"still waiting for them when the place blew up and sank."
Don't you just HATE when that happens? And, who knows WHERE the hell the post office actually sent the parts! Zimbabwe? Rhodesia? Pakistan? Someone in Atlantis may get our parts, instead of what they ordered, and sink THEIR boats!
Always remember - you get what you pay for. You paid for marketing, bling, and glitz. That's what you got. If you wanted a telephone, you would have bought something without Microsoft on it.
So, let me try to get this straight. Microsoft is a bad company, because they don't provide free carbonated beverages? Damn.
I suppose you have lots of facts and figures to cite, showing just how many companies in the world DO supply free soda pop for their employees?
I don't drink much soda. I much prefer my caffeine to be hot, black, and sweet. Maybe I should take my company to court for not providing the coffee that I drink all day? Worse - I had to buy my own coffee pot! Oh - wait. The company does allow me free water to make the coffee with. Maybe I should shut up, while I'm ahead. They COULD make me buy my own bottled water to make coffee!
Actually - I'd be quite happy to see piracy increase by orders of magnitude. I hope it drives a bunch of US companies to bankruptcy.
Let's think a couple minutes. What exactly has fueled all the exporting of American jobs? Corporate greed. Outsourcing? Corporate greed. Copyright? Corporate greed. Corporations export jobs by the thousands, and tens of thousands - but they still want to be paid - for WHAT?
Screw 'em. Let them keep exporting jobs. And, they can export all those executive bonuses along with the jobs. Export all the profits that the shareholders are dreaming of. Export it all. I have absolutely no loyalty to any corporation, as they have no loyalty to American workers.
This has been going on for about 30 years now. I kept expecting things to reach an equilibrium. No equilibrium is visible on any horizon yet.
I'm waiting for the day that only the wealthier 25% of American can afford to buy cheap Chinese junk at Wal-Mart. RIAA and MPAA execs will be among that wealthier 25% - for awhile. Until the American people revolt, and put all those execs in line for firing squads or guillotines.
Legalizing alcohol didn't create more alcoholics. To support your position, you would have to find statistics showing that the use and abuse of alcohol became significantly more widespread after prohibition was repealed.
But, your take on depriving drug gangs of revenue is accurate. Every dollar's worth of pot that remains unregulated and untaxed is a dollar's worth of pot that the cartels profit from. It's time to change that.
Actually, no state can "afford" to incarcerate all the users. Counties are building more and bigger jails, and states are building additions to prisons, and there is still a shortage of space in which to put prisoners. The Feds can't afford to lock up all the pot smokers, any more than the states can.
It's far past time to end prohibition. One of the first lessons a good leader learns is to NEVER issue an order that won't be obeyed. Our federal government has failed at leadership.
You are correct. Islam is not a country. It is an empire, ruled by a Caliph. The people of Islam await the Caliph, much as Christianity awaits the return of Christ, or as Judaism awaits the Messiah. The Empire still exists, but the Emperor doesn't occupy his throne. I'm not sure just how good the Wikipedia is on the subject, but take a look:
You may be surprised, but I have asked for exactly that sort of thing here, and on several other forums. You, Sir, are the first to point me to what I have asked for.
So far, I've seen no mention of the size of L1, L2, or L3 caches, or the bandwidth of channels for memory, or anything else.
I want to know a LOT MORE than just the speed of those CPU's. If the cores have poorly implemented hyperthreading in comparison to the quad, they don't stand a chance.
Rule of law and the free practice of religion have little to do with a religion that has set itself up as the enemy of my nation. You've failed to take my challenge, and you can't show me any list of Imams who are tolerant to Western ideals, and intolerant to the "extremists". I insist that the "extremists" aren't extreme at all. They are ACCEPTED by mainstream Islam. Accepted and supported with donations arriving every day, from common people in every city in Islam.
The use of violence against places of worship? Funny that you mention that. How many cowardly bastard jihadists hide in those precious places of worship? Do the imams kick those armed soldiers out of their places of worship? Nope. The imams welcome the jihadists. Don't give me that nonsense about places of worship.
