We know that there was an altercation. Characterizing that altercation as "Martin jumped Zimmerman" means that you accept Zimmerman's tale without question. I do NOT find Zimmerman to be credible. He has a history as bad or worse than Martin's history.
" we do know that Martin at some point jumped Zimmerman."
Correction. We do NOT know that. We only know for certain that Zimmerman CLAIMS that Martin jumped him. There is no witness to Martin jumping Zimmerman, nor is there any witness to Zimmerman jumping Martin.
You may choose to believe Zimmerman, but don't hold Zimmerman's story out as a proven fact.
And, you are way out in the wrong field, whether that field be left or right. Self defense works even before the first punch is thrown. If you tell me that you're going to kick my ass, and I believe that you ARE going to kick my ass, you need only step toward me, or raise a hand, or make some gesture that indicates that you are about to strike me. At that moment in time, I can blow you into eternity, with impunity. THAT is self defense.
Heh. I agree with every point you've made - but I still think that Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter. That asshole had no business chasing after Martin in the first place. Fat little man staring bugeyed at me as I walk home from the store - he's tagged as a potential mugger or something. Fat boy gets out of his car to follow me into the backyards between my house and the neighbor? He's more than tagged. He becomes a SUSPECT. The bastard is out to get me.
Trayvon died because Trayvon wasn't suspicious enough to think that Zimmerman might be carrying. That was Trayvon Martin's only mistake.
I found those three on the first page of my search results, and quit looking. Different search terms and a more determined search will find hits as old as about 1999, maybe even older. Hard to remember, but I think I first became aware of compiler cheats by Intel around 2000 or 2001. Prior to that, I naively thought that a compiler was a compiler.
Either you don't believe Dr. Lott, or you're illiterate. He answered that already.
" If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other."
I know it's not cool to RTFA, or even to RTFS, but you could RTFP.
City? What city? I live 40 miles from the nearest city, which is Texarkana. The towns in between here and Texarkana have no jurisdiction where I live. The county and the State police have jurisdiction, but they aren't always at my end of the county. They prefer the south end of the county, where they find a lot of speeders on their way to Texarkana.
ROFLMAO - I read your post as sarcasm, but obviously the mods took your request seriously. "Unapproved opinion and inconvenient facts". That's doublegood newspeak!
Google gets into the news for working to deny government access to user data. Frequently, even. Google may have some evil elements, but Google doesn't belong to government.
The real problem is, that the NSA has taps into the backbones, and they have active telecom cooperation.
You're trying to imply that when government snaps it's fingers, Google either rolls over and plays dead, or sits up and begs. That accusation is much more accurate when applied to the telecoms.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. In my area, we have waited for thirty minutes and more for emergency personnel to arrive where they are needed. I sat with three badly burned boys for half an hour, before a first responder arrived, followed soon after by a policeman.
Had someone not already called for police and ambulance services, I would have loaded those boys into my car, and driven to the hospital. Ignoring posted speed limit signs, I could have had those boys at the regional medical center in about 25 minutes, where they would have received trauma unit care immediately upon arrival.
So - you DO have school shootings. All the propaganda that tells us that Europe is gun-free and safe is bullshit at the end of the day then. Rationalize it how you will, spin like crazy, you do hae school shootings.
I will note that the death tolls are lower than the US - is that due to ineptitude on the part of the shooters, or better police response, or some other element at play?
Newsmax: The media typically spins these mass shootings as an American phenomenon. They suggest we ought to be more like Europe, with strong gun control, because then we would not have these problems. Is that true?
Dr. Lott: No. Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other. A couple of years ago you had a couple of big shootings in Finland. About two-and-a-half years ago you had a big shooting in the U.K., 12 people were killed.
You had Norway last year [where 77 died]. Two years ago, you had the shooting in Austria at a Sikh Temple. There have been several multiple-victim public shootings in France over the last couple of years. Over the last decade, you’ve had a couple of big school shootings in Germany. Germany in terms of modern incidents has two of the four worst public-school shootings, and they have very strict gun-control laws. The one common feature of all of those shootings in Europe is that they all take place in gun-free zones, in places where guns are supposed to be banned.
