Maybe it's just me, but "on the verge" sounds rather like "almost losing control". Believe me - a marine wouldn't lose control. He is a very controlled, very trained killing machine. He is only waiting for sufficient legal justification before actually going into action.;^)
"And sadly trespass requires setting foot on private property.And sadly trespass requires setting foot on private property."
Main Entry: 1trespass Pronunciation: \tres-ps, -pas\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English trespas, from Anglo-French, passage, overstepping, misdeed, from trespasser Date: 13th century
1 a : a violation of moral or social ethics : transgression; especially : sin b : an unwarranted infringement 2 a : an unlawful act committed on the person, property, or rights of another; especially : a wrongful entry on real property b : the legal action for injuries resulting from trespass
Over the years, I've read a number of stories, articles, and opinions. Once again, IANAL, but it is not necessary that a person actually step onto private property to be guilty of trespass. Depending on the specific wording of your local ordinances, you can charge the neighbor with trespass for playing his music loudly all night long.
When the fuck was it written into the constitution that some freak could come to YOUR MAMA'S FUNERAL to protest?
That's right, remove the word military in your own sentence.
"If people like Phelps cannot protest at FuckingNickName's mother's funeral any more, then America has lost"
I take it that if 30 people show up at your mother's funeral to protest her, and to declare that she is bound for hell, all very noise and obtrusive, that you'll still be cool with their right to protest?
"Some of these plants had computers still running on Windows NT 4.0 - because the SCADA system they used didn't work on any newer OS"
Guilty as charged. Yep. A hard drive died recently, and a machine that is worth half a million sits idle because of it. "Don't we have a disk image? I can get this thing running in a few hours, if I can run to the store for a hard drive!" "Disk image? What the hell is THAT?"
Phhht. No backup, in any form. And, this expensive machine sits idle due to the failure of a ~$50 component.
Fortunately, MOST of our equipment runs on Linux, and MOST of our equipment just runs and runs and runs.
You seem to have read AC's post differently than I did. He didn't suggest that you INSTALL an AV cocktail on your machines. He stated that a cocktail of security applications are necessary to deal with an infected machine. That Geek Squad disk is exactly that - a bootable disk with quite a variety of utilities, suitable for dealing with a wide variety of problems.
I can't remember offhand, but I think there are six different AV's on the disk, each of which automagically updates itself when the utility is called. And, each of those AV's is on the disk, because it has proven superior to any of the other in certain situations.
Your advice is sound, you just seem to have misinterpreted what AC said.
"(Some manufacturing plants or refineries have razor-thin margins - an extra 1% downtime could mean the difference between profit and bankruptcy.)"
I think you exaggerate. If not, then the executives and other decision makers are incompetent boobs, and the company SHOULD go bankrupt for hiring them.
I'm a maintenance man at a manufacturing plant. Our management is only marginally competent - but we have enough redundancy to see us through when something goes down. Sure, it HURTS when a computer dies, and the vendor won't honor the guarantee unless we send the computer back to the factory. But, bankruptcy? Come on . . . .
Good post. But, we differ on "And what good would that do? Isn't free speech protected in America? Or is it only agreed speech?" If Phelps and company stayed in their little church house, preached sermons, put their trash on the web, and wrote submissions for the various newspapers, I wouldn't detest them as much as I do. And, I would argue to defend their freedom of speech, as much as I disagree with them.
IMHO, they go beyond freedom of speech when they picket funerals. I see trespass. They are trespassing on a family's right to peacefully lay their son/daughter/husband/father/whatever to rest. There are times and places when any decent human being will bend over backwards to accomodate another human being. Personally, I've avoided funerals where people thought I should show up, because I had not one good word to say about the dead guy. It would take a low life to attend a funeral, just to tell everyone that the stiff if finally where he belongs.
This freedom of speech thing can be taken to far - as evidenced by the fact that shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater can get you sent to jail, or prison.
I believe the Westboro freaks have taken it way to far.
Well, I won't compare where I've been and what I've done with any Marine. But, I will say that I've been in two places where I was more than happy to see the Marines come ashore, and I've been in a couple of others where I WISHED the Marines would come ashore. Walking into that church or it's offices to do away with that particular group of douchebags wouldn't even compare, for "intestinal fortitude". MY PROBLEM would be the legal ramifications, very closely followed by the media circus.
Call me a coward, but I do not want to be on television for the next several months as "The madman who killed a bunch of religious nuts" or some similar title. The court? Only a fool wants to go through all that nonsense.
