speech because you and I can not do whatever we want with it. I can't make my own distro and refuse others access to the source code. You may say that's fair, but I say that's limiting what I can do with it. I think the BSD's are a much better example of "free" software as in speech, except you still need to retain their copyright notices...
Yes, one of the attractions of OSS is that it's "free" and you can see the code, but the GPL does put severe limits on what you can and can not do with that code.
Well, it's been a couple years. Theres now Java2, plus we all have machines that are twice as fast, so the software that crawled then could be usable now. As sun grows the JVM, we will see richer and richer apps coming our way.
Well, it still is infeasible for any company to do. Think of how many developers Linux has. Then pay them dirt cheap, say $60K/year... What's that put your payroll at?
But what a company couldn't do, a community of individuals can do, because there isn't the underlying motive of making money... Of course that's all changed now, thanks to RHAT and LNUX, but hopefully there's still enough of the original drive left that Linux will emerge unscathed.
So far as your "free" goes... we've discussed this before, but linux is only free as in money, not as in speech.... That's a discussion for another day, however.
Well, if you think that's good, what about StarPortal, whenever that appears? A java based office suite seems much cooler to me than one which actually needs to be ported/recompiled for each additional platform.
What tests have you seen where the Pentium actually wins against the Athlon at the same clock speed? Every article in every mainstream magazine and every review on just about every website i've visited says basically the same thing: "You gotta hand it to them... AMD has outdone themselves this time..."
Never before had AMD's CPU's actually bested intels efforts at the same speed (Well, the K6 did to the P5, but Intel had already moved on to the P-II and had left the P5 to die)
Intel really is playing ketchup this time!
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And what OS will run on this machine... You'd have to get rid of all your legacy software, pretty much revamp the linux kernel, etc...
Unless, you switch to either the BeOS or Mach kernel... and then run Linux on top of Mach.... of course as i often say, I am not a programmer so i may be completely wrong.
I'd see no advantage of switching from one fast processor to two slower processors... To two fast processors, yeah it's worth it if my apps care about the second cpu. What do i care about the heatsink on top of the chip? I usually keep the case closed, so it doesn't really matter all that much to me.
I am not a programmer, but it was my understanding that the problem is with Solaris on low-end systems. There are so many locks in the kernel which work wonders on SMP machines but make a single processor sit idle a portion of the time as it waits to see if another CPU wants to help it.
Hence the reason that Solaris x86 typically scores 50% of what Linux gets on 1-cpu benchmarks
How hard would that be? To set up new nameservers that use different root domains (no.com,.org, etc... so it wouldn't conflict with NSI's system). Probably run DNS on a different port, and then with browsers like Mozilla, it'd be guarenteedt to have a chance at catching on... Is the problem just coordinating a large enough chunk of people?
Who says a domain name needs to be at all descriptive of the site it represents?
Slashdot? Amazon? Ebay? Yahoo? Excite?
Those are all very non-descript names.... And that's why they catch, IMO... I agree with the original guy. If his business plan can't be adapted to a new domain name, then that in itself seems to be a problem.
Not defending NSI here, but it really seems that when they devised their system originally, they gave no thought to the idea that one day they'ed need to open it up and let other people in. And now that they need to, they've been so unhelpful in opening their systems... But really, it just sounds like they never anticipated this happening, plus they've got the most arrogant staff to go along with it...
Perhaps the gov't should just yank away their contract and run the root nameservers themselves until a suitable replacement is devised?
If they're worried about remaining anonymous, they really shouldn't be using the internet... Everything is trackable... Is it being tracked, probably not, but could it? yes.... Just the way it works, with IP's, DNS, pop, smtp... everything needs authentication lest it be abused... I'm sure there would be some people that could benefit from an open SMTP server somewhere out there, but spammers will kill it's benefit, the server will be blackholed, and so much for that outlet of free anonymous speech
Anonymity and the net just can't work... It's too much effort for the user, and the websites have much more to gain by actually knowing who they are dealing with... Because of issues like libel, etc... you're hard pressed to have a page hosted anonymously as well. I think it all comes down to accountablility... Everyone needs to be accountable for what they say. Just like how we all hate anonymous cowards around here:)
I can't seem to find an email service (a la hotmail, netscape mail, etc...) that will let you get a mail box without supplying a valid email address. I also can't be using Anonymizer while filling out the forms required... So I guess for me to do it would be to pay anonymizer for an email box and then sign up with that email as my address... Of course, they'ed know what IP i used to log in, and i suspect that most ISP's track IP usage if only for long enough to be sure that no complaints are being generated by that user...
Sorry for the ramble... it's that time of the day where i begin to shut down.... probably took to long in writing this to qualify for first post status too....
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Why spend all that money on an underwriter, you ask? Look at all the OTC stocks that basically do nothing... The underwrite goes out and drums up interest in your stock prior to it's going public... But not with other investors, but rather the institutional folk, the ones that REALLY drive stock prices up and down...
