WTF? Dammit, I'm not a grammar nazi, but, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TO SAY?? Put it into a mathematical equation and post it - don't try to translate it into ghetto talk or advertising talk. Unless, of course, you are one of those advertising morons - in which case you should put a disclaimer in your sig.
Vivian, slashdotters are prejudiced, I think. I've posted the same info you did. The forum on which I posted that information, modded me as a troll.
Maybe I shouldn't have posted at a liberal political action site where phat broads were rallying? Seems two phat broads were excluded from a crowded night club, and they want to sue the owners, AND have a law passed. Something like "Phat's Phine with me!!".
Wow. Helluva rundown. Almost over my head, too. Now I have to do some reading, to see how well I can really understand all that. Oh, don't worry, I got the "in a nutshell" idea of it. Firewall is a layered defense, and Microsoft took away the layers. Which just begs the question: do 3rd party firewalls provide the layers of defense, or do they just rely on Window's API's? And, if 3rd party firewalls provide a good layered defense, which ones do so?
I'm glad I have a good gateway machine, lol. I just didn't realize how important it might be!!
Ahem. Business lesson appreciated - but you ultimately make my point for me. The money passes THROUGH the bank. Maybe some businesses make a lot of use of CD's for medium storage of money - but that isn't what most businesses are in business for. I did mention that every business keeps assets in a readily liquidateble form, and your CD's are exactly that.
As for Google being more secure than Fort Knox - I'll believe it in a couple hundred years, when Google has never lost any data from any account.
I may not be able to hack the key for any particular scrap of data in the next million years, with the technology that is available. But, I CAN find the individual(s) who have the keys, and extract the keys from him using a 5 dollar nutcracker.
However, I didn't mention anything about hacking Google in my first post. I did mention availability and control. If the itartubes start rusting out, or if terrorists cut all the optic fibers, or the electric grid goes down - then suddenly, business is unable to access the data on Google. Just because we haven't experience the combination of fire/flood/earthquake/meteor strike that could disrupt Google's communitcations, doesn't mean it isn't going to happen next year.
Uhhhhm. Business secrets are MUCH more valuable than money. Many business execs will shovel money at you, to avoid giving away a trade secret.
That said - business doesn't store it's money in a bank. There are more lucrative investments than any bank. Even my relatively small company only puts money in the bank once a week to cover payroll and expenditures. They keep a seperate account elsewhere with a nice tidy sum of money, and yet more assets are kept readily available for liquidation. But, the real money is kept working in the business.
Exactly. Loss of control is a much greater factor than any number of employee's familiarity and/or comfort. If/when Enterprise migrates from the MS offerings, they will almost certainly adopt something that they can serve from their own machines.
Hell, as a private individual, I'm reluctant to store to much information on the web, and I certainly wouldn't store it in China, or Russia, or - ZIMBABWE!
Based on my experience and observation of courts, judges won't rubber stamp prison sentences. Instead, they will impose ridiculous fines, with the threat of prison for failure to pay the fines. The economy sucks, counties and parishes are looking for money, so fines will be imposed for spitting in public - or private, for that matter.
It's been all about money for as long as I can remember, and things are getting tighter, and tighter.
I appreciate the fact that you are an elitest from academia, and that your intelligence is far superior to all the rest of us slashdotters.
I also appreciate the fact that numbers don't lie, but statisticians do.
Pleased to meet you, Mr. Statistician. Now, I challenge you to explain to the rest of us exactly how 55% is NOT more than half.
I give my rugrat two rolls of pennies. 100 pennies. I tell him that we are going to share the pennies. I count out 50 pennies for him, he counts out 50 pennies for me. Then I cheat, and take one of his pennies. Because I'm older and wiser, when he accuses me of cheating, he starts counting pennies. When he finds 51 pennies in my pile, he says I DID cheat. Show us the flaw in the kid's reasoning skills.
I'm willing to learn, as are many other slashdotters. Are you capable of teaching us?
Fek nerml. Being "normal" means being average, run of the mill, a follower, a nonthinker, a - what's the word I want here? A frigging COLLECTIVIST!!!
Who wants to be a mere normal? Certainly not I.
Oh yeah. Normal today means blindly accepting the political movement regarding global warming. The article points out that researchers often find results that are palatable to the research funding agency. Hmmmm. That really begs the question: is the "consensus" of scientists unreasonably influenced by the funding or people with an agenda, or not?
