Or, maybe the group think starts when young people get hungry, so they go bargain with "the man" for a job, so they can eat. Helluva thing, huh? They use your greed and hunger to coerce you to do their work, and eventually you start thinking like them. It's the hippies who really "think outside the box".
I loaded the page in firefox, just to be told that FF required 400MB of memory in order to render the page. I checked. FF was using 179 MB of memory, with three windows open, and a total of 11 tabs.
Out of curiosity, I loaded the page in IE8. 176 MB of memory, with only that one page open. Google Chrome? 53 MB. Safari isn't installed on this virtual machine, I'll probably test it later.
I'm not a mathematical genius, but the troll's claims don't seem to add up.
Actually, it would include a LOT of different crimes:
Genocide (wiping out a whole village of people) Violating human rights Conspiracy to commit murder Conspiracy to violate human rights Conspiracy tampering with witnesses Conspiracy, obstruction of justice Almost certainly multiple counts of unlawful imprisonment and/or kidnapping Illegal use of weapons (probably firearms, possibly explosives) not to mention, the rather minor censorship (in comparison) thing
The prosecutors may or may not ever get around to any question of censorship, but hey, remember, that was my whole reason for wiping out the village. To prevent my sensitive information being spread around.
If one prissy librarian with a puritan attitude takes books that she disapproves of, and burns them to prevent people reading them, THAT is censorship. The government doesn't have to approve of her actions for her actions to qualify as censorship.
"Censorship is when a government stops a person or organization from disseminating information"
The Mafia, among other organizations, would thank you for this definition. Executing an entire family, or even an entire village, to prevent the dissemination of sensitive information wouldn't be considered "censorship", unless the government assisted in the executions. Thank you, sir.
"Most likely, if we find a new crystal on another planet it will be none of those things."
Until we discover it, we can't even speculate what it is, or what it isn't. Let's get off our asses and discover it!
"Maybe, but it would be nice if more people understood that science is more complex than
1) Research. 2) ??? 3) PROFIT!"
I, for one, haven't made that mistake. However, I have profit in mind. People should have the opportunity to profit from discoveries. Whatever might be discovered on Mars will profit no one, if it can't be picked up and used, unless we just assume that those discoveries can be duplicated on earth.
"If all this speculation leads to the invention of ways to detect and destroy or change the course of such comets,"
How do we improve the chances of detecting those comets? By putting people and sensors closer to the potential threat, of course. The most sensitive sensor on earth can't hold a candle to people and sensors scattered around the solar system.
"I think limiting science"
Nowhere do I propose that we limit scientific research. Instead, I state that research stations are alright - but they are not enough. The government can invest billions in research, and refuse to risk a single human life in the pursuit of that research. But, far more people are likely to invest voluntarily into something like SpaceX. They seem to be interested in MAKING USE OF space, and whatever might be discovered up there.
I've said this elsewhere, I'll repeat it here. If Mary Kay cosmetics announced to the world that moon dust was a major component of a new age defying lotion, and offered convincing propaganda to the women of the world, then within a couple of years, we would see ships going to the moon to collect dust. And, it doesn't even matter whether the stuff works or not, all that is required is that women THINK it works!
Me? I just want to drive the damned truck up there to get the dust. I want to sit looking out over the moonscape while I eat lunch. If I make enough trips, catering to women's vanity, maybe I can afford to buy a crater to settle down in. This is life outside the laboratory.
"its not our wars that create our enemies its our support for repressive regimes."
Question is - how do we convince the money grubbers who actually run Washington of that? I'm quite tired of seeing blood spilled to "protect American interests", which invariably translates to "influential wealty American's financial interests".
"it seems to me if you put a smart and independent thinking person through the military's recruit-crusher, you're either going to get a non-independent-thinking person, a smart and independent thinking person who has been faking non-independent thinking and hates the military for it, or a corpse."
And, may I ask how many years you served, and in what branch?
In my 8 years of service, I was never made aware that I should think some sort of "group think". In fact, those people who were advanced most rapidly generally though "outside the box". My own meritorious advancement to E-5 was a result of having both balls and brains. (lest anyone asks, I never had brawn - just plenty of balls) That is to say, I saw the situation differently than my leaders, and I took some initiative to accomplish the mission.