I'm finished here. I may not have "won" this discussion, but you have most certainly lost it. You've repeatedly resorted to calling names, and judging me with various descriptions such as this most recent "un-American" post.
You want to open this "bigot's" mind? Find me a list of imams who support the United States of America, and the freedoms that we enjoy. I challenge. Put your money where your mouth is.
What I see in this world, are a bunch of Moslem bigots who are waiting for the downfall of Israel and the United States, along with most of the rest of Western civilization. What I see are a billion Moslems waiting for that Sultan to rule the world under Sharia law. What I see, are educated women being punished around the world for having an education.
Show me that I am wrong. Show me that the majority of Moslems love the infidels just the way they are.
Perhaps you would like to quote parts of the Quran to me? The passages where the prophet tells his followers that it's alright to lie to an infidel, to cheat an infidel, to take an infidel's wives? The Quran is filled with more violence than the Christian's bible - both the old and the new testaments. Violence, deception, and rationalizations.
Bigotry? Yeah, maybe I'm the bigot here - and maybe you are. At least I'm intelligent enough to see that Islam is at odds with almost everything that the West stands for. If that makes me a bigot, so be it. But, you can admit your own bigotry, thank you.
I'm pretty damned sure that relatively few of them stand for anything compatible with life in the United States. As I said - when the Imams in a dozen capitals and holy cities start issuing fatwas AGAINST the extremists - then we can talk.
Compare the silence of the Imams with the noises coming from the Vatican, regarding child molestation. The Vatican doesn't do nearly enough to find or to punish priests who sexually abuse children - but at least they make a few noises that sound like they condemn child molesters. The Imams? They don't even make noises. If anything, they support those "extremists".
Did you see the welcome that the Lockerbie bomber dude got when he was released from Scotland? It was a hero's welcome. "Welcome home, Hero! We're so proud that you killed a plane load of western infidels! And, we're even more proud that you made fools of their judicial people! Welcome again, HERO!"
When the twin towers came tumbling down, there wasn't a "small minority" of people dancing in the streets, rejoicing. Do you need me to link you to some Youtube videos? As for the rest of the world's religions - where have I defended them in this discussion? I've always condemned the Catholic Church for their crusades, for their inquisitions, and for various lesser evils. I've also condemned Protestantism for their fanatical support of Zionism. I've condemned the Zionists for their injustices in Palestine. I've never said much bad about Judaism, aside from the Zionists. Other religions are outside of my experience and knowledge - so you won't find me condemning or defending them.
And, yes, someone blowing up a mosque being built at Ground Zero would rank among the patriots with me.
As I said - when Islam gets their act together, and takes control of all those "extremist groups" that claim to speak for Islam, THEN we might discuss the erection of a mosque near the site of the Twin Towers. As long as Islam funnels money to all those "extremist groups" to keep them in operation, no, we don't need any mosque on hallowed ground.
I want to hear Imams from Mecca to Teheran to Jerusalem declaring fatwas against those "extremist groups". Until then, they aren't really "extreme".
Bigoted? Uhhhh - possibly. But, don't try to disguise the bigotry of all the other groups in the world. Much of Islam hates the United States, and many Imams are happy to declare fatwas against the US and her allies for various reasons, such as silly cartoons. It seems to me that many, if not most, Moslems are just as much bigoted assholes as I am.
Due process? Well, enemies of the United States take full advantage of it, so why shouldn't a patriot? I'm all for due process. Take Major Hassan, for instance. I want him to get his day in court - in a military trial. I want him to be found guilty of dozens of charges. And, most of all, I want his hypocrisy made public. The man swore to serve the United States, then broke that oath. Funny thing is, he sees no hypocrisy. His Imams have taught him that it's alright to lie to the infidels, then to stab them in the back.
The religion of peace, LOL They are just as peaceful as the crusaders from Europe, centuries ago.