Thanks everyone, but I'll remain skeptical of man made global warming. Any group that is more than half democrats is biased to start with.
Can I volunteer for that job? Don't mind the color vision thing - I'm usually pretty sure that red is red, and green is green. I mean, it's not THAT important is it?
I've had an account for a long time. Two or three years, I guess. I was invited by a friend, so I registered. It's 99% waste of time, and 1% a convenient way to keep track of friends. Pretty much the same as Myspace, without the glaringly ugly personal pages.
As for your lawn, I'll get off it when I finish urinating on it, you crotchety old bastid. You should show a little more respect to a man who is half bald, half gray, and all gnarly!
Sweet Jesus. Do you read, or do you just spam to get your view across? I'll try one more time. The technology that OUR government puts into use TODAY will be in use by OTHER governments TOMORROW. In fact, American corporations have been directly linked to the technology used in Iran to suppress the opposition's ability to "get the word out". Can you not put two and two together, or follow a sequence of events?
As for the police in this country, the lazy bastards already have to much power. If they got off their asses and INVESTIGATED crimes, like their predecessors did 50 years ago, they wouldn't need a freaking airplane. Instead, you find the police forces out drumming up (extorting) revenues on the highway. I say, get the cops out of their cars, and onto the streets. They don't need an airplane, or a camera. They need to get into the 'hood, and get to know people.
Rather narrow sighted, aren't we? As well as short sighted. Perhaps you missed the recent articles about technology being used in Iran to publicize the demonstrations. And, you missed the articles about government pulling the plug on most of the population's means of communication with the outside world.
Let's add two and two here. Today, some wannabe Gestapo chief in California puts a camera into the sky, tomorrow, there will be another over Tienenman square - some more hovering over the DMZ in Korea - the list goes on and on.
But, never mind. In each case, the authorities will have determined who the criminals are. Nothing to worry about. It's a good thing, after all.
You should read more. There's a book out, "Beautiful Security". There is a chapter devoted to airport wireless. Joe Sixpack doesn't look at the SSL certificate, doesn't even notice the little lock emblem. Even a lot of "sophisticated" people continue doing their banking, rationalizing the absence of the secure symbol. The author of the section has collected TONS of personal details by spoofing a WIFI service at an airport.
"Why would you want a security atrocity like DirectX? Aren't there enough security holes already? If anything, we should think about banning DirectX from the Web? We should also ban ActiveX."
Pretty much my thoughts as soon as I saw the title. "Allows apps" summarizes the problem - Windows already grants to many permissions, to easily, to to many applications. Win7 (and Vista, too, I guess) improves on the old lack of security, but here we are trying to introduce more vulnerabilities.
"only has to deter people from committing crimes out of fear"
Is it only me, or does this fit the definition of terrorism? Oh - someone will point out the word "crimes". But, wait. Who, exactly, determines what a crime is? In some countries, a disparaging remark against the ruling family is a crime.
Yes, we really need this technology. We desperately need it, so that yet another 20% of the population can be criminalized.
Bill says, "Hey, Joe, are you going to vote to re elect President Butthead?"
Joe answers, "No, I think I'll vote for Beavis this time."
Officer Phlegmwad says, "Officer Braindead, go pick up Citizen Joe for processing into our "reeducation" camp, immediately!"
In the US, at least, treaty is the province of the executive branch of government. Treaties are supposed to be ratified by Congress. If/when the courts rule that an executive treaty is unconstitutional, then it goes back to the executive and legislative branches to be reexamined.
No matter what the law and/or any treaty might say, we all know that copyright law has been raped by the "rights holders". It all needs to be reexamined, if not completely rebuilt. The actions of RIAA-like organizations in recent years have been simply insane.
We need judges in every country in the world to make rulings like this, and goad the lawmakers to address the problems with copyright as well as patent law.
It's a world wide problem, from the richest to the poorest nations, from the most technically savvy, to the furthest outback reaches. No matter how "sophisticated" a person is, culturally, or otherwise, they tend to expect a computer to "just work". The same person who installs two deadbolts and two chains on their apartment door, and iron grates on all their windows, never bothers to understand how vulnerable his computer might be.
You are comparing lemons to peppers. In the first instance, you are exploring valid patent questions. Software, however, comes under copyright law. We can equate algorithms to an artist's paint. Paint is widely available to almost anyone living in any civilized country. Anyone is free to use paint in almost any combination and pattern they wish to use paint. Some people actually come up with "masterpieces" using that paint. Algorithms, or methods of doing math, are widely available to to anyone with a reasonable education. Anyone is free to use them, in any combination and patter in which they wish to use them. If an individual creates a "masterpiece" with algorithms, then that masterpiece should be protected by similar laws as any great painting.
