Discplaimer: Some people are offended at death. I did not imagine this story, nor do I condone this or give any personal opinions as to the validity of it. This is not funny. Do not laugh. Fine.
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Back in the early 90's, I had a friend who was living down in Austin in his friends walk-in closet. One day he went to work (at Origin) and was sitting in his cube.
Suddenly, he hears screams and gunfire. Two guys dressed from head to toe in black are rampaging the building killing people!
A boatload of police show up and surround the building, as the two black-clothed men throw down their weapons and uncover their faces.
Apparently, it had been a big joke for them to set up this scene. They had selectivly asked some friends at work to act dead when shot, and had informed the secretaries of the gag.
This friend went on to study at the prestigeous Barnum and Baily Clown College (Of which there are even worse, more horrid stories from that era as well).
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Another story I heard was that they had their annual employee meeting, where they discussed financial results. They had rented out a private theatre for the presentation.
As the employees finished arriving, the CEO of the company walked up to the stage and asked for the first slide.
The CEO announced, "We're doing damn good!" and proceeded to show Jurrassic Park (The Movie) a day before it was released.
Actually, from what I've watched in the past - it is pretty easy to get a jr level/average pay type Linux job. (Atleast in the larger cities).
The issue with whether people can administer your system after you leave is moot. Most installations of anything are so "bent" to their operating environment that it is a moot point. Please... millions of people can't be wrong.
There was an expirament done in Germany in the early 1900's of stereo sound. Two phone lines were hooked up and the receivers were placed in front of the Opera stage. Some miles away, people were asked to put two phone receivers to their heads and listen.
Wrong... didn't you read the article? The system doesn't work like silicon. The diamond film converts HEAT to electricity. (Simular to piezo-electric crystals)
So, you're going to have a big black sheet of metal heated up really hot.
Jupiter is so.... Roman! Why don't you quote a great Russian poet in French while you're at it.
The quote is from Euripides, not Sophocles. I don't think it come from any of his works - only that he is creditied with the quote. (May have been the Medea? That was madness)
Antigone would never have said that. She went to her death defending her brother's death before the Gods and Creon!! She knew it was folly, but not madness.
Somewhere in Antigone (the play), Ismene say that a hopeless quest is not maddness at all.
Besides being an blathering obnoxious idiot, here's a point.
As the lead architect at my company, I often talk with CTO's at some extremly large companies. Linux MOST DEFINITLY without a doubt has been heard of and is activly watched. You're unexperienced to think that all CTO's march to the same drum.
Very few read OSDN. But, take a look at the institutional investors in some linux companies. Why would they waste their time?.
Nobody in their right mind would run a large enterprise application on linux. But for the small/medium size apps, it runs Oracle or Informix great. It web serves like a champ. It can be a POS, or a Terminal. Tons of applications that don't require an RS/6000. And don'e forget about Beowulf.
I fail to see why you're so pissed off over something. Ofcourse BUSINESS IS ABOUT MAKING MONEY. Never mistake that. Why do I work? It's about ME MAKING MONEY.
P.S. When did IBM start spending a billion dollars on a single PR move? Maybe because there's a decent chance they'll make more money?
"The media is not a trust this must be destinctly understood. No one group of people meet in a smoke filled room and decide your fate. It just dosn't work that way at all."
Well, actually in a way it is. You see, these days media doesn't actually investigate anything. They use official statements!
In other words, the PR machine of our Government is the best anti-media medicine ever. People are inherently LAZY and will take a decent PR spokeman or article over an interview 90% of the time. (I know, I was in the industry for a few years.).
Besides that, the composition of our journalist is extremly one-sided. Typical liberal attitudes are played well by the PR spokeman. Not only that, but journalist are increasingly more worried about getting "their point of view" and criticism out than reporting the news, and most importantly they never ask how it affects YOU.
And to be final, American people work alot of hours... when their not working, their vegitables. When people worked agriculture, there was ALOT of time to sit, read, and analyze politics. No time for that now!