Slight correction. The asshats want you to get violent in a stupid way. They would be perfectly happy to suffer a few broken bones, and to bleed a little, if they were to SURVIVE to sue you.
American Gladiator? I guess you mean some stupid reality show. I've never seen it, don't want to see it. I can't imagine that there is a "reality" show worth watching, from the little I've seen and heard.
Real violence? Yeah, I guess I can cope with it. It's the idiocy AFTERWARDS that's hard to deal with. As disgusting as the Westboro people are, even the ACLU would come out in their defense after they were shot down. The NAACP and every gay rights group in America would be condemning the guy who put Phelps down. Talk about your media circus.
As casually as you dismiss a stranger's "intestinal fortitude" - I figure you must be a decorated marine or something. I'll keep that in mind as I read your future posts, Drinky dude.
I thought that I got away with that blunder. It sat there safely under the radar for days, then you come along and point it out. I think I resent that - just gimme your coordinates, and I'll send a space crowbar your way . . . .
Hmmm. I guess that some people might find the 2200+ numbering to be misleading. In my own experience, those numbers have seemed to be nearly right. I don't see it as fraudulent.
I'm sure you remember the days when the first Athlons came out. The wife bought one, that ran at 1 ghz, I think she had 128 MB of memory, could have been 256, but I think it was 128. That machine ran like a dog. The machine I was using at the time had an AMD 450 mhz overclocked to 500 - K6-III mobile chip. I could run circles aroung her 1 Ghz machine.
When she first got it, she was so jealous of it, I wasn't allowed to touch it. Finally, she relented, and allowed me to work on it. I added memory, and gave her a full gig of memory. Ripped out the version of Windows XP that Compaq sold her, along with all the malware and crapware, and installed a pirated version, then got to work tweaking Windows to run fast. When I was finished, she didn't believe that it was the same computer. She actually accused me of replacing the motherboard and CPU!
My point? I've made it before in other discussions. Speed isn't nearly so important as PERCEPTION. No one who reads slashdot will believe for an intant that my K6 chip was outperforming an Athlon - but is SEEMED that way, because I never had to wait for diskswapping or much of anything else.
Back to the Ghz+ numbering system. I'm a believer in it. Everything that I've ever used with that silly + sign attached to it ran very nearly what it claimed to run. But, as always, YMMV, and you may have just bought a lemon of a chip.
I won't argue law - but I'll argue morality. Intel has been in the news often, being accused of various unfair business practices. People who own Intel stock now have had all the same opportunity to see that news as I have. They SHOULD HAVE been paying attention. They SHOULD HAVE thought something like, "You know, where there's smoke, there is probably a fire. I don't know how honest Intel is, and I don't want to be burnt when I find that they are dishonest."
If I invest in a munitions manufacturer, and suddenly, the entire world bans munitions, I can't claim it's unfair that I've lost my investment. You take your chances, you pay your dues, learn from your mistakes, and move on.
"(I personally put my money where my mouth is and pretty much build and sell AMD exclusively now)"
Ditto. I've never bought a new intel chip. Back in the day, I bought some used computers that were intel, starting with a 386. I replaced a couple of Intel chips with some off-brand (Green something ring any bells? I really can't remember the brand name now) that ran some faster. EVERYTHING that I've ever bought or built new was AMD. These days, I'm rather picky, and use Opteron chips exclusively.
Bang for the buck? AMD chips are unlocked. Overclocking? Go for it. Virtualization? Ditto. There are no hidden features on AMD chips, for which you have to pay extra. Granted, if you buy a bottom of the bin chip, and you try to overclock it, you're nuts - it is bottom of the bin because it failed one or more QC checks. You're not going to get top performance out of a discounted chip that was known to have failed tests. But, every feature that AMD offers is available and unlocked in every chip they make.
I hate the fact that corporations will throw Grandma, Cousin Susie, and her baby kitty under the bus for profit. All the same, corporations serve society. Without greedy, profit driven investors and company officers, where would we be today? I don't exactly like where we are right now, but it's better than living like feudal Europe, IMHO
In short, lighten up a little bit. Instead of public executions, let's just put all those bastards into Chinese sweat shops, working for ten dollars a day for the rest of their lives.
IF this were a civil suit by AMD, claiming that they were damaged by Intel and Dell, and they wanted to recover damages caused by these irregular accounting practices, THEN the time and resources would be invested to determine how much damage had been caused.