Copyright law != patent law, and the two shouldn't overlap, despite the fact that they have similar goals.
Don't get me wrong here - I despise Java, primarily because it's a resource hog on all platforms. Only masochists could ever have really liked Java - especially on older and/or low end machines. It blows. But, mono? Microsoft is blowing it's own horn here. Java is already on 100% of *nix desktops, plus or minus a percent. Mono has made it onto 10%? Wow!! Mono growth outstrips Java!!!
Give me a frigging break.
There must be some natural turf somewhere, but we won't find it here.
I'll be happy to admit right up front that I'm biased. I read about people in L.A. New York and Chicago enjoying unbelievable speeds, both wired and unwired. College kids have it all, the fastest speeds in the world again, both wired and unwired.
Jethro Beaudien and I suffer with less than a single MB of bandwidth - often shared between us. I thought the whole idea was to expand internet service. So, I'm going to approve any project that brings real broadband to rural America, and disapprove of ultra-modern projects in the cities. Suburbia gets consideration, as not all suburbs have what is available in the cities and the "greater metropolitan" areas. But, RURAL should have first consideration.
Does anyone actually KNOW how much of America has only dial-up available? Improve things out there with government money. The corporations are already smothering the cities and other profitable areas.
Politicians in general manage to turn it into a partisan issue. The minority party is always trying to "clean things up", but the majority party blocks the effort. But, you're right, it isn't truly partisan. Both sides know the steps to this silly dance, and they keep time remarkably well. It's the putzes who continue to vote for career politicians who don't "get it". They actually believe the partisan noise contained in the soundbites from Fox, NBC, and all the rest. Total morons.
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"require 100x less of bandwidth"
WTF? Dammit, I'm not a grammar nazi, but, WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN TO SAY?? Put it into a mathematical equation and post it - don't try to translate it into ghetto talk or advertising talk. Unless, of course, you are one of those advertising morons - in which case you should put a disclaimer in your sig.
Robots text? Strange, I would have thought they use radio.
Vivian, slashdotters are prejudiced, I think. I've posted the same info you did. The forum on which I posted that information, modded me as a troll.
Maybe I shouldn't have posted at a liberal political action site where phat broads were rallying? Seems two phat broads were excluded from a crowded night club, and they want to sue the owners, AND have a law passed. Something like "Phat's Phine with me!!".
There are strange people in this world....
Wow. Helluva rundown. Almost over my head, too. Now I have to do some reading, to see how well I can really understand all that. Oh, don't worry, I got the "in a nutshell" idea of it. Firewall is a layered defense, and Microsoft took away the layers. Which just begs the question: do 3rd party firewalls provide the layers of defense, or do they just rely on Window's API's? And, if 3rd party firewalls provide a good layered defense, which ones do so?
I'm glad I have a good gateway machine, lol. I just didn't realize how important it might be!!
And, I understood the HOSTS thing just fine.
Thanks for the info, and I'm off to find more. :-)
Ahem. Business lesson appreciated - but you ultimately make my point for me. The money passes THROUGH the bank. Maybe some businesses make a lot of use of CD's for medium storage of money - but that isn't what most businesses are in business for. I did mention that every business keeps assets in a readily liquidateble form, and your CD's are exactly that.
As for Google being more secure than Fort Knox - I'll believe it in a couple hundred years, when Google has never lost any data from any account.
I may not be able to hack the key for any particular scrap of data in the next million years, with the technology that is available. But, I CAN find the individual(s) who have the keys, and extract the keys from him using a 5 dollar nutcracker.
However, I didn't mention anything about hacking Google in my first post. I did mention availability and control. If the itartubes start rusting out, or if terrorists cut all the optic fibers, or the electric grid goes down - then suddenly, business is unable to access the data on Google. Just because we haven't experience the combination of fire/flood/earthquake/meteor strike that could disrupt Google's communitcations, doesn't mean it isn't going to happen next year.
Uhhhhm. Business secrets are MUCH more valuable than money. Many business execs will shovel money at you, to avoid giving away a trade secret.