The day the military begins hammering independent thought out of men's heads, the military will most definitely fail.
To be perfectly honest, your statement is pretty insulting to veterans. It suggests that men and women who complete one or more tours of duty successfully are either mindless puppets, or dishonest people. If that is what you really mean, then maybe you should look around you. Wherever you live, there are good men and women around you who are veterans and are very successful. Maybe your boss? Maybe HIS boss?
It's just fine for the government to aim at scientific achievements. Nothing wrong with that. But, the PURPOSE of exploration is to find homes, resources, and work for PEOPLE.
They want to stick permanent research stations (manned or otherwise) at the lagrange points? Cool. Put them up there, put beacons on them, so that real people who are pursuing real life don't run them over. Real life is much much more than just looking at stuff, and figuring out how it works. Real life means USING stuff. If NASA discovers a new crystal on Mars, something that man has never seen before, neither Joe Sixpack nor Aviator Alex is going to give a damn that science has learned something new. Both want to know how they can USE IT! Does it make a super cutting tool? Does it make the greatest lens ever imagined? Maybe it's a superconductor at room temperature, and it can be used in electronics? The best insulating material man has ever seen? If so, then someone is going to pay for transportation to go GET some of the stuff, so he can sell it to people!!
There is nothing wrong with science, but science isn't a goal, in and of itself. Science is a means to an end - the end being, to improve human life.
Sitting around on the earth, and speculating about if and when a moon sized comet might strike the earth certainly doesn't improve human life, or the chances of humanity's survival.
So, you compare family to business arrangements. I see. "I now pronounce you Microsuck and Microsuckee! You may suck the Micro!"
Spectators say, "It's a monopoly made in hell."
Odd, my wife has never eaten another wife in an acquisition, nor have I ever taken another husband to court to have him liquidated. Have we been missing something? Maybe we can spice our lives up a little bit, huh?
"consume 5 times less power, and be 10 times cheaper"
This stupidity is worse than any double negative. Do people who write this kind of stuff ever graduate from the 6th grade? Well - wait - to be honest, I've know several old timers who never went to school at all, and they never used language like this. Should I conclude that this is the language of total morons, then?
Phhhht.
Someone give the guy a clue. If he insists on posting on slashdot, he should post in some language other than English. That nonsense MIGHT actually make sense if written in Sanskrit, or Yiddish.
Actually - no, it isn't true. Granted, your statement is partly true, today, and will remain partly true for all of our lifetimes. Given about 50 to 100 years of EXPERIENCE in space, scientist won't be required for survival, in space, on the moon, or on Mars. Today and tomorrow, your survival will depend far more on technicians and "common sense" that it does on scientists. (note that today's "common sense" is likely to be very fatal in space - said sense will be learned by the first generation in space)
There is a problem with this logic. If I generate excess energy this month, and if my state requires the electric company to pay me for my energy, then I get a small check and/or credit toward next month's bill. Looking at that credit, I see that the electric company is paying me about half of what they charge me for electricity. Which means, of course, that they are making a profit by redistributing my electricity.
I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR MY SHARE OF MAINTENANCE!!
Yes, maintenance is an important consideration, but they are being paid for that maintenance by every person who pays the utility for electricity. It's all included in the rates approved by the state in which they operate.
This whole thing is just more dirty politics and greed.
Exclusivity agreements are evil. Simple as that. They were wrong when Microsoft was insisting on them, they are wrong for telecoms, they are wrong period, anytime, anywhere. The moment that any corporation can insist on an exclusive agreement, they are ALREADY a monopoly, and the government should deal with them as such.
The Revelation of Saint Slasher Dotter, chapter 12, verse 19, says, "Verily, in the deepest dungeons, there is a place reserved for grammar nazis. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, as the grus gnaw upon the bones of the grammar nazis for all time. Lo, there shall be no death, no resets or restarts for the grammar nazis, nor will there be relief for them in the lakes of fire. Beware, grammar nazi, or you shall feed the gru!"
I wish the parent hadn't been modded down. He makes a point that should be addressed.