Newsmax: So can you give us a correlation between crime rates in jurisdictions that try to ban concealed guns and the crime rate in those that do not?
If you look over past data, before everyone that was adopting [concealed carry laws], you find that for each additional state that adopted a right-to-carry law . . . you’d see about a 1.5 percent drop in murder rates, and about 2 percent drop in rape and robbery . . . Just because states are right-to-carry doesn’t mean they’ve issued the same number of fees. You have big differences in states’ training requirements.
Newsmax: Would it be a good idea to have teachers who have concealed carry permits in the schools, to better protect kids?
I’m all for that. I’ve been a teacher most of my life. I’ve been an academic. I have kids in college still, and kids below that. It’s not something that I take lightly. But it’s hard to see what the argument would be against it.
People may not realize this, but we allowed permit-concealed handguns in schools prior to the ironically named Safe School Zone Act. And no one that I know has been able to point to a single bad thing that occurred, not one.
We changed the law, and we started having these public-school shootings. So I don’t think they got the intended result that they were hoping for with that type of ban. Right now, [some jurisdictions] allow you to carry concealed-permit guns in the schools. There are not a lot of them. But there are no problems that have occurred with any of those states, either.
You have to give MIT permission to do it for you. I just visited the page, and I gave a thought or two to giving Immersion permission to do it's thing. I haven't done so. I may, at some later time.
With the NSA, they don't ask any permissions. They assume permission from the government. Sneaking around behind everyone's back, building their data bases, then keeping the data secret.
Why would that be? Did Clinton stick his member into an alien ambassador's orifice? Or, did the other Clinton stick the ambassador into her orifice? I'm confused here, can you provide a link to whatever Clinton did to offend the aliens?
It was the corporation that manufactured and supplied the components in question that is liable. Apple designed a product, asked someone to produce it, and that someone went to some supplier for the components. The component manufacturer is clearly liable, if anyone is liable. If that Apple device assembly plant in China actually manufactured that component themselves, then they are liable. Otherwise, they pass the liability on to their supplier.
The entire iDevice doesn't impose on the patent in question - it's just a component that infringes.
Those companies that actually manufacture the COMPONENTS covered by the patents are liable, if they are infringing.
Customers aren't liable. It's insane that today's legal "minds" see all purchasing customers as potential defendants in these lawsuits. Slippery slope, anyone? The police could be searching your home and business, looking for any potentially infringing devices that you might own, and imposing fees and penalties on each device.
The university needs to go after the people who are manufacturing the component, and no one else. IF, that is, they actually have a case.
In what schools are they teaching this science, math, and common sense?
Perhaps you are completely unaware of the percentages of high school "graduates" who are illiterate. If these graduates can't even read or write, how in hell cay you expect them to know science, math, OR common sense?
What "life skills" are being taught in schools today?
"Children, the big test next month will have THESE QUESTIONS on it! Let's start memorizing the answers now! Remember, the questions will be mixed, so none of you will see ALL of these questions, but all of you will see SOME of these questions. Sally, can you name three alternative lifestyles that might be more appealing that heterosexual married couples?"
" it is difficult to fully understand what the risks are, who exactly the "bad guys" includes, "
To complicate things yet further, the identity of the good guys and bad guys aren't cast in stone for all eternity. Life happens, and sometimes good guys go bad, and sometimes bad guys go good. The fact that you were trustworthy a year ago doesn't necessarily mean that you are trustworthy today.
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We know that there was an altercation. Characterizing that altercation as "Martin jumped Zimmerman" means that you accept Zimmerman's tale without question. I do NOT find Zimmerman to be credible. He has a history as bad or worse than Martin's history.
http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-was-known-jekyll-and-hyde-deatils
"What would have them spinning at 5000 rpm in their graves is Guantanamo Bay, not this trial and public reaction."
No mod points this week, or you'd get another insightful.
The founding fathers would have slapped George Bush or Barrack Obama down, saying "Get out of the way, bitch, while we fix your fuckups!"
" we do know that Martin at some point jumped Zimmerman."