Slashdot made it with OpenIPO because they're a well established site that many people had heard of... But if you're just starting out and plan on taking your company public, you'd be making a really bad decision to use a process like that unless you were POSITIVE that there would be significat interest in your company.
If VA Linux can be LNUX, why would you possibly think that LinuxOne being LINX is too generic?
Except you chose to be the slave.
Another company sees the opportunity to make money. You could do the same... roll your own distro, incorporate, get some VCs behind you and you too could be a Linux billionair.
There's nothing that you can do, really...
I don't understand why people think that having "close ties" to the Linux community will neccessarily help a company.
LinuxOne doesn't need anything from the community, thanks to the GPL. They can purchase a copy of redhat, get the source CD, rearrange the files a little and presto! a brand new distro. And there's nothing that anyone can do about it.
So long as Linux continues to be developed with under the GPL (meaning as long as Linux exists) we'll see more and more of these companies. There's no rule that says they need to contribute anything back to the community. There's no rule that states they need to give shares to anyone. And even when someone does give shares (Like Redhat and VA) they do it out of the kindness of their hearts, because the developers can't hold anything back from them.
So, as angering as this may be for some of you, there reallyt isn't anything you can do but grit your teeth and wait til the next outfit surfaces...You developed under the GPL... This is one of the consequences. Sorry!
I haven't used M11 on Linux, but I can tell you that on both Win32 and the MacOS, while Mozilla looks cool, it's unusably unstable...My systems usually run without any major hiccups, but the moment M11 was launched, my machines would quickly grind to a halt....
I'm not bashing Mozilla, i hope that's not what it sounds like. I like Mozilla. It's just not in my eyes releasable (as of M11)... I'll go download M12 and (*hope*)that more progress has been made....
Verisign also charges more or at least use to charge more for basic secure certificates. Looks like the days og just buying a certificate for your server are over. Now you have to buy a whole package of services and you probably won't be able to get wildcat certificates any more either. Which is a real problem since I shouldn't have to pay $950*x just for a few servers in my own domain for easier adminstration purposes to do internal stuff via a secure web page.
... your own secure server connection.
If what you want to do is admin your server over a secure webpage, you don't need their services at all. Just generate your own certificate and *presto*
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If the price on their certificates goes up, that'll be bad... but really you only need to purchase a certificate if you're setting up an ecommerce site. If that's what your doing, then $500-$1000 is a drop in the bucket. If that's not what you're doing, you can probably just sign your own.
On overpriced-scames....
You can go ahead and create your own keys and certificates... What you're paying Verisign for is not 100% related to your keys.
First, you're paying to have a certificate that's been signed by an authority that just happens to be preinstalled in 99% of the browsers out there.
You're also paying for the "trust" factor that goes into getting a certificate. Yeah, the lowerst level ones aren't much more than filling out paperwork, but (AFAIK) in order to get one of the more expensive ones, you must go through more steps to establish "who" you are.
If all you want is to establish secure connections, you don't need either of their services. If you want to be able to do so without having a little warning pop up on a users screen, you need to enlist their services.
That all said, if the merger/acquisition goes through, close attention should be paid to their pricing... If they immediately yank the low-cost certificates, or even if it's an eventual thing, a big stink will need to be made IMMEDIATLEY...
Until then, though... More power to them.
You just give two CPU's the exact same tasks to perform and measure the amount of time it takes... Therefore, the Alpha's faster...
If you still want to say otherwise, i'd venture to say that both the K7 and P6 (especially the K6 though) are not really executing x86 instructions anyhow... They've got microcode that converts x86 instructions to their native instructions, because x86 was just too cumbersome...
Regardless, though... It's not at all hard to compare an Alpha to a Pentium...
I'll go ahead and take away my +1 bonus because i'm about to say somehting that's not nice about redhat. Well, not redhat... But just because everyone here owns Redhat stock, that doesn't make this a newsworthy event... Stocks split all the time. It changes nothing. You get twice as many shares but they're all now worth 1/2 as much. They do this to "make the stock more accessible to the smaller investors" which means nothing because anyone can buy a single share of the stock... and if you can't squirrel away $200 for a single share of the stock, you shouldn't be buying up stocks anyways... Show your support for the company by buying their products instead.
That's just the frontend... Want to bet that the backend runs on anything but Solaris? :)
Linux is not free as in speech because you and I can not do whatever we want with it. I can't make my own distro and refuse others access to the source code. You may say that's fair, but I say that's limiting what I can do with it. I think the BSD's are a much better example of "free" software as in speech, except you still need to retain their copyright notices...
Yes, one of the attractions of OSS is that it's "free" and you can see the code, but the GPL does put severe limits on what you can and can not do with that code.
Well, it's been a couple years. Theres now Java2, plus we all have machines that are twice as fast, so the software that crawled then could be usable now. As sun grows the JVM, we will see richer and richer apps coming our way.