That said - business doesn't store it's money in a bank. There are more lucrative investments than any bank. Even my relatively small company only puts money in the bank once a week to cover payroll and expenditures. They keep a seperate account elsewhere with a nice tidy sum of money, and yet more assets are kept readily available for liquidation. But, the real money is kept working in the business.
Exactly. Loss of control is a much greater factor than any number of employee's familiarity and/or comfort. If/when Enterprise migrates from the MS offerings, they will almost certainly adopt something that they can serve from their own machines.
Hell, as a private individual, I'm reluctant to store to much information on the web, and I certainly wouldn't store it in China, or Russia, or - ZIMBABWE!
Based on my experience and observation of courts, judges won't rubber stamp prison sentences. Instead, they will impose ridiculous fines, with the threat of prison for failure to pay the fines. The economy sucks, counties and parishes are looking for money, so fines will be imposed for spitting in public - or private, for that matter.
It's been all about money for as long as I can remember, and things are getting tighter, and tighter.
I appreciate the fact that you are an elitest from academia, and that your intelligence is far superior to all the rest of us slashdotters.
I also appreciate the fact that numbers don't lie, but statisticians do.
Pleased to meet you, Mr. Statistician. Now, I challenge you to explain to the rest of us exactly how 55% is NOT more than half.
I give my rugrat two rolls of pennies. 100 pennies. I tell him that we are going to share the pennies. I count out 50 pennies for him, he counts out 50 pennies for me. Then I cheat, and take one of his pennies. Because I'm older and wiser, when he accuses me of cheating, he starts counting pennies. When he finds 51 pennies in my pile, he says I DID cheat. Show us the flaw in the kid's reasoning skills.
I'm willing to learn, as are many other slashdotters. Are you capable of teaching us?
Fek nerml. Being "normal" means being average, run of the mill, a follower, a nonthinker, a - what's the word I want here? A frigging COLLECTIVIST!!!
Who wants to be a mere normal? Certainly not I.
Oh yeah. Normal today means blindly accepting the political movement regarding global warming. The article points out that researchers often find results that are palatable to the research funding agency. Hmmmm. That really begs the question: is the "consensus" of scientists unreasonably influenced by the funding or people with an agenda, or not?
Thanks everyone, but I'll remain skeptical of man made global warming. Any group that is more than half democrats is biased to start with.
Can I volunteer for that job? Don't mind the color vision thing - I'm usually pretty sure that red is red, and green is green. I mean, it's not THAT important is it?
I've had an account for a long time. Two or three years, I guess. I was invited by a friend, so I registered. It's 99% waste of time, and 1% a convenient way to keep track of friends. Pretty much the same as Myspace, without the glaringly ugly personal pages.
As for your lawn, I'll get off it when I finish urinating on it, you crotchety old bastid. You should show a little more respect to a man who is half bald, half gray, and all gnarly!
Sweet Jesus. Do you read, or do you just spam to get your view across? I'll try one more time. The technology that OUR government puts into use TODAY will be in use by OTHER governments TOMORROW. In fact, American corporations have been directly linked to the technology used in Iran to suppress the opposition's ability to "get the word out". Can you not put two and two together, or follow a sequence of events?
As for the police in this country, the lazy bastards already have to much power. If they got off their asses and INVESTIGATED crimes, like their predecessors did 50 years ago, they wouldn't need a freaking airplane. Instead, you find the police forces out drumming up (extorting) revenues on the highway. I say, get the cops out of their cars, and onto the streets. They don't need an airplane, or a camera. They need to get into the 'hood, and get to know people.
Rather narrow sighted, aren't we? As well as short sighted. Perhaps you missed the recent articles about technology being used in Iran to publicize the demonstrations. And, you missed the articles about government pulling the plug on most of the population's means of communication with the outside world.
Let's add two and two here. Today, some wannabe Gestapo chief in California puts a camera into the sky, tomorrow, there will be another over Tienenman square - some more hovering over the DMZ in Korea - the list goes on and on.
But, never mind. In each case, the authorities will have determined who the criminals are. Nothing to worry about. It's a good thing, after all.
You should read more. There's a book out, "Beautiful Security". There is a chapter devoted to airport wireless. Joe Sixpack doesn't look at the SSL certificate, doesn't even notice the little lock emblem. Even a lot of "sophisticated" people continue doing their banking, rationalizing the absence of the secure symbol. The author of the section has collected TONS of personal details by spoofing a WIFI service at an airport.