And to compound that, governemt is getting bigger and producing tons and tons more information. Try keeping up on a daily basis with an in-depy coverage of the house floor. (Just a hint, the last house passed more legislation than any session before).
And if you did do all of this, well you would be considered a freak.
I have... for a few years during college. There is alot more time for thought. You typically work a shift a day (lunch or dinner) and occasionally a double shift. (Weekends).
Shift consist of setup (15-45mins), waiting, and cleanup. For instance, a lunch shift. You get there at 10:45. Setup for 11:00 lunch, and get off work at about 3:00-4:00.
So, you work from 10:45 - 4:00. You miss most of the road traffic. You get the whole rest of the time off.
I'd say that, other than the pay, it's a great job if time is what you want most.
The Zaurus was big. The Newton was big. Even Radio Shack/Casio has a product called the Zoomer that was doing better. (Ironically, the zoomer came from the same designer as the Palm Pilot).
Palm made it because of price/value and the ability to use it. And basically they shot a bunch of money into it and made it really cheap to make. (Something the others had problems with).
I hate to burst your bubble.. but AGP has nothing to do with USB. The problem with Win95 rev 1 is that it simply doesn't support either one (or much more than minimal broken agp, IIRC).
AGP, PCI, USB, IEEE1394, ISA, EISA are all busses.
AGP is an design extension of the PCI bus which allows for convienient memory mapping (Allowing host memory to be used for video mem, pooling and locking), different clocking, and different DMA strategies. Think of it as an extended PCI specification.
PCI was a complete redisign of EISA, with particular interest in bus speed, and wider bus transfers. Best of all was autoconfiguration of IRQ, DMA, and port mapping. PCI operates at 66MHz.
USB = Universal Serial Bus. It is a chained 4 wire serial bus that has much more in common with ethernet than with AGP. It's basically a transmit/receive bus. IEEE1394 is very simular.
EISA and ISA are old standard busses which oftentimes required hardwired IRQ, DMA, and IO ports (because of it's inability to autoselect empty slots and lack of a decent bus controller. These were typically 8, 16 and (EISA)32 bit busses. And they were way slow, operating at 4 MHz or so.
That's why Microsoft uses BSD for its core TCP/IP stack and net utilities, as well as the BIND named server. And they gutted sendmail for it's exchange server.
BSDers know that Microsoft took their thousands of man hours of work, and "artistically" integrated it into Windows. And the fact that we never got to see the "improvements" or "changes" doesn't bother us a bit. Because it's TRULY free.
I think companies would prefer the GPL though, simple because it would keep their competitors watching their backs!
This reminds me of american politics, actually. Just because a person has differing beliefs, people will give them an "F" just because they disagree. Even worse today, people get publically berated, name called, and scourged.
Funny how this element of our leaders gets passed down the line to parents, teachers, majors, etc.
It's sad to say that such things happen all the time. Pursuasive rhetoric is only valuable in our society if it is mainstream... otherwise you get moderated down.
We train people to talk themselves into belief instead of actually learning the history and premise of belief.
Your argument is a good point, though not everyone agrees.
You see, programmers generally lead double lives, such as I do.
At my job, I work long hours developing servers and authentication protocols for a smallish company. I have two patents on high-level security design (They arn't software patents.. just methods)
At home, I work on XFree86, and other stuff. If my company decided to Open Source our Products, I would be very happy. I think we'd actually get more milage than we have gotten on our current Marketing budget.
So then the work I do at home, has generally only positive value to the economy... (Remember, for the vast majority of business, IT is an expense) So having better, free software allows companies (especially smaller ones) to operate better.
And I doubt that you'll have any problems making a living if you're worth your salt. Besides, working on an OSS program gets you a nice resume item as well.
Are you clueless? If it hadn't of been for the openness of the PC architechture, you wouldn't be playing on Linux. Or BSD, or maybe even BeOS.
You play that "I'm happy with what I got, sorry it doesn't work for you" game and seek sympathy because you want the "Best performance out of my gear." Well, that doesn't work with nVidia because their gear is closed.