I've lost data on every file system that I've ever used, including NTFS, and the highly touted ReiserFS. Nothing guarantees the security of your data. The nearest you can come to data security, is to backup, backup, and backup again. Those people and organizations that keep regular backups seldom lose data. However, even those people can lose data in the event of a physical disaster (fire, flood, theft, being hit by a humongous meteorite) which is why off-site backups are important.
That said - IMHO, a journaling file system is an important first step to data security. NTFS and Ext3 are about equal, in my experience. Turning off caching features is an important second step. A power outage before data is written to disk, and/or while data is being written results in corruption in all current file systems. The important thing is, if data is mission critical, you want it written IMMEDIATELY, not floating around in RAM.
And, finally, you NEED redundant backups. Anyone who fails to make backups WILL LOSE data, eventually.
Someone has little understanding of the GPL. Apple need not open source it's kernel in order to use a kernel module. Things might be simpler if MacOS were GPL'd, but the use of GPL'd code within the OS is quite possible. As someone else already points out, Microsoft makes use of GPL'd code.
Let us all get this straight. AC would reject any and all medical knowledge that resulted from experimentation by the Nazi's during the second world war. Going a step further, he might wish to have any medical knowledge gained by the allies during WW2 purged from human knowledge. After all, such knowledge is "tainted", because it was motivated by violence.
If it can't be patented and commercialized it can't be much good.
Don't anyone inform AC that there is no patent on his arse, or his reproductive organs. He'll be removing them as "junk".
Flamebait? ROFLMAO - when you reach my age, and you've watched a generation of kids grow from diapers to jail cells, then you come back and label my opinions as flamebait. Oh wait - I apologize, Mr. Moderator. I see who you are now. You're still living in YOUR mother's basement!!
Crap, I think I just broke my arm - I'm laughing so hard I fell off my chair!
Big fuckin' deal. Who writes games? Mostly adult white males. Does anyone suppose that an adult white male is going to sit and ponder how a juvenile latin female might thing and act in some given situation? Nope. He don't GIVE A SHIT. Now, if that juvenile latin female wants to go into the game writer's world, and contribute something, then he'll give a shit. If she understands the game engine, and how the graphics work, if she can actually contribute to the (mostly mindless) plot of the story, then he WILL give a shit.
You want this adult white female to attempt to create a juvenile latin female character? Great - he's feeling both magnanimous and sensitive, he's going to sit right down and create this character, and give her a leading part in the story. The character is going to be one of two things (maybe both at the same time, even). An over endowed little slut who wants nothing more than to bang the hero, OR an over endowed AND over muscled bull dyke who is as mindless and shallow as any female character has ever been.
Which is the better choice? The bit of fluff, or the hunk of meat?
Give everyone a break. If you want your group represented in games, or stories, or movies, or whatever the fuck, GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS AND REPRESENT!!! Stop sniveling, stop whining. (Lest anyone think that I'm picking on the young Sotomayors of the world, no, this goes for blacks, male and female, Asians, Arabs, and even fucking ESKIMOS! Oh, cool, a great game idea, "Mighty Quinn wreaks havoc in New York!"
While we wait for everyone to go do something useful, I'm intriqued by the idea of an adult male who appears to be white writing a novel from the perspective of a young Mexican girl. I just KNOW that everyone on slashdot will want to read it when I'm finished!! Quick, how do you say "pretty ponies" en Espanol?
Think about it. These are BLACKHAT awards. Who are blackhats? People who want to break into other people's computers. Who idolizes a blackhat? Script kiddies. Those blackhats who are not felons, are not criminals waiting to be convicted, or criminals waiting to be caught, are just juvenile asses trying to emulate the "bad boys". Face it - these are the guys who really DO live in their mama's basements. Growing up and going off to jail is actually a form of upward mobility for them.
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Or, maybe the group think starts when young people get hungry, so they go bargain with "the man" for a job, so they can eat. Helluva thing, huh? They use your greed and hunger to coerce you to do their work, and eventually you start thinking like them. It's the hippies who really "think outside the box".
Not only a troll, but an especially LAME troll.