Nope, not a History Channel fan here. I've read enough WW2 books to fill a small library, though. I'm perfectly aware that production for the war machine actually improved during the war. There are statistics available that show the more we bombed the cities, the more efficient they became.
All the same, Hitler threw away valuable strategic and tactical resources when he invaded Russia. Resources which could have decided the war differently in the end stages. From the wikipedia, "Operation Barbarossa's failure led to Hitler's demands for further operations inside the USSR, all of which eventually failed,"
What were the TOTAL German casualties in Russia? How MIGHT the war have gone, had all those men and their supplies been spent on the eastern front, and in Africa? What MIGHT Erwin Rommel have accomplished with those resources?
Again, I insist, Hitler's decision to invade Russia ultimately destroyed the German war machine.
Quit while I'm ahead? Why? You're not making a lot of sense. How many divisions were destroyed in Russia in 1941? What were the total of German casualties in Russia in 1941?
Had Hitler NOT gone into Russia in 1941, there would have been no Lend/Lease, the Russians likely would never have declared war, and all those men and material would have been available for use against the Eastern Front.
The invasion of Russia marked the beginning of the end for Hitler. He wrecked a superb war machine in Russia, in 1941. It's that simple. Everything snowballed from that one fatal decision, codenamed "Operation Barbarossa".
No one claimed to be offended by the existence of the Shinto religion - except you. What I am offended by, is the establishment of the Emperor's official religion on a site where the Emperor authorized the murder of a couple thousand American citizens.
The fact that you are offended by the existence of religion in general has no bearing on the fact that we suffered a military defeat at Pearl, and that many people would object to a Japanese temple being erected on the site of that defeat.
No, I call BULLSHIT. Islam channels millions, if not billions, of dollars into terrorist organization worldwide. To pretend differently is at least as dishonest as anything our own politicians pull off.
It is NOT a mere handful of extremists. There are well funded operations on every inhabited continent, as well as dozens of islands around the world. You don't get away with characterizing Moslem radicals as a "handful of extremists". BULLSHIT. There is a war going on between the west and Islam, and the greater part of Islam supports those "extremists".
"And which central Islamic authority exists that has control over these extremists?"
Funny you should ask. Everyone in the world of Islam is laughing at us, trying to fight those extremists, while avoiding any offense directed at the governments that rule the nations. Saudi Arabia, for instance, is a hotbed of terrorism. The House of Saud is targeted by those terrorists every year. They manage to keep "control", barely.
Central authority? Start dragging Imams out and shooting them in the neck, every time they proclaim a Fatwa against a non-Moslem. It hardly matters how highly placed the Imam is. If they preach war against me and my family, they are deserving of a bullet - nothing more, and nothing less. We don't NEED a central authority to deal with, since they don't need a central authority to plan all their myriad of terrorist operations.
"Then he will be punished to the full extent of the law."
Yeah, maybe. He will, of course, have a legal defense fund, to which I will contribute. Due process, and all of that.
Lend/lease was signed in 1941. Hitler wrecked his war machine in 1941. Lend/lease wasn't in full swing til at least the spring of 1942. And, that's being generous.
Sorry, but we Americans had little to do with that first winter. The Russians didn't beat Hitler during that first year, either. It was all they could do just to halt the advance of a weakened German army on the outskirts of the capital. The German army found themselves battling little more than the Russian winter. And, they lost.
Then, I might point out that blowing up a mosque might offend you, but unless you are standing in the mosque, it hardly harms you.
Let's stop quibbling here. Much of Islam is at war against the United States. Much of Islam slyly supports Al Queda and other militant groups that claim to represent Islam. Allowing a Mosque at Ground Zero would be the equivalent of allowing the Emperor of Japan to plant his Rising Sun flag on the USS Arizon monument.
There will be no mosque at Ground Zero, unless and until Islam takes control of those extremists that claim to act for Islam. Some redneck will be around to destroy any mosque. Care to make a wager?
Facetious posts doesn't really carry here in print, much like sarcasm. But, I was only partly being facetious. Germany wrecked their military machine against the Russians, before the Lend/Lease really got going. The Russian winter is an unbeatable opponent, as other invading forces have learned.