Correction. We do NOT know that. We only know for certain that Zimmerman CLAIMS that Martin jumped him. There is no witness to Martin jumping Zimmerman, nor is there any witness to Zimmerman jumping Martin.
You may choose to believe Zimmerman, but don't hold Zimmerman's story out as a proven fact.
And, you are way out in the wrong field, whether that field be left or right. Self defense works even before the first punch is thrown. If you tell me that you're going to kick my ass, and I believe that you ARE going to kick my ass, you need only step toward me, or raise a hand, or make some gesture that indicates that you are about to strike me. At that moment in time, I can blow you into eternity, with impunity. THAT is self defense.
Heh. I agree with every point you've made - but I still think that Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter. That asshole had no business chasing after Martin in the first place. Fat little man staring bugeyed at me as I walk home from the store - he's tagged as a potential mugger or something. Fat boy gets out of his car to follow me into the backyards between my house and the neighbor? He's more than tagged. He becomes a SUSPECT. The bastard is out to get me.
Trayvon died because Trayvon wasn't suspicious enough to think that Zimmerman might be carrying. That was Trayvon Martin's only mistake.
I've been all AMD almost forever, for this reason among others.
http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?470102-Intel-s-compiler-cripples-code-on-AMD-and-VIA-chips 2010
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/16/intel_ftc/ 2009
http://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance 2005
I found those three on the first page of my search results, and quit looking. Different search terms and a more determined search will find hits as old as about 1999, maybe even older. Hard to remember, but I think I first became aware of compiler cheats by Intel around 2000 or 2001. Prior to that, I naively thought that a compiler was a compiler.
Either you don't believe Dr. Lott, or you're illiterate. He answered that already.
" If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other."
I know it's not cool to RTFA, or even to RTFS, but you could RTFP.
City? What city? I live 40 miles from the nearest city, which is Texarkana. The towns in between here and Texarkana have no jurisdiction where I live. The county and the State police have jurisdiction, but they aren't always at my end of the county. They prefer the south end of the county, where they find a lot of speeders on their way to Texarkana.
ROFLMAO - I read your post as sarcasm, but obviously the mods took your request seriously. "Unapproved opinion and inconvenient facts". That's doublegood newspeak!
Google gets into the news for working to deny government access to user data. Frequently, even. Google may have some evil elements, but Google doesn't belong to government.
The real problem is, that the NSA has taps into the backbones, and they have active telecom cooperation.
You're trying to imply that when government snaps it's fingers, Google either rolls over and plays dead, or sits up and begs. That accusation is much more accurate when applied to the telecoms.
Also - I point your attention to AC's response.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. In my area, we have waited for thirty minutes and more for emergency personnel to arrive where they are needed. I sat with three badly burned boys for half an hour, before a first responder arrived, followed soon after by a policeman.
Had someone not already called for police and ambulance services, I would have loaded those boys into my car, and driven to the hospital. Ignoring posted speed limit signs, I could have had those boys at the regional medical center in about 25 minutes, where they would have received trauma unit care immediately upon arrival.
So - you DO have school shootings. All the propaganda that tells us that Europe is gun-free and safe is bullshit at the end of the day then. Rationalize it how you will, spin like crazy, you do hae school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Europe
I will note that the death tolls are lower than the US - is that due to ineptitude on the part of the shooters, or better police response, or some other element at play?
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Lott-guns-Connecticut-shooting/2012/12/15/id/467903
Newsmax: The media typically spins these mass shootings as an American phenomenon. They suggest we ought to be more like Europe, with strong gun control, because then we would not have these problems. Is that true?
Dr. Lott: No. Europe has a lot of multiple victim shootings. If you look at a per capita rate, the rate of multiple-victim public shootings in Europe and the United States over the last 10 years have been fairly similar to each other. A couple of years ago you had a couple of big shootings in Finland. About two-and-a-half years ago you had a big shooting in the U.K., 12 people were killed.
You had Norway last year [where 77 died]. Two years ago, you had the shooting in Austria at a Sikh Temple. There have been several multiple-victim public shootings in France over the last couple of years. Over the last decade, you’ve had a couple of big school shootings in Germany. Germany in terms of modern incidents has two of the four worst public-school shootings, and they have very strict gun-control laws. The one common feature of all of those shootings in Europe is that they all take place in gun-free zones, in places where guns are supposed to be banned.
