Wait a minute! These fish are placed in angling pools? As in, to be caught? What's the point? Just wait a half hour till the batteries die, and net them out of the water.:)
Seriously though, if these things present a reasonable facimile of fish, in terms of fishing for them, then this really is something interesting. If they just float around, that's nothing, but if they discriminate bait, put up a fight, and spit the hook... Well, I'd still prefer spearing them.:)
that if the ISP crosses a state line (as mine does) between their local dial-up and their main center, then the ISP will incur a long-distance charge... Which I'm sure they're more than happy to pass onto their subscribers.
Now, if the ISP has a leased line, and the cost doesn't increase.. GREAT! But no business is going to eat a cost increase in favor of it's customer.
Just as with the cigarette tax, it's the customer that will end up paying the difference.
Man, after reading industry news on/., a CNN transcript is downright PAINFUL. It's amazing how disjoint and messy 8 second soundbytes are in text. Linux needs not such coverage. Reading that piece (of crap) was like playing 52 pickup in a rose garden.
f you ignore it, you'll only be inviting more. it's not that the spammers say "Oh gee, he didn't respond, i guess we won't e-mail him again". You're on a mailing list. No one bothers to check it.
True. I've seen a tool that will forge an 'address not valid' response, but it all depends on the logic (or lack thereof) on the other end. Besides, a forged self-defense reply is no better then a false original, right?
I agree that the passive approach doesn't get the point across, but my time is too valuable for me to look at full headers, figure out where it REALLY came from (though that's not even possible in some cases) and sending a nastygram to the postmaster there.
Further, setting up an intelligent filter doesn't get rid of the problem either, since at best, you'll never get spam from that specific address or site - spammers jump around too much for that to be a definitive filter. And blanketting out whole domain is too heavy handed. Though I hate to admit it, I have friends on uunet, and other spammer favored sites.
I do kill all mail that comes from.hk,.tw etc, but that doesn't work well either, since there's plenty of people I might like to hear from overseas..
Legislation would solve the problem if a) spam were not an international nuisance - as I get as much crap from the orient as I do from.nl and.de - and US laws are not enforcable out there. And... b) spam could be clearly defined, which it can't. If it could, I'd have a reliable filter in place already, and it would be a moot point for me. But, there's no specific site to be regulated, no verbage to be pinned down in the messages, nothing to clearly define it.
And I HAVE actually gotten useful spam. After registering a product, I've gotten unsolicited upgrade offers, seminar invitations, pointers to related resources... Same stuff I'd get in the mail - some of which I've been interested in.
Bulk mailers pay significantly less for USPS services then do individual consumers. It's an economies of scale approach that has outlived it's usefulness.
If the bulk mailers were to pay the current 33 cent / envelope cost, we'd all get fewer trees in the mail. But then they too would resort to eSPAM.
As for the gov making money on postage - well... They make money through taxes and subsidize the Postal Service.
The law is a step in the right direction, but there are many problems, and caveats, along the way.
First and foremost, as with all things 'legal', it's going to be a matter of MONEY. The only people that will be able to substantiate suffering from SPAM, will be those that can demonstrate a financial loss caused by unsolicited email.. ISPs are most probably the only ones to really benefit from this law - by citing wasted bandwidth, storage and processing requirements, and disgruntled former subscribers. The fact that AOL is based in Virginia pretty much seals it. If we look close enough, I'm sure that AOL will turn out to be the driving force (lobby) behind the bill.
Secondly, just what constitutes 'malicious' SPAM? Is it a mass-mailing targetting over a certain number of users on a particular domain? Is it subject matter? One man's SPAM is another's newsletter or business opportunity. Is 'unsolicited' really the key phrase?
I think that this is a financially driven effort that will not benefit consumers in the long run. A foolproof definition of SPAM is required before it can be regulated.
Land Rovers... Same price, half the size, half the power.
They're a yuppie car, just in case a mountain suddenly sprouts in the middle of London. Stick to your Bentley's and leave TRUCKS to people with some land to cover.:)
At least if a reboot was required, you'd know that it's been turned on or off. This way, what's to prevent a software product to just toggle it without the users knowledge?
I know, I know, there's bound to be a freebie utility to monitor it's state, and keep it off, but still..
Anyone who can buy a $60k car, can afford to have it repainted. Hell, I'd stick to the SW theme, but just paint the body panels different shades of grey, to look like an X-wing.