Hell, the GPL grew out of a conflict between RMS and Xerox over printer drivers... What is so different?
I won't cry if you use Windows to play your games. I'll keep whacking away on Open Source drivers.
I have a river on my property. I can certainly drink it, bottle it, use it to water my garden.. But if I am polluting and that pollution is unmanaged, then I am in the wrong.
Simularly, a radio signal that is on my property. I can certainly listen to it, record it, and show it to me friends and comrads. But if I am "pulluting" that radio signal, such as to affect my neighbors reception, then I am in the wrong.
Because a company decided to broadcast it's content onto the open airwaves.. doesn't mean that I don't have fair use!!! Just because they throw a little bit scrambling into it doesn't make it and more or less of the content. It is just a format. But out american politicians shield a company from loss by PASSING a law to say that it IS illegal?!
Well, to be fair, Brian Paul originally did license Mesa under the GPL. He changed his license when given the opportunity to be included in the XFree86 Distribtion (Which is BSD/MIT licensed).
You are correct.. in the short history of qmail, there have been no security holes.
But the authors of BIND had no concern of hackers when it was originally written. Hindsight is always clearer than forsight.
But BIND is here.. it IS working day in and day out. Problems are serious, but it is working well for the vast majority of users.
I have no doubt that DJB is a good programmer... and I fully advocate good diversity. But don't advocate the casual trashing of BIND. It is the rock on which we build the internet.
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Discplaimer: Some people are offended at death. I did not imagine this story, nor do I condone this or give any personal opinions as to the validity of it. This is not funny. Do not laugh. Fine.
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Back in the early 90's, I had a friend who was living down in Austin in his friends walk-in closet. One day he went to work (at Origin) and was sitting in his cube.
Suddenly, he hears screams and gunfire. Two guys dressed from head to toe in black are rampaging the building killing people!
A boatload of police show up and surround the building, as the two black-clothed men throw down their weapons and uncover their faces.
Apparently, it had been a big joke for them to set up this scene. They had selectivly asked some friends at work to act dead when shot, and had informed the secretaries of the gag.
This friend went on to study at the prestigeous Barnum and Baily Clown College (Of which there are even worse, more horrid stories from that era as well).
----
Another story I heard was that they had their annual employee meeting, where they discussed financial results. They had rented out a private theatre for the presentation.
As the employees finished arriving, the CEO of the company walked up to the stage and asked for the first slide.
The CEO announced, "We're doing damn good!" and proceeded to show Jurrassic Park (The Movie) a day before it was released.
Now, wasn't that a nicer story.
- Pan
History link here
Pan
Actually, from what I've watched in the past - it is pretty easy to get a jr level/average pay type Linux job. (Atleast in the larger cities).
The issue with whether people can administer your system after you leave is moot. Most installations of anything are so "bent" to their operating environment that it is a moot point. Please... millions of people can't be wrong.
Good luck -
Pan
There was an expirament done in Germany in the early 1900's of stereo sound. Two phone lines were hooked up and the receivers were placed in front of the Opera stage. Some miles away, people were asked to put two phone receivers to their heads and listen.
Apparently, it was marvelous.
Pan
Check out evolution... it supports MH and mbox,.. possibly others.
Wrong... didn't you read the article? The system doesn't work like silicon. The diamond film converts HEAT to electricity. (Simular to piezo-electric crystals)
So, you're going to have a big black sheet of metal heated up really hot.
Pan
Jupiter is so.... Roman! Why don't you quote a great Russian poet in French while you're at it.
The quote is from Euripides, not Sophocles. I don't think it come from any of his works - only that he is creditied with the quote. (May have been the Medea? That was madness)
Antigone would never have said that. She went to her death defending her brother's death before the Gods and Creon!! She knew it was folly, but not madness.
Somewhere in Antigone (the play), Ismene say that a hopeless quest is not maddness at all.
Pan
Besides being an blathering obnoxious idiot, here's a point.