Newsmax: So can you give us a correlation between crime rates in jurisdictions that try to ban concealed guns and the crime rate in those that do not?
If you look over past data, before everyone that was adopting [concealed carry laws], you find that for each additional state that adopted a right-to-carry law . . . you’d see about a 1.5 percent drop in murder rates, and about 2 percent drop in rape and robbery . . . Just because states are right-to-carry doesn’t mean they’ve issued the same number of fees. You have big differences in states’ training requirements.
Newsmax: Would it be a good idea to have teachers who have concealed carry permits in the schools, to better protect kids?
I’m all for that. I’ve been a teacher most of my life. I’ve been an academic. I have kids in college still, and kids below that. It’s not something that I take lightly. But it’s hard to see what the argument would be against it.
People may not realize this, but we allowed permit-concealed handguns in schools prior to the ironically named Safe School Zone Act. And no one that I know has been able to point to a single bad thing that occurred, not one.
We changed the law, and we started having these public-school shootings. So I don’t think they got the intended result that they were hoping for with that type of ban. Right now, [some jurisdictions] allow you to carry concealed-permit guns in the schools. There are not a lot of them. But there are no problems that have occurred with any of those states, either.
He's got a future in politics. When you need a fact, you just make one up!
You have to give MIT permission to do it for you. I just visited the page, and I gave a thought or two to giving Immersion permission to do it's thing. I haven't done so. I may, at some later time.
With the NSA, they don't ask any permissions. They assume permission from the government. Sneaking around behind everyone's back, building their data bases, then keeping the data secret.
There is no comparison between MIT and NSA.
Damn - we forgot to make any porno films for the kids to find! Another missed opportunity to damage their poor little innocent psyches!
Come on mods - this is one of those rare first posts that is on topic, voicing a valid opinion. It ought to get a +1 funny anyway.
Why would that be? Did Clinton stick his member into an alien ambassador's orifice? Or, did the other Clinton stick the ambassador into her orifice? I'm confused here, can you provide a link to whatever Clinton did to offend the aliens?
It was the corporation that manufactured and supplied the components in question that is liable. Apple designed a product, asked someone to produce it, and that someone went to some supplier for the components. The component manufacturer is clearly liable, if anyone is liable. If that Apple device assembly plant in China actually manufactured that component themselves, then they are liable. Otherwise, they pass the liability on to their supplier.
The entire iDevice doesn't impose on the patent in question - it's just a component that infringes.
BINGO!!!
Those companies that actually manufacture the COMPONENTS covered by the patents are liable, if they are infringing.
Customers aren't liable. It's insane that today's legal "minds" see all purchasing customers as potential defendants in these lawsuits. Slippery slope, anyone? The police could be searching your home and business, looking for any potentially infringing devices that you might own, and imposing fees and penalties on each device.
The university needs to go after the people who are manufacturing the component, and no one else. IF, that is, they actually have a case.
The Chinese did that. The same crowd (a few generations removed, of course) that is so busy taking over the world's finances today.
In what schools are they teaching this science, math, and common sense?
Perhaps you are completely unaware of the percentages of high school "graduates" who are illiterate. If these graduates can't even read or write, how in hell cay you expect them to know science, math, OR common sense?
'Cause we ain't as smart a specialized single cell?
Hawkeye's pointed barbs never missed their target, you'll admit!
What "life skills" are being taught in schools today?
"Children, the big test next month will have THESE QUESTIONS on it! Let's start memorizing the answers now! Remember, the questions will be mixed, so none of you will see ALL of these questions, but all of you will see SOME of these questions. Sally, can you name three alternative lifestyles that might be more appealing that heterosexual married couples?"
" it is difficult to fully understand what the risks are, who exactly the "bad guys" includes, "
To complicate things yet further, the identity of the good guys and bad guys aren't cast in stone for all eternity. Life happens, and sometimes good guys go bad, and sometimes bad guys go good. The fact that you were trustworthy a year ago doesn't necessarily mean that you are trustworthy today.