Hummers are made by Chrysler - who incidentally also makes the M-1 Abrams tank. They retail to civilians for $60k-$80k depending on options and model. The military pays an additional $100k or so, just to have the radio and windows taken out, and to have the nice metal doors replaced with a Kevlar version. I think they also get a gun mount on the roof - or some other such luxury feature.
Does anyone out there have specs? Engine displacement? HP? Velocity characteristics? (AHEM!) Fuel economy?
They come in three flavors, a pick-up style (like the one at auction) that has an optional canvas (Jeep Wrangler type) 'tent' over the bed, a sharply angled hatch-back with a door that opens on a side hinge (very para-military looking), and a full cabin with a traditional side hinged back (looks like the p-up with canvas, but is a permanent roof).
Lamborghini has nothing to do with these beasts, as Hummers are made of REAL THICK METAL. They are a totally different dimension of 'impressive' as compared to a Euro-anything.
Not only is the US behind in math; judging by the AC to whose post I am replying, it is also behind in ENGLISH!
My GOD man! The original Russian poster had better English skills than you do! When you stand up for your own country's educational system, make sure you do not embarrass it in the process.
As for the accomplishments of the US, no one will dispute what you've said. However, the Russians were the first in space. They were the first with a permanent station out there. Does the name Tesla ring a bell? How about Sikorsky?
Point being, every country has it's flashes of brilliance. The US has an incredible amount of resources, and this is why it attracts so many foreign students into it's graduate programs and it's think-tanks. It's a quality of life thing, nothing more, nothing less. This is the land of opportunity for people who are willing to work hard - and a land of welfare for those who are not.
Americans are not genetically superior - as is implied in many "we're better" postings. That kind of thinking is what got the Germans in trouble.:)
Americans seem to have this view, that if a majority of individuals in a society actually consider the welfare of the society in their actions, then those individuals, and therefore the society they comprise, is necessarily SOCIALIST.
This is simply not so. European nations have existed as entities for over a thousand years. They have developed a consistent CULTURE that is familiar 'first hand' with long term consequences. This is where the 'socialist' interpretation comes from. Europeans KNOW that their actions affect their neighbors - so they are more considerate and respectful of other's rights.
This is not 'socialism', it is cultural courtesy and social responsibility.
Americans have only been around as a culture for 200 or so years. They are used to fast, faster, fastest. Hit and run, boom and bust. There's no longevity. This is why there are abborations such as Jack Kevorkian, Insurance fraud, and a 60% divorce rate. Americans, as a culture, do not understand the meaning of COMMITMENT to your FELLOW MAN.
Americans have only had one major war on their own soil in their entire history, and that one was against themselves. Europeans as a culture, have been through war after war, for centuries. They know that they can depend on each other in times of need.
And this is how I get to the point of the original article. Europeans are culturally conditioned to work towards a COMMON GOOD with no holds barred - precisely how open source software fits into the equation.
Americans (present company exempted) try to get ahead at all costs, even by ripping each other off. This is why copyrights are such an issue, this is why people sue each other for 'intellectual property' and other frivalous bs, this is why there is insurance fraud and why generations of people spend their lives on welfare. Microsoft is a red-blooded American company. Linus is a Finn - a European academic. ($$$'s are good bait)
Is this anything like their Buran, which was supposed to kick our Space Shuttle's butt, but never got beyond the testing phase - all the while ours were launching THEIR satelites??
I'll believe Russian cutting egde technology when I see it. Until then, Yuri Gagarin was their greatest scientific achievement of the century, and that's old news. They certainly DO NOT lack the brain power, their scientists are brilliant. But with little resources, you can't bring ideas to fruition. This is an attempt at investment funding.
Sorry to the Russian readers, but if your neighbors are burning furniture for heat, you're not 'cutting edge'. Yes, we have homeless too, but not for lack of resources.
I've been using an M$ 'natural' kbd for over two years, and I'm very comfortable with it. Keeps my wrists from getting tinggly. But I'd love to try it in Dvorak.
The greatest kbd I've ever used came from a 'Northgate' computer, in the early '90's. Remember those? They had a "*" key and a "" key where the "Win" keys are on the clone boards. That REALLY made it handy.
So I guess it's just a matter of choice.
I can't see how anyone can like the IBM mice though. Those two freaky button-bars, and the jacked-up rear end that made it look like a dragster.. That was definite abuse on my hands.