Preventing a Shinto temple at Pearl Harbor wouldn't be an infringement on the first Amendment. The Shinto can have their temple, almost anywhere, so long as it doesn't offend the families of the men and women who were murdered at Pearl Harbor. The freedom of religion does not include freedom to offend other people with your religion. (I wish the court system would teach that lesson to the fruitcakes from that Westboro Baptist "church".)
Ditto a Mosque at Ground Zero.
And, BTW - my dad served in the Pacific. He was shipped home in a basket, and spent more than a year in the hospital before he learned how to walk and to take care of himself again.
"The Soviet Union would not have been able to defeat Germany without logistical support from the US and UK."
Oh - I don't know about that. All Russia needed to do was wait for the idiots in Germany to launch a couple more winter campaigns against Moscow. I don't mean to minimize the suffering of the Russian people in WW2 - but the Germans actually beat themselves when they sent their troops into the far north, wearing summer uniforms, no food, weapons that weren't designed for the bitter cold, etc ad nauseum.
But, more to the point - I hate when my fellow Americans take the attitude that we won the war after Europe lost it. Those people forget that we actually helped to enable Hitler in his earlier years. How 'bout those IBM contracts, that helped to chart all those Jew's geneology? They made extermination so much more efficient, didn't they?
No - we don't get to just beat our chests, and forget about our evil deeds.
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Exactly. And, if you grab a random group of American working people today, they STILL think that Iraq was part of Al Queda's Grand Conspiracy to destroy America. A bunch of them still think that Saddam was building nuclear weapons in his spare time, and almost all of them believe that he had stockpiles of Anthrax and other NBC weapons ready to deploy.
Phht. The Bush/Cheney White House certainly knew what it was doing with the publicity angle. The public will never unlearn a truth, once they've learned it - no matter how false.
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"still waiting for them when the place blew up and sank."
Don't you just HATE when that happens? And, who knows WHERE the hell the post office actually sent the parts! Zimbabwe? Rhodesia? Pakistan? Someone in Atlantis may get our parts, instead of what they ordered, and sink THEIR boats!
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Always remember - you get what you pay for. You paid for marketing, bling, and glitz. That's what you got. If you wanted a telephone, you would have bought something without Microsoft on it.
So, let me try to get this straight. Microsoft is a bad company, because they don't provide free carbonated beverages? Damn.
I suppose you have lots of facts and figures to cite, showing just how many companies in the world DO supply free soda pop for their employees?
I don't drink much soda. I much prefer my caffeine to be hot, black, and sweet. Maybe I should take my company to court for not providing the coffee that I drink all day? Worse - I had to buy my own coffee pot! Oh - wait. The company does allow me free water to make the coffee with. Maybe I should shut up, while I'm ahead. They COULD make me buy my own bottled water to make coffee!
Actually - I'd be quite happy to see piracy increase by orders of magnitude. I hope it drives a bunch of US companies to bankruptcy.
Let's think a couple minutes. What exactly has fueled all the exporting of American jobs? Corporate greed. Outsourcing? Corporate greed. Copyright? Corporate greed. Corporations export jobs by the thousands, and tens of thousands - but they still want to be paid - for WHAT?
Screw 'em. Let them keep exporting jobs. And, they can export all those executive bonuses along with the jobs. Export all the profits that the shareholders are dreaming of. Export it all. I have absolutely no loyalty to any corporation, as they have no loyalty to American workers.
This has been going on for about 30 years now. I kept expecting things to reach an equilibrium. No equilibrium is visible on any horizon yet.
I'm waiting for the day that only the wealthier 25% of American can afford to buy cheap Chinese junk at Wal-Mart. RIAA and MPAA execs will be among that wealthier 25% - for awhile. Until the American people revolt, and put all those execs in line for firing squads or guillotines.
Legalizing alcohol didn't create more alcoholics. To support your position, you would have to find statistics showing that the use and abuse of alcohol became significantly more widespread after prohibition was repealed.