In which case, AMD would probably recover those damages, plus a punitive award.
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A FRIGGING LAWYER!!!!
All the same, I'd love to hear about AMD filing suit against Dell and Intel.
Uhhhh - troll is trolling, but there is something of a serious question in the troll.
There really IS a big difference in the two statements. There is really no way to measure the damage caused by Dell's actions. If there is a way to measure the damages to AMD as well as the public, it would be a long, involved process that no one wants to invest the time and resources in.
However, it's pretty easy to analyze how much of Dell's profits resulted from this dishonesty.
Personally, I think the fine should be ALL of the ill-gotten profits. If they benefit by ten million, take that ten million, plus a punitive fine. If they profit by 100 million, take that 100 million, plus a punitive fine.
Sorry for feeding the troll, but I thought some reasonable people might need the distinction drawn for them.
As already pointed out - NO ONE puts ads on their site for any reason other than to generate money. Not slashdot, not Google, not even Microsoft. There is one reason, and one reason only, that 99.99999% of people advertise anything - to make money.
That odd person in however many only advertises a couple of items, which he really believes in. Like me with Linux. I advertise it, but I don't make a cent. I advertise it because I believe in it, and I want more people to be exposed to it, and to give it a try.
Take another look at spy swaps. It isn't the spy swap that is important. It is the surrounding political scene. The spy swapping people are making a point, or they are gaining something else. The spies are pretty much unimportant, in and of themselves. Pawns in a massive chess game. A really important spy is still little more than a pawn.
This most recent spy swap still has me baffled, because I can't see who gained what. It looks like both sides have egg on their faces. But, one or both sides gained SOMETHING from the swap.
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Maybe it's just me, but "on the verge" sounds rather like "almost losing control". Believe me - a marine wouldn't lose control. He is a very controlled, very trained killing machine. He is only waiting for sufficient legal justification before actually going into action. ;^)
"And sadly trespass requires setting foot on private property.And sadly trespass requires setting foot on private property."
Main Entry: 1trespass
Pronunciation: \tres-ps, -pas\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English trespas, from Anglo-French, passage, overstepping, misdeed, from trespasser
Date: 13th century
1 a : a violation of moral or social ethics : transgression; especially : sin b : an unwarranted infringement
2 a : an unlawful act committed on the person, property, or rights of another; especially : a wrongful entry on real property b : the legal action for injuries resulting from trespass
Over the years, I've read a number of stories, articles, and opinions. Once again, IANAL, but it is not necessary that a person actually step onto private property to be guilty of trespass. Depending on the specific wording of your local ordinances, you can charge the neighbor with trespass for playing his music loudly all night long.
When the fuck was it written into the constitution that some freak could come to YOUR MAMA'S FUNERAL to protest?
That's right, remove the word military in your own sentence.
"If people like Phelps cannot protest at FuckingNickName's mother's funeral any more, then America has lost"
I take it that if 30 people show up at your mother's funeral to protest her, and to declare that she is bound for hell, all very noise and obtrusive, that you'll still be cool with their right to protest?
"Some of these plants had computers still running on Windows NT 4.0 - because the SCADA system they used didn't work on any newer OS"
Guilty as charged. Yep. A hard drive died recently, and a machine that is worth half a million sits idle because of it. "Don't we have a disk image? I can get this thing running in a few hours, if I can run to the store for a hard drive!" "Disk image? What the hell is THAT?"
Phhht. No backup, in any form. And, this expensive machine sits idle due to the failure of a ~$50 component.
Fortunately, MOST of our equipment runs on Linux, and MOST of our equipment just runs and runs and runs.
You seem to have read AC's post differently than I did. He didn't suggest that you INSTALL an AV cocktail on your machines. He stated that a cocktail of security applications are necessary to deal with an infected machine. That Geek Squad disk is exactly that - a bootable disk with quite a variety of utilities, suitable for dealing with a wide variety of problems.
I can't remember offhand, but I think there are six different AV's on the disk, each of which automagically updates itself when the utility is called. And, each of those AV's is on the disk, because it has proven superior to any of the other in certain situations.
Your advice is sound, you just seem to have misinterpreted what AC said.
"(Some manufacturing plants or refineries have razor-thin margins - an extra 1% downtime could mean the difference between profit and bankruptcy.)"
I think you exaggerate. If not, then the executives and other decision makers are incompetent boobs, and the company SHOULD go bankrupt for hiring them.