Any experience with trackballs out there? Does having them in one place make it easier to reach for them - when you DO have to take your hands of the keys?
About ten years ago, I went to Florida on vacation. On the Ft. Lauderdale boardwalk, I bought a little tin can, roughly the size of a Coke can, labelled "Canned Florida Sunshine". A typical tourist novelty - like sand in shorts.
I've never openned it for fear of the sunshine getting out. But now, if I have some of this supercooled atom soup, I can open the can, capture the sunshine, and enjoy it during the New England winter.:)
This is, sort of, the first thing that popped into my mind too. Consider fiber optic networking. There is a speed limit (not a bandwidth one) imposed on these networks because we can not pump data into them fast enough. But once data is in there, it's moving real fast.
It's moving so fast in fact, that a single bit of data takes up a whole lot of space. You need a very long piece of cable to 'pipeline' a very short burst of data. Hence, the lengths of cable in an optical FDDI ring must be pretty significant, else a data packet can start arriving at the original station before it's finished being sent. This poses a problem.
Now, with a EBC fiber, with light moving REAL SLOW, you can pump in individual photons for individual bits... So the data density per linear distance increases significantly, as the rate of transmission decreases proportionally. Not exactly a good solution for a networking medium...
But, consider a very short (distance) EBC optical buffer that data is stuffed into; and once full, a switch opens and a massive burt of data (oh, a GB) blasts down the pike at the speed of light.
Even though the ISP may not be liable in the US, the UK may well be another story entirely. The US legal standards, such as they are, are not universal.
The UK, for example, does have a frivalous bounder on their books. If you sue, and loose, you pay the other guys legal fees.
And furthermore, there's nothing common about common sense.
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Wait a minute! These fish are placed in angling pools? As in, to be caught? What's the point? Just wait a half hour till the batteries die, and net them out of the water. :)
:)
Seriously though, if these things present a reasonable facimile of fish, in terms of fishing for them, then this really is something interesting. If they just float around, that's nothing, but if they discriminate bait, put up a fight, and spit the hook... Well, I'd still prefer spearing them.
that if the ISP crosses a state line (as mine does) between their local dial-up and their main center, then the ISP will incur a long-distance charge... Which I'm sure they're more than happy to pass onto their subscribers.
Now, if the ISP has a leased line, and the cost doesn't increase.. GREAT! But no business is going to eat a cost increase in favor of it's customer.
Just as with the cigarette tax, it's the customer that will end up paying the difference.
Man, after reading industry news on /., a CNN transcript is downright PAINFUL. It's amazing how disjoint and messy 8 second soundbytes are in text. Linux needs not such coverage. Reading that piece (of crap) was like playing 52 pickup in a rose garden.
f you ignore it, you'll only be inviting more. it's not that the spammers say "Oh gee, he didn't
respond, i guess we won't e-mail him again". You're on a mailing list. No one bothers to check it.
True. I've seen a tool that will forge an 'address not valid' response, but it all depends on the logic (or lack thereof) on the other end. Besides, a forged self-defense reply is no better then a false original, right?
I agree that the passive approach doesn't get the point across, but my time is too valuable for me to look at full headers, figure out where it REALLY came from (though that's not even possible in some cases) and sending a nastygram to the postmaster there.
.hk, .tw etc, but that doesn't work well either, since there's plenty of people I might like to hear from overseas..
.nl and .de - and US laws are not enforcable out there. And...
Further, setting up an intelligent filter doesn't get rid of the problem either, since at best, you'll never get spam from that specific address or site - spammers jump around too much for that to be a definitive filter. And blanketting out whole domain is too heavy handed. Though I hate to admit it, I have friends on uunet, and other spammer favored sites.
I do kill all mail that comes from
Legislation would solve the problem if
a) spam were not an international nuisance - as I get as much crap from the orient as I do from
b) spam could be clearly defined, which it can't. If it could, I'd have a reliable filter in place already, and it would be a moot point for me. But, there's no specific site to be regulated, no verbage to be pinned down in the messages, nothing to clearly define it.
And I HAVE actually gotten useful spam. After registering a product, I've gotten unsolicited upgrade offers, seminar invitations, pointers to related resources... Same stuff I'd get in the mail - some of which I've been interested in.
And why nail everyone between you and him with your vengence.
:)
The DELETE button works well, and takes less time then picking through the headers, verifying addresses...