But, your take on depriving drug gangs of revenue is accurate. Every dollar's worth of pot that remains unregulated and untaxed is a dollar's worth of pot that the cartels profit from. It's time to change that.
Actually, no state can "afford" to incarcerate all the users. Counties are building more and bigger jails, and states are building additions to prisons, and there is still a shortage of space in which to put prisoners. The Feds can't afford to lock up all the pot smokers, any more than the states can.
It's far past time to end prohibition. One of the first lessons a good leader learns is to NEVER issue an order that won't be obeyed. Our federal government has failed at leadership.
You are correct. Islam is not a country. It is an empire, ruled by a Caliph. The people of Islam await the Caliph, much as Christianity awaits the return of Christ, or as Judaism awaits the Messiah. The Empire still exists, but the Emperor doesn't occupy his throne. I'm not sure just how good the Wikipedia is on the subject, but take a look:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_empire
You may be surprised, but I have asked for exactly that sort of thing here, and on several other forums. You, Sir, are the first to point me to what I have asked for.
Now, I need to digest it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
So far, I've seen no mention of the size of L1, L2, or L3 caches, or the bandwidth of channels for memory, or anything else.
I want to know a LOT MORE than just the speed of those CPU's. If the cores have poorly implemented hyperthreading in comparison to the quad, they don't stand a chance.
I THOUGHT you were female. I said the argument is over - but you'll have the last word, no matter what. Go for it. Make one more post. ROFLMAO
Rule of law and the free practice of religion have little to do with a religion that has set itself up as the enemy of my nation. You've failed to take my challenge, and you can't show me any list of Imams who are tolerant to Western ideals, and intolerant to the "extremists". I insist that the "extremists" aren't extreme at all. They are ACCEPTED by mainstream Islam. Accepted and supported with donations arriving every day, from common people in every city in Islam.
The use of violence against places of worship? Funny that you mention that. How many cowardly bastard jihadists hide in those precious places of worship? Do the imams kick those armed soldiers out of their places of worship? Nope. The imams welcome the jihadists. Don't give me that nonsense about places of worship.
I'm finished here. I may not have "won" this discussion, but you have most certainly lost it. You've repeatedly resorted to calling names, and judging me with various descriptions such as this most recent "un-American" post.
You want to open this "bigot's" mind? Find me a list of imams who support the United States of America, and the freedoms that we enjoy. I challenge. Put your money where your mouth is.
What I see in this world, are a bunch of Moslem bigots who are waiting for the downfall of Israel and the United States, along with most of the rest of Western civilization. What I see are a billion Moslems waiting for that Sultan to rule the world under Sharia law. What I see, are educated women being punished around the world for having an education.
Show me that I am wrong. Show me that the majority of Moslems love the infidels just the way they are.
Perhaps you would like to quote parts of the Quran to me? The passages where the prophet tells his followers that it's alright to lie to an infidel, to cheat an infidel, to take an infidel's wives? The Quran is filled with more violence than the Christian's bible - both the old and the new testaments. Violence, deception, and rationalizations.
Bigotry? Yeah, maybe I'm the bigot here - and maybe you are. At least I'm intelligent enough to see that Islam is at odds with almost everything that the West stands for. If that makes me a bigot, so be it. But, you can admit your own bigotry, thank you.
I'm pretty damned sure that relatively few of them stand for anything compatible with life in the United States. As I said - when the Imams in a dozen capitals and holy cities start issuing fatwas AGAINST the extremists - then we can talk.
Compare the silence of the Imams with the noises coming from the Vatican, regarding child molestation. The Vatican doesn't do nearly enough to find or to punish priests who sexually abuse children - but at least they make a few noises that sound like they condemn child molesters. The Imams? They don't even make noises. If anything, they support those "extremists".
Did you see the welcome that the Lockerbie bomber dude got when he was released from Scotland? It was a hero's welcome. "Welcome home, Hero! We're so proud that you killed a plane load of western infidels! And, we're even more proud that you made fools of their judicial people! Welcome again, HERO!"