I'm a maintenance man at a manufacturing plant. Our management is only marginally competent - but we have enough redundancy to see us through when something goes down. Sure, it HURTS when a computer dies, and the vendor won't honor the guarantee unless we send the computer back to the factory. But, bankruptcy? Come on . . . .
Good post. But, we differ on "And what good would that do? Isn't free speech protected in America? Or is it only agreed speech?" If Phelps and company stayed in their little church house, preached sermons, put their trash on the web, and wrote submissions for the various newspapers, I wouldn't detest them as much as I do. And, I would argue to defend their freedom of speech, as much as I disagree with them.
IMHO, they go beyond freedom of speech when they picket funerals. I see trespass. They are trespassing on a family's right to peacefully lay their son/daughter/husband/father/whatever to rest. There are times and places when any decent human being will bend over backwards to accomodate another human being. Personally, I've avoided funerals where people thought I should show up, because I had not one good word to say about the dead guy. It would take a low life to attend a funeral, just to tell everyone that the stiff if finally where he belongs.
This freedom of speech thing can be taken to far - as evidenced by the fact that shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater can get you sent to jail, or prison.
I believe the Westboro freaks have taken it way to far.
Well, I won't compare where I've been and what I've done with any Marine. But, I will say that I've been in two places where I was more than happy to see the Marines come ashore, and I've been in a couple of others where I WISHED the Marines would come ashore. Walking into that church or it's offices to do away with that particular group of douchebags wouldn't even compare, for "intestinal fortitude". MY PROBLEM would be the legal ramifications, very closely followed by the media circus.
Call me a coward, but I do not want to be on television for the next several months as "The madman who killed a bunch of religious nuts" or some similar title. The court? Only a fool wants to go through all that nonsense.
Slight correction. The asshats want you to get violent in a stupid way. They would be perfectly happy to suffer a few broken bones, and to bleed a little, if they were to SURVIVE to sue you.
Dead men tell no tales, nor do they file suits.
American Gladiator? I guess you mean some stupid reality show. I've never seen it, don't want to see it. I can't imagine that there is a "reality" show worth watching, from the little I've seen and heard.
Real violence? Yeah, I guess I can cope with it. It's the idiocy AFTERWARDS that's hard to deal with. As disgusting as the Westboro people are, even the ACLU would come out in their defense after they were shot down. The NAACP and every gay rights group in America would be condemning the guy who put Phelps down. Talk about your media circus.
As casually as you dismiss a stranger's "intestinal fortitude" - I figure you must be a decorated marine or something. I'll keep that in mind as I read your future posts, Drinky dude.
This shouldn't even be a story. Not even on idle.
Fred Phelps and his followers should be dragged out behind the barn, and put out of everyone's misery.
People claim that violence has never solved anything - but a good, solid dose lead in his ear would solve all of Phelp's problems.
I thought that I got away with that blunder. It sat there safely under the radar for days, then you come along and point it out. I think I resent that - just gimme your coordinates, and I'll send a space crowbar your way . . . .
Hmmm. I guess that some people might find the 2200+ numbering to be misleading. In my own experience, those numbers have seemed to be nearly right. I don't see it as fraudulent.
I'm sure you remember the days when the first Athlons came out. The wife bought one, that ran at 1 ghz, I think she had 128 MB of memory, could have been 256, but I think it was 128. That machine ran like a dog. The machine I was using at the time had an AMD 450 mhz overclocked to 500 - K6-III mobile chip. I could run circles aroung her 1 Ghz machine.
When she first got it, she was so jealous of it, I wasn't allowed to touch it. Finally, she relented, and allowed me to work on it. I added memory, and gave her a full gig of memory. Ripped out the version of Windows XP that Compaq sold her, along with all the malware and crapware, and installed a pirated version, then got to work tweaking Windows to run fast. When I was finished, she didn't believe that it was the same computer. She actually accused me of replacing the motherboard and CPU!
My point? I've made it before in other discussions. Speed isn't nearly so important as PERCEPTION. No one who reads slashdot will believe for an intant that my K6 chip was outperforming an Athlon - but is SEEMED that way, because I never had to wait for diskswapping or much of anything else.
Back to the Ghz+ numbering system. I'm a believer in it. Everything that I've ever used with that silly + sign attached to it ran very nearly what it claimed to run. But, as always, YMMV, and you may have just bought a lemon of a chip.