-- If you ignore him, he'll go away. If you find him, and KILL HIM, he'll never come back.
Bulk mailers pay significantly less for USPS services then do individual consumers. It's an economies of scale approach that has outlived it's usefulness.
If the bulk mailers were to pay the current 33 cent / envelope cost, we'd all get fewer trees in the mail. But then they too would resort to eSPAM.
As for the gov making money on postage - well... They make money through taxes and subsidize the Postal Service.
The law is a step in the right direction, but there are many problems, and caveats, along the way.
First and foremost, as with all things 'legal', it's going to be a matter of MONEY. The only people that will be able to substantiate suffering from SPAM, will be those that can demonstrate a financial loss caused by unsolicited email.. ISPs are most probably the only ones to really benefit from this law - by citing wasted bandwidth, storage and processing requirements, and disgruntled former subscribers. The fact that AOL is based in Virginia pretty much seals it. If we look close enough, I'm sure that AOL will turn out to be the driving force (lobby) behind the bill.
Secondly, just what constitutes 'malicious' SPAM? Is it a mass-mailing targetting over a certain number of users on a particular domain? Is it subject matter? One man's SPAM is another's newsletter or business opportunity. Is 'unsolicited' really the key phrase?
I think that this is a financially driven effort that will not benefit consumers in the long run.
A foolproof definition of SPAM is required before it can be regulated.
It does to "Tough guy vs the Mob" movies what Scream did to the slasher genre. It was a riot, despite the blood and blow-ups.
Land Rovers... Same price, half the size, half the power.
:)
They're a yuppie car, just in case a mountain suddenly sprouts in the middle of London. Stick to your Bentley's and leave TRUCKS to people with some land to cover.
An armored unicycle! Ha! :)
No, I know... It's not a tank.
With emphasis on the Fi.
Let's enjoy it for the fantasy masterpiece that it is, rather then try to explain the magic away.
Geez! Next thing you know, people will speculate on the MIPS of C3PO and trying to do a gene sequence of a Wookie.
At least if a reboot was required, you'd know that it's been turned on or off. This way, what's to prevent a software product to just toggle it without the users knowledge?
I know, I know, there's bound to be a freebie utility to monitor it's state, and keep it off, but still..
Since they've had the 'Woody' available for ages.
Anyone who can buy a $60k car, can afford to have it repainted. Hell, I'd stick to the SW theme, but just paint the body panels different shades of grey, to look like an X-wing.
Hummers are made by Chrysler - who incidentally also makes the M-1 Abrams tank. They retail to civilians for $60k-$80k depending on options and model. The military pays an additional $100k or so, just to have the radio and windows taken out, and to have the nice metal doors replaced with a Kevlar version. I think they also get a gun mount on the roof - or some other such luxury feature.
Does anyone out there have specs? Engine displacement? HP? Velocity characteristics? (AHEM!) Fuel economy?
They come in three flavors, a pick-up style (like the one at auction) that has an optional canvas (Jeep Wrangler type) 'tent' over the bed, a sharply angled hatch-back with a door that opens on a side hinge (very para-military looking), and a full cabin with a traditional side hinged back (looks like the p-up with canvas, but is a permanent roof).
Lamborghini has nothing to do with these beasts, as Hummers are made of REAL THICK METAL. They are a totally different dimension of 'impressive' as compared to a Euro-anything.
Not only is the US behind in math; judging by the AC to whose post I am replying, it is also behind in ENGLISH!
:)
My GOD man! The original Russian poster had better English skills than you do! When you stand up for your own country's educational system, make sure you do not embarrass it in the process.
As for the accomplishments of the US, no one will dispute what you've said. However, the Russians were the first in space. They were the first with a permanent station out there. Does the name Tesla ring a bell? How about Sikorsky?
Point being, every country has it's flashes of brilliance. The US has an incredible amount of resources, and this is why it attracts so many foreign students into it's graduate programs and it's think-tanks. It's a quality of life thing, nothing more, nothing less. This is the land of opportunity for people who are willing to work hard - and a land of welfare for those who are not.
Americans are not genetically superior - as is implied in many "we're better" postings. That kind of thinking is what got the Germans in trouble.
But at least I learned something in the precess.
Cheers!
Americans seem to have this view, that if a majority of individuals in a society actually consider the welfare of the society in their actions, then those individuals, and therefore the society they comprise, is necessarily SOCIALIST.