I loaded the page in firefox, just to be told that FF required 400MB of memory in order to render the page. I checked. FF was using 179 MB of memory, with three windows open, and a total of 11 tabs.
Out of curiosity, I loaded the page in IE8. 176 MB of memory, with only that one page open. Google Chrome? 53 MB. Safari isn't installed on this virtual machine, I'll probably test it later.
I'm not a mathematical genius, but the troll's claims don't seem to add up.
Actually, it would include a LOT of different crimes:
Genocide (wiping out a whole village of people)
Violating human rights
Conspiracy to commit murder
Conspiracy to violate human rights
Conspiracy tampering with witnesses
Conspiracy, obstruction of justice
Almost certainly multiple counts of unlawful imprisonment and/or kidnapping
Illegal use of weapons (probably firearms, possibly explosives)
not to mention, the rather minor censorship (in comparison) thing
The prosecutors may or may not ever get around to any question of censorship, but hey, remember, that was my whole reason for wiping out the village. To prevent my sensitive information being spread around.
If one prissy librarian with a puritan attitude takes books that she disapproves of, and burns them to prevent people reading them, THAT is censorship. The government doesn't have to approve of her actions for her actions to qualify as censorship.
"Censorship is when a government stops a person or organization from disseminating information"
The Mafia, among other organizations, would thank you for this definition. Executing an entire family, or even an entire village, to prevent the dissemination of sensitive information wouldn't be considered "censorship", unless the government assisted in the executions. Thank you, sir.
What's that noise? WHOOSH? Yeah, that's it. WHOOSH!!!
"Most likely, if we find a new crystal on another planet it will be none of those things."
Until we discover it, we can't even speculate what it is, or what it isn't. Let's get off our asses and discover it!
"Maybe, but it would be nice if more people understood that science is more complex than
1) Research.
2) ???
3) PROFIT!"
I, for one, haven't made that mistake. However, I have profit in mind. People should have the opportunity to profit from discoveries. Whatever might be discovered on Mars will profit no one, if it can't be picked up and used, unless we just assume that those discoveries can be duplicated on earth.
"If all this speculation leads to the invention of ways to detect and destroy or change the course of such comets,"
How do we improve the chances of detecting those comets? By putting people and sensors closer to the potential threat, of course. The most sensitive sensor on earth can't hold a candle to people and sensors scattered around the solar system.
"I think limiting science"
Nowhere do I propose that we limit scientific research. Instead, I state that research stations are alright - but they are not enough. The government can invest billions in research, and refuse to risk a single human life in the pursuit of that research. But, far more people are likely to invest voluntarily into something like SpaceX. They seem to be interested in MAKING USE OF space, and whatever might be discovered up there.
I've said this elsewhere, I'll repeat it here. If Mary Kay cosmetics announced to the world that moon dust was a major component of a new age defying lotion, and offered convincing propaganda to the women of the world, then within a couple of years, we would see ships going to the moon to collect dust. And, it doesn't even matter whether the stuff works or not, all that is required is that women THINK it works!
Me? I just want to drive the damned truck up there to get the dust. I want to sit looking out over the moonscape while I eat lunch. If I make enough trips, catering to women's vanity, maybe I can afford to buy a crater to settle down in. This is life outside the laboratory.
"its not our wars that create our enemies its our support for repressive regimes."
Question is - how do we convince the money grubbers who actually run Washington of that? I'm quite tired of seeing blood spilled to "protect American interests", which invariably translates to "influential wealty American's financial interests".
"it seems to me if you put a smart and independent thinking person through the military's recruit-crusher, you're either going to get a non-independent-thinking person, a smart and independent thinking person who has been faking non-independent thinking and hates the military for it, or a corpse."
And, may I ask how many years you served, and in what branch?
In my 8 years of service, I was never made aware that I should think some sort of "group think". In fact, those people who were advanced most rapidly generally though "outside the box". My own meritorious advancement to E-5 was a result of having both balls and brains. (lest anyone asks, I never had brawn - just plenty of balls) That is to say, I saw the situation differently than my leaders, and I took some initiative to accomplish the mission.
The day the military begins hammering independent thought out of men's heads, the military will most definitely fail.