Yeah. I read the FA. I see ActiveX. Wonderful. We all know that ActiveX is the most secure protocol on the face of the earth. /sarcasm
I gotta agree with you man. Microsoft is getting their shit all in one sock. Now, if we can just lose the damned smelly sock we'll have it made!!
"Why would you want a security atrocity like DirectX? Aren't there enough security holes already? If anything, we should think about banning DirectX from the Web? We should also ban ActiveX."
Pretty much my thoughts as soon as I saw the title. "Allows apps" summarizes the problem - Windows already grants to many permissions, to easily, to to many applications. Win7 (and Vista, too, I guess) improves on the old lack of security, but here we are trying to introduce more vulnerabilities.
I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a stick.
"only has to deter people from committing crimes out of fear"
Is it only me, or does this fit the definition of terrorism? Oh - someone will point out the word "crimes". But, wait. Who, exactly, determines what a crime is? In some countries, a disparaging remark against the ruling family is a crime.
Yes, we really need this technology. We desperately need it, so that yet another 20% of the population can be criminalized.
Bill says, "Hey, Joe, are you going to vote to re elect President Butthead?"
Joe answers, "No, I think I'll vote for Beavis this time."
Officer Phlegmwad says, "Officer Braindead, go pick up Citizen Joe for processing into our "reeducation" camp, immediately!"
In the US, at least, treaty is the province of the executive branch of government. Treaties are supposed to be ratified by Congress. If/when the courts rule that an executive treaty is unconstitutional, then it goes back to the executive and legislative branches to be reexamined.
No matter what the law and/or any treaty might say, we all know that copyright law has been raped by the "rights holders". It all needs to be reexamined, if not completely rebuilt. The actions of RIAA-like organizations in recent years have been simply insane.
We need judges in every country in the world to make rulings like this, and goad the lawmakers to address the problems with copyright as well as patent law.
Why do you say "S. Korean"?
It's a world wide problem, from the richest to the poorest nations, from the most technically savvy, to the furthest outback reaches. No matter how "sophisticated" a person is, culturally, or otherwise, they tend to expect a computer to "just work". The same person who installs two deadbolts and two chains on their apartment door, and iron grates on all their windows, never bothers to understand how vulnerable his computer might be.
You are comparing lemons to peppers. In the first instance, you are exploring valid patent questions. Software, however, comes under copyright law. We can equate algorithms to an artist's paint. Paint is widely available to almost anyone living in any civilized country. Anyone is free to use paint in almost any combination and pattern they wish to use paint. Some people actually come up with "masterpieces" using that paint. Algorithms, or methods of doing math, are widely available to to anyone with a reasonable education. Anyone is free to use them, in any combination and patter in which they wish to use them. If an individual creates a "masterpiece" with algorithms, then that masterpiece should be protected by similar laws as any great painting.
Copyright law != patent law, and the two shouldn't overlap, despite the fact that they have similar goals.
Don't get me wrong here - I despise Java, primarily because it's a resource hog on all platforms. Only masochists could ever have really liked Java - especially on older and/or low end machines. It blows. But, mono? Microsoft is blowing it's own horn here. Java is already on 100% of *nix desktops, plus or minus a percent. Mono has made it onto 10%? Wow!! Mono growth outstrips Java!!!
Give me a frigging break.
There must be some natural turf somewhere, but we won't find it here.
I'll be happy to admit right up front that I'm biased. I read about people in L.A. New York and Chicago enjoying unbelievable speeds, both wired and unwired. College kids have it all, the fastest speeds in the world again, both wired and unwired.
Jethro Beaudien and I suffer with less than a single MB of bandwidth - often shared between us. I thought the whole idea was to expand internet service. So, I'm going to approve any project that brings real broadband to rural America, and disapprove of ultra-modern projects in the cities. Suburbia gets consideration, as not all suburbs have what is available in the cities and the "greater metropolitan" areas. But, RURAL should have first consideration.
Does anyone actually KNOW how much of America has only dial-up available? Improve things out there with government money. The corporations are already smothering the cities and other profitable areas.
"This is not a partisan issue,"
Politicians in general manage to turn it into a partisan issue. The minority party is always trying to "clean things up", but the majority party blocks the effort. But, you're right, it isn't truly partisan. Both sides know the steps to this silly dance, and they keep time remarkably well. It's the putzes who continue to vote for career politicians who don't "get it". They actually believe the partisan noise contained in the soundbites from Fox, NBC, and all the rest. Total morons.