As the lead architect at my company, I often talk with CTO's at some extremly large companies. Linux MOST DEFINITLY without a doubt has been heard of and is activly watched. You're unexperienced to think that all CTO's march to the same drum.
Very few read OSDN. But, take a look at the institutional investors in some linux companies. Why would they waste their time?.
Nobody in their right mind would run a large enterprise application on linux. But for the small/medium size apps, it runs Oracle or Informix great. It web serves like a champ. It can be a POS, or a Terminal. Tons of applications that don't require an RS/6000. And don'e forget about Beowulf.
I fail to see why you're so pissed off over something. Ofcourse BUSINESS IS ABOUT MAKING MONEY. Never mistake that. Why do I work? It's about ME MAKING MONEY.
P.S. When did IBM start spending a billion dollars on a single PR move? Maybe because there's a decent chance they'll make more money?
Pan
"The media is not a trust this must be destinctly understood. No one group of people meet in a smoke filled room and decide your fate. It just dosn't work that way at all."
Well, actually in a way it is. You see, these days media doesn't actually investigate anything. They use official statements!
In other words, the PR machine of our Government is the best anti-media medicine ever. People are inherently LAZY and will take a decent PR spokeman or article over an interview 90% of the time. (I know, I was in the industry for a few years.).
Besides that, the composition of our journalist is extremly one-sided. Typical liberal attitudes are played well by the PR spokeman. Not only that, but journalist are increasingly more worried about getting "their point of view" and criticism out than reporting the news, and most importantly they never ask how it affects YOU.
And to be final, American people work alot of hours... when their not working, their vegitables. When people worked agriculture, there was ALOT of time to sit, read, and analyze politics. No time for that now!
And to compound that, governemt is getting bigger and producing tons and tons more information. Try keeping up on a daily basis with an in-depy coverage of the house floor. (Just a hint, the last house passed more legislation than any session before).
And if you did do all of this, well you would be considered a freak.
Pan
I have... for a few years during college. There is alot more time for thought. You typically work a shift a day (lunch or dinner) and occasionally a double shift. (Weekends).
Shift consist of setup (15-45mins), waiting, and cleanup. For instance, a lunch shift. You get there at 10:45. Setup for 11:00 lunch, and get off work at about 3:00-4:00.
So, you work from 10:45 - 4:00. You miss most of the road traffic. You get the whole rest of the time off.
I'd say that, other than the pay, it's a great job if time is what you want most.
Pan
Wrong!
The Zaurus was big. The Newton was big. Even Radio Shack/Casio has a product called the Zoomer that was doing better. (Ironically, the zoomer came from the same designer as the Palm Pilot).
Palm made it because of price/value and the ability to use it. And basically they shot a bunch of money into it and made it really cheap to make. (Something the others had problems with).
Pan
I hate to burst your bubble.. but AGP has nothing to do with USB. The problem with Win95 rev 1 is that it simply doesn't support either one (or much more than minimal broken agp, IIRC).
AGP, PCI, USB, IEEE1394, ISA, EISA are all busses.
AGP is an design extension of the PCI bus which allows for convienient memory mapping (Allowing host memory to be used for video mem, pooling and locking), different clocking, and different DMA strategies. Think of it as an extended PCI specification.
PCI was a complete redisign of EISA, with particular interest in bus speed, and wider bus transfers. Best of all was autoconfiguration of IRQ, DMA, and port mapping. PCI operates at 66MHz.
USB = Universal Serial Bus. It is a chained 4 wire serial bus that has much more in common with ethernet than with AGP. It's basically a transmit/receive bus. IEEE1394 is very simular.
EISA and ISA are old standard busses which oftentimes required hardwired IRQ, DMA, and IO ports (because of it's inability to autoselect empty slots and lack of a decent bus controller. These were typically 8, 16 and (EISA)32 bit busses. And they were way slow, operating at 4 MHz or so.
So there you have it.
Pan
Heck.. they're probably taking home more money because of those legal teams...