This is simply not so. European nations have existed as entities for over a thousand years. They have developed a consistent CULTURE that is familiar 'first hand' with long term consequences. This is where the 'socialist' interpretation comes from. Europeans KNOW that their actions affect their neighbors - so they are more considerate and respectful of other's rights.
This is not 'socialism', it is cultural courtesy and social responsibility.
Americans have only been around as a culture for 200 or so years. They are used to fast, faster, fastest. Hit and run, boom and bust. There's no longevity. This is why there are abborations such as Jack Kevorkian, Insurance fraud, and a 60% divorce rate. Americans, as a culture, do not understand the meaning of COMMITMENT to your FELLOW MAN.
Americans have only had one major war on their own soil in their entire history, and that one was against themselves. Europeans as a culture, have been through war after war, for centuries. They know that they can depend on each other in times of need.
And this is how I get to the point of the original article. Europeans are culturally conditioned to work towards a COMMON GOOD with no holds barred - precisely how open source software fits into the equation.
Americans (present company exempted) try to get ahead at all costs, even by ripping each other off. This is why copyrights are such an issue, this is why people sue each other for 'intellectual property' and other frivalous bs, this is why there is insurance fraud and why generations of people spend their lives on welfare. Microsoft is a red-blooded American company. Linus is a Finn - a European academic. ($$$'s are good bait)
Is this anything like their Buran, which was supposed to kick our Space Shuttle's butt, but never got beyond the testing phase - all the while ours were launching THEIR satelites??
I'll believe Russian cutting egde technology when I see it. Until then, Yuri Gagarin was their greatest scientific achievement of the century, and that's old news. They certainly DO NOT lack the brain power, their scientists are brilliant. But with little resources, you can't bring ideas to fruition. This is an attempt at investment funding.
Sorry to the Russian readers, but if your neighbors are burning furniture for heat, you're not 'cutting edge'. Yes, we have homeless too, but not for lack of resources.
Theory is nice, publish it. Practice is better.
I've been using an M$ 'natural' kbd for over two years, and I'm very comfortable with it. Keeps my wrists from getting tinggly. But I'd love to try it in Dvorak.
The greatest kbd I've ever used came from a 'Northgate' computer, in the early '90's. Remember those? They had a "*" key and a "" key where the "Win" keys are on the clone boards. That REALLY made it handy.
So I guess it's just a matter of choice.
I can't see how anyone can like the IBM mice though. Those two freaky button-bars, and the jacked-up rear end that made it look like a dragster.. That was definite abuse on my hands.
Any experience with trackballs out there? Does having them in one place make it easier to reach for them - when you DO have to take your hands of the keys?
About ten years ago, I went to Florida on vacation. On the Ft. Lauderdale boardwalk, I bought a little tin can, roughly the size of a Coke can, labelled "Canned Florida Sunshine". A typical tourist novelty - like sand in shorts.
:)
I've never openned it for fear of the sunshine getting out. But now, if I have some of this supercooled atom soup, I can open the can, capture the sunshine, and enjoy it during the New England winter.
This is, sort of, the first thing that popped into my mind too. Consider fiber optic networking.
There is a speed limit (not a bandwidth one) imposed on these networks because we can not pump data into them fast enough. But once data is in there, it's moving real fast.
It's moving so fast in fact, that a single bit of data takes up a whole lot of space. You need a very long piece of cable to 'pipeline' a very short burst of data. Hence, the lengths of cable in an optical FDDI ring must be pretty significant, else a data packet can start arriving at the original station before it's finished being sent. This poses a problem.
Now, with a EBC fiber, with light moving REAL SLOW, you can pump in individual photons for individual bits... So the data density per linear distance increases significantly, as the rate of transmission decreases proportionally. Not exactly a good solution for a networking medium...
But, consider a very short (distance) EBC optical buffer that data is stuffed into; and once full, a switch opens and a massive burt of data (oh, a GB) blasts down the pike at the speed of light.
Even though the ISP may not be liable in the US, the UK may well be another story entirely. The US legal standards, such as they are, are not universal.
The UK, for example, does have a frivalous bounder on their books. If you sue, and loose, you pay the other guys legal fees.
And furthermore, there's nothing common about common sense.
WinCE units use a virtual area, that goes away at the press of an on-screen button. A better solution, IMHO.
:)
It's too bad that it is probably a patented, inseparable feature of the WinCE OS - you know, sort of like a browser and a mouse with a wheel on it.