When the twin towers came tumbling down, there wasn't a "small minority" of people dancing in the streets, rejoicing. Do you need me to link you to some Youtube videos? As for the rest of the world's religions - where have I defended them in this discussion? I've always condemned the Catholic Church for their crusades, for their inquisitions, and for various lesser evils. I've also condemned Protestantism for their fanatical support of Zionism. I've condemned the Zionists for their injustices in Palestine. I've never said much bad about Judaism, aside from the Zionists. Other religions are outside of my experience and knowledge - so you won't find me condemning or defending them.
And, yes, someone blowing up a mosque being built at Ground Zero would rank among the patriots with me.
As I said - when Islam gets their act together, and takes control of all those "extremist groups" that claim to speak for Islam, THEN we might discuss the erection of a mosque near the site of the Twin Towers. As long as Islam funnels money to all those "extremist groups" to keep them in operation, no, we don't need any mosque on hallowed ground.
I want to hear Imams from Mecca to Teheran to Jerusalem declaring fatwas against those "extremist groups". Until then, they aren't really "extreme".
Yes, I am an asshole.
Bigoted? Uhhhh - possibly. But, don't try to disguise the bigotry of all the other groups in the world. Much of Islam hates the United States, and many Imams are happy to declare fatwas against the US and her allies for various reasons, such as silly cartoons. It seems to me that many, if not most, Moslems are just as much bigoted assholes as I am.
Due process? Well, enemies of the United States take full advantage of it, so why shouldn't a patriot? I'm all for due process. Take Major Hassan, for instance. I want him to get his day in court - in a military trial. I want him to be found guilty of dozens of charges. And, most of all, I want his hypocrisy made public. The man swore to serve the United States, then broke that oath. Funny thing is, he sees no hypocrisy. His Imams have taught him that it's alright to lie to the infidels, then to stab them in the back.
The religion of peace, LOL They are just as peaceful as the crusaders from Europe, centuries ago.
Nope, not a History Channel fan here. I've read enough WW2 books to fill a small library, though. I'm perfectly aware that production for the war machine actually improved during the war. There are statistics available that show the more we bombed the cities, the more efficient they became.
All the same, Hitler threw away valuable strategic and tactical resources when he invaded Russia. Resources which could have decided the war differently in the end stages. From the wikipedia, "Operation Barbarossa's failure led to Hitler's demands for further operations inside the USSR, all of which eventually failed,"
What were the TOTAL German casualties in Russia? How MIGHT the war have gone, had all those men and their supplies been spent on the eastern front, and in Africa? What MIGHT Erwin Rommel have accomplished with those resources?
Again, I insist, Hitler's decision to invade Russia ultimately destroyed the German war machine.
Quit while I'm ahead? Why? You're not making a lot of sense. How many divisions were destroyed in Russia in 1941? What were the total of German casualties in Russia in 1941?
Had Hitler NOT gone into Russia in 1941, there would have been no Lend/Lease, the Russians likely would never have declared war, and all those men and material would have been available for use against the Eastern Front.
The invasion of Russia marked the beginning of the end for Hitler. He wrecked a superb war machine in Russia, in 1941. It's that simple. Everything snowballed from that one fatal decision, codenamed "Operation Barbarossa".
No one claimed to be offended by the existence of the Shinto religion - except you. What I am offended by, is the establishment of the Emperor's official religion on a site where the Emperor authorized the murder of a couple thousand American citizens.
The fact that you are offended by the existence of religion in general has no bearing on the fact that we suffered a military defeat at Pearl, and that many people would object to a Japanese temple being erected on the site of that defeat.
No, I call BULLSHIT. Islam channels millions, if not billions, of dollars into terrorist organization worldwide. To pretend differently is at least as dishonest as anything our own politicians pull off.
It is NOT a mere handful of extremists. There are well funded operations on every inhabited continent, as well as dozens of islands around the world. You don't get away with characterizing Moslem radicals as a "handful of extremists". BULLSHIT. There is a war going on between the west and Islam, and the greater part of Islam supports those "extremists".