100% TAX WRITEOFF
Pan
That's why Microsoft uses BSD for its core TCP/IP stack and net utilities, as well as the BIND named server. And they gutted sendmail for it's exchange server.
BSDers know that Microsoft took their thousands of man hours of work, and "artistically" integrated it into Windows. And the fact that we never got to see the "improvements" or "changes" doesn't bother us a bit. Because it's TRULY free.
I think companies would prefer the GPL though, simple because it would keep their competitors watching their backs!
pan
This reminds me of american politics, actually. Just because a person has differing beliefs, people will give them an "F" just because they disagree. Even worse today, people get publically berated, name called, and scourged.
Funny how this element of our leaders gets passed down the line to parents, teachers, majors, etc.
It's sad to say that such things happen all the time. Pursuasive rhetoric is only valuable in our society if it is mainstream... otherwise you get moderated down.
We train people to talk themselves into belief instead of actually learning the history and premise of belief.
Pan
You got the joke all wrong...
it was a 16 year old girl, and it was President Clinton.
President Bush would of said, "I don't agree with that, but we can agree to disagree." when he said he didn't believe in christ.
Pan
What about Livid Emacs, XEmacs, and GNU Emacs...
Or how about FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD..
Happens all the time.
Pan
UDP is generally disdained because of the fact that almost all firewalls and proxies are configured to ignore it.
Pan
Pezz Dispensers
Your argument is a good point, though not everyone agrees.
You see, programmers generally lead double lives, such as I do.
At my job, I work long hours developing servers and authentication protocols for a smallish company. I have two patents on high-level security design (They arn't software patents.. just methods)
At home, I work on XFree86, and other stuff. If my company decided to Open Source our Products, I would be very happy. I think we'd actually get more milage than we have gotten on our current Marketing budget.
So then the work I do at home, has generally only positive value to the economy... (Remember, for the vast majority of business, IT is an expense) So having better, free software allows companies (especially smaller ones) to operate better.
And I doubt that you'll have any problems making a living if you're worth your salt. Besides, working on an OSS program gets you a nice resume item as well.
Pan
It's more like buying a hummer, but not being allowed to drive it on sundays?! So yeah, sell and get a Matrox G400 (my current favorite)
Pan
Are you clueless? If it hadn't of been for the openness of the PC architechture, you wouldn't be playing on Linux. Or BSD, or maybe even BeOS.
You play that "I'm happy with what I got, sorry it doesn't work for you" game and seek sympathy because you want the "Best performance out of my gear." Well, that doesn't work with nVidia because their gear is closed.
Hell, the GPL grew out of a conflict between RMS and Xerox over printer drivers... What is so different?
I won't cry if you use Windows to play your games. I'll keep whacking away on Open Source drivers.
Pan
OKay.. here's some logic...
I have a river on my property. I can certainly drink it, bottle it, use it to water my garden.. But if I am polluting and that pollution is unmanaged, then I am in the wrong.
Simularly, a radio signal that is on my property. I can certainly listen to it, record it, and show it to me friends and comrads. But if I am "pulluting" that radio signal, such as to affect my neighbors reception, then I am in the wrong.
Because a company decided to broadcast it's content onto the open airwaves.. doesn't mean that I don't have fair use!!! Just because they throw a little bit scrambling into it doesn't make it and more or less of the content. It is just a format. But out american politicians shield a company from loss by PASSING a law to say that it IS illegal?!
Pan
Well, to be fair, Brian Paul originally did license Mesa under the GPL. He changed his license when given the opportunity to be included in the XFree86 Distribtion (Which is BSD/MIT licensed).
Which has been great, BTW.
pan
You are correct.. in the short history of qmail, there have been no security holes.
But the authors of BIND had no concern of hackers when it was originally written. Hindsight is always clearer than forsight.
But BIND is here.. it IS working day in and day out. Problems are serious, but it is working well for the vast majority of users.
I have no doubt that DJB is a good programmer... and I fully advocate good diversity. But don't advocate the casual trashing of BIND. It is the rock on which we build the internet.
Pan