I sort of missed that, but the other three cores still had full functionality, right? They had one core that failed, so they "locked" it out?
I won't argue law - but I'll argue morality. Intel has been in the news often, being accused of various unfair business practices. People who own Intel stock now have had all the same opportunity to see that news as I have. They SHOULD HAVE been paying attention. They SHOULD HAVE thought something like, "You know, where there's smoke, there is probably a fire. I don't know how honest Intel is, and I don't want to be burnt when I find that they are dishonest."
If I invest in a munitions manufacturer, and suddenly, the entire world bans munitions, I can't claim it's unfair that I've lost my investment. You take your chances, you pay your dues, learn from your mistakes, and move on.
"(I personally put my money where my mouth is and pretty much build and sell AMD exclusively now)"
Ditto. I've never bought a new intel chip. Back in the day, I bought some used computers that were intel, starting with a 386. I replaced a couple of Intel chips with some off-brand (Green something ring any bells? I really can't remember the brand name now) that ran some faster. EVERYTHING that I've ever bought or built new was AMD. These days, I'm rather picky, and use Opteron chips exclusively.
Bang for the buck? AMD chips are unlocked. Overclocking? Go for it. Virtualization? Ditto. There are no hidden features on AMD chips, for which you have to pay extra. Granted, if you buy a bottom of the bin chip, and you try to overclock it, you're nuts - it is bottom of the bin because it failed one or more QC checks. You're not going to get top performance out of a discounted chip that was known to have failed tests. But, every feature that AMD offers is available and unlocked in every chip they make.
I seem to recall an old government re-education drive.
"This is your brain."
Egg cracks, drops into frying pan, and sizzles.
"This is your brain on patent."
Oh - wait. Wearing a tin foil hat changes the sound of your voice? Ooooohhh! I love it. Gotta get one before I make my next crank call!
Balance, my young Jedi knight.
I hate the fact that corporations will throw Grandma, Cousin Susie, and her baby kitty under the bus for profit. All the same, corporations serve society. Without greedy, profit driven investors and company officers, where would we be today? I don't exactly like where we are right now, but it's better than living like feudal Europe, IMHO
In short, lighten up a little bit. Instead of public executions, let's just put all those bastards into Chinese sweat shops, working for ten dollars a day for the rest of their lives.
Actually - I'm a bit wrong in my own post.
IF this were a civil suit by AMD, claiming that they were damaged by Intel and Dell, and they wanted to recover damages caused by these irregular accounting practices, THEN the time and resources would be invested to determine how much damage had been caused.
In which case, AMD would probably recover those damages, plus a punitive award.
DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A FRIGGING LAWYER!!!!
All the same, I'd love to hear about AMD filing suit against Dell and Intel.
Uhhhh - troll is trolling, but there is something of a serious question in the troll.
There really IS a big difference in the two statements. There is really no way to measure the damage caused by Dell's actions. If there is a way to measure the damages to AMD as well as the public, it would be a long, involved process that no one wants to invest the time and resources in.
However, it's pretty easy to analyze how much of Dell's profits resulted from this dishonesty.
Personally, I think the fine should be ALL of the ill-gotten profits. If they benefit by ten million, take that ten million, plus a punitive fine. If they profit by 100 million, take that 100 million, plus a punitive fine.
Sorry for feeding the troll, but I thought some reasonable people might need the distinction drawn for them.
As already pointed out - NO ONE puts ads on their site for any reason other than to generate money. Not slashdot, not Google, not even Microsoft. There is one reason, and one reason only, that 99.99999% of people advertise anything - to make money.
That odd person in however many only advertises a couple of items, which he really believes in. Like me with Linux. I advertise it, but I don't make a cent. I advertise it because I believe in it, and I want more people to be exposed to it, and to give it a try.
The decimal point.
"That would be $4.50 for the author and $99 for amazon."
As I say, I hate pedantic asses, but I had to give you a little bit of a hard time, LOL
Take another look at spy swaps. It isn't the spy swap that is important. It is the surrounding political scene. The spy swapping people are making a point, or they are gaining something else. The spies are pretty much unimportant, in and of themselves. Pawns in a massive chess game. A really important spy is still little more than a pawn.
This most recent spy swap still has me baffled, because I can't see who gained what. It looks like both sides have egg on their faces. But, one or both sides gained SOMETHING from the swap.
I hate grammar nazis and pedantic asses - but check your math. I think your fingers got ahead of your brain, lol