To be perfectly honest, your statement is pretty insulting to veterans. It suggests that men and women who complete one or more tours of duty successfully are either mindless puppets, or dishonest people. If that is what you really mean, then maybe you should look around you. Wherever you live, there are good men and women around you who are veterans and are very successful. Maybe your boss? Maybe HIS boss?
It's just fine for the government to aim at scientific achievements. Nothing wrong with that. But, the PURPOSE of exploration is to find homes, resources, and work for PEOPLE.
They want to stick permanent research stations (manned or otherwise) at the lagrange points? Cool. Put them up there, put beacons on them, so that real people who are pursuing real life don't run them over. Real life is much much more than just looking at stuff, and figuring out how it works. Real life means USING stuff. If NASA discovers a new crystal on Mars, something that man has never seen before, neither Joe Sixpack nor Aviator Alex is going to give a damn that science has learned something new. Both want to know how they can USE IT! Does it make a super cutting tool? Does it make the greatest lens ever imagined? Maybe it's a superconductor at room temperature, and it can be used in electronics? The best insulating material man has ever seen? If so, then someone is going to pay for transportation to go GET some of the stuff, so he can sell it to people!!
There is nothing wrong with science, but science isn't a goal, in and of itself. Science is a means to an end - the end being, to improve human life.
Sitting around on the earth, and speculating about if and when a moon sized comet might strike the earth certainly doesn't improve human life, or the chances of humanity's survival.
So, you compare family to business arrangements. I see. "I now pronounce you Microsuck and Microsuckee! You may suck the Micro!"
Spectators say, "It's a monopoly made in hell."
Odd, my wife has never eaten another wife in an acquisition, nor have I ever taken another husband to court to have him liquidated. Have we been missing something? Maybe we can spice our lives up a little bit, huh?
"consume 5 times less power, and be 10 times cheaper"
This stupidity is worse than any double negative. Do people who write this kind of stuff ever graduate from the 6th grade? Well - wait - to be honest, I've know several old timers who never went to school at all, and they never used language like this. Should I conclude that this is the language of total morons, then?
Phhhht.
Someone give the guy a clue. If he insists on posting on slashdot, he should post in some language other than English. That nonsense MIGHT actually make sense if written in Sanskrit, or Yiddish.
Actually - no, it isn't true. Granted, your statement is partly true, today, and will remain partly true for all of our lifetimes. Given about 50 to 100 years of EXPERIENCE in space, scientist won't be required for survival, in space, on the moon, or on Mars. Today and tomorrow, your survival will depend far more on technicians and "common sense" that it does on scientists. (note that today's "common sense" is likely to be very fatal in space - said sense will be learned by the first generation in space)
There is a problem with this logic. If I generate excess energy this month, and if my state requires the electric company to pay me for my energy, then I get a small check and/or credit toward next month's bill. Looking at that credit, I see that the electric company is paying me about half of what they charge me for electricity. Which means, of course, that they are making a profit by redistributing my electricity.
I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR MY SHARE OF MAINTENANCE!!
Yes, maintenance is an important consideration, but they are being paid for that maintenance by every person who pays the utility for electricity. It's all included in the rates approved by the state in which they operate.
This whole thing is just more dirty politics and greed.
Ahhh, but, it seems that you have assumed AC to be human. ;-)
Exclusivity agreements are evil. Simple as that. They were wrong when Microsoft was insisting on them, they are wrong for telecoms, they are wrong period, anytime, anywhere. The moment that any corporation can insist on an exclusive agreement, they are ALREADY a monopoly, and the government should deal with them as such.
The Revelation of Saint Slasher Dotter, chapter 12, verse 19, says, "Verily, in the deepest dungeons, there is a place reserved for grammar nazis. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, as the grus gnaw upon the bones of the grammar nazis for all time. Lo, there shall be no death, no resets or restarts for the grammar nazis, nor will there be relief for them in the lakes of fire. Beware, grammar nazi, or you shall feed the gru!"
I wish the parent hadn't been modded down. He makes a point that should be addressed.