Well, it still is infeasible for any company to do. Think of how many developers Linux has. Then pay them dirt cheap, say $60K/year... What's that put your payroll at?
But what a company couldn't do, a community of individuals can do, because there isn't the underlying motive of making money... Of course that's all changed now, thanks to RHAT and LNUX, but hopefully there's still enough of the original drive left that Linux will emerge unscathed.
So far as your "free" goes... we've discussed this before, but linux is only free as in money, not as in speech.... That's a discussion for another day, however.
Well, if you think that's good, what about StarPortal, whenever that appears? A java based office suite seems much cooler to me than one which actually needs to be ported/recompiled for each additional platform.
Go Sun!
What tests have you seen where the Pentium actually wins against the Athlon at the same clock speed? Every article in every mainstream magazine and every review on just about every website i've visited says basically the same thing: "You gotta hand it to them... AMD has outdone themselves this time..."
Never before had AMD's CPU's actually bested intels efforts at the same speed (Well, the K6 did to the P5, but Intel had already moved on to the P-II and had left the P5 to die)
Intel really is playing ketchup this time!
And what OS will run on this machine... You'd have to get rid of all your legacy software, pretty much revamp the linux kernel, etc...
Unless, you switch to either the BeOS or Mach kernel... and then run Linux on top of Mach.... of course as i often say, I am not a programmer so i may be completely wrong.
I'd see no advantage of switching from one fast processor to two slower processors... To two fast processors, yeah it's worth it if my apps care about the second cpu. What do i care about the heatsink on top of the chip? I usually keep the case closed, so it doesn't really matter all that much to me.
I am not a programmer, but it was my understanding that the problem is with Solaris on low-end systems. There are so many locks in the kernel which work wonders on SMP machines but make a single processor sit idle a portion of the time as it waits to see if another CPU wants to help it.
Hence the reason that Solaris x86 typically scores 50% of what Linux gets on 1-cpu benchmarks
Anything new? You mean new instructions that need more transistors that no one will use anyways? I hope not!
Try the engine metaphore.
:)
:)
I always tell people that the MHz is more like RPM's and not horsepower...
P-III = V6
Athlon = V8
G4 = V12
Alpha = nitrous burning funny car engine!
My saturns rpm-ometer goes up to 9,000 RPMs... My friends mustang goes to i think 7. Mine needs 3700 RPM's to get to 85, while the mustang needs 1900.
It's a fitting match!
Sorry if i went a little off topic though
How hard would that be? To set up new nameservers that use different root domains (no .com, .org, etc... so it wouldn't conflict with NSI's system). Probably run DNS on a different port, and then with browsers like Mozilla, it'd be guarenteedt to have a chance at catching on... Is the problem just coordinating a large enough chunk of people?
Who says a domain name needs to be at all descriptive of the site it represents?
Slashdot?
Amazon?
Ebay?
Yahoo?
Excite?
Those are all very non-descript names.... And that's why they catch, IMO... I agree with the original guy. If his business plan can't be adapted to a new domain name, then that in itself seems to be a problem.
Not defending NSI here, but it really seems that when they devised their system originally, they gave no thought to the idea that one day they'ed need to open it up and let other people in. And now that they need to, they've been so unhelpful in opening their systems... But really, it just sounds like they never anticipated this happening, plus they've got the most arrogant staff to go along with it...
Perhaps the gov't should just yank away their contract and run the root nameservers themselves until a suitable replacement is devised?
It's sloppily converted to HTML here.
It traveled through word, so some of the symbols might be gone... err... just read my disclaimer...
If they're worried about remaining anonymous, they really shouldn't be using the internet... Everything is trackable... Is it being tracked, probably not, but could it? yes.... Just the way it works, with IP's, DNS, pop, smtp... everything needs authentication lest it be abused... I'm sure there would be some people that could benefit from an open SMTP server somewhere out there, but spammers will kill it's benefit, the server will be blackholed, and so much for that outlet of free anonymous speech
Anonymity and the net just can't work... It's too much effort for the user, and the websites have much more to gain by actually knowing who they are dealing with... Because of issues like libel, etc... you're hard pressed to have a page hosted anonymously as well. I think it all comes down to accountablility... Everyone needs to be accountable for what they say. Just like how we all hate anonymous cowards around here :)
I can't seem to find an email service (a la hotmail, netscape mail, etc...) that will let you get a mail box without supplying a valid email address. I also can't be using Anonymizer while filling out the forms required... So I guess for me to do it would be to pay anonymizer for an email box and then sign up with that email as my address... Of course, they'ed know what IP i used to log in, and i suspect that most ISP's track IP usage if only for long enough to be sure that no complaints are being generated by that user...
Sorry for the ramble... it's that time of the day where i begin to shut down.... probably took to long in writing this to qualify for first post status too....