"And which central Islamic authority exists that has control over these extremists?"
Funny you should ask. Everyone in the world of Islam is laughing at us, trying to fight those extremists, while avoiding any offense directed at the governments that rule the nations. Saudi Arabia, for instance, is a hotbed of terrorism. The House of Saud is targeted by those terrorists every year. They manage to keep "control", barely.
Central authority? Start dragging Imams out and shooting them in the neck, every time they proclaim a Fatwa against a non-Moslem. It hardly matters how highly placed the Imam is. If they preach war against me and my family, they are deserving of a bullet - nothing more, and nothing less. We don't NEED a central authority to deal with, since they don't need a central authority to plan all their myriad of terrorist operations.
"Then he will be punished to the full extent of the law."
Yeah, maybe. He will, of course, have a legal defense fund, to which I will contribute. Due process, and all of that.
Lend/lease was signed in 1941. Hitler wrecked his war machine in 1941. Lend/lease wasn't in full swing til at least the spring of 1942. And, that's being generous.
Sorry, but we Americans had little to do with that first winter. The Russians didn't beat Hitler during that first year, either. It was all they could do just to halt the advance of a weakened German army on the outskirts of the capital. The German army found themselves battling little more than the Russian winter. And, they lost.
Never underestimate Mother Nature.
Then, I might point out that blowing up a mosque might offend you, but unless you are standing in the mosque, it hardly harms you.
Let's stop quibbling here. Much of Islam is at war against the United States. Much of Islam slyly supports Al Queda and other militant groups that claim to represent Islam. Allowing a Mosque at Ground Zero would be the equivalent of allowing the Emperor of Japan to plant his Rising Sun flag on the USS Arizon monument.
There will be no mosque at Ground Zero, unless and until Islam takes control of those extremists that claim to act for Islam. Some redneck will be around to destroy any mosque. Care to make a wager?
Facetious posts doesn't really carry here in print, much like sarcasm. But, I was only partly being facetious. Germany wrecked their military machine against the Russians, before the Lend/Lease really got going. The Russian winter is an unbeatable opponent, as other invading forces have learned.
Preventing a Shinto temple at Pearl Harbor wouldn't be an infringement on the first Amendment. The Shinto can have their temple, almost anywhere, so long as it doesn't offend the families of the men and women who were murdered at Pearl Harbor. The freedom of religion does not include freedom to offend other people with your religion. (I wish the court system would teach that lesson to the fruitcakes from that Westboro Baptist "church".)
Ditto a Mosque at Ground Zero.
And, BTW - my dad served in the Pacific. He was shipped home in a basket, and spent more than a year in the hospital before he learned how to walk and to take care of himself again.
"The Soviet Union would not have been able to defeat Germany without logistical support from the US and UK."
Oh - I don't know about that. All Russia needed to do was wait for the idiots in Germany to launch a couple more winter campaigns against Moscow. I don't mean to minimize the suffering of the Russian people in WW2 - but the Germans actually beat themselves when they sent their troops into the far north, wearing summer uniforms, no food, weapons that weren't designed for the bitter cold, etc ad nauseum.
But, more to the point - I hate when my fellow Americans take the attitude that we won the war after Europe lost it. Those people forget that we actually helped to enable Hitler in his earlier years. How 'bout those IBM contracts, that helped to chart all those Jew's geneology? They made extermination so much more efficient, didn't they?
No - we don't get to just beat our chests, and forget about our evil deeds.
Exactly. And, if you grab a random group of American working people today, they STILL think that Iraq was part of Al Queda's Grand Conspiracy to destroy America. A bunch of them still think that Saddam was building nuclear weapons in his spare time, and almost all of them believe that he had stockpiles of Anthrax and other NBC weapons ready to deploy.
Phht. The Bush/Cheney White House certainly knew what it was doing with the publicity angle. The public will never unlearn a truth, once they've learned it - no matter how false.