I've lost data on every file system that I've ever used, including NTFS, and the highly touted ReiserFS. Nothing guarantees the security of your data. The nearest you can come to data security, is to backup, backup, and backup again. Those people and organizations that keep regular backups seldom lose data. However, even those people can lose data in the event of a physical disaster (fire, flood, theft, being hit by a humongous meteorite) which is why off-site backups are important.
That said - IMHO, a journaling file system is an important first step to data security. NTFS and Ext3 are about equal, in my experience. Turning off caching features is an important second step. A power outage before data is written to disk, and/or while data is being written results in corruption in all current file systems. The important thing is, if data is mission critical, you want it written IMMEDIATELY, not floating around in RAM.
And, finally, you NEED redundant backups. Anyone who fails to make backups WILL LOSE data, eventually.
Someone has little understanding of the GPL. Apple need not open source it's kernel in order to use a kernel module. Things might be simpler if MacOS were GPL'd, but the use of GPL'd code within the OS is quite possible. As someone else already points out, Microsoft makes use of GPL'd code.
Let us all get this straight. AC would reject any and all medical knowledge that resulted from experimentation by the Nazi's during the second world war. Going a step further, he might wish to have any medical knowledge gained by the allies during WW2 purged from human knowledge. After all, such knowledge is "tainted", because it was motivated by violence.
If it can't be patented and commercialized it can't be much good.
Don't anyone inform AC that there is no patent on his arse, or his reproductive organs. He'll be removing them as "junk".
One word. "Greyhat"
Flamebait? ROFLMAO - when you reach my age, and you've watched a generation of kids grow from diapers to jail cells, then you come back and label my opinions as flamebait. Oh wait - I apologize, Mr. Moderator. I see who you are now. You're still living in YOUR mother's basement!!
Crap, I think I just broke my arm - I'm laughing so hard I fell off my chair!
"Let the female, transgender" - - - - -
You're right. I never thought about that. Gays should be represented in games too. Next title should be, "Peter Puffer Destroys Las Vegas".
Oh, man, I can picture it now
ROFLMAO
Your choices only run from 1 to 4. You don't offer the most accurate choice.
5. Yeah, there's a problem of sorts, but it isn't our problem. Let the underrepresented minorities sort it out for themselves.
Now, scroll down and look for my more verbose answer.
Big fuckin' deal. Who writes games? Mostly adult white males. Does anyone suppose that an adult white male is going to sit and ponder how a juvenile latin female might thing and act in some given situation? Nope. He don't GIVE A SHIT. Now, if that juvenile latin female wants to go into the game writer's world, and contribute something, then he'll give a shit. If she understands the game engine, and how the graphics work, if she can actually contribute to the (mostly mindless) plot of the story, then he WILL give a shit.
You want this adult white female to attempt to create a juvenile latin female character? Great - he's feeling both magnanimous and sensitive, he's going to sit right down and create this character, and give her a leading part in the story. The character is going to be one of two things (maybe both at the same time, even). An over endowed little slut who wants nothing more than to bang the hero, OR an over endowed AND over muscled bull dyke who is as mindless and shallow as any female character has ever been.
Which is the better choice? The bit of fluff, or the hunk of meat?
Give everyone a break. If you want your group represented in games, or stories, or movies, or whatever the fuck, GET OFF YOUR DEAD ASS AND REPRESENT!!! Stop sniveling, stop whining. (Lest anyone think that I'm picking on the young Sotomayors of the world, no, this goes for blacks, male and female, Asians, Arabs, and even fucking ESKIMOS! Oh, cool, a great game idea, "Mighty Quinn wreaks havoc in New York!"
While we wait for everyone to go do something useful, I'm intriqued by the idea of an adult male who appears to be white writing a novel from the perspective of a young Mexican girl. I just KNOW that everyone on slashdot will want to read it when I'm finished!! Quick, how do you say "pretty ponies" en Espanol?
Think about it. These are BLACKHAT awards. Who are blackhats? People who want to break into other people's computers. Who idolizes a blackhat? Script kiddies. Those blackhats who are not felons, are not criminals waiting to be convicted, or criminals waiting to be caught, are just juvenile asses trying to emulate the "bad boys". Face it - these are the guys who really DO live in their mama's basements. Growing up and going off to jail is actually a form of upward mobility for them.